sylvieg: :-) -: sylvieg thinks that with the man power in this tikifest - we will do it !!!! sylvieg: but lph - if you want to have sweet drem - I have a depending from another tracker - how can I sort / filter the field without copying the value
if you can find out a query sorintg on an item list...
so perhpas it means we need an engine to 'compute' all this
or to sot on a computed field depending on n depth of fields
it means that a field comes with his 'cloud' fields
one field that is tricky - because of smarty - in fact - is the date field
and the 'empty ' date notion'emoty / no chnage is very tricky lphuberdeau: well, the computed field looks plain dangerous to me
eval is evil sylvieg: suppose we need some class about - thje field is empty - and how to set a empty field lphuberdeau: as for the sort/filter of depending trackers, I think the answer lies in unified search sylvieg: computed is conceptually good but mysql doen not follow
ok I change a field x that is used in field Y
do I change the unifeid search?
unified search relies on 'rela' values lphuberdeau: it relies on what you tell it to sylvieg: so each time I change a field I have to run a script that update other depending values?
we define a field as depending on - we need somethig that defines who depends on lphuberdeau: I don't know exactly what part you are talking about, but technically, you just need to use incremental update on what you modify ***: redflo1 has joined #tikiwiki
redflo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) sylvieg: I have a tracker company - I have a traker product - a product is from a company
I change the company name - I would like the product's company to have a name update
but I would like also to sort the product on company name lphuberdeau: that's a lookup time query, and should really be either a primary key lookup or indexed lookup, it should not be slow
big issue now is that because everything is in a single scope, there is no way to see what takes time in a profiler sylvieg: it can be the director of the company lphuberdeau: that should be easy to see/fix afterwards sylvieg: it can be be the wife of the director of the company.. lphuberdeau: worst case, the information should be cacheable sylvieg: time consuption - is because too many part in smarty
+ restrict field if 300 fields in the tracker
s/300/300000 lphuberdeau: well, some things are just bad ideas, really
what we need to attack after the refactoring bit is what leads trackers to need so many fields sylvieg: so question when you TRACKER an item- which field must be in? the one in the plugin? the one depending? what means depending?
.. ok if we focus ony on code duplication lphuberdeau: I don't know the tracker functionality in so much details, I really don't use tiki that much sylvieg: advice: only take 2 tracker product and company - and it will help ypui to understand a lot of problem
also I am +1 to delate user selector = should be the creator/modificator field - It takes to much time with mysql lphuberdeau: user selector probably has other purposes
the perf issue was resolved a while back, it used to crash dev.t.o sylvieg: sort on some fields that is a user creator
... it need to be a 'direct' field -: sylvieg happy because we havce a lot of ressource this week - and it is what is missing to tracker health lphuberdeau: well, maybe we need to disable sorting or other operations on some types of fields if it's really inefficent marclaporte: polom lphuberdeau: welcome back jonnyb: polom marclaporte
feeling any better? marclaporte: direct from bed
not much better
I don't remember having slept so much
Thanks to the magic of penicillin, I hope to meet up with you ASAP
The important things is that sylvieg, jonnyb and lphuberdeau are tackling the tracker revamp jonnyb: and you get better, of course... marclaporte: I am happy to see the discussions and commits, even if I am not active
:-) jonnyb: the journey isn't really suitable if you're feeling bad...
it wouldn't help much i think marclaporte: yeah, at the end of that day, I was really happy I took the decision to skip the 8-9 hour bus ride
1- get well 2- hop on bus/plane :-) jonnyb: greyhound don't seem to have worked out comfortable seat technology (let alone food, wifi etc) marclaporte: ok jonnyb: hope so, we're a bit rudderless without you :P
but can manage! ***: dabright has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) jonnyb: found a great bar last night marclaporte: leadership will emerge! ***: redflo1 has left jonnyb: Yay! Nelson and Pascal arrive at the TikiHouse - the 'fest gathers pace marclaporte: :-) CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33366 10/trunk/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [MOD] Other batch of refactorings ***: Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie|sleeping -: marclaporte cheers lphuberdeau marclaporte: as he takes on the beast.... ***: dabright has joined #tikiwiki
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ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy chibaguy: polom chealer: hello chibaguy lphuberdeau: chibaguy, good to know you're with us and safe chealer: did you feel the earthquake in Chiba? chibaguy: hi chealer
yes, it was strong in Tokyo and Chiba also. No damage at our house, but things were thrown off shelves, some dishes broken, etc.
Transportation was stopped Friday night, so I stayed at my office until Saturday. And today (Monday) I didn't go to work, due to transportation uncertainty. chealer: ouch chibaguy: Maybe we will have rotating power cuts if the electric company doesn't have enough capacity due to the nuclear power plant problems. -: chealer hasn't been following the news chibaguy: We've been watching/listening to http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv chealer: ah, so that was a major plant :-| lphuberdeau: as far as what I read and the images I saw, it looks pretty terrifying chealer: it's quite worrying to hear about nuclear accidents chibaguy: yes, the govt says there is no need to worry, but of course they would say that. lphuberdeau: yeah, over 1000 the normal radiation should be something to worry about
how far are you from those? chibaguy: a couple hundred kilometers lphuberdeau: that should be safe enough chibaguy: yes, also the prevailing wind is either eastward, out to sea, or westward, toward the asian mainland.
usually eastward lphuberdeau: the earth gave a good shot at nuking japan out of existance, good thing it still holds together chealer: chibaguy: I suppose you must be worried. I wish you'll go back to normal life and be reassured soon :-| -: chealer heads to bed
lphuberdeau can't really imagine gary being worried or nervous ***: chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) chibaguy: :-)
my wife worries enough for both of us. ;-) lphuberdeau: I will be heading off to sleep too... plenty of work to get done tomorrow chibaguy: thanks for your hard work, lphuberdeau and all you tikifesters. :-) ***: Tiki|bot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
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Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki Yonixxx: morning and sunshine good people ! luciash: polom Yonixxx: Hi Lu … <- special for u
:) luciash: yo Yonixxx :)
chibaguy: hi, nice to c u back Yonixxx: How you are doing ? (we have some kinds of high heartbeating with Xavi and chibaguy) -: luciash was watching the same ustream channel luciash: Yonixxx: all is fine here... yep, i have read about Xavi's story
Yonixxx: hopefully same for you Yonixxx: pshhiiii… and i recall all the Scfi book i read about a 2000 millenium in harmony, peace and spiritual stuff. I think human kind have to go on for another 100/200 years more. :) -: Yonixxx entering in it's gonna be a good day mood Yonixxx: cu luciash: cu Yonixxx ***: Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)
Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki Yonixxx: Back {} Now that i think of it they were also book talking about nuclear disaster. ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki
ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte Yonixxx: plomo, does someone knows if there is a way to get ride of the "Pending status" ? (i need open/close only). As i need a datestamp condition (turn item status to close after a month) it is best to use the actual status field than to build a new "status field". luciash: perhaps in tracker edit ? Yonixxx: i check there. i didn't see anything about it.
In the meantime i went to weird problem… I have 2 horz menu, 42 if $user == admin only else menu 43. It works perfect everywhere but on articles (any page). I didn't recall anything about menu filtering and i can't figure what is wrong.
supressing the 2/menu condition doesn't help btw… really strange like a "feature_articles = no menu" on tw 6.2 updated yesterday ***: GillesM has joined #tikiwiki -: Yonixxx starting to get really upset
marclaporte thinks of Bruce Banner Yonixxx: the tw6.2 i'm fighting with is totally green :D
no matter os, navigator, theme or language i can't get the css horz menu on articles pages (any of them) on a tw6.2 updated a few minutes ago (tpl where not customized).
is there a new feature filtering header menu ? luciash: i don't think so ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Yonixxx: this IS nuts ! I drop it for now. ***: kiilo has quit IRC (Quit: leaving ...)
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RickDroid hopes everyone wakes up before I get to Boston... ***: JoernOtt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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hopefully pushing from the gate won. see you in a bit ***: RickDroid has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) jonnyb: lphuberdeau and coaboa are awake, jonnyb is working on it... -: sylvieg going to the tikihouse ***: dcedilotte has joined #tikiwiki
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TikiFestBoston7 is about to start! jonnyb: hi chealer - we've started already!
the 10 o'clock meeting was at 9:00 (not really!) ***: robertplummer has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: polom robertplummer robertplummer: polom jonnyb
polom lphuberdeau
lphuberdeau: I'm working on a custom project in Tiki where I need to list data from a tracker in a custom way, I'm using sql, and I need to list the data like a grid, but it isn't structured that way in sql. lphuberdeau: polom robertplummer: I have been re-ordering the data in an array, and it worked well, but now not so much.
This is in 6.x mind you.
I have it working, I just wanted to know if there was a better way, what do you think? chealer: oh no. what timezone is the 10 o'clock meeting in? I may be able to have made it standard time :-) jonnyb: it's in upstairs timezone chealer
also we stole your milk! :D
rebooting - brb ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb)
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we're going to try and do some bbb for the 10 o'clock meeting - just trying to gather the right toys for it (no proper mic, so sound may be worse than usual) CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33371 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-view_tracker_item.php): [MOD] Hooking the handlers in view item and removing the duplicate code robertplummer: jonnyb, slacker
Hey all, have you guys had a chance to checkout the new codemirror plugin?
This week I'm pushing my schedule to the limit, going to try to get as many revisions in as possible before 6.x jonnyb: doing the meeting now - hopefully we'll be on bbb shortly ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb)
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10 o'clock meeting on http://tiki.org/live
One of the main items that will be tackled in this TIki fest is the trackers code
... refactoring tracker code - each field in each handler
so this will be one of the main activity in the Tikifest
Next topic...
Tiki Webinars - there is a plan to conduct webinars using tiki.org/live about various Tiki topics, e.g. introduction to new features. These will start summer after BigBlueButton 0.8 which has archiving of weinars will be ready.
Looking for people to present many topics.
Next topic...
Demos during this tiki fest: Jonny: Theme generator, Jquery Mobile,
Nelson: E-commerce
maybe others
Next topic...
Translations... there needs to be a discussion on this. Rodrigo and Xavi will lead this ((xavi is off line right now but we'll set a time to have this discussion during the week)
More discussions on some isues of tracker going on here...
Next topic... LTD docs ... Sylvie has just left to the airport to pick up Rick, whc will be leading LTD docs during the TIki fest
s/LTD/LTS
LTS docs, I meant of course (for 6.x)
Other things happening: general Tiki 6 bugs...
Meeting up with Jquery team on Wed
2111 project intro by Brian
ok, 10 o'clock meeting is over people are breaking up into individual discussions
Also, we will need to come to a conclusion whether to kill Image Galleries with effect Tiki 7.,
Branching for TIki 7 will probably happen a little later rather than earlier (but still within expected timeframe), after teh tracker refactor work is more stable. ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki
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ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy marclaporte: nkoth : there needs to be a migrating script for image galleries to file galleries nkoth: marclaporte: I see that is the blocker I suppose chealer: everyone has arrived to the TikiFest (but marclaporte) :-) ricks99: woo hoo. if rick is here, u know its a party :-) ***: kiilo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
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ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki lphuberdeau: jonnyb: there is more about the Mysterious field type in the item file jonnyb: aha... M for Mysterious
btw, the loudness has gone downstairs ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) lphuberdeau: ah, good ***: Sp4rKy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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bbb.evocatio kicks me out - unusable jonnyb: polom from the fest luciash luciash: tiki.bbb.org is off
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hi jonnyb daniam: anyone on bbb? ricks99: live.tiki.org? daniam: if yes: url pls luciash: where should we go for bbb ?
live.tiki.org is set up with bbb.evocatio... which always kicks me out of bbb after several seconds ricks99: @jonnyb: which url for bbb? CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r33372 10/trunk/tiki-register.php: [FIX] Invalid user error when registering email like "onstoppel@whatever.com" since "onstop" is filtered by default. nkoth: http://tiki.org/live ?
it's only streaming during meetings anyway I think
so we keep bandwidth for other times lphuberdeau: network is reliable, but a bit slow luciash: nkoth: it redirects to http://bbb.evocatio.net/client/BigBlueButton.html which kicks me out after few seconds with messgae Logged Out [OK] The connection to the server has been closed in a popup dialog
which is unusable for that reason
can we use another bbb server ? lphuberdeau: might want to contact etienne about the issue, I'm sure he'd like to know about it luciash: i was trying to re-use http://tiki.bigbluebutton.org/ but that one seems to be off too CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33373 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-view_tracker_item.php): [MOD] Using handlers to lookup the data from the saved item as a default value when no request data is provided
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Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33377 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] trackers: Update empty multilingual values correctly instead of inserting duplicates (and failing) ***: JoernOtt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33378 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX] Can't have two icons. Using the one that currently displays. Trebly: <jonnyb> Hi, I have been without internet during 10 days. I have a problem with SVN and search the solution : Because I work slowly on many projects and enhancements, I have a lot of merged which are in fact conflicts. This generates a lot of work when automatic merge is set for all files, SVN conflicts detected are not frequent. My modification are generally not compatible with the merge...
...standard function particularly with css and tpl (as everybody can know) and some others php or js. So I think to write a "cmd" as parameter of svn : merge-tool-cmd but I don't know how to call the default merge. Probably you or somebody else uses solutions for these problems. jonnyb: hi trebly - i generally use aptana which contains the collabnet svn merge tools (for eclipse) ***: Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki Trebly: <jonnyb> Thank's. I will install. jonnyb: good luck - conflicts are horrible Trebly: <jonnyb> The main confilct is because I have developped a rather different tiki.tpl (full css tables) and changed a lot into the css (quicker and smaller). And before everything is ready I can't commit on my branch. In another way my computer needs near 140s of CPU to generate a page, so I am installing a server which will be accessible with a dyndns, so anybody will be able to look at my...
...development before 1- use the branch 2- allow or encourage me to commit into main.
The other problematic project is calendars there are a lot of little changes which crashes my work ... CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33379 10/trunk/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [FIX] trackers: Cookietab fixes (remove setcookie and smarty stuff - all you need now is to set the global $cookietab before handing over to smarty display) ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb)
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kiilo has joined #tikiwiki luciash: marclaporte: could u ask fred/anyone if we could still use tiki.bigbluebutton.org for BBB meeting ? etienne didn't respond so far ricks99: ping changi Trebly: <marclaporte> Did you receive my mail ? what do we do ? ***: kiilo has quit IRC (Quit: leaving ...)
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Sp4rKy_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) marclaporte: Trebly : this is a France decision
you guys have to self-organize Trebly: <marclaporte> OK, but who is a tiki admin in France ? In my idea, may I am wrong, but an admin is supposed to be aware of strategy and developments rhythm and contents, show and sometimes limit the path for coherency. marclaporte: you don't need an admin to organize a TikiFest
but pkdille is an admin CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33380 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-view_tracker_item.php): [MOD] Move the category field to a handler Trebly: <marclaporte> thanks. I will discuss with pkdille. Nevertheless I launch the ESIEE meeting (tikifest).
What are the means to "send" information to French and more Parisians tiki developers and users ? CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r33381 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/resource.wiki.php: rollback of 31813 because it wasn't made optional and was breaking a lot of use cases... there was no activity done about fixing the issue (e.g. making it an option) as promised for more than 2 months
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33382 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-view_tracker.php): [FIX] Categories handler to work with the insert form
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