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[00:14] <Trebly> Information about code editors with JS files :  most of developers probably knows about this but I don't. 
[00:14] <Trebly> PSPAD was not unable to show JScript enhanced and provide help to write. The solution is : Even the file is *.js the embedded <script> statement is mandatory with PSPAD. After it is good.
[00:14] <Trebly> I have not found anything in docs about the automatic embedded code coming from *.js files. 
[00:14] <Trebly> Do you know any problem about this.
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[00:22] <lphuberdeau> some editors do it fine, some don't
[00:24] <lphuberdeau> however, most of the embedded code in tiki uses a custom smarty plugin, so there is no way around that
[00:25] <lphuberdeau> other than modifying the editor's syntax highlight rules, or live without it
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[00:44] <JustATest> hello anyone?
[00:44] <jonnyb> hello someone
[00:45] <JustATest> rooms
[00:45] <JustATest> irc commands
[00:46] <jonnyb> try !help
[00:47] <jonnyb> !help
[00:47] <honeygirl> help [<plugin>] [<command>]
[00:47] <Tiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tiki.org/TikiBot .
[00:47] <jonnyb> ok, that doesn't do much :P
[00:49] <jonnyb> try http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[00:58] <Trebly> <jonny><lphuberdeau> I have a PSPAD which works perfectly with smarty. I sent to jonny the cooking recipe by mail
[01:01] <Trebly> <jonnyb> I was talking about PSPAD which don't hold the *.js files. The reason is that is holds them if they begin by the embedded <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"> ... the whole lib code ... </script>
[01:01] <Trebly> even it is in js tit edits it as embedded js into html
[01:03] <jonnyb> hi Trebly, sorry, not familiar with pspad, some sort of editor i'm guessing - don't follow the other points either i'm afraid
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[01:08] <Trebly> <jonnyb> PSPad is a very good tool. Many features. 
[01:08] <Trebly> i had two "lonely" problems :
[01:08] <Trebly> 1- It had defintions of smarty syntax but it was not functionning
[01:08] <Trebly> 2- It was was not recognizing jscript in *.js (but into some embedded into old html
[01:08] <Trebly> I solved both and it is quite simple.
[01:09] <jonnyb> yay, nice! i've recently moved to using netbeans, also has smarty issues
[01:10] <Trebly> <jonnyb> I will try it and tell you if there are better features in Pspad or not
[01:11] <jonnyb> i'm about 80% happy with it, it's about as good as it get (for free!)
[01:13] <dcedilotte> Trebly: PSPAD is a really bad choice for an editor. If you want some really good editors, Nodepad++ comes to mind, so is Notepad2(if my memory is right), InType for it's support of textmate bundles is great, e-texteditor (it has an open source version too now, though you still require a license to use it but it's the best editor  on Windows). Aptana as stated on the CreateAnIDE page on dev.tiki.org works wonders too. Netbeans 
[01:13] <dcedilotte> is good too but I find it sluggish at times on my machine to I stay away from it. 
[01:14] <jonnyb> yes, i stopped waiting for aptana 3 to have proper php support so tried netbeans - much quicker!
[01:15] <luciash> nightly polom
[01:15] <luciash> :)
[01:15] <marclaporte> polom
[01:15] <jonnyb> hi luciash & all
[01:15] <dcedilotte> jonnyb, I agree, Netbeans is really great but as I stated, it sometimes becomes sluggish on my machine and I can't figure out why. Aptana runs perfectly and it run on JVM too. Weird. 
[01:15] <marclaporte> +1 Notepad++
[01:16] <jonnyb> hey, marclaporte - we got tiki mobile working on a blackberry in the pub earlier on - w00t!
[01:17] <luciash> +1 for Aptana / Eclipse and (g)vim of course ;) as they're crossplatform
[01:17] <luciash> i don't know Netbeans
[01:17] <luciash> jonnyb: w00t :)
[01:18] <dcedilotte> luciash, true about (g)vim I forgot to mention it. 
[01:19] * luciash installed his first BBB ! w00t :)
[01:19] * dcedilotte wonders what the 3rd B is in luciash's comment... :)
[01:19] <luciash> >whatis bbb
[01:19] <Sug4r> 'bbb' could be Big Blue Button
[01:20] * luciash wonders what dcedilotte thought with BB
[01:21] <dcedilotte> luciash, blackberry. Jonnyb was just talking about that and I thought it was related to that comment. 
[01:21] <luciash> aaah, sorry, just coincidence
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[01:21] <dcedilotte> luciash, no problem. 
[01:21] <luciash> when we're in the w00t mode ;)
[01:22] <luciash> jonnyb: and is your BlackBerry working ? :-p
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[01:23] <jonnyb> wasn't mine, seemed very poor compared to ios
[01:23] <luciash> ok, just kidding :)
[01:24] <luciash> (for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI )
[01:24] <jonnyb> i know, but it was some proper field testing :P
[01:25] <jonnyb> thanks luciash - very much enjoyed clip here
[01:27] <luciash> "let me try to boot it" ... "now it's crashed" :-p
[01:35] <jonnyb> me crashing now too - nn
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[01:58] <nicohelp> I could use a little help i am a brand new tiki wiki user and have been searching for answers but don't know the correct verbiage for the search lol
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[02:01] <nicohelp> If I knew what to search for I could read the guides on how to do it. On my mediawiki site I had a block within the article to the right and a table of contents after the introduction. I am looking to do something similiar in tiki wiki but can't figure out how
[02:01] <nicohelp> an example would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%26D  the box to the right and the table of contents
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[02:35] <luciash> nicohelp: for toc use {maketoc}
[02:35] <luciash> nicohelp: you need some !Headings and !!Headings around the page
[02:36] <nicohelp> yeah I got that now ty :) any word on the box to the right is that freetags or something?
[02:37] <luciash> to emulate that box i would proably use Trackers, but that's advanced stuff
[02:37] <luciash> you can do that manually with a table syntax in a box floated right
[02:39] <luciash> something like {DIV(float=right)}^{FANCYTABLE()}__Designer__|((Gary Gygax)) and ((Dave Arneson)){FANCYTABLE}^{DIV}
[02:40] <luciash> check the syntax on http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki+Syntax
[02:40] <luciash> for the wikiplugins see doc.tiki.org/PluginFancyTable and doc.tiki.org/PluginDiv or PluginBox
[02:41] <nicohelp> so ther may be a plug that emulates this behavior? I am reading the guide on trackers now that I know the name
[02:42] <luciash> i'd rather start with the basic wiki syntax and plugins... keep the trackers for later ;)
[02:46] <nicohelp> very nice looking at plugins now. You are of great help
[03:11] <nicohelp> is there a way to exclude a heading from the TOC
[03:13] <luciash> i don't think so, you have to use another markup
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[08:35] <coaboa> good morning
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[13:02] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32877 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: [FIX]SHARETHIS: replace with headerlib calls to avoid sometimes blank screen
[13:03] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32878 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: [bp/r32877][FIX]SHARETHIS: replace with headerlib calls to avoid sometimes blank screen
[13:08] <jonnyb> bbl
[13:09] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32879 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: notice
[13:10] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32880 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: [bp/r32879]notice
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[13:23] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32881 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/ (tikidate-php5.php tikilib.php): 
[13:23] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [bp/r31349]official comment:[FIX] tikidate: Patch up muddle between and
[13:23] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: (output) - both of which are effectivley unused anyway.Solves issue of dates
[13:23] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: appearing as DateTime::__construct(): Failed to parse time string (5) at
[13:23] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: position 0 (5): Unexpected character (thanks mheller) -> For me it is only
[13:23] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: notice
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[13:49] <ricks99> Anyone have an idea... I need to apply formatting to text in the Site Title..... tried foo <strong>bar</strong> but the tags are passed literally. also tried using {literal} but still no good. Is this possible?
[13:57] <changi> jonnyb: ping
[13:58] <changi> jonnyb: what to you prefer jqgrid or datatables ? 
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[14:18] <ricks99> No one doing customization in the Site Title area. :( See ^^^
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[14:30] <RavenC> polom all
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[15:08] <jonnyb> repolom all
[15:10] <jonnyb> changi: re-ping, don't understand the question (jqgrid or datatables)
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[17:04] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32882 10/third_party/jquery/jquery-ui/themes/base/images/ui-anim_basic_16x16.gif: [FIX] autocomplete: missing loading anim graphic from switch to jquery-ui r32685 et al
[17:08] <changi> jonnyb: if you have to choose between those two what do you prefer ?
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[17:14] <jonnyb> hi changi 
[17:15] <jonnyb> well, jqgrid doesn't exist yet and i don't know what the other one is :P
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[17:42] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32883 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [REM] feature_template_zoom: Remove unused pre Tiki 5 template zoom code
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[18:59] <changi> jonnyb: was talking about http://www.trirand.com/blog/ and http://www.datatables.net/
[18:59] <changi> jonnyb: two grid jquery plugin
[19:00] <jonnyb> oh right - there's a jquery-ui core one coming in the summer - should be good
[19:00] <jonnyb> http://wiki.jqueryui.com/Grid
[19:01] <changi> oh i saw that project.
[19:01] <changi> it will be based on jqgrid and datatables i think
[19:02] <jonnyb> it's an impressive team
[19:02] <jonnyb> Marc got robert and i invited to one of their meetings yesterday
[19:03] <jonnyb> datatables looks prettiest :P
[19:04] <jonnyb> but i don't see an edit mode example...
[19:05] <changi> it has one
[19:05] <changi> http://www.datatables.net/examples/api/editable.html
[19:07] <jonnyb> good stuff! (too excited by mobile & ajax at the moment to get more distracted now though)
[19:07] <changi> jonnyb: i understant. I was looking for that for a private project
[19:07] <changi> and my first need is to have editable tables
[19:08] <changi> looking at this two active project, i can not make a choice
[19:08] <changi> that's why i'm asking for your advice.
[19:09] <jonnyb> by gut instinct took me towards datatables (usually how i decide)
[19:10] <jonnyb> is this for a tiki thing? if so i'd try and use the one that looks most like the jquery-ui project api (as i hope to have it in for tiki 8 or 9)
[19:11] <changi> no, it's not for a tiki project, but a very similar architecture
[19:11] <changi> jquery + jquery-ui + smarty 3 
[19:12] <changi> and highcarts for charts 
[19:12] <radek82> how long till 6.2?
[19:12] <changi> s/highcarts/highcharts
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[19:38] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r32884 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): less is more: remove TikiLib::date_format2()
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[20:01] <fabricius> polom
[20:03] <fabricius> my daily question: dividing two {DIV()}s with the {SPLIT()} plugin, I need a vertical line between the two rows ... how can I getthat line done?
[20:03] <fabricius> sorry between the two columns
[20:04] <fabricius> as example: I have two articles on my startpage http://papatour.eu and need a vertical line between them
[20:08] <ricks99> can do it pretty easily w/ 2 custom css styles (but i personall prefer whitespace as the divider)...
[20:08] <ricks99> create a style with the bgcolor=xxxx of the color you want the dividing line..
[20:09] <ricks99> 2. assign that style as the custom css for the SPLIT table
[20:09] <ricks99> 3. create a css with background=#ffffff
[20:10] <ricks99> 4. enclose the article plugins in {DIV(class="....")}...{DIV} so they'll have white backgrounds...
[20:10] <ricks99> 5. in the SPLIT, use fixed sizes. create 3 columns. the middle colum will be the width of the line
[20:10] <ricks99> <eof>
[20:11] <fabricius> ah cool
[20:11] <fabricius> thx ricks
[20:11] <ricks99> np.
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[20:13] <xavi> polom
[20:13] <fabricius> moloq
[20:13] <xavi> how can I escape square brackets in smarty templates in tiki?
[20:13] <xavi> when used for R in wiki pages directly, they work as expected. I.e.:
[20:13] <xavi> a[1,]
[20:14] <xavi> but when used in wiki pages used as smarty templates through plugin trackerlist they become converted to external links...
[20:14] <xavi> and I need to avoid it
[20:14] <xavi> but I don't know how
[20:14] <ricks99> did you try:   a[[1,]
[20:14] <xavi> yes, I did :-)
[20:14] <jonnyb> hi xavi - um, it's probably html encoding happening - have a look (in 6) at how they get escaped in module parameters
[20:14] <xavi> but didn't work
[20:15] <ricks99> thought you would... :-)
[20:15] <ricks99> that's my only suggestion. sorry
[20:15] <xavi> hi ricks99 and jonnyb
[20:15] <xavi> np, thanks ricks99 for sharing it :-)
[20:15] <xavi> and thanks for tip, jonnyb, I'll have a look there
[20:16] <jonnyb> try a%5B1%2C%5D
[20:16] <jonnyb> which i got by putting escape("a[1,]") into my javascript console
[20:16] <jonnyb> (like firebug)
[20:18] <xavi> aha...
[20:18] <xavi> in that case of modules, the square brackets seem to be only after smarty variables: $variable[ix] ...
[20:19] <xavi> but I wonder if I can use $ as variable name in R... (not sure)
[20:19] <jonnyb> not the code - in a running tiki
[20:19] <xavi> I'll try first your other tip, jonnyb
[20:20] <xavi> r returns: Error: unexpected symbol in "a%5B1%2C"
[20:20] <xavi> bbl
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[20:38] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r32885 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[20:38] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: revert r32884 "less is more: remove TikiLib::date_format2()"
[20:38] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: oops
[20:43] <jonnyb> bad luck chealer - getting rid of old stuff is always hard (but well worth trying, bravo!)
[21:09] <chealer> xavi: why did you move the encoding errors with gzip issue out of regressions?
[21:10] <chealer> jonnyb: hehe, more like bad sight here - totally unable to read
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[22:21] <xavi> back
[22:21] <xavi> chealer, hi
[22:21] <xavi> I don't think so
[22:21] <xavi> afaik
[22:23] <xavi> oups, chealer, you are right, I moved that with the other point (by mistake)
[22:23] <xavi> sorry, reverting...
[22:24] <xavi> fixed
[22:24] <xavi> fixed the page, not the bug
[22:26] <chealer> xavi: no problem, thanks
[22:31] <xavi> thanks to you for fixing those issues (and reviewing the others)
[22:39] <xavi> g'night
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[22:45] <xavi> ricks99 and jonnyb (even if you are not connected right now): I seemed to have some cache issue before. using [[] worked for me right now in the smarty template
[22:45] <xavi> so a[[1,] worked in the template
[22:45] <xavi> sylvieg ^(fyi). solved
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