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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r32352 10/trunk/tiki-webmail.php: [FIX] webmail: allow more of some common tags in html mails by adding them to strip_tags exception	[01:05]
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TheOnlyMerlin	Hello	[02:41]
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TheOnlyMerlin	Hello. I was in here yesterday about a problem with intertiki, and I still have the same problem. Maybe this can help: in the tiki_preferences table in the tiki database, there is an entry for "known_hosts," I suspect this is an intertiki setting, is this so? And if so, is "a:0:{}" a potentially sensible value? I think I may have just answered my own question: other settings are marked with "feature_intertiki_" before them, so it doesn;t seem to be an intertiki setting Hmm.. although "interlist" is pretty decisively a intertiki setting because of it's values... Inconsistent naming convention?	[03:03]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32354 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] filegals: mainly typo fixes, including: tikiwiki: - fix duplicates checking (sql conditions were wrong) tikiwiki: - fix wrong/unused DB field (show_userlink) tikiwiki: - fix one call to savedir function (wrong function name) tikiwiki: - fix file upload (typo in tmp dest variable name) tikiwiki: - keep existing gallery config for explorer display when editing gallery (typo in array key) tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32355 10/trunk/tiki-list_file_gallery.php: [FIX] filegals: wrong array key tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32356 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php: [bp/r32355][FIX] filegals: wrong array key tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32357 10/trunk/tiki-list_file_gallery.php: tikiwiki: [MOD] user files gallery: use gallery 'type' field with value 'user' and gallery tikiwiki: user/name to handle user file galleries instead of a user pref + don't tikiwiki: auto-create user gal if the features 'user files' and 'use fgal for user files' tikiwiki: are not both enabled tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32358 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: tikiwiki: [MOD] user files gallery: use gallery 'type' field with value 'user' and gallery tikiwiki: user/name to handle user file galleries instead of a user pref + don't tikiwiki: auto-create user gal if the features 'user files' and 'use fgal for user files' tikiwiki: are not both enabled tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32359 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl: tikiwiki: [MOD] file galleries: show 'List Galleries' button only in File Galleries + Use tikiwiki: 'My Files' as the page title if the gallery is the current user own user file tikiwiki: gallery and use 'Files of $user' when the gallery is the user file gallery of tikiwiki: another user + remove 'Gallery:' prefix (as in trackers - the user know were he tikiwiki: is).	[09:46]
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jonnyb	.greetings { tiki: polom; }	[10:35]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32360 10/trunk/ (lib/smarty_tiki/block.title.php templates/header.tpl): [FIX] browser title: fix HEAD tag title for filegals (especially for user files galleries) and set headtitle by default in the title smarty plugin for any pages	[10:38]
chibaguy	.greetings, jonnyb	[10:46]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy	[10:46]
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chibaguy	I hope the new-features BBB session happens. That should probably happen for every big Tiki version.	[10:47]
jonnyb	was hoping you'd be about - would you have a chance to review this big (destructive) commit removing all the old site* etc prefs if i do it now/soon? yes, surprised no one replied to that one	[10:47]
chibaguy	Ah, probably busy. Today I'm kind of stuck on something else, but after today I'll have time to review it.	[10:47]
jonnyb	i see there a tikifest on the 12th but it's mostly French (Quebecer anyway :P ) hmm, ok - i need to commit this as it's sort of in the way here, so i'll just review it all again and hope for the best (i'm sure people will let me know if i get it wrong!)	[10:48]
chibaguy	Well, maybe it doesn't need to be associated with a tikifest, or at least a geographic one.	[10:49]
jonnyb	indeed - a virtual 'fest	[10:49]
chibaguy	yeah, sure, just commit; it'll get sorted out one way or another.	[10:49]
jonnyb	i'll reply to my own mail... (nice interlaced conversation :) ) jonnyb thinks his current local customised theme might be a contender for Tiki 7 default - https://skitch.com/jonnybradley/rcthy/homepage-our-organization	[10:49]
chibaguy	well, aesthetic things are so subjective; everybody has a different idea of what is best, etc.	[10:55]
	You can commit it, but it's apt to be herringbone and broad stripes before long. the joys of collaborative art ;-)	[11:00]
jonnyb	oh, another little css thing chibaguy - i tried making the bg images for jqui.css semi-transparent so you could use the bg colours to customise them a bit, but decided i was better off spending time coding - shall i send you where i got to? (if you think it might be worth pursuing)	[11:03]
chibaguy	yeah, ok. I saw something like that somewhere, maybe in wordpress. Maybe the idea was to have customizable color gradients.	[11:05]
jonnyb	i thought it was how jq-ui theme roller worked but it seems the create the customised bitmaps server-side (more powerful) ok, here goes... chibaguy: can you do svn patches?	[11:06]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32361 10/trunk/ (19 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [REM] modules revamp: Remove prefs (and tiki-bot_bar.tpl) replaced by modules in the three installer scripts. tikiwiki: feature_sitelogo, feature_site_login, feature_top_bar, feature_topbar_id_menu, feature_sitemenu, feature_sitesearch, tikiwiki: feature_site_report, feature_site_send_link, feature_tell_a_friend, tikiwiki: feature_bot_bar_power_by_tw, feature_topbar_version, feature_bot_bar_icons, tikiwiki: feature_bot_bar_rss, feature_babelfish, feature_babelfish_logo, tikiwiki: feature_bot_bar_debug, feature_bot_bar	[11:09]
chibaguy	hmm, I'm not sure. I haven't tried before.	[11:10]
jonnyb	you use tortoise svn or something like?	[11:11]
chibaguy	tortoise	[11:12]
jonnyb	hmm, you said you were busy didn't you - i'll mail it for later	[11:13]
chibaguy	ok. make or apply patch looks pretty easy with tortoise. but i won't get a chance to try until tomorrow or so.	[11:14]
jonnyb	ya, it's easy and very handy i often get half way through something and need to do something else, so save a patch and come back to eat later it's in the mail	[11:15]
chibaguy	alright	[11:16]
jonnyb	i was also (sorry to keep interrupting) to get some feedback as to what you'd like to see next in themegen - the options (i see) are: css context (where a colour etc is used) more font changing (family, weight etc) replace jquery-ui theme images	[11:17]
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coaboa	hello tikiverse	[11:22]
jonnyb	polom coaboa	[11:22]
chibaguy	well, I've only played with it a little so far, but I think knowing the css context is pretty important. hi coaboa	[11:22]
coaboa	hi chibaguy & jonny	[11:22]
chibaguy	font-changing is probably a higher priority than changing bg images.	[11:23]
jonnyb	chibaguy: for you i guess, but if you don't know tiki's css at all i wonder how helpful it is... (i agree i think we need it though) ok, i think more font stuff is next (not sure how though)	[11:23]
chibaguy	right, I guess the live preview would be most useful for people who have no idea about the css selector names.	[11:24]
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jonnyb	hmm, live font preview might be tricky (and messy!)	[11:24]
chibaguy	yep, I was referring to colors,actually.	[11:24]
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jonnyb	oh, one more thing - i deleted skeleton/tiki.tpl as it was out of date and i thought skeleton was supposed to show you tiki with it's skin off	[11:25]
chibaguy	as opposed to labelling the palette with selector names.	[11:25]
jonnyb	colour live preview works ok	[11:25]
chibaguy	yeah, I saw that in one short trial. uh, skeleton was added because of a request from Marc and Patrick, who did the strasa theme. Patrick wanted a simpler tiki.tpl to use as a base for customizing.	[11:25]
jonnyb	oh right... i thought it was just to show you what layout.css was	[11:28]
chibaguy	But actually, with a lot of the tiki.tpl includes, etc. moving to modules, hopefully the file will be easier to understand.	[11:28]
jonnyb	i guess a new one could be remade when the main tiki.tpl has settled down :)	[11:28]
chibaguy	ah, well, skeleton.css was just an empty file that imported the base css files, but skeleton/tiki.tpl was a simplified version of tiki.tpl -sans all the little filters, etc.	[11:29]
jonnyb	ah, sorry then - should i restore it? (surely it will be broken now?)	[11:35]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32362 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] fgals: Move a tiny piece of JS "fgal templates" into the tpl where it's used - can't find out how to test though (where's the "add new template button"?)	[11:35]
	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32363 10/trunk/: [SVN] ignore netbeans project dir tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r32364 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [ENH]Formated the cache folder to the itemid with more digits so that the first 1x10^6 are ordered, with this syntax: _itemid_000001	[11:40]
chibaguy	mm, well, yes, it's definitely broken now. I'm hoping the default tiki.tpl will be simple enough for non-coders to use as a base for custom themes.	[11:43]
jonnyb	that's what i'm hoping for... all that shadow div stuff makes it look more complicated - is it still required?	[11:43]
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chibaguy	I never used it. luciash and nyloth both have said they do. I don't know how they feel about it now.	[11:46]
jonnyb	ok, i never worked it out either polom ricks99	[11:46]
ricks99	wolod y'all	[11:47]
jonnyb	:D	[11:47]
chibaguy	well, I come at shadow divs from a different direction. Since I mostly have done themes for distribution, I wanted to do any designs that work out of the box, w/o admin things needing to be configured. Of course, that's evolving now that we depend on modules more, etc. hi ricks99	[11:48]
jonnyb	yes, sorry about that... but it does seem to be the thing clients always want different	[11:49]
chibaguy	yeah, and I like moving things off tiki.tpl, etc., and simplifying tpls for themes.	[11:50]
jonnyb	maybe we need some way of allowing profiles to be applied more easily, so they can be bundled in themes	[11:50]
chibaguy	It's almost magical how theme-specific tpls are hardly needed for tiki7. I thought dark shine would be really hard to adapt to default tiki.tpl, but it was pretty smooth, and actually it's the best-ever implementation of that theme. Twist still needs to be adapted, as your email recently mentioned (still has bottom bar tpl or something).	[11:50]
ricks99	@jonnyb: tx for email. most issues known, but welcome to better alternatives	[11:52]
jonnyb	oh yes, i couldn't work out what to do about that one, sorry np ricks99	[11:52]
chibaguy	About profiles, I keep hoping for an undo button... ;-)	[11:53]
jonnyb	yes, would be nice	[11:54]
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luciash	polom	[12:14]
jonnyb	polom luciash	[12:15]
luciash	hi jonnyb	[12:27]
	i think the "layer shadows" could go in Tiki7 (because it's not LTS) as long as there will be some adequate alternative introduced using HTML5 + CSS3 techniques to provide the same functionality (allowing extra graphical borders and shadows generated around the divs easily) - otherwise -1 for removing it this flexible feature (not to mention, you can have smarty syntax and conditions in them to generate anything you can imagine there if you know smarty, w	[12:35]
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luciash	simplifycation is nice and i am all for it but if you simplify too much it in contrary makes things complicated again	[12:36]
jonnyb	ok luciash - i've never found anyone else who understood how to use it, so it's up to you i think :)	[12:37]
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chibaguy	re	[12:37]
luciash	jonnyb: it is actually really easy to use :) jonnyb: main purpose was to allow more "onion layers" in there for your divs, so you can CSS them with different backgrounds for example (<div id="myborder1"><div id="myborder2"> and </div></div> in the end of shadow code) or you can just put any of your custom code in them, which will apear before the div or after... jonnyb: it is for theme designers really, who know what they do	[12:37]
jonnyb	ok, it just looks like a lot of extra "stuff" in tiki.tpl	[12:42]
luciash	jonnyb: or advanced tiki users jonnyb: yes, but without it in tiki.tpl, it would be hardly possible to achieve	[12:42]
jonnyb	a little remarksbox on the admin tab might be helpful (with an example or two)	[12:43]
luciash	yep, that is true	[12:43]
jonnyb	don't panic - i'm not planning to remove it :)	[12:43]
chibaguy	well, a bunch of stuff needs better docs, hints, etc. ;-) I'm thinking for tiki7, especially	[12:43]
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chibaguy	chibaguy imagines some top-module layout scenarios with screenshots, etc. at doc.t.o...	[12:45]
luciash	i also would like to have some syntax check for those textareas in trunk to prevent broken layouts or WSODs or some easy emergency "UNDO" button (best would be history for those textareas as is for wiki pages ;) - the wiki way everywhere)	[12:45]
chibaguy	or else everyone use Opera ;-)	[12:45]
luciash	chibaguy: heheh	[12:46]
chibaguy	usually you can use the back button to get the page pre-submit, and edit and resubmit	[12:46]
luciash	chibaguy: yes, but that is only us who know that trick ;)	[12:46]
chibaguy	yep, the 2% or whatever	[12:47]
luciash	gotta go now, more after the shower :)	[12:47]
chibaguy	k	[12:49]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r32365 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] registerPasscode default pref: don't call genPass() when buildling prefs defaults, since this tikilib function now needs prefs to work. It has to be called when prefs are already available.	[13:03]
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jonnyb	polom eromneg	[13:18]
eromneg	morning all ;-)	[13:18]
coaboa	daevermann: which irc client do you use? quassel?	[13:21]
eromneg	jonnyb: what is the expected timing now for 6.2 ?	[13:27]
jonnyb	eromneg: it's up to nyloth and pkdille really, but apparently v soon (this week i think) maybe the weekend	[13:31]
eromneg	ok - thanks	[13:31]
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sylvieg	jonnyb: did you take away the old tracker export? I can not find out how to activate it...	[14:13]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - don't think so just turn off ajax?	[14:13]
sylvieg	ahj ok... I will try to reintroduce both - because so far I see the ajax export does not export all the fields	[14:16]
jonnyb	oh? it should do (obviously) i thought it used the same field selecting stuff not fixable? (would be better) :)	[14:16]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32366 10/trunk/lib/TikiWebdav/Backend/File.php.sept: [KIL] Perhaps this should be elsewhere	[14:36]
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Trebly	<chibaguy> <anabody> hi, The other day we had a chat about anomalies on behavior of main display tiki.tpl : "<chibaguy> You can screenshots on wishlist #3773 https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=3773" I simply found (not sure it is the whole explanation) that 2 <div> are not closed (depends of modules shown, someones doesn't closes their <div>), then the normal hierarchy into document object is not right and the css manager is lost. Is somebody interested in this subject ?	[14:44]
jonnyb	hi Trebly - which modules?	[14:45]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32367 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl: [FIX]tracker: filter on time must be empty to have a no filter option when in export filter	[14:54]
luciash	re	[14:55]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32368 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl: [bp/r32367][FIX]tracker: filter on time must be empty to have a no filter option when in export filter	[14:56]
	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32369 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/TikiWebdav/Backend/File.php.sept: [KIL/bp 32366] Shouldn't be in svn :( test leftover	[15:01]
	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32370 10/trunk/lib/core/TikiDb/Table.php: notice: please check this one	[15:15]
jonnyb	sylvieg: did your r 32367 fix the export thing?	[15:22]
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Trebly	<jonnyb>I had made not a full a detailed analysis. I am doing now. It seems that they are the ones in my target (not modified)"calendar", "action_calendar_new" (it is the reason why I ma the lonely to have seen such problems, I show the two modules on left side and the calendar in the center... try to make function together). Firebug is lost. So is it not so easy to find.	[15:31]
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jonnyb	the calendar modules are not great - very heavy on the server so maybe not used much also quite time consuming to fix (missing closing tags)	[15:39]
ricks99	ricks99 thinks calendar modules are highly* useful and should b fixed*	[15:40]
luciash	indeed what i hate is when i change the calendar date it messes up Since last visit module (shows everything or nothing according to the date selected in the calendar) :-p sort of travelling in time ;)	[15:40]
ricks99	info.t.o uses calendar modules. i didnt realize there were validation (DIV) issues what i dont like: when viewing full calendar page, chaging date will also change the date of the module calendar :(	[15:42]
luciash	yep, that's the same issue as with the since last visit...	[15:45]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32371 10/trunk/ (31 files in 12 dirs): [MOD] Moving file gallery code out of tikilib	[15:52]
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coaboa	and sometimes entering a date in 2011 changes to 1911 on save...	[15:54]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32372 10/trunk/ (css/admin.css lib/themegenlib.php templates/themegen.tpl): tikiwiki: [ENH] themegen: Add font and font-family modification (and deal with contents containing quotes). tikiwiki: Some refactoring and show when in preview mode.	[15:54]
luciash	and in trackers using the date field selectors saves day -1 on modify :-p	[15:55]
ricks99	and STILL cannot get plain 12hour am/pm times when creating events	[15:55]
jonnyb	yes, luciash - noticed that. Someone added timezone "awareness" to dates which it always gets wrong if not in UTC (makes dates unusable really)	[15:56]
luciash	jonnyb: i guess that's something related to what u fixed for the articles	[15:57]
jonnyb	a bit, but not the same (i tried but it's very tricky)	[15:57]
luciash	ah	[15:58]
ricks99	ricks99 wishes that articles respected global time settings, too	[15:58]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32373 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: [FIX]TRACKERFILTER: displayedFields can be an array and must be implode for the url tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32374 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: [bp/r32373][FIX]TRACKERFILTER: displayedFields can be an array and must be implode for the url	[16:10]
luciash	ricks99 just earned good karma in forums ;)	[16:16]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r32375 10/trunk/tiki-history_sheets.php: [ADD] Defaults to tiki sheet history so that there is always a date selected	[16:16]
ricks99	lol. all of the easy fixes are done in tiki... so now i try to work on the community-buildind side of things.	[16:17]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32376 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [SEC] list of users is allowed only to tiki_p_list_users	[16:37]
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luciash	jonnyb: {textarea name='body' _wysiwyg='y'}{$body}{/textarea} works nicely for composing webmail jonnyb: how do i add the switch icon ?	[17:07]
jonnyb	super!	[17:08]
luciash	jonnyb: wysiwyg <=> wiki	[17:08]
jonnyb	i think there's a little list in smarty.toolbars.whatever that says if it can appear not pretty, but efficient :P	[17:08]
luciash	jonnyb: i know how to do it optional by preferences but don't know this bit	[17:09]
Tiki\|bot	Info: Announcing the Tiki Service Provider Program - http://info.tiki.org/article147-Announcing-the-Tiki-Service-Provider-Program	[17:09]
luciash	jonnyb: ok, thx, i will try	[17:09]
jonnyb	it will take care of that bit itself afaicr (prefs etc)	[17:09]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: CKEditor buttons ceased working - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=40302	[17:09]
luciash	jonnyb: hmm, where's that smarty.toolbars.whatever... located ?	[17:12]
jonnyb	lib/smarty_tiki	[17:12]
luciash	i don't see anything starting smarty there is it function. ? jonnyb: seems so :)	[17:12]
jonnyb	sorry - function.toolbars.php	[17:13]
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luciash	jonnyb: i see, so i just 'webmail' there, right in the array ?	[17:14]
jonnyb	hang on, i'll check (been a few months) yes, line 51 - after 'cms' i guess	[17:15]
luciash	is it the proper way, or is it better to pass it by param ? thank you	[17:16]
jonnyb	assuming $section is set up properly there (warning!)	[17:16]
luciash	:) yay, it works ! :)	[17:18]
jonnyb	:D is that all it needed?	[17:20]
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jonnyb	oh, and adding the {toolbar} in the tpl i guess...	[17:21]
luciash	yup	[17:21]
jonnyb	(oops, eromneg was asking me to do that months ago!)	[17:21]
luciash	nope, {toolbar} doesn't need to be there it is part of the {textarea} commit soon ;)	[17:21]
jonnyb	oh yes - that's what i meant - it was just a <textarea> before wasn't it?	[17:23]
luciash	yes now all it needs is {textarea name='body'}{$body}{/textarea} and the little change in function.toolbars.php s/change/addition	[17:23]
jonnyb	nice when things work out like that	[17:25]
eromneg	so jonnyb - public confessions of your laziness :-)	[17:25]
jonnyb	:P i did make it quite easy to add so others could join in - just took a bit longer than i'd hoped	[17:26]
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eromneg	luciash/jonnyb: will wysiwyg/webmail be only in trunk - or could it backport to 6.x quite easily?	[17:28]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r32377 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] webmail: use {textarea} smarty block + allow WYSIWYG to compose HTML mails	[17:29]
luciash	eromneg: can be backported easily	[17:29]
eromneg	luciash: could you sneak it into 6.2??	[17:30]
luciash	sure on the way ;)	[17:30]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r32379 10/branches/proposals/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [bp/r32377][ENH] webmail: use {textarea} smarty block + allow WYSIWYG to compose HTML mails	[17:38]
luciash	eromneg: now only little annoying bit is how to make the checkbox "Use HTML mail" under the textarea to be always "checked on" (could be hidden actually) when swicthed to WYSIWYG editor *switched	[17:39]
eromneg	luciash: think it would be better to hide it when using wysiwyg	[17:41]
luciash	luciash imagines Tiki replacing his Thunderbird one day ;)	[17:42]
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luciash	just kidding, but it can be really useful having simple functional webmail... my friend struggles issue of blocked port (the cPanel Webmail one) in his workplace and Tiki is good alternative, because now he can reach his imap mailbox via Tiki's webmail there are still issues (e.g. the attachments are being displayed as "garbage") but getting better in trunk and proposals ;)	[17:45]
Trebly	<jonnyb> Sorry, I had a big crash and could not be back before now. The TPL of the module are not generating directly the div. I need to look up to module.tpl. Before find the exact points where the </div> are forgot. To find this I had to introduce directly into tiki.tpl the two </div> missing at the end of left modules data block. Then firebug feel better. But this doesn't solve at all the problem. I am testing an HTML reformating and parser : it runs 100%... ...cpu for the last 40mn...	[17:49]
jonnyb	Trebly: you know how to have fun, ay! :) i don't think the problem is in module.tpl though (at least in trunk)	[17:50]
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victorkane1	hi there I am interested in finding out about tikiwiki anyone here from Buenos Aires? Is there anyone here I can ask questions about Tiki Wiki?	[17:57]
luciash	Argentina, yay ! :)	[17:58]
ricks99	what is your question	[17:58]
jonnyb	hi victorkane1	[17:58]
victorkane1	@ricks99 Well, I have been using Drupal for the past six years	[17:59]
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victorkane1	Before that I came from the world of Java, spring etc	[17:59]
luciash	victorkane1: we have someone in Brazil, but Buenos Aires not yet	[17:59]
victorkane1	@luciash ok @ricks99 I am interested in knowing how the development process goes for developing a web application	[17:59]
ricks99	Have you seen the Tiki dev site (dev.tiki.org)? you might also be interested in http://tiki.org/Model	[18:00]
victorkane1	@ricks99 One of the problems in Drupal is that configuration is interactive and goes straight to the database and is confused with content; and it is very difficult to deploy sites, and to work in a straightforword manner with "everything in code" I will definitely check out Model a quick question: can you easily export content and import it in another site? is it straightforward to set up a dev, test and live workflow?	[18:01]
ricks99	99.99% of Tiki configuration is from the browser. Very rarely will you to access the database simply to deploy or configure a Tiki site	[18:02]
Trebly	<jonnyb> I will find exactly where because Pspad (with extensions) have made a good job. Now I have to find groups and where the levels become wrong. note that in the page there are 4885 <div and 4883 </div. I do think that module.tpl was not concerned, it was a joke. I means find even the most simple which generates the error. I have suspicion on the calendars because I know that the problem comes from the left module and in these there are two calendars modules, suspect...	[18:02]
ricks99	@victorkane1: you might enjoy Tiki beginner's guide http://twbasics.keycontent.org/HomePage,+pt	[18:03]
victorkane1	OK, I will go through the docs of course	[18:04]
ricks99	there are also live demos online at tiki.org/demo	[18:04]
victorkane1	then come back for more specific questions, thanks!	[18:04]
ricks99	no problem. There's also the support forums and mailing lists, too.	[18:05]
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luciash	eromneg: please note that "Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG" must be off (it is marked experimental anyway) to have the email sent as HTML mail, otherwise it is sent as HTML but with wiki syntax eromneg: just found out testing it	[18:15]
eromneg	luciash: yep - know all about that :-) I spent lots and lots of 'happy' hours working with jonnyb last year getting the ckeditor up to its current 'state' - and early on we realised that 'wiki text' was step too far at this time	[18:18]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r32380 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Tons for fixes for sheet tikiwiki: [MOD] Moved all functionality from tiki-history_sheets.js to grid.js tikiwiki: [MOD] In tiki-sheets.tpl, I changed Edit #1 to "Config", so now we can edit and configure sheets tikiwiki: [MOD] A few title changes to make it easier for end users	[19:01]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32384 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [MOD] tooltips: Add delay and use hoverIntent on cluetips tooltips defaults	[19:59]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32385 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [bp/r32384][MOD] tooltips: Add delay and use hoverIntent on cluetips tooltips defaults	[20:04]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Big Picture Question - Can we do it, YES WE CAN! Riight? :) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40303	[20:19]
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luciash	this is weird: when i enable "Content is partially wiki parsed" on the Admin Wysiwyg panel, my wiki pages stop to interpret wiki syntax and display it as plain text so instead of Headings level two i see !!HomePage, etc. (in proposals) when i swicth it off, everything is displayed fine again	[20:49]
	hullo ? luciash dislikes his long night monologues :)	[21:00]
	s/long/lonely/	[21:08]
sylvieg	hello luciash	[21:22]
luciash	hi sylvie!	[21:24]
sylvieg	I suppose the content parially parsed is bugged because nobody has the same comprehension of this param...	[21:30]
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luciash	sylvieg: ah :-/ is there some perm tiki_p_view_slideshow ? (i cannot get rid of displaying the [Slideshow] buttonlink on the bottom of some pages) for Anonymous	[21:42]
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sylvieg	no perms checked in tiki-page_bar.tpl	[21:51]
luciash	aye, only feature check	[21:54]
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