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[00:42] <lphuberdeau> you can rollback changes
[00:42] <lphuberdeau> you can use staging & approval to prevent changes from going live without approval
[00:43] <lphuberdeau> you can use permissions to restrict who can edit
[00:44] <Siath> Yeah, just wondering if there was anything out there that would allow you to accept some changes and reject others when compairing.
[00:44] <Siath> Thanks for answering :)
[00:44] <lphuberdeau> tiki7 also has flagged revisions that allow manual approval of revisions
[00:48] <Siath> Thanks.
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[01:20] <fabricius> polom
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[01:22] <fabricius> luciash: the site is ready now - just switched domain an hour ago => http://papatour.eu (we will stay fixed, as you recommended ;-) )
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[02:01] <Trebly> <everybody> Do it exist a project about viewing the content of a structure using the TOC as menu to display content of wiki pages with ajax ?
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[02:54] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Profile using Data Channel - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40452
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[04:12] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r32851 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] Improve contrast for event text in calendar week view for the darkroom theme
[04:18] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r32852 10/branches/proposals/6.x/styles/darkroom.css: [bp/r32851][FIX] Improve contrast for event text in calendar week view for the darkroom theme
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[05:45] <Kayin_> Can anyone assist me with a layout situation involving Tiki?
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[06:04] <chibaguy> polom
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[06:23] <Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3796 - - Wiki Cache makes part of the page wonky: it's ok when refreshed.  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3796
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[06:55] <chealer> is community on proposals/6.x or "accepted"?
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[08:25] <coaboa> goood morning tikiverse
[08:26] <philback> hi coaboa
[08:26] <coaboa> hi
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[09:14] <chibaguy> polomagain
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[09:20] <coaboa> hi
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[09:51] <coaboa> off: RE moloq: walking through the years of technical improovements: bought several copies of "Thin Lizzy : Life" (Tape, LP, CD), the books from J.R.R. Tolkien, all of the DVD's and now should I by the BluRay Edition again? Rafactoring vs. Supply Chain ;-)
[09:51] <coaboa> *buy
[09:53] <coaboa> "User Experience" should be a feature itself.
[09:56] <coaboa> just some thougth after usin a brand new 27" i7 iMac for several days: why the hell thes cut off a reliable package managend ;-)
[09:57] <coaboa> *g thes/they
[10:02] <chibaguy> coaboa: maybe music publishers could fight piracy, etc. by selling music with a subscription plan that assures the buyer a new copy whenever the media format changes.
[10:03] <chibaguy> So if you buy a BluRay of Thin Lizzy : Life, you would get the next-gen at no charge (and next-next-gen, etc.....)
[10:06] <coaboa> Would be great ;-) but I meant: transforming that to tiki means: Its worth nothing to try to sell Tapes vs. Bluray. -> Tiki should make clear cuts and drop whats after....
[10:06] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: How to make everyone can use sandbox - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40454
[10:07] <coaboa> LTS would be a good "cut marker"
[10:16] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: I want search box to be longer - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40455
[10:27] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: after upgrade to 6.1: slow respose opening wiki pages, slow img plugin - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40456
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[10:59] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Images resizing in the File Gallery - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40457
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[11:43] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32853 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.tabset.php: [ENH] mobile: tabs as a button controlgroup
[12:00] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r32854 10/trunk/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] Fivealive theme was missing its fixed-width div properties.
[12:03] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32855 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: [FIX] modules: Move #module-order into it's own little form as the old edit form now only is there when editing or assigning module from the drop-down menu.
[12:19] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r32856 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: unique identifier for each wikiplugin r call
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[12:48] <ricks99> polom y'all
[12:48] <jonnyb> hi ricks99 
[12:50] <ricks99> hiya jonnyb
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[13:19] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb, lphuberdeau: I manage to fix the problem I was having with the tests yesterday. I was running for a few weeks phpunit 3.5, something have changed in this version, because now running phpunit 3.4 everything seems to work
[13:19] <jonnyb> ok, good to know, thanks rodrigo_sampaio 
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[13:25] <lphuberdeau> ah, we'll probably have to fix tests to work under 3.5 someday
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[13:34] <ricks99> anyone ever use http://code.google.com/p/curved-corner/ to get border-radius elements in IE?
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[13:34] <RavenC> polom
[13:35] <lphuberdeau> used some jquery plugin once, mostly annoying
[13:35] <lphuberdeau> you get some flickering effect
[13:35] <ricks99> y, have tried that
[13:36] <ricks99> not pretty
[13:36] <lphuberdeau> IE9 supports border-radius
[13:36] <jonnyb> won't IE 9 do them properly?
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[13:37] <ricks99> y, but i need ie 7&6 support
[13:38] <lphuberdeau> 6 support? that's rude
[13:38] * RavenC just shuttered seeing the mention of ie6
[13:39] <ricks99> represents 11% of traffic
[13:39] <lphuberdeau> 2% down and it can be officially considered marginal?
[13:40] <lphuberdeau> I'm all for making IE6 user's experience miserable so they switch
[13:41] <ricks99> client does not want to alienate 11% of all visitors. thats a big chunk
[13:43] <RavenC> time to retire the NT servers .....  ;)
[13:43] * ricks99 still has a win95 pc at home... still chugging along just fine
[13:44] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32857 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-payment_outstanding.php: [FIX] Removing executable property
[13:44] <RavenC> hehehe... here at work, we still have 4 win2k comm servers in use...  I think they all have ie6.  Of course, they don't have net access so.....
[13:45] * RavenC Gettings Ricks a copy of windows 7 for xmas  ;)
[13:45] <ricks99> of course, i drive a 19 year old car with 275K miles, so there's no telling...
[13:45] <lphuberdeau> win7 on a machine that dates 1995, that's going to be pretty
[13:46] <lphuberdeau> 275K miles? I was impressed recently when I saw one at 300K km
[13:46] <RavenC> I have windows 7 running on a Pentium II.  It smokes compared to win2K that was on it previously
[13:46] <lphuberdeau> but again, winter is a bit harder on cars
[13:46] <RavenC> 275k ?  wow
[13:47] <ricks99> as long as it works...
[13:47] <lphuberdeau> ... and you don't have to drive too far from home
[13:48] <ricks99> ... and have a cell phone... just in case
[13:48] <RavenC> my 3 year lease is up in May, got it with the minimum 12k per year... the thing only has 7500 miles on it
[13:52] <RavenC> oh, fwiw, I went live with my TW6.1 Intranet (finally).  Major success!!  Thanks to all of you of course!
[13:56] <ricks99> congrats
[14:04] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32858 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [MOD] plugin edit: Expose help link (thanks marclaporte)
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[14:07] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r32859 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Another try at a fixed-width method that uses one fixed-width container div for most themes but allows exceptions for themes like Fivealive.
[14:08] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32860 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.escape.php: [MOD] smarty escape: Add unescape (rawurldecode) option
[14:11] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32861 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] modules admin: Make assigned modules rows double clickable, unescape params and add, as yet unused, doc link
[14:20] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32862 10/trunk/modules/ (13 files): [MOD] modules: Add documentation attribute to module with some (documentation)
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[14:26] <SDuensin> Morning.
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[14:40] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r32863 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [FIX]Get the latest version of the attachment in in a field of the same itemId, and not the first, so that replacing defective files with good ones solve issues. Thanks sylvieg
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[14:49] <jamsu> Hi, I can't access the "Editing & Plugins" page in the admin interface. access.log says error 500, which doesn't help me at all. Happens with no other admin page. Any idea what might cause this? It's an almost untouched new install.
[14:51] <jamsu> Especially weird: Firefox displays one bullet point (HTML sourcecode: 4 lines of whitespace with one <li> tag, that's it).
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[14:52] <RavenC> can you access it directly from the address bar with tiki-admin.php?page=textarea
[14:57] <ricks99> error 500 indicates server misconfig. check your mod_security rules and confirm that all tiki-admin.php are allowed
[15:06] <jamsu> RavenC: That's the only way I'm trying to access it. Is there another way, another URL, to get to the Editing & Plugins tab?
[15:07] <jamsu> ricks99: Yeah, read about that, too. But isn't it weird that this only happens for on specific GET-parameter and not for all admin modules? By the way, I'm not sure if I have access to mod_security, it's a new server with only PLESK, no direct shell access (as I had before). Have to get familiar with PLESK
[15:07] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32864 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-categories.php: [NEW]categories: ass a param to have the categ linking to a page with its name
[15:09] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32865 10/trunk/templates/tiki-listpages_content.tpl: [FIX] listpages: Fix odd/even cycle
[15:10] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32866 10/trunk/ (lib/prefs/mobile.php styles/mobile.css): [ENH] mobile: Styling for tables and a couple of typo fixes
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[15:31] <ricks99> woo hoo. rounded corners on ie via tiki htc file only :-)
[15:32] <SDuensin> Very cool.  Been using nifty corners myself.
[15:43] <sylvieg> ricks99: is the jquery to round boxes in IE is in now? or is there another solution?
[15:43] <ricks99> no jquery. a simple htc handler for ie
[15:44] <ricks99> handles ie 6+ and no effect to other browsers
[15:45] <ricks99> just need to add mime handler for htc file and add 1 line to css classes
[15:45] <sylvieg> is it in tiki?
[15:46] <ricks99> not by default
[15:47] <ricks99> but maybe we should.
[15:47] <ricks99> tiki can include gpl, yes?
[15:48] <luciash> not at all
[15:48] <ricks99> :(
[15:48] <sylvieg> I was ready to add something like http://plugins.jquery.com/project/corners - but if you have better...
[15:48] <ricks99> currently playing with: http://css3pie.com
[15:48] <luciash> only lgpl, bsd, mit and public domain or such
[15:49] <ricks99> it is dual licenesed, also apache 2.0 license
[15:49] <ricks99> maybe as a mod then
[15:49] <luciash> apache isn't compatible either
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[15:49] <luciash> they are too restrictive licenses
[15:50] <jonnyb> i thought apache was ok (sure i added something apache recently)
[15:51] <luciash> jonnyb: really ? hmm, maybe i mixed it up with something then...
[15:51] <ricks99> maybe just add it as a "how do i" on themes then, just not bundle with tiki
[15:51] <jonnyb> according to http://tiki.org/License
[15:51] <luciash> maybe AGPL
[15:52] <jonnyb> yes, AGPL is no good for us (kaltura is AGPL and we had to get the include files relicensed, it was dull...)
[15:52] <luciash> but as we're dropping IE6 support for Tiki7 i think it wouldn't make sense to include it in trunk
[15:52] <ricks99> but apache 2.0 is ok?
[15:52] <ricks99> works well on ie7, too
[15:52] <jonnyb> i think so - that page doesn't mention a version
[15:53] <luciash> ah
[15:53] <luciash> i also thought about removing the iepngfix from trunk
[15:53] <luciash> as IE7 does it natively (alpha transparency on PNGs)
[15:53] <ricks99> cool thing is, it doesn't require any changes to tiki. just 1 line in htaccess and a few files to include. so easy, even rick did it
[15:54] <luciash> hopefully it will be still valid code
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[16:27] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32867 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] mobile: Temporary pref to allow access to latest "Live Code" version of jqm (extra experimental but already found a couple of fixes)
[16:30] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32868 10/trunk/lib/ (setup/mobile.php smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php): [FIX] mobile: Switch off toolbars and auto_save for mobile for now
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[16:37] <TriPeds> hello
[16:38] <TriPeds> anyone?
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[16:38] <codyg> hi
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[16:55] <TriPeds> hello?
[16:55] <codyg> hi
[16:55] <TriPeds> do you know if you can post video using tikiWiki?
[16:56] <TriPeds> upload it i mean
[16:56] <codyg> what kind of video?
[16:57] <TriPeds> instructional video
[16:57] <TriPeds> its for a medical type wiki
[16:57] <codyg> what format?
[16:58] <TriPeds> .mov or .avi
[16:58] <TriPeds> flash even
[16:58] <codyg> i don't know even know what i don't know about tiki, but will try to upload a video.  No reason why it shouldn't work.
[16:58] <codyg> brb
[16:58] <TriPeds> ok
[16:58] <TriPeds> ty
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[17:06] <codyg> hmm, i'm getting a plugin execution pending approval thing, but if is sort out the permissions it should work.
[17:08] <luciash> codyg: if u r admin u should be able to approve
[17:09] <codyg> just found it
[17:09] <codyg> ;)
[17:09] <luciash> codyg: otherwise your group needs tiki_p_approve... something like that
[17:09] <luciash> ok
[17:09] <codyg> and there is that other thing I lost last week
[17:10] <TriPeds> ok
[17:10] <codyg> hmm... windows wants me to do a firefox plugin in my chrome browser.... lol
[17:11] <codyg> silly machines
[17:11] <TriPeds> lol
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[17:11] <codyg> did i say it was a .mwv file?
[17:12] <codyg> it's working on it
[17:13] <codyg> will likely have to restart browser.. ;(
[17:13] <codyg> let me fire up ie and see what i get
[17:18] <codyg> it works
[17:20] <codyg> can wiki page name change?
[17:32] <luciash> yes
[17:33] <codyg> good news
[17:34] <codyg> through phpmyadmin?
[17:34] <codyg> cause i can't find it in the ui
[17:35] <luciash> Rename button under every page
[17:37] <codyg> <<<< smaking herself... ouch
[17:38] <codyg> that one jumped up and bit me
[17:39] <codyg> luciash this am i read why tiki themes don't wow ... will html5 and css3 improve that situation?
[17:40] <codyg> it should make rendering a "header" way more sane
[17:41] <codyg> know i know i can work crud in tiki i'm wondering how i can make it look good
[17:41] <codyg> looks aren't everything of course
[17:42] <codyg> but getting the grid right is all good.
[17:42] <codyg> have you heard of 50 column grids?
[17:42] <codyg> anything is possible
[17:42] <codyg> lol
[17:43] <luciash> sure :)
[17:44] <luciash> sorry that i am not talkative much... must focus on setting up some server config now
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[17:46] <codyg> np luciash, some other time
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[18:00] <ricks99> @codyg: i agree, tiki needs more theme designers, with a creative eye
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[18:20] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32869 10/trunk/ (8 files in 8 dirs): [NEW] Initial integration with OpenLayers. Used for the user to change location from user preferences, new module adding markers for all geolocated objects rendered in the page (users only for now).
[18:22] <luciash> marclaporte1: any experience setting up bbb server behind firewal ? i use firehol
[18:26] <lphuberdeau> luciash, you might want to ask that one in the bbb channel
[18:30] <luciash> lphuberdeau: i did already, but there's just few people... idling
[18:31] <lphuberdeau> they also have a users mailing list I believe
[18:37] <luciash> yep
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[19:19] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32871 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-locator.php: [ENH] Shorter title
[19:28] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32872 10/trunk/ (lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js tiki-user_preferences.php): [MOD] Use same format as used in trackers
[19:41] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32873 10/trunk/templates/ (tracker_item_field_input.tpl tracker_item_field_value.tpl): [MOD] Using openlayers for tracker maps, leaving gmap when gmap is enabled and configured
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[20:17] <jonnyb> offnowbbl
[20:18] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32874 10/trunk/lib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[20:18] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [FIX] mobile: Fixes to links where page need to be loaded without ajax (for now)
[20:18] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: Allow the rel attribute in self_link and a couple of other small fixes
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[20:19] <chealer> polom
[20:53] <luciash> hi chealer
[20:54] <luciash> anybody using firehol here ?
[20:54] <chealer> hi luciash
[20:54] <chealer> congratulations for your promotion :-P
[20:54] <chealer> not me
[20:54] <luciash> thanks, which promotion ? qt ?
[20:54] <chealer> luciash: yes :-)
[20:56] <luciash> when i specify nat destination for specific port, does it matter that on the firewall runs apache on default port ?
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[20:57] <luciash> i need to redirect foo:81 to machine behind firewol, where apache runs on 81
[20:57] <luciash> firewall, sorry :)
[21:00] * luciash setting up BBB ;)
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[21:05] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: New user to Tikiwiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40465
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[21:56] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r32875 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_banning.tpl: [FIX] Admin Banning: broken rule dates (broken pass of time to html_select_date)
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[21:58] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r32876 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_banning.tpl: [bp/r32875][FIX] Admin Banning: broken rule dates (broken pass of time to html_select_date)
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[22:50] <boriscougar> do you know what is the cause for the alertbox (on profiles, admin-mode) that says "Error loading page" and after few attempts i can't access the site until i get a new ip address? 
[22:51] <boriscougar> !help
[22:51] <honeygirl> help [<plugin>] [<command>]
[22:51] <boriscougar> >help!
[22:51] <Sug4r> 'help' could be way of getting some useful (or not so useful but kind of funny) information from me. By me I mean Sug4r, the IRC bot. You can give me commands like >whatis foo to get some facts from my factoids database about foo , >list alias to get list of command aliases i understand, >help alias about to get some help about alias called about and its parameters or /msg Sug4r help (1 more message)
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[23:06] <luciash> boriscougar: no idea, r u behind firewall ?
[23:07] <boriscougar> well i guess no, at least not locally at my home, and on the server i'm not sure
[23:09] <luciash> boriscougar: ok, i only know when i was running Tiki once on my router, it failed to load profiles, but maybe it was another case
[23:09] <luciash> boriscougar: it must be something else for u
[23:38] <coaboa> gn
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