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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32416 10/trunk/tiki-export_tracker_ajax.php: [FIX]tracker: encode also the fieldnames in the ajax export tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32417 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-export_tracker_ajax.php: [bp/r32416][FIX]tracker: encode also the fieldnames in the ajax export	[00:08]
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Lawiz	Hi all! :) is there a way in Tiki to force the URL rewriting with a domain redirection?	[00:31]
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luciash	Lawiz: yes, in apache server .htaccess	[01:04]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r32418 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/ (17 files in 17 dirs): [KIL] Old theme versions, now in mods.	[01:29]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32419 10/trunk/lib/init/smarty.php: [FIX] notice : add more picture pathes to secure_dir tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32420 10/trunk/ (13 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD] introduce {autocomplete} smarty plugin for less code duplication and tikiwiki: better feature testing....	[08:23]
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xavi	polom	[09:46]
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chibaguy	hi xavi chibaguy remembers he should do a jShowOff doc page...	[09:49]
xavi	hi chibaguy ah :-) thanks for remembering xavi wishes he could clone Gary	[09:49]
chibaguy	I'll gather up the information for that and get started.	[09:50]
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xavi	xavi reconsiders: better if Gary could clone himslef whenever he (Gary) feels that he needs it	[09:51]
chibaguy	heh, I wish I could clone me, too, but maybe not without making improvements ;-)	[09:51]
xavi	:-)	[09:51]
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chibaguy	well, it's good to document that slideshow because I need to have the info on hand anyway.	[09:56]
xavi	he he that usually happens to me, with most things I document	[09:57]
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chibaguy	xavi: I put the info at http://zukakakina.com/jShowOff+demo so far, but it isn't working, naturally :-/ Am I too sleep to notice an obvious problem?	[10:37]
xavi	having a look well, it works for me if I hit play it moves to second content and after a while (10 sec. or so) moves to the third and manually going forward or backwards also works what did you mean by "but it isn't working"? is there any image to be shown besides the test?	[10:39]
chibaguy	No image, just the text lines. Oh, it's working for you?	[10:41]
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chibaguy	Ah, it's working for me in Opera, but not in FF.	[10:42]
xavi	ok, I tried with Epiphany-browser hi rodrigo_sampaio ! btw, Gary, themes will benefit from geshi (if it's installed) did you try adding "colors=javascript" to the plugin code syntax?	[10:42]
chibaguy	well, anyway, it's pretty simple. You can put in any content, and change the configuration as described on the script's web page.	[10:43]
xavi	oh well, I mean in zukakakina	[10:44]
rodrigo_sampaio	hi xavi! xavi: I was going to write you an email right now to let you know that I'm back from my vacations	[10:44]
xavi	welcome back ! :-)	[10:45]
rodrigo_sampaio	xavi: thanks :)	[10:46]
xavi	nice trip at the mountains?	[10:46]
chibaguy	hi rodrigo_sampaio	[10:46]
rodrigo_sampaio	hi chibaguy xavi: amazing trip	[10:46]
xavi	chibaguy: has there been any discussion about adding jShowOff jquery plugin to tiki code base?	[10:47]
rodrigo_sampaio	xavi: I stayed the whole month in a place called Frey near Bariloche climbing	[10:47]
xavi	rodrigo_sampaio: if you have pics, and public, send me a link some day (I'll look at the in the evening at home one day with Gloria)	[10:47]
chibaguy	no, I think everyone's too busy. It never came up, as far as I know. License is MIT and GPL.	[10:47]
xavi	chibaguy: so license MIT is compatible, isn't it?	[10:48]
chibaguy	yes, i think so rodrigo_sampaio: which mountains?	[10:48]
rodrigo_sampaio	xavi: I will publish something in the next days and then I let you know	[10:48]
xavi	to me, this jShowOff jquery thing is a very good candiate to bring new look to the home page of the featured profiles in Tiki7 ;-)	[10:48]
chibaguy	yes, and very simple.	[10:49]
xavi	rodrigo_sampaio: ok, no hurries, take you time to re-settle down, of course :-)	[10:49]
rodrigo_sampaio	chibaguy: a few moutains around Bariloche in Argentina	[10:49]
chibaguy	ah just checking google images; it looks very nice around there.	[10:49]
xavi	chibaguy: wait for rodrigo_sampaio's images, They 'll be nicer ;-)	[10:50]
chibaguy	oh yeah, for sure. :-)	[10:50]
xavi	s/wait for/give it a second go with	[10:51]
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xavi	chibaguy, see pm	[11:05]
chibaguy	xavi, I also like this one: http://dev.herr-schuessler.de/jquery/popeye/	[11:10]
xavi	chibaguy: did you consider adding geshi to zukakakina?	[11:10]
chibaguy	but the license is gpl so the author would have to agree to a dual license.	[11:10]
xavi	if you have ftp access (at least), it's pretty easy to add	[11:10]
chibaguy	no, I didn't think about that.	[11:11]
xavi	and this way, you'll have syntax highlight of the html, css, js jq code that you write there and show inside plugincodes	[11:11]
chibaguy	that'd be good	[11:11]
xavi	I did document how to add it , in the page http://doc.tiki.org/PluginCode	[11:11]
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chibaguy	ok, I'll check on that.	[11:12]
xavi	and if it looks too complicated, then it means that this page can be improved, since it's fairly easy	[11:12]
jonnyb	polom y'all	[11:12]
xavi	hi jonnyb	[11:12]
chibaguy	hello jonny b	[11:13]
xavi	chibaguy: I agree, I like popeye a lot! there seems to be many nice goodies as jquery plugins	[11:15]
chibaguy	yep	[11:15]
xavi	chibaguy: have you used popeye in any tiki site?	[11:15]
chibaguy	No, not yet.	[11:16]
xavi	:-) xavi looking again for the button "Clone Chibaguy"	[11:16]
chibaguy	:-)	[11:17]
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chibaguy	re	[12:17]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy - just going to look into this modules thing	[12:27]
chibaguy	ok, thanks.	[12:31]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32421 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.autocomplete.php: [ENH] autocomplete: Add 'options' parameter to smarty function (and some comments)	[13:07]
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xavi	jonnyb: btw & fyi: I tested the amdin modules in trunk, and while I'm there, I cannot click anywhere else in tiki well, I can click, but links are not working for me I wonder if it's a known temp. issue s/amdin/admin	[13:14]
jonnyb	the links on the modules are disabled (except for the app menu) so you can drag them about without ending up somewhere else! as it says in the remarksbox (starting in bold :P ) should be bigger? or just not do that (believe me, it's really annoying)	[13:15]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32422 10/trunk/lib/init/smarty.php: [FIX] Typo thnx marc	[13:26]
	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32423 10/trunk/styles/layout/design.css: [CSS] design: looser padding for jquery-ui tabs tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32424 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] modules revamp: Tabs layout for module parameter sections, and a few other minor fixes	[13:36]
jonnyb	you still going chibaguy? r32424 should sort out the modules admin forms (hopefully)	[13:38]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32425 10/trunk/lib/modules/tiki-admin_modules.js: [FIX] modules revamp: Module flip & edit icons clicks	[13:46]
xavi	back jonnyb: ah, I see	[13:56]
jonnyb	:)	[13:57]
xavi	he he, sorry, I hadn't read that part (too long all together). After the butllet points I stopped reading +1 to have that last sentence in red or similar I understand that it's a feature, but I must admit that I was not aware of that when I read that page and I must admit that I normally read the interface/pages more than average users	[13:57]
jonnyb	you soon would be if it didn't do that, because you'd me somewhere else!	[13:58]
xavi	if this serves as a reference	[13:58]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32426 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: typo	[13:59]
ricks99	ricks99 is going to have to start playing with tiki7/trunk at some point...	[14:00]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32427 10/trunk/lib/core/TikiDb/Table.php: [FIX] Allow more complex sortings as well. tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32428 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: [bp/r32426]typo	[14:00]
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philback	I am having a hard time finding why smarty's not working inside my {jq} code. e.g. {jq} $("#track_102").val="{$x.id\|escape}");{/jq} The $x isn't used. The HTML still contains it. Any clue? Things like $("#track_102").parent().parent().hide(); do work. So, jq works. BTW the $x works in the tpl outside of the {jq}	[14:08]
jonnyb	hi philback - you need to "escape" back to smarty parsing mode - use two curlies... jq} $("irc://irc.freenode.net/#track_102").val="{{$x.id\|escape}}");{/jq}	[14:11]
philback	ok, like {{$x ?	[14:11]
jonnyb	yup	[14:11]
philback	cool! Thanks!	[14:12]
jonnyb	:)	[14:12]
philback	you rule.	[14:12]
jonnyb	(i don;t document much though, sorry)	[14:12]
philback	no issue, I'll add that to the trackers page once it works here.	[14:12]
jonnyb	ta	[14:12]
philback	works for my textarea. $("#area_103").text("{{$calitem.name\|escape}}"); but not for my text field $("#track_102").val("{{$calitem.id\|escape}}"); no value show	[14:14]
jonnyb	odd - trackers use different naming conventions depending on all manner of things	[14:15]
philback	anyway, I am much further now :-)	[14:16]
jonnyb	the only way usually is to get it to print out exactly what's in the var - could be anything	[14:16]
philback	using Firebug now...	[14:16]
jonnyb	don't assume what works for textareas is anything like what inputs do	[14:16]
philback	$("#track_102").parent().parent().hide(); $("#area_103").parent().parent().parent().hide(); 102= text 103=textarea names also diff otherwise, jq is a godsend mmmh, user error: replace user. My fault. was using wrond $x.y var. Problems compounded :-p @jonnyb, interested in doing a tracker article for ricks99 together?	[14:17]
jonnyb	philback: wouldn't mind doing a skype chat to help, but no time for significant "human language" writing (too difficult!)	[14:25]
ricks99	tx guys	[14:27]
jonnyb	hi ricks99 - actually, thinking about it i should probably spend the "spare" time reading lphuberdeau's new tracker plans...	[14:28]
ricks99	np. just thinking of a short article to highlight trackers. where we've been and where we'r going.	[14:30]
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jonnyb	what's the plural of radius?	[14:32]
chibaguy	radii	[14:32]
jonnyb	hmm, radii	[14:32]
ricks99	radii	[14:33]
jonnyb	like latin :)	[14:33]
xavi	back	[14:33]
SDuensin	FrIdAy!	[14:33]
xavi	jonnyb, I need some some help for JQuery magic prefilling drop down fields I thought I had that working, but I've just noticed that it doesn't work this syntax in a wiki page template: {wikiplugin _name=jq} if (!$("select[name=track_91]").[0].selectedIndex) $("select[name=track_91]").val("temp2");{/wikiplugin}	[14:34]
jonnyb	so that's smarty syntax, right?	[14:35]
chibaguy	thanks, jonnyb, I'm svn-upping now.	[14:35]
xavi	and the page where it's called, has this call to the trackerlist: {TRACKERLIST(trackerId="1", wiki="BP Template Section 02")}{TRACKERLIST}	[14:35]
jonnyb	chibaguy: i'm just doing a new section for themegen for borders (width etc) - what's next?	[14:35]
xavi	jonnyb: yes, that's smarty syntax and the last one is wiki syntax, to use that previous content as template	[14:36]
jonnyb	so does: {wikiplugin _name=jq} alert("woot"); {/wikiplugin} work?	[14:36]
xavi	trying	[14:36]
jonnyb	why not use wiki syntax (it's a wiki page, right?)	[14:37]
xavi	well, yes... but I was planning to merge R output with jquery in smarty templates however, you are right, I can skip may be the smarty template s/may be/maybe trying again without smarty template (it must work then)	[14:38]
jonnyb	also try doing it in the firebug command line ah, you have a JS error $("select[name=track_91]").[0] should be $("select[name=track_91]")[0] (no dot)	[14:39]
xavi	ah, ok, thanks	[14:41]
ricks99	i have an i18n question... is it possible to include the page lang selection in a module? we have switch_lang module, but that is for the site interface. is there something specifically for page translation? ... using tiki6	[14:41]
xavi	yay, thanks jonnyb, it's working finally! tiny dot...	[14:42]
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jonnyb	:D	[14:43]
xavi	I need to document it , before I forget how I did it :-)	[14:43]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32429 10/trunk/templates/wiki_edit_actions.tpl: [FIX] Fix "Preview" button to match other buttons "Cancel" and "Save"	[14:44]
xavi	ricks99, no idea, I never heard or saw something like that as already coded	[14:44]
ricks99	k. looks like i'll have to modify the translation module	[14:47]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32430 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/wiki_edit_actions.tpl: [FIX/bp 32429] Fix "Preview" button to match other buttons "Cancel" and "Save" tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32431 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.html_select_time.php: [FIX]tracker: export with a time field with no selection must not filter the items with hour, mn, sec equals to space	[14:47]
xavi	jonnyb, so far so good. But my idea was to prefill the dropdown with some values returned by the R plugin I mean, instead of:	[14:51]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32432 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.html_select_time.php: [bp/r32431][FIX]tracker: export with a time field with no selection must not filter the items with hour, mn, sec equals to space	[14:52]
xavi	{JQ()} if (!$("select[name=track_91]")[0].selectedIndex) $("select[name=track_91]").val("temp2") {JQ} which is working to prefil with "temp2" I wanted to prefill with the output of a PluginR call I mean, this syntax: {R(loadandsave=1)}cat(column2designNumber);{R} returns number: 4 in the wiki page but I tried with something like:	[14:52]
jonnyb	hmmm	[14:53]
xavi	{JQ()} if (!$("select[name=track_91]")[0].selectedIndex) $("select[name=track_91]").val("{{R(loadandsave=1)}}cat(column2designNumber);{{R}}") {JQ} and it didn't work number 4 is one of the options in the drop down, but is not pre-selected	[14:53]
jonnyb	is it trackerlist? try adding the force_compile param	[14:54]
xavi	"trackerlist"?	[14:54]
jonnyb	and what does the source end up with (in the browser)	[14:54]
xavi	track_91 is in a trackerlist ah, ok	[14:54]
jonnyb	it's a template right? nested plugins in templates are a nightmare	[14:54]
xavi	nope, I'm not using template any more pure wiki page	[14:55]
jonnyb	hmm, ok - that's good (some chance of working :P )	[14:55]
xavi	see: https://161.116.82.31/tiki/BasicPipe+Section+02&itemId=33 afair, you have an account there, don't you?	[14:56]
jonnyb	yes, but must focus here sorry	[14:56]
xavi	ok I understand	[14:56]
jonnyb	don't mind little comments here (just can't cope with yet another browser window now!)	[14:57]
xavi	he he, I know that feeling	[14:57]
jonnyb	looks like the jq plugin stops nested plugins being parsed...	[14:57]
xavi	so is pluginJq supposed to cope with another plugin call inside the val("")?	[14:57]
jonnyb	can you get the R value into a hidden input for instance, then get it from there by jq?	[14:58]
xavi	mmmm, that sounds beyond my skills but with some url as example, I mguht get what ytou mean	[14:58]
jonnyb	doesn't sound like it - i know {tr} works but possibly nothing else you'd have to put the input & R call in an html plugin - might end up with the same prob	[14:59]
xavi	maybe through smarty it's easier? somehow feed a new smarty var with the R output, and then, use that smarty variable within the jquery value? xavi needs to learn more smarty	[15:00]
jonnyb	no var needed, just use the {wikiplugin } thing inside an html <input> tag?	[15:03]
xavi	ah, ok, ... I'll try thanks for tip	[15:03]
luciash	xavi: hi, i usually do capture	[15:06]
jonnyb	the css "border" definition is an extraordinary thing...	[15:08]
xavi	hi luciash . What do yo umean by "capture" ?	[15:10]
luciash	xavi: for example in PTT i have {capture name="foo" assign="bar"}{wikiplugin _name="include" page="MyPage"}{/wikiplugin}{/capture} xavi: then i can work with the smarty variable $bar	[15:10]
xavi	interesting	[15:11]
luciash	xavi: for example {$bar\|truncate:220}	[15:11]
xavi	thks	[15:11]
luciash	and i get content of the include plugin truncated on 220 chars i mean content of the output generated by the include plugin xavi: ah, now i read it is not PTT, but pure wiki page, sorry	[15:11]
xavi	nope, luciash , I was considering to use PTT if needed so thanks for tip	[15:16]
luciash	but you can use smarty plugin to do the same even out of PTT i suppose {SMARTY()}...{SMARTY} (but i must admit i never tested that one yet)	[15:17]
xavi	ah, ok mmm , that smarty plugin seems to allow only the usage of smarty functions already available in a folder in the tiki file tree so not for custom smarty code, it seems	[15:20]
luciash	but capture is standard smarty function u mean that plugin doesn't allow smarty code in the body ? that would be pretty useless plugin then :-p i thought it is simmilar to the HTML plugin just allowing smarty code inside (with plugin approval of corse) *course xavi: is that so ?	[15:26]
xavi	I thought as you, but it seems it's not what we expected and see: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginSmarty	[15:30]
luciash	thx, going to look	[15:31]
xavi	I tried with smarty code in the body, but nothing happened	[15:31]
Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3784 - - Machine Translation broken: results in empty page - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3784	[15:32]
luciash	xavi: ah :( it seems limited to smarty functions :( useless xavi: one more reason why we need to keep the smarty code in PTT optional in trunk	[15:33]
xavi	+1	[15:34]
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RavenC	polom does anyone know if the "Bug_Tracker" profile works with 6.1? Under Categories, it lists: 3.x, beta, Mini-profile (can be included in other), 4.x, 5.x	[15:40]
xavi	RavenC: try it and if it works, update the cateorization in profiles.t.o	[15:42]
RavenC	hehehe.... I had a feeling that was coming!! :)	[15:43]
xavi	:-)	[15:43]
RavenC	will do xavi... cannot hurt anything	[15:43]
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RavenC	xavi, worked perfectly. I will update the category now. Thanks	[15:58]
xavi	np jonny, I'm trying with a text field first, and not fully succeeded but nearly...	[16:09]
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xavi	jonnyb: in that wiki page I have: {HTML()}<input type="text" name="testingr" id="testingr" value="temp3" /> {HTML} and below: {JQ()} if (!$("#other_track_91").val()) $("#other_track_91").val(testingr) {JQ} I expected to have the text "temp3" prefilled in the text field 91 but Ihave instead: [object HTMLInputElement] "other_track" and not "track" because that's the syntax for a text field of a "dorp down + other" field type	[16:10]
jonnyb	what is testingr? a variable?	[16:12]
xavi	yes well no I mean, anything, a name fo rthe field	[16:12]
philback	Just a bug in wikiplugin trackers: when not logged in, and anonymous being able to insert items in the tracker, I get the captcha. But.. the captcha test keeps telling me: "You have mistyped the antibot code". Any idea on what to do.? A setting or a code dive into the plugin?	[16:13]
xavi	it can be anything, I guess	[16:13]
jonnyb	ok, so you need to get the val() out of it, yes?	[16:13]
xavi	yes	[16:13]
philback	The plugin is in my own code, in a tpl with {wikiplugin _name=tracker trackerId=11 fields=110:101:102:108:109:103:104:105:106:107 action=register showmandatory=y url=socius-register.php?registered&itemId}{/wikiplugin}	[16:13]
jonnyb	so you need something like ... $("irc://irc.freenode.net/#other_track_91").val($("#testingr").val())	[16:14]
xavi	ok	[16:14]
philback	Ahah, the return :-)	[16:14]
jonnyb	sorry philback - could well be a bug	[16:14]
philback	all right, I am in for a code dive... damn trackers ;-p.	[16:14]
xavi	philback: fill in your tank before starting the dive! (to avoid getting out of oxygen ;-)	[16:15]
philback	BTW, got a team I coach using Tiki for all doc management and collaborative work! Yay! It's a project with a high profile, so once further, I'll ask for permission to publish. There are tons of material in there. Well, I already exhausted several bottles in the past, it becomes quite known territory :-) Power doesn't come cheap indeed!	[16:15]
xavi	:-)	[16:16]
philback	<putiing debugging mask/>	[16:17]
luciash	u guys r typing so fast i hardly catch ;)	[16:17]
philback	Don't worry, I'll be mostly typing F7: step over in the next few hours...	[16:17]
luciash	:)	[16:17]
xavi	yay, again, jonnyb, you got the solution! it works! thanks again :-)	[16:17]
jonnyb	jonnyb wants an ISO standard for debugging shortcuts enforced by law	[16:18]
luciash	xavi: with jQuery it's easy... only disadvantage is you depend on JS (client side)	[16:18]
xavi	:-D	[16:18]
lphuberdeau	I don't think much of the world works without JS anymore	[16:18]
xavi	luciash: yes, I agree	[16:18]
luciash	g	[16:18]
xavi	lphuberdeau: my phone 3g does weird things with js (symbian)	[16:19]
luciash	lphuberdeau: yep, but if you want avoid surprises it's better to not to (like with the mandatory fields check)	[16:19]
xavi	jonnyb, now I tried with the pluginR output inside the html call, and it's not parsed I mean, having this code: {HTML()}<input type="hidden" name="testingr" id="testingr" value="{{R(loadandsave=1)}}cat(column2designNumber);{{R}}" /> {HTML}	[16:21]
jonnyb	bleh - was fearing that :(	[16:22]
chibaguy	jonnyb, I'm still having trouble with the module parameters. Are they working ok for you?	[16:22]
xavi	I get this content added to the text field (literally): {{R(loadandsave=1)}}cat(column2designNumber);{{R}}	[16:22]
jonnyb	xavi: you could split the html into two {html} chunks?	[16:22]
xavi	? how can I do that?	[16:23]
jonnyb	{HTML()}<input type="hidden" name="testingr" id="testingr" value="{HTML}{R(loadandsave=1)}}cat(column2designNumber);{{R}{HTML()}" /> {HTML}	[16:23]
xavi	ah, nice trick :-) testing	[16:24]
jonnyb	chibaguy: yes, module params were saving for me - what's broken for oyu?	[16:24]
philback	What's that R plugin ? New thing?	[16:25]
xavi	philback: see http://doc.tiki.org/PluginR	[16:26]
luciash	xavi: somtimes helped me putting the stuff into another plugin "wrapper" (e.g. {DIV()}...{DIV}) and the parsing magically worked again	[16:26]
chibaguy	If I assign visibility for one theme, it's ok, but if I add a second, with a semicolon between, it doesn't show up (menu, for example).	[16:26]
luciash	nested plugins are buggy	[16:27]
xavi	jonnyb: I get then, inside the text field: "<a id=" without quotes luciash: thanks for tip. I'll try	[16:27]
philback	@xavi: super, I am a R user!!!!	[16:28]
luciash	xavi: or if u can u can avoid using the {HTML()} plugin and use allow HTML on the page	[16:28]
jonnyb	xavi: so the {R} plugin generates a <a> does it? (i thought you said it would be just a number)	[16:29]
luciash	xavi: but i see, in collaborative env it is better to use HTML plugin	[16:29]
xavi	philback: are you?? :-)	[16:29]
philback	Got "The R book" and "Stats avec R" located at 50 cms of my keyboard. That's terrific for my team project !!! I am	[16:29]
xavi	welcome to PluginR then, philback ! :-)	[16:29]
philback	Good. Thanks. I am now auditing a project with tons of source code and putting stats in R form in Tiki will make execs of my client jump all around the office :-)	[16:30]
xavi	jonnyb, I'll see the code (it's a number with pre tags)	[16:30]
philback	Is in in trunk/ or 6.x?	[16:30]
chibaguy	jonnyb, I can see parameters listed for a module in the assigned-modules list, but when I click the edit icon, there's nothing in the textfield for that parameter. Just basically a disconnect in various ways.	[16:30]
xavi	luciash: this is not for collaboration with users, but trying to leave some interface kind of usable (workflow to use R scripts from Web pages in pretty trackers, etc) philback: both philback: in trunk, you get the bonus of the syntax highlighting, of course :-)	[16:30]
jonnyb	chibaguy: normal module or user one?	[16:31]
xavi	by codemirror	[16:31]
luciash	philback: LOL about the jumping execs :D	[16:31]
chibaguy	normal, mainly I'm assigning menu, logo, login and search in either of the two top module areas.	[16:32]
philback	ok, will go trunk then.	[16:32]
luciash	philback: layout of trunk is not stable enough yet though	[16:32]
chibaguy	...and assigning a theme or !theme for visibility.	[16:32]
xavi	philback: but remember the Pretty tracker templates in wiki pages don't work in trunk right now	[16:32]
jonnyb	chibaguy: odd - i see nobox and style has stuff in for me logo module	[16:32]
xavi	due to that commit byu nyloth, afaik	[16:32]
luciash	philback: there's chance codemirror will come to 6.x branch later too	[16:33]
chibaguy	jonnyb, yes, it seems kind of hit and miss here. I haven't tested enough yet to see if there's a pattern.	[16:33]
jonnyb	chibaguy: so it's the theme thing mainly? (forgot to test that)	[16:34]
chibaguy	modules with parameters set earlier are still ok, but new edits (since several days ago) haven't been working as expected.	[16:34]
jonnyb	you svn up'ed?	[16:34]
luciash	philback: in other words, what xavi says, they do work, but without any custom smarty code - if you use smarty in PTT wiki pages, no luck with trunk yet	[16:34]
chibaguy	yes, that's what i've been working on, as I update the themes.	[16:34]
jonnyb	and have tabs	[16:34]
philback	ok, will checkout trunk and pick up R then :-) and let you knwo.	[16:35]
xavi	philback: you'b better start tesing the whole thing by means of the profile "r_test" it will get you introduced much quickly, probably :-)	[16:36]
jonnyb	chibaguy: i set theme to !jqui.css on my logo and it works ok	[16:36]
chibaguy	ok, now add another theme like !tikinewt.css	[16:37]
philback	all right anyway, you got me excited. Following on tiki and squeak (other open source thing of interest) is not easy...	[16:37]
xavi	"you got me excited" : I know that feeling :-)	[16:38]
jonnyb	chibaguy: ok, with two ! themes is seems to never show	[16:39]
xavi	jonnyb: about "so the {R} plugin generates a <a> does it? (i thought you said it would be just a number)" it seems that the <a> tag is coming from the icon for the plugin helper I'll remove those icons	[16:39]
chibaguy	jonnyb, yes and note the way the = gets encoded in the parameters list. I don't know if that's related or just adding insult to injury.	[16:40]
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jonnyb	looks like a bug in modlib - i haven't changed those bits (on purpose) yes, the encoded param thing is messy, but it's all done in smarty so hard to sort out appears in the edit form ok (for me) xavi: what does your {R} plug produce then? if it's in an html element already you can probably get at it via jquery	[16:40]
xavi	it is a number surrounded by <pre> tags	[16:43]
jonnyb	no id or class? :(	[16:43]
RavenC	I created a menu called top menu. For the life of me, i cannot figure out how to set the permissions. I want it to be visible to registered and admin, and not anonymous. I cannot find "menu" under any of the sections. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?	[16:43]
xavi	but you mean that I could extend the PluginR to have the output inside some custom div with custom id and custom name, so that the value can be fetched by jquery????	[16:43]
jonnyb	if it's the only one on the page you could use $("pre").text()	[16:44]
luciash	RavenC: second tab	[16:44]
xavi	interesting this dive into the JQ world! xavi testing xavi running out of "fuel" also	[16:44]
luciash	RavenC: on modules admin	[16:45]
jonnyb	of $("pre:eq(17)").text() for the 17th one of/or	[16:45]
xavi	ok	[16:45]
RavenC	I see the menu listed nder user modules...	[16:46]
xavi	brb (need some food urgently)	[16:47]
luciash	RavenC: if u need it in 6 in top (as it seems) you need to put something like {if $user}{menu id=YOURMENUID type=css}{/if} on Look & Feel admin panel in the custom top bar menu code textarea	[16:49]
RavenC	I selected Admins Registered in Groups in the assigned modules, but when i log in as a registered user, the menu doesn't show	[16:49]
chibaguy	bbl. dog-walk time.	[16:50]
luciash	RavenC: in 6 the modules admin is useful only for assigned modules which is not straightforward for top and bottom RavenC: only for left/right modules	[16:50]
RavenC	hmmm... ok makes sense	[16:50]
luciash	RavenC: see http://doc.tiki.org/Menu#Contextual_menu_example	[16:52]
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luciash	RavenC: it's a bit different case, but on the page u can find lot of useful info	[16:53]
RavenC	luciash: Thanks for the help I will see what I can find. :)	[16:54]
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RavenC	sadly, I don't see anything referring to permissions there other than to create/edit... I guess two menus on the left will have to suffice :)	[16:59]
luciash	RavenC: it is really easy when you know how... i think that bit of info is missing from the docs what is your menu ID ?	[17:00]
RavenC	yeah, sadly I am not in the "know" crowd... hehehe menuID 43 looks perfect for admin blank for registered	[17:01]
luciash	ok, then go to the Look & Feel panel	[17:01]
RavenC	I'm thre	[17:01]
luciash	second tab	[17:01]
RavenC	there	[17:01]
luciash	ok	[17:01]
RavenC	Top Bar checked, Menu ID set at 43	[17:02]
luciash	check the Site menu bar too	[17:04]
RavenC	it is checked as well, sorry as is search bar...	[17:04]
luciash	insert this there: {menu id=43 css=y type=horiz} leave Menu ID field blank	[17:04]
RavenC	ok	[17:05]
luciash	now before the menu code put this: {if $user} and after put this: {/if} so it will look like {if $user}{menu id=43 css=y type=horiz}{/if}	[17:05]
RavenC	ok, done	[17:06]
luciash	now when you Apply, every logged in user (Registered which includes Admins, right ?) will see the menu	[17:06]
RavenC	ok	[17:07]
luciash	Anonymous will not see it	[17:07]
RavenC	cool I will try logging in as registered I log in as a registered user and the top bar is blank	[17:07]
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luciash	RavenC: oh, maybe it needs to check like this: {if $user neq ''}... RavenC: sorry neq means "not equal" and '' means "empty"	[17:08]
RavenC	ok, i will put in {if $user neq ''} still blank... :/	[17:11]
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luciash	RavenC: do you have CSS menus feature on ?	[17:12]
RavenC	Requires CSS Menus ( ok )	[17:13]
luciash	ok, humm, can u try clear the Tiki cache ?	[17:13]
RavenC	just did ;) before posting	[17:13]
luciash	(though i think it shouldn't be necessary) RavenC: you didn't set any Group permissions on your menu items, did you ?	[17:14]
RavenC	luciash: I didn't know how....	[17:14]
luciash	ok, i wonder why it doesn't show up for you logged in then	[17:15]
RavenC	i thought that was the route to go, but it said nothing was assigned and would use global perms	[17:15]
luciash	it definitely works usually	[17:15]
RavenC	hehehe RavenC is always the exception to the rule	[17:15]
luciash	RavenC: can you just try to put before the "{menu" some text ? if it will show up ? like DEBUG	[17:17]
RavenC	sure clicked apply, shows up for admin logged in as registered, DEBUG appears	[17:18]
luciash	fine, so the condition works just the menu doesn't appear for some reason	[17:19]
RavenC	hmmmm	[17:19]
luciash	do u have other menus ?	[17:20]
RavenC	I was just about to create another to test :)	[17:20]
luciash	so u can try different id	[17:20]
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RavenC	Created menu 44 ... changed the one line to reflect that in look&feel... works perfectly	[17:25]
luciash	mystery :)	[17:25]
RavenC	luciash, I bow to your mega knowledge and massive patience. Thanks very much for assisting me :)	[17:25]
luciash	np, you're welcome	[17:26]
xavi	jonnyb, I've created some id and name in the pre generated by pluginR using the number of the pre didn't work for me can I use somehow those names? I tried, with no success.... I'll paste the syntax Iused... mmmm,	[17:27]
jonnyb	hmm?	[17:29]
xavi	amazing, it works! with the id and name inside the pre tags uff! before I was using val() and it didn't work but with text() it did	[17:30]
jonnyb	you shouldn't need name. i think (name is really just for values in forms)	[17:30]
xavi	so, this works: {JQ()} if (!$("#other_track_92").val()) $("#other_track_92").val($("#routput").text()){JQ}	[17:30]
jonnyb	aha, inputs etc have .val() - other stuff has .text()	[17:31]
xavi	being "routput" the id and name of the pre generated by R yes, that was my mistake!	[17:31]
jonnyb	woo hoo!	[17:31]
xavi	:-D wohooo²	[17:31]
luciash	:)	[17:31]
xavi	wohooo^10 :-D	[17:31]
luciash	xavi: you can also use .html()	[17:31]
xavi	can I? wohoo.html() ? :-D	[17:32]
luciash	if u want to preserve html of the element just a side note ;)	[17:32]
xavi	thanks guys for all you help! xavi feels more relaxed now! with this, I think, I can manage most of my needs playing with tiki trackers, smarty, jq and R	[17:32]
luciash	xavi: is your next plugin going to be called "." ? ;)	[17:35]
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xavi	:-)	[17:36]
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xavi	lphuberdeau: see pm	[17:39]
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lphuberdeau	as I refactor code in file galleries, I come to realize that there is absolutely no consistency in how anything is handled	[17:55]
ricks99	lol. you've been working with tiki how long? And you just now discovered this?	[17:55]
lphuberdeau	well, it's worst than usual	[17:56]
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lphuberdeau	those "podcast galleries" are simply a data corruption machine	[17:57]
luciash	g	[18:00]
lphuberdeau	depending on how the file gets uploaded, I really don't know if it always goes at the same place under the same conditions	[18:03]
xavi	jonnyb, and how to hide the output from pluginR in the page (so that the end user don't see it twice), while allowing jquery to fetch it? I tried surrounding the pluginR call with ~tc~ ~/tc~, but that prevent jquery to fetch it, it seems and same with ~hc~ ~/hc~	[18:06]
jonnyb	that would stop it being parsed	[18:07]
xavi	ok	[18:07]
jonnyb	you could put it in a hidden div?	[18:07]
xavi	hidden div: I feel as if I'm learning black (html) magic today	[18:08]
jonnyb	{DIV(class="hidden")}blah blah...	[18:08]
xavi	{DIV(type="hidden")}foo{DIV} ah , ok, thanks	[18:08]
luciash	luciash still thinks much better would be smarty capture :)	[18:08]
xavi	mmmm, jonnyb, no output shown then jquery not prefilling that value xavi checking the source ah, hold on.... it smells like human error... he he, confirmed, it was human error. it works like a charm thanks again, master j(q)onny :-) enough for today for me	[18:10]
jonnyb	ok, bibi - well done :)	[18:12]
luciash	bye xavi	[18:13]
xavi	thks blues concert tonight! yay! :-) cheers	[18:13]
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RavenC	TW 6.1 - Default HomePage (wiki) ... has {GROUP(groups=Admins)} to start. Can I place two groups in that, and if so what would be the syntax? I tried {GROUP(groups=Admins, Registered)} but it didn't appear to like that.	[19:13]
ricks99	i belive the syntax is is Admins\|Registered. check docs http://doc.tiki.org/plugingroup	[19:13]
RavenC	thanks Rick, you are correct... I was looking at http://doc.tiki.org/Groups+Management RavenC gets lost in docs.tw.o REAL fast	[19:14]
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ricks99	@RavenC: join us for a doc re-org :-)	[19:16]
RavenC	:)	[19:16]
Bilal	hi everyone	[19:17]
RavenC	hi Bilal	[19:18]
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Bilal	RavenC: how are you doing? any tikiwiki experts in here?	[19:18]
gillesm	for what Bilal ?	[19:19]
RavenC	Bilal: Great here thanks. You? (Sadly, VERY from an expert here)	[19:19]
ricks99	Do you have a question?	[19:19]
RavenC	very FAR that is... lol	[19:20]
Bilal	I am using Tikiwiki 6.0 beta 3 - the links on the site of a page does not work unless the page is fully 100% loaded. While in general websites, and older tikiwiki versions we were able to click on a link even if the page is not fully loaded yet because of this it creates a lot of frustration, when we have to wait for the page to be loaded 100% and then we can click on any links on the page	[19:20]
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Bilal	any help, is there any configuration to remove this behavior? can we fix this?	[19:21]
ricks99	@Bilal first, I would upgrade to latest 6.1 (6.0b3 is old) also, which links? in-page links? menu items? etc?	[19:21]
Bilal	ricks99: specifically if there are tab links within a page, the ajax links, almost all links, the navigation and page links both ricks99: i will do the upgrade ricks99: i can give you url of the site if you want to have a look , its online	[19:22]
ricks99	that is because the <SCRIPT> elements have been moved to the bottom (last to load) on the page to improve overall performance you can turn off the tabs and use non-css non-php for the menu items	[19:23]
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jonnyb	also Bilal, try turning on minify for js and css - should help in admin->performance	[19:25]
ricks99	actually, minify js will make the issue worse. you'll have the scripts at the end AND have to de-code it	[19:26]
Bilal	ricks99: i don't want to turn off the tabs , they look amazing	[19:27]
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Bilal	all the ajax and stuff is amazing ricks99: i checked the source of the page and there are scripts at the end of the page	[19:27]
ricks99	thats the tradeoff. do you have other things (imports by ref, streaming vids, etc.) that are causing slow page loads?	[19:28]
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ricks99	yes the scripts are at the end of the page. therefore, they are not active (can't be clicked) until the page fully loads	[19:28]
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Bilal	ricks99: please check the site, i think after 6.0 version, the speed of TIKIWIKI has gone down significantly	[19:31]
lphuberdeau	I wouldn't say that is true overall, but some features/modules may perform less than others - what are you comparing to?	[19:37]
Bilal	the older versions of tikiwiki , i have a site at version 2.0 , which works much faster than version 6.0	[19:41]
AndroUser	Did you run metrics onboth sites to get real numbers?	[19:46]
lphuberdeau	it's very hard to compare those 2 versions as there were many changes	[19:47]
Bilal	okay	[19:50]
lphuberdeau	tiki did slow down a bit between 2 and 4, and then got faster but some features you use may still be suboptimal, it's always a work in progress	[19:50]
Bilal	may be i am not configuring it right and i will also check with my hosting i am running it on a shared hosting, may be thats the reason	[19:50]
lphuberdeau	make sure you have a bytecode cache such as xcache or apc it makes a huge difference on anything based on php	[19:50]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r32441 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD] Changed all the CSV parsers in grid.php to use the new ways tikiwiki: [MOD] Changed url for wiki plugin "sheet" to load at the server and remove any scripting for injections. We can now use sheet to open any accessible csv file or html :) pretty cool! tikiwiki: [FIX] A few size fixes in sheet html	[23:12]
	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r32442 10/trunk/lib/sheet/grid.php: [ADD] strip_tags to grid.php when loading a csv file	[23:17]
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