#tikiwiki 2011-01-05,Wed

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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31765 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-since_last_visit_new.php: [FIX]sefurl for tracker tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r31766 10/trim/scripts/profile.php: [FIX] terminology: applying a profile (and not installing a profile)	[00:35]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r31767 10/trunk/ (24 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [ENH] Articles: Add watch event for comments article_commented (global) tikiwiki: [ENH] Articles: Add general watch event article_* (global) tikiwiki: [ENH] Watch articles : add an eye somewhere (Closes: 1755) tikiwiki: [ENH] add group watch to articles (Closes: 3100) tikiwiki: make watch types, titles and URLs generally optional tikiwiki: [ENH] Admin Notifications: improve watch addition	[07:19]
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Ma1	Hello How can I turn on php errors etc via the mysql database?	[13:05]
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xavi	Ma1: check the right settings that you have to change in the tiki_preferences table, through looking at http://profiles.tiki.org/Debug	[13:27]
Ma1	xavi: I found it now. MySQL says tiki_pages is required an upgrade :S	[13:28]
ricks99	hi all :-)	[13:28]
xavi	?	[13:28]
Ma1	xavi: when I do check table tiki_pages; I get tikiwiki32.tiki_pages \| check \| error \| Table upgrade required. Please do "REPAIR TABLE `tiki_pages`" or dump/reload to fix it!	[13:29]
xavi	hi ricks99 Ma1: repair the table it might be damanged becuase some mysql issues	[13:29]
ricks99	hi xavi	[13:30]
xavi	AND upgrade to latest 3.x	[13:30]
Ma1	xavi: We are running 6.x xavi: this is just an old installation we are copying articles and pages from	[13:30]
xavi	Ma1: ah, ok. however, your db name is tikiwiki32 ok	[13:31]
Ma1	xavi: repair cannot delete the content of the table?	[13:31]
xavi	"cannot"; no idea, 100%. I know for sure that 100% of times when I repaired a mysql table, I lost nothing.	[13:32]
Ma1	Alright, I see How do I dump/reload ?	[13:32]
Yonixxx	hi Rick, Xavi, Ma	[13:32]
xavi	using phpmyadmin, you can cehck the table name/s, and select "repair" at the drop down at the bottom hi Yonixxx	[13:33]
Yonixxx	ola! :)	[13:33]
xavi	:-)	[13:34]
Ma1	xavi: yeah, but how do I dump it?	[13:34]
ricks99	shalom yonixxx	[13:34]
xavi	Ma1: if you can't do mysqldump in the console, or export from phpmyadmin, then you have to repair your tables first	[13:34]
Yonixxx	Hello Rick ! (like we said in Brooklyn ! :D)	[13:35]
ricks99	he he he. here it is Shalom Ya'll ;-)	[13:35]
Yonixxx	:)	[13:36]
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xavi	c u all	[14:04]
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SDuensin	Greetings.	[14:26]
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luciash	polom ricks99: to your yesterday's question at me - i like to learn the fact it is so simple to create own profile repository and to learn how to do it on that page of your book	[14:43]
ricks99	ah. glad u found it useful hehehe... it cost me almost as much to send a copy to you as it did to actually print & produce :)	[14:46]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31768 10/trunk/tiki-download_item_attachment.php: [ENH]tracker: can also download a tracker attachment with itemId and fieldId in the url	[15:56]
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luciash	ricks99: g, oups :)	[16:45]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31770 10/trunk/get_strings.php: [FIX] exclude codemirror like Zend	[16:45]
	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31771 10/trunk/get_strings.php: Typo	[16:52]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31772 10/trunk/lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php: notice	[17:17]
ricks99	Tiki has modules for blog_last_comment and wiki_last_comments and tracker_last_comments... but nothing for articles? hm... looks lie the wiki_ast comments accepts type=articles. cool	[17:21]
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chealer	polom hi ricks99. thank you for the book :-)	[17:30]
ricks99	thx for ur input.	[17:32]
chealer	ricks99: indeed. I guess that's why it's called "Last comments" now.	[17:33]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31773 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.sefurl.php: [FIX]sefurl: missing image sefurl (used in CATEGORY)	[17:33]
ricks99	y, but its listed as "mod-func-wiki_last_comments" thats what confused me	[17:33]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31774 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.sefurl.php: [bp/r31773][FIX]sefurl: missing image sefurl (used in CATEGORY)	[17:35]
ricks99	is there no way to categorize blog posts ? ricks99 thought that was added as part of the blog revamp?	[17:38]
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sylvieg	xavi.. was mailing you ... commit 31774 for you with marc we fixed 31764 for the search	[17:42]
xavi	hi sylvieg. ok thanks it was beyond my skills	[17:46]
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ricks99	argh! tiki consistency - you're klling me.... why do blogs have 'blog excerpt' but articles have 'article heading'?	[17:52]
chealer	ricks99: yes, I didn't change the system names.	[17:53]
ricks99	ricks99 thinks they should be the same thing, really	[17:53]
chealer	ricks99: I can categorize a blog post in trunk	[17:56]
ricks99	oh. i'm usin 6.1	[17:57]
chealer	I agree, the system name and the name should be as identical as possible	[17:57]
ricks99	not just the name, but the funtionality. i dont really understand the purpose of the except -- it isnt part of the bost	[17:58]
chealer	ricks99: sorry, I replying about the modules	[17:58]
ricks99	o :-)	[17:59]
chealer	is that what you were talking about?	[17:59]
ricks99	y. but now i'm ranting about "article header" vs "blog excerpt" :)	[17:59]
chealer	ricks99: yes, I'm sorry, please rant on.	[18:00]
ricks99	an *exceprt" is a portion of text that is pulled/removed from the body. but Tiki treats the "blog excerpt" as a separate item would be super cool if tiki just took the first 100-or-so characters of my blog post and made it the into/heading/excertp text 'cause now, i have to copy/paste the first paragraph of my blog body to the excerpt field :( </rant off>	[18:00]
lphuberdeau	I just don't like excerpts for blogs in the first place forces me to go outside of my RSS reader to keep reading that's just plain annoying	[18:01]
ricks99	well, i want/need/expect to be able to lis the first paragraph or so of my last 10 posts on my home page ricks99 thinking of using the articles as my blog-engine	[18:02]
lphuberdeau	same thing, really	[18:03]
ricks99	y, but with articles, the rss feed is complete because tiki sends the article header + body in the rss	[18:04]
lphuberdeau	I'm just thinking "list wiki pages in category blog by creation date in an RSS feed and you have a blog", but that might just be me	[18:07]
ricks99	y. but i want on my home page to show the last 10 posts/pages. but not the full page ,jus tthe first paragraph with a READ MORE link i think i'll use tiki articles instead of blog	[18:09]
lphuberdeau	the shorten part is really a client-side issue, as in not the feed's job	[18:09]
ricks99	i'm an end-user. i dont care about plumbing. i just want what i want :) articles does everything i want except the next/previous post. and i think i can work around that except... argh. why cant i customize the tiki toolbar for article headings? looks like it uses the comment format?	[18:10]
lphuberdeau	that would be really surprising well, tiki being what it is, maybe not so much	[18:16]
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ricks99	maybe im doing somehting wrong, but it sure looks that way to me	[18:19]
xavi	ricks99: (hi all) would you be able to use the moonths_links module to mimic the "blog archive" functionality it provides, but also for articles? I haven't tried, but it might s/moonths/months	[18:22]
ricks99	wasnt planning on using it. instead using regular tiki-list_articlees.php but sending a custom date range variable ?findDateFrom=0000000&findDateTo=1111111 this way i can create buttons/links that list only articles within a specific time frame	[18:24]
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xavi	ok sylvieg? I've got another issue with tracker items in proposals/6.x not producing the right sef-url when used in a trackerlist plugin since you have that sef-url things fresh... maybe you can point me in the right direction, so that I can fix it example: http://entitatsdelamarina.org/Enquesta where it says "enllaç" (= "link")	[18:42]
ricks99	http://wiki.eclipse.org/EclipseLink/UserGuide/MOXy	[18:46]
xavi	url is like http://entitatsdelamarina.org/item&trackerId=2 ricks99: ? what's that?	[18:46]
ricks99	wong window	[18:56]
xavi	ok	[19:02]
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	sylvieg: forget my previous error report about tracker item & SEF-url's I was missing to apply db upgrade on the multitiki and your fix is good (I forgot it was needing also the db upgrade) thanks!	[19:19]
	ricks99: how can I add a line to separate each row in this form? http://entitatsdelamarina.org/Enquesta I mean, how to provide a greyed line to indicate the limit of each row	[19:29]
ricks99	ricks99 looking	[19:30]
xavi	I don't see any css property where I can add some upper and lower border color... thks you know: input field seems to be aligned verticaly but text on the lest sometimes uses two lines, and it's not super intuitive for the end users to know what's the input box for each question s/on the lest/on the left	[19:30]
ricks99	create a css style rule for: table.wikiplugin_tracker tr {border-bottom:1px solid #494949;}	[19:32]
xavi	thanks!	[19:32]
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ricks99	or, if you want it ONLY for that specific form, use form#editItemForm1 table.wikiplugin_tracker tr {.....}	[19:32]
xavi	you're in my list of the top 3 css tiki-masters!	[19:33]
ricks99	lol	[19:33]
xavi	:-) now I realize it was not that far from my current skill-set (slowly progressing)...	[19:33]
ricks99	i cheat. i use the ie dev toolbar	[19:34]
xavi	wikiplugin_tracker class was deinfed higher up from where I was looking with firebug so do I :-) well, firebug (in ff or chrome)	[19:34]
ricks99	same difference. you should have somthing like "copy xpath" when you click an element. that will show you the FULL class info from the HTML definition all the way down Q to xavi: do u think it is "odd" to have a language drop list (as on your page) with a single selection? just curious	[19:35]
xavi	he he, yes, it is :-) I have to add the automatic translation feature to tht site	[19:36]
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xavi	mmm, however, I wonder if I can allow users to select their preferred interface language, without showing the drop down when only one language, like in this case I mean, if I un-set multilanguage feature, I loose all features, and I want to keep the feature to allow users to select their prefferred language things about language in bilingual comunities/countries are a bit tricky with people (like in Quebec, afaik) same here in Catalonia with Catalan and Spanish btw, I don't see the copy xpath info in firebug anyway, I'm newbie, with fairly simple usage (so far at least, of firebug features)	[19:38]
ricks99	rightclick an element in the left pane	[19:42]
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torsten	polom	[19:45]
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xavi	ricks99: ah, ok, thanks, now I see it hi fabricius	[19:47]
fabricius	hi xavi	[19:47]
xavi	ricks99: I added that to custom css (+ delelted tiki caches) and I don't get any difference in the layout of the table I added this: table.wikiplugin_tracker tr {border-bottom:1px solid #494949;} as you suggested shouldn't there be anything between wikiplugin_tracker and tr? xavi needs to look how it's done in other parts of base css files in tiki	[19:50]
ricks99	u sure you have table.wikiplugin? i only see .wikiplugin_tracker tr look @ line 51 of enquesta.css it should be table.wikiplugin_tracker tr	[19:52]
xavi	well, I did had that, didn't work, and tried without "table" I'll try again with table done, no change, afaik and cleared tiki caches, etc	[19:54]
ricks99	duh. use td NOT tr sigh ricks99 needs a coffee refill	[19:56]
xavi	oups, I should have spotted that also xavi needs dinner	[19:56]
ricks99	ricks99 would be dangerous if he acutally knew what he was doing	[19:57]
xavi	:-) thanks ricks99	[19:58]
luciash	hi, border on tr should work also - but maybe not on table with border-collapse: collapse	[19:58]
ricks99	y. thats what i spotted.	[19:58]
luciash	er, separate	[19:58]
ricks99	ur welcome xavi (should go to luciash first next time :)	[19:58]
xavi	hi luciash (another of the css masters)	[19:58]
luciash	sorry, i was afk, and you ricks99 were the good help here available	[19:59]
xavi	another related question: how can I have the input field centered vertically ?	[19:59]
luciash	which one ? :D	[19:59]
ricks99	@xavi, just my $0.02, but instead of a line, i would simply increase the padding (whitespace) 1em or so ricks99 likes whitespace	[20:00]
xavi	the ones in the tracker	[20:00]
luciash	in td all should work using vertical-align: middle	[20:00]
xavi	ricks99: yes, yes, I know. I'll tweack it (I donpt want to leave a black line there) thnks luciash, I'll try	[20:00]
ricks99	in the same css definition, add vertical-align:middle	[20:00]
xavi	ok, thanks to both and I'll leave it as it is right now (I can't invest more time now on this). dashed and light blueish + vertical align	[20:03]
luciash	luciash would put some whitespace between the logo and "La Marina La xarxa del teu barri" too	[20:04]
ricks99	woo hoo, just got notificaiton that tiki essentials is now on amazon :-)	[20:04]
luciash	w00t :)	[20:04]
xavi	congrats ricks99	[20:07]
ricks99	tx to all tiki-ers	[20:07]
chealer	:-)	[20:07]
ricks99	ricks99 waiting for the royalty checks to start rolling in... since i didnt win the megamillions lottery last nite	[20:08]
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xavi	ricks99 & luciash: I changed the border line& color for padding-bottom: 10px; and I'm considering to commit to layout.css in trunk and proposals/6.x what do you think?	[20:15]
ricks99	should use relative instead of absolute sizes. and aren't colors etc theme-specific?	[20:15]
xavi	colors? I removed them relative: 1.2em? (I never understand how they work, and why sometimes they don't work for me) example: I tried to change the sitetitle & subtitle size from this site for my students, and I couldn't: htp://club.iesbarcelona.org oups, I mean: http://club.iesbarcelona.org	[20:17]
ricks99	#sitetitle {font-size:4em}	[20:20]
xavi	so ricks99: is this good for commiting then? table.wikiplugin_tracker td {vertical-align:middle; padding-bottom:1.2em;}	[20:22]
ricks99	i personally dont like the vertical alignment just me	[20:22]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r31775 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_include_performance.tpl: [MOD] adding more prefs to admin panel for things that can slow Tiki down.	[20:23]
xavi	well, without lines and things too close, when the text of the label uses two lines, and the input box is on top (as of now in trunk), it's not clear sometimes where the inpuc refers to, whether that line, or the one above	[20:24]
ricks99	i agree. thats why i hate tables for forms	[20:25]
xavi	ok. I'll commit then (better than it is right now) and I'm running out of time for today	[20:29]
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luciash	well, tables cells have vertical align middle by default, so over-writing them is not ideal, but only solution for you... having it middle aligned is not good for table cells of forms containing large textareas... then the label usually is not visible at first sight for left table cell label + right table cell form data type layout... that is why i hate tables in forms too ;)	[20:38]
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luciash	luciash likez ricks99 becoming usability expert :) err, should i say guru ?	[20:39]
ricks99	"hacker"	[20:40]
xavi	walk the dog time (bbl)	[20:40]
luciash	luciash just returned from one ;) siberia weather here :-p brrrr	[20:44]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r31776 10/trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [ENH]Visually separating a little bit more rows (and their input boxes) in a form inside tracker plugin. Thanks ricks99 and luciash for tips.	[21:07]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r31777 10/branches/proposals/6.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [ENH][bp/r31776]Visually separating a little bit more rows (and their input boxes) in a form inside tracker plugin. Thanks ricks99 and luciash for tips.	[21:08]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31778 10/trunk/get_strings.php: [FIX] Don't put translation string used by punctuation string in unused part of language.php	[21:28]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31779 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_forum.tpl: [FIX]forum: shorter url	[21:38]
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	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31780 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/docs.css: [FIX]css: never define background without font color (see darkroom)	[22:06]
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fabricius	polom when I login to the communty site tiki.org, the CSS crashes down and editing is not possible ... does anybody know the reason?	[22:20]
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marclaporte	no	[22:36]
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chealer	fabricius: what happens when you try editing?	[22:52]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31781 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_users.tpl: [MOD] Set class odd and even on tr instead of td	[23:01]
fabricius	sry chealer, didn't see your reply	[23:11]
sylvieg	can not post forum topic in trunk textarea is too small witht darkroom	[23:12]
fabricius	chealer: when I try editing, the site collapses at all - white page just with some few info in two lines ... edit: GLUG -------------------------------------------- preview edit save nothing more - else is white page	[23:13]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31782 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]forum: simplify some urls (no sort_mode and forumId) + fix prev next topic	[23:15]
fabricius	marclaporte: r you still there?	[23:16]
marclaporte	y	[23:16]
fabricius	just activated timestamps now - you answere earlier than chealer - didn see it aswell chatting with angela I am running linux now ... smoothly, fine nice peace of software	[23:16]
luciash	fabricius: it is usually caused by insufficient resources (memory_limit) fabricius: not fully loaded page "without css" fabricius: congrats (for linux)	[23:17]
fabricius	luciash: thx ... would need a sysadmin with serveraccess, to increase the mem_limit, isn it? Or deleting tiki-cashes?	[23:18]
chealer	sylvieg: I have the same thing (in fivealive), in comments. waiting for jonnyb :-) sylvieg: meanwhile I enlarge the textarea	[23:19]
fabricius	luciash: ubuntu 10.10 on my and on my girlfriends laptop	[23:19]
luciash	:)	[23:20]
fabricius	luciash: I like those wobbling windows	[23:20]
luciash	g	[23:20]
fabricius	and the vast amount of software, for ex childrens software for my 4 year old son ... he wants a real laptop asap he sais now ;-)	[23:21]
chealer	fabricius: I have no such problem editing UserPageChealer9	[23:22]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31783 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_users.tpl: ~INDENT~ no change	[23:23]
luciash	luciash just happy to successfully fix his dslr camera hot pixel without need to send it to warranty service ! internet rulez, yay ! :)	[23:23]
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CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31784 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_users.tpl: [ENH] Code factorisation	[23:25]
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fabricius	chealer: I checked it with a second browser now and then with the other laptop - same problem	[23:27]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31785 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_users.tpl: [ENH] introduction of class on td - see http://dev.tiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices&highlight=formcolor#Tables	[23:28]
luciash	chealer: i guess you should try on the same page as fabricius (the editing)	[23:29]
chealer	fabricius: the page is GLUG or what?	[23:32]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31786 10/trunk/ (styles/layout/design.css templates/tiki-list_blogs.tpl): [ENH] introduction of class on td - see http://dev.tiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices&highlight=formcolor#Tables	[23:33]
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fabricius	chealer: yes, and my Userpage aswell	[23:37]
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chealer	fabricius: can you try as another user (anonymous?)?	[23:51]
CIA-37	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31787 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl tiki-admingroups.php): [FIX]groups: fix maxRecords+ show find box in any case	[23:51]

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