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[01:19] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [01:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [01:20] polom [01:37] *** Tiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki [01:50] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [01:54] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [01:54] *** goj|ghost is now known as goj [02:02] *** woodzy has joined #tikiwiki [02:04] *** rtdos has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:08] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [02:18] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:19] *** x3n_ has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) [02:23] *** x3n_ has joined #tikiwiki [02:29] *** x3n_ has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) [02:45] *** woodzy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:48] *** xen216 has joined #tikiwiki [03:02] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [03:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [03:26] New Forum Posts: External login - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41254 [03:26] New Forum Posts: Errors converting between wiziwig editor and tikisyntax editor - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41249 [03:26] New Forum Posts: Modules inside a div - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41242 [03:37] New Forum Posts: External login - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41254 [03:37] New Forum Posts: Errors converting between wiziwig editor and tikisyntax editor - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41249 [03:37] New Forum Posts: Modules inside a div - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41242 [03:44] *** rtdos has joined #tikiwiki [03:44] *** coaboa|afk has joined #tikiwiki [03:44] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:48] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [03:48] *** chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [03:48] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [04:22] Hello tiki friends. I'm looking for help deciding which version of tiki I should be using. [04:23] I've been working with tiki for a month or so, configuring it for use by a developing organization. mostly configuring it, but also I've written a few custom wiki plugins, theme, and code chunks here and there. [04:25] I'm wondering if I should be using a development branch and how stable or not it may be. [04:27] I have been using tiki 6.X. not entirely sure I understand what version 7 is about... like is that going to become what 6.x has been as 6.x becomes the LTS version? [04:30] I want to become a tiki developer. [04:33] what's the ceremony for joining the community and getting SVN commit access like? I've read and agree to the 3 rules. [04:36] I'm going to be working with tiki for a while, adding new features to meet the needs of the organization I'm developing for and would love to be involved in contributing applicable features and bug fixes to the core tiki. [04:45] I don't need SVN commit access... just looking for guidance on how to most quickly integrate with the tiki community :) [04:52] :-) [04:53] well, good first step is what you are doing now.... [04:54] so about 6.x and 7.x -> 7.x is simply the next version [04:54] and after that comes 8.x [04:54] new version every 6 months [04:55] and versions live generally for about 7 months [04:55] expect every third version, which lives 19 months [04:56] this duality is to accomodate people that want innovation & features vs people that want stability (less bugs and less moving parts) [04:56] xen216 : what is your SourceForge username? [04:57] xen216 is my sourceforge username [04:57] and my name is Xen :) [04:57] about which version you should use: depends on your timeline [04:58] hi Xen, my name is Marc. Nice to e-meet you :-) [04:58] well, the organisation itself is under development and this tiki is a core part in facilitating and defining the structure of the organisation. [04:58] nice to meet you as well [04:59] New features go to trunk (which is slated to be 8.x released in October) [04:59] so instability wouldn't be such a bad thing right now, I'd see problems and fix and/or report them I suppose. as the users grow and the site is used more, stability will become more important. [05:00] Right now, 7x is in Beta, and is stabiliziling [05:01] From now, until 7.1, commits on 7.x branch are semi-automgically merged to trunk [05:01] ok, I did download the latest 7x beta today. didn't install it yet [05:01] so it's a nice time to work on 7.x, if you can tolerate some bugs, (and especially if you can fix) and it will become a nice 7.0 with 1-3 weeks [05:01] then, 7.1 about a month after that [05:02] Are you experienced with SVN? [05:02] that sounds like a good match at least for one tiki installation (I'm going to be working with many) [05:03] I've done mostly SVN checkouts and haven't done SVN commits since college so been a while. [05:03] Pretty much all the energy is on 7.x so it's ideal place to be. [05:03] ok. that sounds great. [05:03] and you can have trunk running to commit the new feature, and themes, etc... [05:05] A few important pages: http://tiki.org/Model [05:05] http://dev.tiki.org/Version+lifecycle [05:07] I've read those. [05:07] Is the project in English? [05:07] yes [05:08] welcome to the community: https://sourceforge.net/users/xen216 :-) [05:08] yay! :) thanks! [05:09] https://dev.tiki.org/Get+code#Using_7.x_branch_from_SVN [05:10] The main places to ask questions and share your ideas is here (IRC), and at https://dev.tiki.org/Dev+Mailing+List [05:10] alright, I'm going to install that now. [05:10] Have you worked on other FOSS projects? [05:10] ok. I'm on the mailing list. [05:12] I've contributed lots of bug fixes to various projects but haven't been an active developer with a project. [05:15] well, let's break that trend :-) [05:15] so there's stuff for me to learn. :) I pretty much only use FOSS. I've been developing a couple projects that I expect to opensource someday into an active project. need to learn how FOSS dev so here I am. woohoo! [05:15] what are the new features that you have added? (or intend to add?) [05:16] well, I've got a perspective wiki plugin that conditionally displays stuff based on the current perspective. it was modeled after the groups plugin. not sure if that one exists in SVN somewhere [05:16] *** Jyhem has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:16] I'm actually working a lot with workspaces and perspectives. [05:17] cool. I, for one, am interested to use. I confirm that it doesn't exist yet [05:18] architect of workspaces/perspectives is lphuberdeau in case you have questions [05:18] also a messagelist plugin, which displays a list of messages that match certain criteria. It was made to create an alert system; to show high priority, broadcasted messages on users' homepage. [05:19] *** Jyhem has joined #tikiwiki [05:20] why will you manage several Tikis? [05:20] using the group webmail feature, I didn't find a way to categorize a configured webmail. I wanted to dig to see if that exists and code that if not. [05:21] groupmail: ask jonnybradley (or on tiki-devel and you'll catch him) [05:21] yes. many tikis for sure. that's actually a big topic I want to talk about at somepoint. I expect to be using intertiki and could potentially have hundreds to 1000s of tiki installations to manage. [05:22] oh [05:22] that is a lot :-) [05:22] those numbers are being very optimistic :) but starting with 20 as a test case. [05:22] Ok, so you need to take a look at: http://doc.tiki.org/TRIM [05:23] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:23] I saw that. and then the other alternative as well. it seems that TRIM will work great if changes are all in SVN, is that correct? [05:23] yup [05:24] like if I were to make custom changes that weren't general or applicable enough to be useful to tiki overall, could I still use TRIM? [05:24] and it works even better if you can make the changes general purpose and upstream [05:24] yes, you could [05:24] ok. [05:24] TRIM is just a wrapper for SVN so SVN can manage merges [05:25] There are lots of ways to customize Tiki without changing the code. [05:25] And if some are missing, we can work together to add them [05:26] awesome! so far I have really enjoyed working with Tiki. I like how it's designed. [05:26] super! [05:26] Did you look at profiles yet? [05:27] yes. I tried some out. and much of what I'm doing is creating a custom profile, that I expected I could export and then import into a fresh tiki install [05:28] Tiki7 has a start of this: http://profiles.tiki.org/Save+current+configuration+as+a+profile [05:28] well, create a profile since there is no profile export [05:28] oh, very cool [05:28] since you have many Tikis to manage, you should know that you can apply profiles via TRIM [05:28] that's handy [05:29] yup, especially if you have hundreds of Tikis to manage :-) [05:30] I have something in the pipeline that may be relevant to you (planned for Tiki8) [05:30] So my general feeling is that Tiki is quite good for hosting companies / wiki farms: http://tiki.org/Hosting+company [05:31] might as well talk about it now, I'm setting up a fresh server and each tiki install will be in it's own system/cpanel account. and I'm wondering, if the code for the installs is mostly the same, is there someway to share all the code rather than having multiple copies? If I recall TRIMs alternative addressed that with symlinks [05:32] why do you want to share the code? [05:33] umm, save space? maybe that's not such a big deal. and if I need to make a change to all of them, I'd commit it to SVN, then update with TRIM. [05:34] The problem with sharing code is that you lose flexibility [05:34] Depends on the use case. If you are really sure that each project will have the same code base, that can be OK [05:34] But I prefer the flexibility of upgrading sites progressively [05:35] yeah, I can see that. [05:36] With TRIM, if you need to spin off a site, you just do that [05:36] be it because the customer wants to move to different hosting, or because of performance reasons [05:36] you can easily move things around [05:37] right. I guess if disk space is all that's lost, then that's well worth the trade considering that TRIM can apply a change to all of them. [05:37] Disk space usually won't be the issue, but the number of files could be [05:38] also, if you have a security issue, each Tiki is self contained with TRIM. So the attack can't easily spread. [05:39] Tiki is good for hosting companies/wiki farms for many reasons, including because it's easy to upgrade because of all-in-one model. But one weakness is that because there are so many features in Tiki, admins can get lost throughout the 1200+ prefs in the admin panel. [05:39] that's a requirement, each tiki to be contained and in it's own system account. [05:40] I've been swimming in the prefs... I really like the pref search. :) [05:40] hehe [05:40] haven't enabled all the features yet, just going thru them one at a time. [05:40] So here is the idea for Tiki8: http://dev.tiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences#Custom_admin_panels [05:41] So you could restrict which of the 1200 prefs are available [05:41] very nice [05:41] A bit like other systems have a list of accepted modules that they will support/host [05:42] I think this is the last important piece for Tiki Farm to fly :-) [05:42] oh, that reminds me of a feature I thought about adding. I found myself manually editing some of the stock wiki plugins to make them require validation. I was thinking that there could be ability to set preferences for which plugins require validation or not. (in addition to it's default setting set in the wiki plugin's file) [05:43] so you want more plugins to require validation? [05:44] some of them, I wanted to enable but didn't want all users to be able to use them without validation so I manually edited the plugins file and made it require validation, didn't see another way. [05:44] validation --> approval [05:45] OK, I see [05:45] as of now, we only add the approval flag if it's potentially unsafe [05:46] in my application, it was considered unsafe for information disclosure. [05:46] well, then, perhaps we missed some. security a@t tiki.org is the place to report these [05:48] about "each tiki install will be in it's own system/cpanel account." -> what software will you use as the control panel? what else will you manage? email accounts? [05:48] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [05:49] well, it was mostly specific to what I was doing with it and not so much a core or general security issue. for this project, I'm dealing heavily with separated groups, workspaces, and perspectives. [05:49] * marclaporte wonders if there should be permissions for plugins.... [05:52] WHM and cpanel are the control panels. there will be some email accounts, email forwards, and account holders may have some web space also. there is a hosting aspect to this. I was thinking how to make it user friendly in a way that users of each tiki installation have their hosting along side there tiki in a way that protects them from breaking the tiki installation. [05:53] did you consider other options, such as ISPconfig? [05:54] I'm not familiar with that. I will look into it. [05:54] http://dev.tiki.org/web+hosting+control+panels [05:54] I've worked with an ISP for years and cpanel is kinda what has been around. I'm not attached to it, but I could say that many web hosting users are. [05:55] I'm for sure open to what works best. [05:55] Well, you have to weigh all the options [05:56] here is why I would look at it: [05:56] WHM and cpanel are well known and somewhat universal [05:56] people know them [05:56] lots of features [05:56] reasonable price [05:57] but not free beer, and not free speech [05:57] if the goal is to have a tight integration between control panel and Tiki, could be better to have FOSS [05:57] ex.: it would be nice if Tiki groups could have a mail alias [05:58] hmm, I see. very good point. as far as I'm aware, cpanel/whm is the only non-free software in the mix. [05:59] wow, thanks for that insight. I didn't think about that yet. [05:59] My pleasure [06:00] There is also: http://suite.tiki.org/ [06:02] oh yeah! I saw that and it's really exciting. I actually have proposed that in the roadmap for the project I'm working on. for now, I'm focused on tightening a smaller feature set that works well to get ~20 beta cases using it. [06:02] Tiki Suite is more geared to SMEs with a Tiki behind the Firewall. But as a second phase, I wanted to have a "web hosting" edition [06:03] that's awesome. I like that jabber is in there and the video chat. [06:03] yeah, pretty exciting :-) [06:03] what are the other FOSS apps that you have in mind? [06:06] for this project? right now, focus is on tiki as the core and for sake of not being overwhelmed I've haven't thought in specifics yet. I expect other things will express their usefullness as the project unfolds. I do see a chat and video casting component. [06:07] Right, so BigBlueButton and Kaltura are the obvious, easy additions [06:07] I like the sound of that: easy :) [06:10] For control panels: https://www.ohloh.net/p/compare?project_0=Domain+Technologie+Control&project_1=ISPConfig&project_2=Webmin [06:11] My favorite is ISPConfig because it's in PHP, and the license is BSD [06:11] And there is an open commit policy [06:12] but there are a few good options [06:13] nice. I think I've used webmin before. I'm going to try out ISPConfig before I get too deep into the fresh server I setup. [06:13] It permits Jailed Shell access (which we want for TRIM) [06:14] one of the not so good things about ISPConfig (and made them loose brownie points) is that there is no upgrade from v2 to v3 [06:14] They did a complete rewrite [06:15] So for us that start now, it's OK, but for people using before, that's not so cool [06:15] I also envision a native mobile app component at some point down the road. I started working on a basic android/iphone app that authenticates with the tiki. I left it to focus on other things but was seeing a mobile component that can interact, maybe get/send messages, send alerts with GPS coordinates, yadda yadda. lots of possibilties there. [06:15] http://www.ispconfig.org/ispconfig-3/ispconfig-monitor-app-for-android/ [06:16] xen216 : that is really cool. You will see in Tiki7 that we start a total revamp of both mobile and maps [06:17] great [06:18] just apply this on your Tiki7: http://profiles.tiki.org/Mobile [06:19] It's fresh so will be rough, but it will be awesome over time, thanks to jQueryMobile and http://mobileesp.com/ [06:21] mobileesp -- that's cool. I've dabbled with jQueryMobile. [06:22] You'll feel right at home :-) [06:22] what timezone are you in? [06:23] yay! I'm in PST. Northern California. [06:23] what about you? [06:23] Montreal, EST [06:23] I have a TikiCRM meeting in 8 hours, so I'll get some zzzzz [06:24] It's great to chat with you. I'm feeling very excited to integrate with the tiki community. thanks a lot. [06:24] my pleasure [06:24] I am the worst ceremony master though [06:25] If you had caught another admin, it would have been funnier :-) [06:25] is there a hazing ritual? [06:25] hehe, it involved a magic hat, and a wand [06:25] haha. [06:25] maybe you can pretend next time and catch some :-) [06:26] ok. :) [07:16] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:17] good morning tikiverse [07:17] *** coaboa|afk is now known as coaboa [07:40] *** xen216 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:52] *** xen216 has joined #tikiwiki [08:17] *** xavi1 has joined #tikiwiki [08:17] polom [08:18] * xavi1 just did a test upgrade from 6.x to 7.0beta2 and noticed that custom site header content is simply "gone" with no equivalent... :-/ [08:19] *** xavi1 has left [08:20] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [08:29] *** xavi has left [08:56] *** xen216 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:06] *** Trebly has joined #tikiwiki [10:27] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [10:28] *** Trebly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:37] *** Trebly has joined #tikiwiki [11:15] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3888 - - Fatal error at doc.tiki.org - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3888 [11:23] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [12:14] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [12:45] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34449 10/branches/7.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Update/fix positions of site header items. [12:46] *** dustball has joined #tikiwiki [12:46] *** dustball is now known as cyrusae [12:46] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34450 10/branches/7.x/tiki-install.php: [FIX] Update/fix positions of site header items. [12:46] hi. anyone here who could give me a helping hand? [12:47] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34451 10/branches/7.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] SQL error [12:48] i try to get my tiki to work with the AD. when i try to log in via an AD name, it doesnt work, i get a blank page. when i look in the syslog, i get this: "Connect Host: ldap://172.31.20.21:389. Binddn: sonneseb@wiegel.local at line 220 in /var/www/lib/auth/ldap.php" [12:49] *** rtdos has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:55] *** rtdos has joined #tikiwiki [13:08] *** radek82 has joined #tikiwiki [13:17] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [13:18] i ask my question again: i try to get my tiki to work with the AD. when i try to log in via an AD name, it doesnt work, i get a blank page. when i look in the syslog, i get this: "Connect Host: ldap://172.31.20.21:389. Binddn: sonneseb@wiegel.local at line 220 in /var/www/lib/auth/ldap.php" [13:19] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [13:23] cyrusae, sorry, I can't help you with this one as I've never used the LDAP connector [13:23] are you using tiki 6.3? [13:24] yup [13:27] not getting an error after that? [13:27] anything in the php error log? [13:27] blank page [13:27] nope [13:28] thats the only thing [13:28] did you enable php error reporting? [13:29] yup [13:32] lphuberdeau: or is there another log than the syslog? (besides that little button on the bottom of every page telling me all the php errors) [13:36] depending on server configurations, apache or php will log the errors as well [13:39] should be in /var/log, right? [13:39] something like that [13:39] nope, nothin... apache logs a few things but not the errors and i can't find any php logs at all [13:40] are you any comfortable with code? [13:41] i can read and change, but not code [13:41] that should do [13:41] edit tiki-setup.php [13:41] add ini_set('display_errors', 'on'); error_reporting(E_ALL); at the bottom [13:44] yup done [13:44] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: See you later! http://marclaporte.com) [13:44] try loggin in again [13:45] blank page. [13:46] no luck [13:47] sorry, without an error I can't really help you more than this [13:47] hm okay [13:47] stick around, someone else might have a clue [13:47] thanks anyway [13:55] *** ricks99 is now known as ricks99|away [13:57] *** ricks99|away has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:01] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [14:06] *** Trebly_ has joined #tikiwiki [14:08] *** Trebly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:08] *** Trebly_ is now known as Trebly [14:11] *** cyrusae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [14:19] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [14:24] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [14:26] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [14:28] New Forum Posts: Anonymous acces to main menu - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41266 [15:19] polom [15:47] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [15:50] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [16:01] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get the best-selling Tiki books (paperback and ebook) at http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/ricks99) [16:16] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:27] *** daevermann has joined #tikiwiki [16:28] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [16:42] i have trouble using utf-8 db dump from one server on my localhost... all chars are scrambled even after converting via installer... what else can be wrong ? [16:48] w00t, just figured out that i got missing $client_charset='utf8'; in my localhost's db/local.php [16:51] does it matter if i have on the server $db_tiki='mysql' but on my localhost i have $db_tiki='mysqli' ??? [16:51] for performance or otherwise [17:00] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34454 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [ENH]TRACKEFILTER: possibility to filter interactively on the status [17:00] *** daevermann has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:00] luciash: I think you can delete the line mysql [17:01] sylvieg: oh really ? completely ? [17:01] it's 6.3 btw [17:15] we have only one interface - and mysql and mysqli is the same interface [17:15] - so far I know [17:18] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [17:24] sylvieg: but why you can choose in the installer rom the dropdown then ? [17:24] s/rom/from/ [17:25] afaik mysql is "mysql classic" and mysqli is "mysql improved" [17:27] polom [17:28] luciash: it only matters for ADOdb. we should basically remove that. [17:29] ah, only for adodb, ok, that makes sense [17:29] chealer: polom :) [17:32] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34455 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: German translations done on i18n.tiki.org [17:33] sylvieg: do you know the status on text area insert position issues? it seems to be broken in 7.x for MSIE8. [17:33] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34456 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: French translations done on i18n.tiki.org [17:34] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [17:39] *** CriaCAC has joined #tikiwiki [17:48] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34457 10/branches/7.x/ (. lang/de/language.php lang/fr/language.php): backporting translations done on i18n.tiki.org [17:50] sylvieg: I'm specifically talking about plugins [18:03] Jesus is love. :D [18:06] Somebody belive in Jesus ? [18:11] *** CriaCAC has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:28] chealer: last time i checked it was crippled for opera too [18:34] *** xen216 has joined #tikiwiki [18:37] luciash: I see the same. at least you may not need to go to Windows to notice the bug then :-S [18:40] :-p [18:40] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:44] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get the best-selling Tiki books (paperback and ebook) at http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/ricks99) [18:45] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [18:54] New Forum Posts: Anonymous acces to main menu - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41266 [18:54] New Forum Posts: External login - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41254 [18:54] New Forum Posts: Errors converting between wiziwig editor and tikisyntax editor - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41249 [18:54] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [18:55] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [19:04] New Forum Posts: Anonymous acces to main menu - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41266 [19:04] New Forum Posts: External login - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41254 [19:04] New Forum Posts: Errors converting between wiziwig editor and tikisyntax editor - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41249 [19:53] can $dbversion_tiki line be deleted as well in local.php ? [19:57] seems it works without [20:14] *** rodrigo_sampaio1 has joined #tikiwiki [20:16] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:17] luciash, has not been used in a few versions now [20:18] like 4 [20:19] weird i still have it created in Tiki 7 beta 2 [20:19] is it just for info for with which version user started ? [20:20] "installed fresh" [20:20] it's never read at all [20:20] never updated either [20:20] might just be the installer doing it for no reason [20:20] yep, i noticed, just wasn't sure if it's not checked for something [20:22] anyway, thanks for confirmation [20:24] feel free to remove it ;) [20:33] luciash: unless you're upgrading from an old version, it makes absolutely no difference [20:37] k :) upgraded from 4.0 [20:38] luciash: no difference at all [20:43] how can one check what svn revision is his current svn upped copy of tiki ? impossible as it depends on files ? i tried svn info but it gives comepletely different rev numbers [20:44] luciash: it gives comepletely different rev numbers? different from what :-? [20:46] different from what last commit on branches/proposals/6.x/ suggests (iinw last one there is r34445 by sylvie) [20:48] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:48] but running svn info in my tiki root says Revision: 34457 [20:48] luciash: and what do you have? [20:49] Last Changed Rev: 34445 [20:49] luciash: r34457 and r34445 are the same for branches/proposals/6.x/ [20:49] how can it be ? [20:52] on my other server where i didn't svn up for a while it says for the same branch: Revision: 34457 and Last Changed Rev: 34445 [20:52] eh, sorry, wrong copy paste [20:53] Revision: 33293 and Last Changed Rev: 33273 [20:53] why there is not "Last Changed Rev: 34445" as well ? [20:54] luciash: r33273 was the last revision that changed branches/proposals/6.x/ as of r33293 [20:55] ah, ok, is there some command i could check which commit rev num was the last (freshest) on the branch ? [20:56] or i have to go to check my svn commit mails ? [21:00] luciash: *was* the last or *is* the last? [21:04] is the last (without need to svn up first) [21:07] luciash: $ svn info -rHEAD [21:13] chealer: great, exactly that ! thanks :) [21:19] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [21:19] polom [21:20] how is everybody? [21:23] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:23] hi fabricius [21:24] pretty well, and u ? [21:25] *** xen216 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [21:30] ah fine [21:31] good that you are online [21:32] I have an old problem again => http://foo.bar" target="_blank does not work anymore [21:32] I did use that on older Tikisites in menus [21:32] fabricius: enable Raw HTML in menus on General admin panel in navigation tab [21:32] was the syntax changed? do you know anythingaboutthat? [21:33] ok I check .. brb [21:34] luciash: works THANKS -. big hug for u [21:35] I do add that onto doc.tiki.org/Menu straight away [21:43] *** GillesM has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:45] 6.4 props doesn't sort by created and last modif date in tracker [21:46] tracker rating doesn't work either [21:49] in tracker items list [21:50] tiki-view_tracker.php?status=o&find=&trackerId=3&sort_mode=lastModif_asc nor desc works [21:51] luciash: dunno [21:52] just "reporting" it [21:56] I meant, I did add the info to themenu doc page ;-) [22:01] *** radek82 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:23] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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