#tikiwiki 2011-02-14,Mon

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luciash	oh, interesting	[00:00]
jonnyb	have you tried it? playing with it now on http://alcns.net	[00:00]
luciash	actually very original... i don't think other mobile sites have it	[00:00]
jonnyb	it's looking like quite an interesting mix	[00:00]
luciash	not yet, i am waiting to have some stable version	[00:00]
jonnyb	spoil sport :)	[00:01]
luciash	can i try with iPod Safari ? alcns.net	[00:01]
jonnyb	go for it should do all iThings and 'droids only tried on iphone so far you can play with it in a normal browser too http://alcns.net/?mobile_mode=y	[00:01]
luciash	ah, tks heh, the old logo greets me :)	[00:02]
jonnyb	yay! how about a new one?	[00:05]
luciash	funny looks still a bit cluttered but far better than the old mobile view good job, jonnyb	[00:05]
jonnyb	the worry is it looks like 90% of the job (so 90% of the work left to do)	[00:06]
luciash	i wouldn't display the modules at all or on another slide-in view kinda module tab collecting them all on a slide left or right the column hide/show icons kinda don't work very well here	[00:07]
jonnyb	gone now? top-bar menu's borked again in fact all menus need work - tomorrow...	[00:08]
luciash	also Source \| History \| Slides \| 1 comment is not necessarily needed to be displayed as one-liner (broke in half) is it possible to make it separate views ? like many iPhone apps have on the bottom the tabs and you can switch to them ? it would mean position fixed on bottom and scrollable content above them or maybe use icons on them instead of text strings...	[00:10]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r32659 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [bp/r32656][FIX] Keep feature_wiki_mandatory_category preference from being set when the user is setting other preferences in the wiki admin panel (flaggedrev_approval_categories doesn't exist in 6x)	[00:12]
luciash	jonnyb: yes, after reload they are gone now - better :)	[00:13]
jonnyb	tweaking the profile as i go removing things that are bad	[00:13]
luciash	i like the main menu oops, now it got "frozen" on "loading" Community	[00:14]
jonnyb	yes, the jqm ajax gets lost after a few clicks - top of list for tomorrow	[00:15]
luciash	fine keep up the good work i don't like the +/- icons on modules though... the box around them somehow don't fit the rounded interface	[00:16]
jonnyb	was the default - still alpha 3 not worrying too much about that kind of thing - just managed to edit a page :)	[00:19]
luciash	great	[00:21]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32660 10/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php: [FIX] Notice	[01:03]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32661 10/trunk/templates/tiki-page_bar.tpl: [FIX] Typo missing ending ' tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r32662 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-page_bar.tpl: [FIX/bp 32661] Typo missing ending '	[01:10]
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luciash	hi any idea it is possible return JSON data from Tiki ? e.g. from trackers on request	[05:52]
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chibaguy	hi luciash chibaguy logging in briefly from day job. I recall LPH talking about JSON using Tiki's Web Services feature, but don't know the details (of course ;-) ). He'd be the guy to ask.	[06:18]
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Yonixxx	Morning !	[07:15]
changi	hi Yonixxx	[07:22]
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Yonixxx	Hey Changi working hard this morning. :) (no time for guitar !)	[07:45]
	By the way i'm trying to get a project where Facebook is really involved. I want to hook it seriously with Tiki Wiki and there is place for wide commits. Do you know a TW/Facebook pro able to provide dev services ?	[07:56]
philback	@Yonixxx, I have Bulgarian friends with a clue. Got money?	[07:57]
Yonixxx	i beleive this will possible. PM ?	[07:59]
philback	PM?	[08:04]
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coaboa	hello tikiverse	[10:15]
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cotton	Is it possible to set up a phone directory in Tiki 4.2?	[11:16]
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jonnyb	hi cotton - yes, have a look at http://doc.tiki.org/Trackers Why are you on 4.2? 6.1 is the latest (much better)	[11:20]
cotton	jonnyb: thanks I'll look at that. 4.2 due to company lagging behind the bleeding edge!	[11:22]
jonnyb	easily done!	[11:23]
coaboa	two weird things: the tiki org site search input field contains strange asci things when viewed with chrome and the captcha is broken @ info.tiki.org/Tiki+Service+Provider hi jonny	[11:23]
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coaboa	sorry broken with safari @ mac and ok captcha was a false alarm dont know what happens ;-) sometime waiting and trying later seams to be a solution ;-)	[11:26]
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Yonixxx	cotton: explore tracker	[11:52]
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jonnyb	hi coaboa	[11:56]
coaboa	yesterday we set up the development environment for my brother, finally	[11:59]
jonnyb	yay, using what? i recently seem to have switched from aptana to netbeans still missing a few things from aptana/eclipse but it's just so much quicker!	[12:00]
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jonnyb	Trebly: you about? i'm going to investigate that module parameters thing now (wish me luck!)	[12:02]
coaboa	yep	[12:03]
Trebly	<jonnyb> Hi, I was away but forgot to set my status "away". I you need something about, I, may be, have answer.	[12:14]
jonnyb	hi Trebly - class seems to work fine for me on a user module in the pagetop module zone...	[12:15]
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coaboa	hi Joern	[12:22]
JoernOtt	Hi Carsten was hältst Du von Keepass: http://keepass.info/ als Anwendung, um dort alle Kennwörter/Zugangsdaten etc zu speichern läuft auch unter Mac (mit Mono)	[12:24]
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elwood	Hi all	[12:29]
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coaboa	Joern: was ist denn mit clipperz? oder verwechsle ich da etwas	[12:32]
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Guest12791	I hope someone will help me... PluginIframe seems not working with IE8 / IE7 if I mix php and html in my php files.	[12:34]
JoernOtt	Carsten: PM	[12:34]
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elwood_aw	i'll beback !	[12:35]
JoernOtt	Guest12791: what are the error messages?	[12:38]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[13:29]
jonnyb	hi ricks99	[13:29]
chealer	polom hi ricks99 and jonnyb it seems we'll all see in Boston soon :-) TikiFestQuébec7 is over and was a good success	[13:29]
ricks99	rick might even be in BOS for the full week	[13:31]
chealer	just neeed to commit all the translations now :-) :-D ricks99: there was a compliment on the TikiFest logo :-)	[13:31]
ricks99	ricks99 will be available to sign copies of Tiki Essentials i'll take credit for updating it, but i did not do the original design	[13:31]
chealer	ricks99: I didn't know if the red color of the banner was related to the proximity of Valentine's day	[13:32]
ricks99	lol luicash has a special valentines day tiki logo	[13:32]
chealer	ricks99: hehe, Cyril who's here wanted his copy autographed :-) yeah I saw it	[13:32]
rworth	hey all, I've just become aware of Tiki Wiki via jonnyb and robertplummer. Wanted to say hi and introduce myself in case you ever have any jQuery UI questions	[13:34]
ricks99	fyi... i still get security certificate issues on *.tiki.o sites via https & IE	[13:35]
jonnyb	hi rworth - thanks, nice to have someone around who really knows it :)	[13:35]
rworth	also, I added Tiki Wiki to http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery#Open_Source_Projects:	[13:36]
jonnyb	rworth: ok, here's one that happens to be in front of me at the moment - is there a quick/easy/built-in way of getting cookies to remember ui widget settings (like tab.selected, or accordion.active)? (and thanks for the link)	[13:38]
rworth	nothing built-in, you'll need the cookie plugin, then manually save and restore your widget options	[13:39]
jonnyb	thought so - was hoping i'd missed something	[13:40]
rworth	I guess tabs does have a cookie option (which in turn depends on the cookie plugin) but that's going away in the next release we need to ensure the widget cores are as lean as possible, and there are so many different mechanisms people might use for persistence, doesn't make sense to build one in	[13:41]
jonnyb	ok, sounds fair (shame though, it's a pretty common requirement)	[13:44]
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RavenC	polom	[13:49]
ricks99	bolow	[13:52]
Yonixxx	wolob	[13:54]
RavenC	RavenC thinks it must be Monday :)	[13:55]
robertplummer	RavenC is correct....	[13:57]
ricks99	Happy Valentine's Day, from Tiki! http://info.tiki.org/display100	[13:58]
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Yonixxx	I hope everybody know what and why "Valentine's day" is the lovers day ! Yonixxx hear ppl googling !	[14:06]
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Trebly	<jonnyb> If you want I can send you the content of the page with xdebug. But the most important is to repeat the problem on another platform and in another whole context. There are many variables involved. The test is : 1- choose business.css 2- Set a text for "custom_center_column_header" 3- look at the new (fine) module admin and to the parameters of "custom_center_column_header" , there is a nobox=y 4- When you display the page firebug will show you that the class of the module is class="module box-<module name>" and the css show an inherit max-width of 180px. So your "custom_center_column_header" is displayed one one straight column. 5- let's go to the solution, as wtritten in module.tpl the class="module ...." come from the fact that module_params.class is empty. Let' change the parameters off the module to "nobox=y&class=<something with meaning>" I put for the moment a not defined "ccch" for test. then var_dump($module_param) from the beginning of execute_module till $smarty->clear_assign('module_params'); and... ...further in smarty_block.tikimodule.php set var_dump($module.params) more exactly to be economic :if ($name=='custom_center_column_header') {var_dump('smarty_block_tikimodule says after extract :'); var_dump($params); xdebug_print_function_stack('smarty_block_tikimodule call' ); } //###trebly:test And in module.tpl module_params.class which should be == to $params['class'] array of 'smarty_block_tikimodule.php is empty. You will somewhere that module.tpl don't get module_params.class if another variable is assigned before the clear it's OK Sorry for the length it's complicated.	[14:18]
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jonnyb	hi Trebly - you know custom_center_column_header has now gone in trunk? it's not a pref anymore, so you must be talking about an upgrade to a customised tiki	[14:28]
Trebly	<jonnyb> no I use the last updated (each day) of 7x trunk. The feature which allows a "custom_center_column_header" text still exist I imagine (I have not tested, just use the upgraded data of test site) <jonnyb> my test site data	[14:31]
jonnyb	also, did you see r 32600 - makes it so only modules embeded in the page (with the module plugin) get the width: 180 applied - should fix this particular one i think the "feature" custom_center_column_header (actually a preference) has been removed and replaced by a user module	[14:34]
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Trebly	<jonnyb> It's what I had seen. Into the admin module the custom_center_column_header becomes a module. By update of db it appear with parameters only nobox=y and I defined it in center (I remenber now one week ago). It's normal that if a class is not defined for the module it inherits as it was of the general max-with=180px for sided columns (let's see later if because it is in center it must have other class definition. Nevertheless the actual solution during development is to set good params for any module. I say that even you define params as nobox=y&class=cccb which is allowed I imagine the module.tpl get module_params.class empty which is used inside. I make a test I think that I have found. I come back in five minutes, I hope with it.	[14:51]
jonnyb	Trebly: check this out: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/ (it's a user module with a class set in the params and it works fine	[14:55]
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therion_	hey guys, got a question couldnt find any doc on this how can i include say, 3 blog posts from a blog in a wiki page?	[15:13]
lphuberdeau	there is a bloglist plugin	[15:14]
ricks99	could also use the MODULE plugin to add any of the "top blog xxx" modules	[15:16]
therion_	but does that display the content of the blog entry or just the title? like you can do with {ARTICLES(max="3")/} but with a blog	[15:16]
lphuberdeau	you should also be able to include an RSS feed	[15:17]
therion_	ill check the bloglist plugin	[15:18]
ricks99	i believe bloglist plugin shows the actual post see docs for details	[15:18]
therion_	ah yes seems like it can thx :)	[15:19]
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coreyj	Hi everyone! I just converted my site to tiki 6 and I am haveing trouble saving chages to wiki pages. Is this a bug or did I do something wrong?	[15:31]
lphuberdeau	permission denied?	[15:33]
coreyj	Does not say. I just get a blank page. No changes are being saved in the database.	[15:34]
ricks99	using SEFURL? make sure you renamed the .htaccess file	[15:35]
lphuberdeau	which version did you upgrade from?	[15:36]
coreyj	Upgrading from v5.3	[15:37]
lphuberdeau	try turning on error reporting so we get a little more details	[15:38]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32664 10/trunk/tiki-switch_lang.php: [FIX]i18n: when on url http://mysite.com, be able to switch page lang tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32665 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-switch_lang.php: [bp/r32664][FIX]i18n: when on url http://mysite.com, be able to switch page lang	[15:38]
coreyj	I am getting the following error : Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 24 bytes) in lib/core/WikiParser/PluginMatcher.php on line 34	[15:43]
lphuberdeau	is the page any large? 64M memory limit should do fine you might be using one of those rogue features eating up memory	[15:47]
coreyj	The page is not large but it has a call to listpages (to list six pages). If I create a new page, it seems to work fine.	[15:49]
lphuberdeau	how many pages are being listed?	[15:50]
coreyj	6 summary pages.	[15:50]
lphuberdeau	duh, read improperly would you mind providing me with a link to the site?	[15:51]
coreyj	what do you mean?	[15:51]
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lphuberdeau	I'd like to get an overview of what you are using to target the issue you seem to have a reasonable use case there	[15:52]
coreyj	The tiki6 page is at : http://www.geronguide.com/ggnew/Senior+Housing and the tiki5 page is : http://www.geronguide.com/gg/Senior+Housing	[15:54]
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lphuberdeau	could you paste the content of the page in http://pastebin.com/ ?	[16:02]
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codyg	hi all rick99... i got it! I figured out the tracker thing. it's wonderful.	[16:30]
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codyg	crud in tiki is not an intuitive process, imho. but you've got to love the feature. ;)	[16:33]
jonnyb	well done codyg - which particular flavour of crud? We have lots! :P	[16:36]
ricks99	kewl glad it works tiki == crud... hmm... not sure if that's the right message ;-)	[16:39]
eromneg	hi all	[16:39]
jonnyb	ricks99: an unfortunate acronym for create, read, update, delete hi eromneg	[16:40]
ricks99	i know.. just kidding	[16:40]
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eromneg	did you know that crud to a process engineer (a long time ago) used to mean Creek River Unidentified Deposit	[16:40]
jonnyb	ricks99: thought so (at least it wasn't three equals signs)	[16:41]
ricks99	lol	[16:41]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32667 10/trunk/ (lib/modules/modlib.php templates/tiki-admin_include_look.tpl): [MOD] modules: Rationalise the order of the module zones in admin	[16:42]
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coreyj	hello lphuberdeau. Here is the pastebin link to the home page which has the same problem. homepage does not have the call to listpages: http://pastebin.com/BTbNjBYk	[16:50]
lphuberdeau	that is a lot of divs	[16:50]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32669 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] modules: Move module select drop-down into popup dialog and deal with the consequences, tikiwiki: move old style edit form to it's own tiki tab, tabbify assigned modules sections, tikiwiki: make nobox=y module div structure consistent to fix lose of zone on edit, and various other small fixes.	[16:52]
lphuberdeau	it might be getting lost if they are not all matched properly try adding an extra closing one	[16:52]
coreyj	ok. Will check to make sure they are all matched.	[16:53]
codyg	does anyone know why wysiwyg editors for cms work so badly in chrome?	[17:04]
Trebly	<jonnyb> Sorry, it seems that I made in my tracks a confusion between $params which as similar elements (common decorations, nobox, flip) of the class (in smarty_tikiblock.tikimodule.php) and $module_params into module.tpl. The actual module.tpl sends always class="module ..." which inherit the max-width of class module 180px. So I made a little change into module.tpl which affects the parameters user module syntax : if a class is defined class=<myclass> the class set by module.tpl is "module_<myclass>" and if not defined we find class="module box-<module titlte>" this makes inherit the max-width of class module, which can't be accepted for any user module (particularly the a message in center top modules. Following this way what do you think about the fact to allow the user to define any class for his module ? To avoid that nobox=y&class=<myclass> don't make class=' <myclass ..." but limits the risks by class="Umodule_<myclass>" we could oblige by security that the name of the class should be with the pattern for example "Umodule_<myclass>" ?	[17:06]
jonnyb	Trebly: i just made a change to module.tpl (and other module files) which might also fix this - r32669 also, i wouldn't give tiki_p_admin_modules to untrusted users (or any other admin perm) codyg: i thought ckeditor seemed ok in chrome - not for you?	[17:07]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32670 10/trunk/tiki-register.php: [FIX]intertiki: fix slave tiki6+master tiki4 + confirmation email	[17:14]
codyg	yea, there isn't any cms editor that works for me in chrome, the biggest problem is selecting images and tables. it will work for basic, but not for editing	[17:16]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32671 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-register.php: [bp/r32670][FIX]intertiki: fix slave tiki6+master tiki4 + confirmation email	[17:16]
jonnyb	yes, some of that seems to be missing from webkit - image resize etc	[17:16]
codyg	ahhh i like chrome, but i do a lot of editing. so i'm firing up ie several times a day just to select tables and images. maybe an ot question.... is marc laporte related to leo laporte (the tech guy)?	[17:17]
lphuberdeau	no	[17:21]
codyg	now i know. ;)	[17:21]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32672 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] modules admin: Only set the execution time on the first div in a module	[17:30]
sylvieg	changi: what version in dev.tiki.org? found it	[17:35]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32673 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googlemap.tpl: [FIX] Zoom was not being updated on click tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32674 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googlemap.tpl: [bp/r32673][FIX] Zoom was not being updated on click	[17:39]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32675 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googlemap.php: [FIX] Google map field was not showing for users with no global tracker view perms because of wrong checking	[17:49]
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jonnyb	is autocomplete borken in trunk now? (possibly since jquery 1.5?)	[18:14]
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philback	hi gang	[18:23]
luciash	hi philback polom jonnyb	[18:32]
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fabricius	polom I've a question to file galleries -> site should be go online tonight and I need a file gallerie activated, but not in the tiki root	[18:41]
chealer	jonnyb: ah. it did seem very slow yesterday (and still doesn't give any completion today apparently) on my test localhost install	[18:43]
jonnyb	polom - 2 mins (on fone)	[18:44]
fabricius	in one of my server accounts I have ../_cms with a few folders and one of them is /_tikicms (respectively ../_cms/_tikicms) the domain http://example.com will be directed to ../_cms/_tikicms, wich is the tiki root a subdomain is directed this way: http://foo.example.com -> ../_cms when I create some folders for tiki-stored files, uploaded to the tiki-installation, like ../_cms/directory ../_cms/wikiattachements ... or just one for all ../_cms/files wich path I would have to tell my tiki in the admin panel? I am a bit stuck on that	[18:45]
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luciash	hi fabricius	[18:53]
fabricius	hi luciash	[18:53]
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luciash	path is relative to the tiki installation path i believe	[18:56]
lphuberdeau	absolute paths are good	[18:57]
luciash	fabricius: by those ".." (two dots) you mean the unix notation meaning "one directory up" ?	[18:57]
fabricius	ah ... not really - I just did mean, in that cas -SORRY - that there may be one ore more folders upwards, but _cms/_tikicms is the tikiroot and in _cms are certain grafics and logos I am not yet used enough to the unix shell, even as i already switched my personal os to linux aswell ... still not so much terminal use at the time I should not have used theses particular dots - sorry	[18:59]
luciash	np, i was just wondering :)	[19:03]
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fabricius	so /_cms is one up related to /_tikicms (/_cms/_tikicms) and I guess it would be a good idea to store the files there - > for safety - as not in the tiki root -> for easyness in case of a frech installt in /_tikicms fresh	[19:04]
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luciash	i think if it is redirected to domain.com the path can be simply wikiattachments/ etc. oh, if it goes one level up from tiki root, then ../wikiattachments/	[19:04]
fabricius	AHHH "../" one up in linux syntax then "foldername/" that makes sense	[19:05]
luciash	btw, path ./wikiattachments/ (with only one dot) == wikiattachments/ in unix	[19:06]
fabricius	I do not exactly understand "path ./wikiattachments/"?	[19:06]
luciash	./ means current dir, ../ means one level up dir	[19:07]
fabricius	written this way (without ") is the same as "../wikiattachments"? ah one dot: in tikiroot	[19:07]
luciash	yes	[19:08]
fabricius	two dots: one above whats saver	[19:08]
luciash	saver ?	[19:08]
fabricius	and safer sry	[19:08]
luciash	ah, of course out of the web server root is safer	[19:08]
fabricius	docu sais, that its recommended yes I would have though miself aswell, but docu confirms so youhelped me out - big hug to cz do you have some knowledge in tiki-css? trying to adjust the secondary secondary site menu	[19:08]
luciash	np :)	[19:11]
fabricius	I do not find, where to: change the color of its css text - it should have a different color than the css-menu of the top bar and to center it (mine is left and I would not get it centered)	[19:11]
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fabricius	and last but not least give it a background window	[19:12]
luciash	fabricius: what browser	[19:13]
fabricius	for the first couple of days, I have an ordinary html-table in the secondary custom menu	[19:13]
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fabricius	chromium and firefox and epiphany (ubuntu 10.10)	[19:13]
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luciash	in chromium use inspect element on right click it will tell you the classes and ids used on it	[19:14]
fabricius	I know ;-) ... never found the stuff but I have a guy, who will take some time on it - mustconcentrate on the launch this night	[19:14]
luciash	ok	[19:15]
fabricius	he will make that (or me later) in another perspective in the background Just if you had an idea straight away but thx	[19:15]
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luciash	straight away i would need to look at it ;)	[19:16]
fabricius	I just started learning css mid of january and already made a first theme (based on coelesce) you want to have a look? just the site I mean not in the meaning of work	[19:16]
luciash	yep :)	[19:18]
fabricius	it's http://x.papatour.eu - the "x." will is just for the time been is ... will be switched off guess you understand what I mean - will make a coffee to clear my brain a bit we think to go away from fixed width an use full width and for the start page two rows of articles (thanks to jonnyb , who opened my eyes to {DIV()} ) ah sry - columns - two columns of articles	[19:18]
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fabricius	so startpage only right modules but the other wikipages with two culomns of modules, tone left, one righ t what do you think luciash ?	[19:23]
morenisco	hi. I have upgraded tikiwiki from 5.3 to 6.1. Almost everything looks ok, but the images from the image gallieries are not available after the upgrade. Any idea about what do I need to look at, please?	[19:24]
fabricius	hi morenisco - sry no, but do you have any problems withyour database? a versions problem?	[19:24]
morenisco	hi fabricius, the database is working. I instructed the installer to upgrade the database data, but the database is working. In fact, the text and pages are there, just the images are not	[19:26]
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morenisco	the database version is the same. It is the same server and I haven't upgraded the MySQL server version	[19:26]
fabricius	hmm ok	[19:27]
ricks99	morenisco: did you check the db encoding?	[19:27]
fabricius	I just asked, because I have a versions problem in 6.1	[19:28]
morenisco	ricks99, it checks by default UTF-8	[19:28]
ricks99	did you verify that your db, all tables, and connection collation are all utf-8 and that the db/local.php file specifies utf-8, too? see release notes for full details. this is a known item when ugprading, if u store your images in the db	[19:28]
morenisco	ricks99, the new ~/db/local.php file says '$client_charset='utf8';', I didn't verify details, as the original db was in utf-8 and the new is as well,	[19:31]
ricks99	and you confirmed that 01that your db, all tables, and connection collation are all utf-8?	[19:32]
morenisco	ricks99, nop, I haven't confirmed it	[19:32]
luciash	fabricius: nice	[19:35]
morenisco	ricks99, I'll try the upgrade again, converting the database and tables to UTF-8. My original version was 5.3, then I would not hit the charset issue, but I'll try anyway	[19:36]
luciash	fabricius: i would keep fixedwidth fabricius: full width is not very readable on large screens morenisco: if nothing helps you an try move your images from db to filesystem using tiki	[19:36]
morenisco	luciash, ok, I'll try that as B plan, thanks :)	[19:38]
fabricius	luciash: thx itś just a starter and will be my first real public webproject	[19:41]
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fabricius	luciash: we are discussing that all the time - full width or fixed with ... the office guy always wants full and me and my css hacker tend to fixed with I have one, where I find the full width appropriate:	[19:48]
codyg	i agree, full width with wide boxes full of text is very hard to read on a lot of newer monitors.	[19:49]
fabricius	I made that last week: http://famnews.eu if you wanna look at it luciash just a test at the moment, but several people told me to continue as a project	[19:49]
morenisco	damn, I reinstalled tikiwiki and in fact I had 'latin1', and I tried to convert it to utf-8, but it didn't work. I reinstalled again, trying a second time in the last part of the upgrade to force converting it to utf-8, but it didn't work	[19:55]
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ricks99\|away	@morenisco: you can try converting the tables to utf-8 from myphpadmin instead of from tiki (or just keep it as latin1, and change ur db/local.php to match	[20:00]
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morenisco	ricks99, ok, thx, I'll try	[20:03]
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Siath	Afternoon folks	[20:14]
morenisco	ok, I converted the db to utf-8, I created an utf-8 db, imported the converted data, and same problem!	[20:14]
lphuberdeau	when you convert the table, mysql converts the data too the last step of the installer is meant to unmangle the data, which is quite a convoluted operation	[20:15]
morenisco	lphuberdeau, I think that I'll just change to use the images into a directory	[20:15]
lphuberdeau	images should not be affected as they are stored in blobs	[20:16]
ricks99	i dont understand the "imported the converted data"? when you converted the db to utf, the data should have been conreted as well duh... i see lphuberdeau already said that.	[20:16]
morenisco	ricks99, I converted the db from latin1 to utf-8. Then I created a db, I specified that it is utf-8. I imported the sql file containing the data that was converted to utf-8	[20:17]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32678 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] mobile: Better handling of menus	[20:18]
ricks99	why not simply use the converted db?	[20:18]
morenisco	ricks99, I'm using the converted db, but the images are not being displayed that's the issue	[20:19]
ricks99	your db is now utf-8 and all tables are utf-8?	[20:20]
Siath	I have a quick question, child of isn't creating child pages on my 6.1 version. Even Open page as structure isn't working, is there some switch somewhere I haven't turned on for this to work?	[20:20]
ricks99	@morenisco: try downloading 1 image and opening it seperately @Siath: the "child of" is known issue, fixed in 6.2 coming soon	[20:21]
Siath	Ah rgr thanks Open page as structure is part of that I take it.	[20:21]
morenisco	ricks99, ok, the image filename is in the wiki, and I'm able to download it. When trying to see it, I got the error "Error interpreting JPEG image file (Improper call to JPEG library in state 200)"	[20:22]
ricks99	not that im aware of. open page as structure works for me	[20:23]
Siath	Hrm, Ok welp, even with open page as structure on normal pages don't have any of the structure heading. ONly pages actualy in the structure have the nav menu. Or am I mis understanding what it means.	[20:24]
ricks99	yes, only pages in the strucutre will ahve the structure heading. that i as designed if the page is not in a structure, it cannot open witrh the structure nav bar	[20:25]
Siath	Ok thanks. Well, just have to do things manually until next release. Thanks, I thought I was doing something wrong. There wouldn't happen to be a patch or something for that would there?	[20:26]
ricks99	@morenisco: still sounds like db encoding issues. there's a whole series of steps and fiexes in the relaease notes	[20:26]
Siath	To hold people over until next release.	[20:27]
ricks99	you can get a preliminary 6.2 from the svn repository (proposals) branch.	[20:27]
Siath	Oh thanks.	[20:28]
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morenisco	ricks99, thanks for all the help. I think I'll try to get new galleries working in the filesystem. And the users will have to upload the images again!	[20:33]
lphuberdeau	hmmm... not able to drag new modules in trunk	[20:33]
luciash	morenisco: you should be able to migrate them to the filesystem from the image gals admin panel morenisco: so your users shouldn't be afected	[20:33]
morenisco	luciash, yeah, I got an error saying that a file was missing, and it didn't work	[20:34]
luciash	oh	[20:34]
ricks99	before u do that, i suggest going through all the encoding fix steps, as specified in the release notes there's a series of steps on how to fix and then verify the fix	[20:35]
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Siath	Please excuse me but can I get a link to that 6.2? I can't seem to find it.	[20:36]
ricks99	http://dev.tiki.org/Daily+Build theres a link to it, from the main tiki.org/download page	[20:37]
lphuberdeau	6.2 is not officially released yet	[20:38]
Siath	Thanks again	[20:38]
ricks99	pre-release only. ymmv	[20:38]
Siath	Well, if it fixes the child of I'll be happy Would that be future or proposed?	[20:38]
ricks99	proposals	[20:40]
Siath	Thanks again	[20:41]
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ricks99	no problem	[20:41]
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morenisco	I configured the file gallery to be in the filesystem. The default place for the file gallery is wiki/img/ . It has permissions 755 and owner www-data:www-data. The permissions has been setup by the setup.sh script, when trying to upload a file to the file gallery, I have the following issue: "Cannot write to this file:wiki/img/af5a8ca8c4ed6539f276c4a6fd3495ec" apparently the fs permissions are not ok. Do it need to be 777 on the wiki/img/ directory?	[20:47]
ricks99	the path is relative to your site install. you created a new directory "wiki" in the root of your Tiki installation? there is no TIKI_HOME / wiki directory by default (afaik)	[20:48]
lphuberdeau	default location would be files/ I believe	[20:50]
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morenisco	ricks99, nop, I haven't, that is what appeared by default in the configuration	[20:51]
ricks99	y, but ^^^ error msg says "wiki/img/..."	[20:51]
morenisco	lphuberdeau, I'll try creating a file/ dir	[20:51]
ricks99	if there's no such directory, thats why Tiki can't write to it	[20:51]
lphuberdeau	that might be for image uploads as attachments, which may not be file galleries (I don't know the state of that	[20:52]
ricks99	@morenisco: pls see docs http://doc.tiki.org/file+gallery+config and confirm that you're configuring the correct location	[20:53]
morenisco	ricks99, ok, thx, I'll review the documentation ricks99, ok, I'm able to upload images now, the path was wrong, thx what I saw is that the images are being stored with a different name in the fs than the original name	[20:54]
ricks99	yes. as designed	[20:56]
morenisco	the name in the fs is 5ada2ebb2c4d6a528c4404f01942c167 for the image ohh ok	[20:56]
ricks99	names are hased, for security	[20:57]
lphuberdeau	I don't really think it's about security	[20:57]
ricks99	o. any special reason then?	[20:57]
lphuberdeau	collision avoidance	[20:57]
ricks99	ah ricks99 wonders why they arent' hashed when using wiki images not* in the file gallery (img/wiki_up)?*	[20:58]
lphuberdeau	if it's for security, it's just obscurity	[20:58]
ricks99	didnt say it was "good" security...	[20:58]
lphuberdeau	ticks99, btw, I just added the up-to-date-ness to the indexing, that should allow to list pages that need translation in tiki7	[20:59]
ricks99	sweet	[21:00]
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