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| kstingel | is there anyone working on a Smarty-3.x.x port for Tiki?
and which files would I need to look at if I were to commence work on it? | [03:10] |
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| I'm specifically referring to a Tiki 6.3/7.0 port, as they are the current versions ... Smarty3 should have it's own folder and users should be able to choose if they want to use the latest Smarty | [03:44] | |
| chealer | kstingel: porting to Smarty 3 was started and largely done IIRC but there's no plan to do it for existing releases. It's Tiki 8 material.
kstingel: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/19900 | [03:50] |
| kstingel | I've been looking at the themes, none of the one's available publically fit my planned site I was thinking Smarty3 would make it easier to write new template designsI've been looking at the themes, none of the one's available publically fit my planned site I was thinking Smarty3 would make it easier to write new template designsI've been looking at the themes, none of the one's available publically fit my planned site I was thinki
apologies, for some reason I can't type direct into IRC and paste repeated | [03:57] |
| chealer | that sentence got me dizzy | [04:00] |
| kstingel | repost for readability ...
I've been looking at the themes, none of the one's available publically fit my planned site I was thinking Smarty3 would make it easier to write new template designs I assume for writing my own template(s), the best way would be to start with "Skeleton" and flesh it out? | [04:01] |
| chealer | kstingel: your chances to get an answer here for that question at this time are small | [04:05] |
| kstingel | chealer: thanks .. I'll poke around a bit and try later | [04:08] |
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| CIA-122 | tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r34903 10/branches/7.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more french translations | [06:40] |
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| jonnyb | Northern poloms | [09:34] |
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| chibaguy | hi jonnyb. you're up north, eh? | [09:39] |
| jonnyb | hi chibaguy, yup! no drought up here! :) | [09:39] |
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| jonnyb | My friend Alex from Nagoya visited last week - he wants a Tiki :)
We talked about TikiFestJapan! | [09:41] |
| chibaguy | :-)
The strasbourg guys have asked about that, too. (maybe they have a travel budget ;-) ) My situation here has been kind of tenuous, though, so I haven't pushed much for it. Plus there don't seem to be many Tiki users in Japan yet. which I haven't work on improving either due to time constraints. | [09:44] |
| jonnyb | interesting - i'm about 90% sure i'm going to Strasbourg so will ask | [09:52] |
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| chibaguy | ok | [10:02] |
| SiL3NC3 | hi folkz, any tikifest planned in germany? | [10:10] |
| chibaguy | SiL3NC3: I think there was one recently.
ah, was November 2010. almost time for another? ;-) | [10:11] |
| SiL3NC3 | at this time i wasnt with tiki
but want to be part of the next german tikifest get more into tiki ... because it's a brilliant project! i want to support ... | [10:12] |
| chibaguy | are you very close to strasbourg, france? tikifest coming up july 6-8. | [10:13] |
| SiL3NC3 | could be made ... (when my tiki site is online) :)
3h trip | [10:14] |
| jonnyb | i think quite a few are coming from Germany to http://tiki.org/TikiFestStrasbourg2011 | [10:15] |
| SiL3NC3 | i lived near strassbourg some years ago | [10:15] |
| jonnyb | (thx chibaguy :P ) | [10:15] |
| SiL3NC3 | i will plan to come there, but cannot talk to much in english (maybe this is case to get there, to train my english) | [10:16] |
| jonnyb | would be a good place to start organising the next one | [10:16] |
| SiL3NC3 | at the list, there are already many german folkz (imho)
by yesterday i visited jörn otts website ;) (found by the consultant list) i need some deeper support for my project, which is very important to the germans (at all, i think) which i started with tiki - because i loved it from the first time is see the demo of it | [10:17] |
| jonnyb | sounds like a good start | [10:19] |
| chibaguy | Tikifests are often more or less multi-lingual, due to the "international" crowd :-). | [10:20] |
| SiL3NC3 | i'm also programming, but not in this deep, that i can support the tiki project as a developer at this time | [10:20] |
| jonnyb | have you met coaboa here yet? (Carsten) - he is organising something in Germany for this autumn i believe, to coincide with Tiki 8 | [10:20] |
| SiL3NC3 | no, not got any contact to german crowds so far :(
maybe someone could tell coaboa to contact me (via mail, skype, or phone) will give contact information at PN | [10:21] |
| jonnyb | are you on the devs list? | [10:21] |
| SiL3NC3 | i'm veeeeery new to tiki also to the tiki sites structrures and how to get into it ... this is so much new information to me, because is was programming for myself (all the time) | [10:22] |
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| jonnyb | i know, there's just so much stuff!
i'd guess he must be away as he's usually logged on here if around | [10:23] |
| SiL3NC3 | oh yeah!
so i decided to stay here all the time i can ... :) and sometimes i wrote to much, but you guys just have to stop me, if i have to do so ;) | [10:24] |
| jonnyb | try searching the dev list archives for discussions about a German Tiki users group
and maybe there's more stuff on de.tiki.org? | [10:25] |
| SiL3NC3 | this site is bad ...
not really used, imho dunno why and it is a very time expensive job to keep all informations up to date ... for tikifest (strassbourg) already stefan sieferer is on the list ... he's living 20 minutes (by car) away from me maybe i can meet with him (also at tikifest) | [10:25] |
| jonnyb | nice | [10:31] |
| SiL3NC3 | cant see the preview of the edited tikifest page ...
not sure, that i edit correctly ok, looks good (added my name to the list!) I'm Frank | [10:32] |
| jonnyb | hi Frank! :) | [10:41] |
| SiL3NC3 | hi jonnyb
SiL3NC3 is totally tiki infected ... | [10:42] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb knows the feeling | [10:42] |
| SiL3NC3 | it was 6 weeks ago, i get to tiki !!! | [10:43] |
| jonnyb | you're right - no preview :( | [10:43] |
| SiL3NC3 | and building a tiki for the third time ... (hopefully this gets the productional site)
but the edit was successful *puh* | [10:43] |
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| chibaguy | I also had a page that didn't show anything on preview, in tiki 7.0.
I think it just had a line of text and a trackerlist plugin. | [11:00] |
| jonnyb | i think tiki.org has ajax off (i'm just about to try with it on) | [11:00] |
| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3 thinks, that there a many small bugs in 7.0, hopefully i'm wrong | [11:01] |
| chibaguy | You know what they say about x.0 software releases.... :-) | [11:01] |
| SiL3NC3 | so i decited to use the latest svn
but also ran in "simple" problems using it :( esp. like nested {GROUP} plugin within a wiki page (was working in 6.3) and is badly needed for my site (cannot set it online, if this is not working. without any workaround) | [11:02] |
| jonnyb | anyone else getting svn up weirdness? i have lots of errors from my server running cron, and a local one seems to have got stuck (svn up 7.x)
and trunk "SSL negotiation failed: Secure connection truncated " | [11:05] |
| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3 did a fresh svn 7.x install ...
jonnyb: did you have any custom additions to htaccess or custom javascript (like piwik). i encountered problems using this in 7.x svn also ... css/js menus stuck after removing the custom settings, all working well | [11:07] |
| jonnyb | no, this is in the command line running the svn tool | [11:10] |
| SiL3NC3 | ah ok | [11:10] |
| jonnyb | which custom setting do you mean? re css menus? | [11:10] |
| chibaguy | I get "SSL handshake failed" trying to update trunk, using TortoiseSVN on windows. | [11:10] |
| jonnyb | thx chibaguy - probably an sf.net thing then | [11:11] |
| SiL3NC3 | also to me
handshake failed | [11:11] |
| chibaguy | ooh, branch 7 is updating here... | [11:12] |
| SiL3NC3 | with 7.x | [11:12] |
| chibaguy | ...at least the lang/ files so far. | [11:12] |
| SiL3NC3 | now it is working ...
but some are not ... | [11:12] |
| jonnyb | i guess sourceforge are having a Monday morning :P | [11:14] |
| SiL3NC3 | on a german feast day | [11:14] |
| chibaguy | yes, I only got 20 or so files and then it seems to have stalled. | [11:17] |
| SiL3NC3 | my update finished, but got errors during the update | [11:18] |
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| SiL3NC3 | crowds, should i switch back to 6.3 for a productive site? or are these issues normally fixed quickly?
i was asking about using the 7.x svn for a productive site and this was state okay ... but, if there such big problem (maybe for me) to get 6.3 features working with 7.x, it would probably better to switch back. what are you saying? /doing ... also, update the topic "Tiki 7.0 is out" :) | [11:19] |
| chibaguy | Probably it's best to stay with 6.3 for a live site. | [11:22] |
| jonnyb | SiL3NC3: is this the nesting of plugins like group? it's probably that this will never be made like it was in 6.x in the future | [11:22] |
| chibaguy | I think from the early days we thought 7.0 would be for adventurous users. | [11:22] |
| SiL3NC3 | jonnyb: so how will i get this behavior to work? is this so unlikely? | [11:22] |
| chibaguy | Although it got pretty solid overall, especially the new things. | [11:23] |
| SiL3NC3 | chibaguy: i think i'm an advanced technical, but a tiki newbie | [11:23] |
| chibaguy | SiL3NC3: , do you need nested Group plugins, or just a sequence of them? | [11:23] |
| jonnyb | the way the parser works changed in 7 - some exploits of "odd" behaviour were removed | [11:23] |
| SiL3NC3 | so thats the point
you can just state: Group OR else | [11:24] |
| chibaguy | can you do something like (group a plugin and content) (group b plugin and content) (group c plugin and content) ? | [11:24] |
| SiL3NC3 | not Group OR else GROUP OR else GROUP
the thing is, that you have to state a end {GROUP} (why not using {/GROUP} | [11:25] |
| chibaguy | Does the plugin work in 7.0 as described by the docs? | [11:26] |
| jonnyb | i don;t follow - can you put an example on pastebin pls? | [11:26] |
| SiL3NC3 | where it is not "allowed" (working) to add several groups within a next GROUP tag
chibaguy: yes ... jonnyb: already at the forums: http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41488 i just want to set something like that: (in php to understand what i mean) if (group="super admins") echo this content else if (group="admin") echo its content else if (group="registered") echo its content else ... echo anonymous content | [11:26] |
| jonnyb | oh - and that worked in 6.x? | [11:29] |
| SiL3NC3 | JUPP!
quite good ! | [11:29] |
| chibaguy | At least the closing {GROUP} tags are missing in your code. | [11:30] |
| SiL3NC3 | jp, but if i add them, the text will not be interpreted as plugin code
and what is happend if the Group Admins is inherit of group registered ... | [11:30] |
| jonnyb | sounds like one for LPH i'm afraid | [11:31] |
| chibaguy | I suppose the plugin wasn't designed to be nested, so if it worked in 6.3, that was probably luck. | [11:31] |
| SiL3NC3 | did this user see both contents?
this is not easy stuff, imho | [11:31] |
| jonnyb | on that forum page the code examples aren't getting shown as code - i just see the source - same for you? | [11:32] |
| SiL3NC3 | also the security is a problem here (for registered feeds sending the complete source) | [11:32] |
| chibaguy | SiL3NC3: If the goal is to display content to two groups, can't that be done without nesting the plugin? | [11:32] |
| SiL3NC3 | jonnyb: yes | [11:32] |
| jonnyb | also wrong then :( | [11:32] |
| SiL3NC3 | jonnyb: /me was also wondering (updated to 7.x ???!) :p | [11:33] |
| chibaguy | oh, three groups... | [11:33] |
| jonnyb | yup - looks like it | [11:33] |
| SiL3NC3 | chibaguy: endless groups!
chibaguy: just for this example here, cannot write down all custom groups i set up there are also organisators i want to setup a structures organisation site (but community like) and put in the needed information for the users registration status (register visitor, portal member (custom group), portal organisator (custom), portal group (custom group), portal group organisators (also custom). with these groups i will handle the complete permissions and user statuses | [11:34] |
| chibaguy | Being able to nest the plugin would be good, but maybe it needs to be coded again for Tiki 7. | [11:37] |
| SiL3NC3 | and with the starting page, i want to give information (on the further integration in the project/portal) upon the users group
chibaguy: look at the 6.3 solution, would be a point to start, but the security should also be looked at but: what about starting a new plug? we can also set an option to the group for a different homepage ... is this possible? with tk? t7? how could this functionally be done with tiki7 in any way? (if you have understood, what i want to do) | [11:37] |
| chibaguy | well, only in a general way ;-). | [11:41] |
| SiL3NC3 | and this will be ...
linking and clicking? no ... this is confusing to the users, imho | [11:41] |
| chibaguy | Hopefully, you can manage what you want to do with the group plugin, using tiki 6.3 if not tiki 7. | [11:46] |
| SiL3NC3 | this was working fine
only the groups content was shown ... can i handle this with group pages? what if, the group is inherit of another group? which is being used for permitting? | [11:47] |
| chibaguy | I don't use group pages or plugin much. | [11:50] |
| SiL3NC3 | important for structured information handling ...
imho hm | [11:51] |
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| SiL3NC3 | by the first step of the project it would be enough to use the functioning GROUP else ANONYMOUS, but in further, i need a solution for this .. hopefully someone agreed with me and build a piece of code (i will give any support i'm able to ...)
the idea behind that home pages are a selfguided portal entry point where to state informations for the users portal memberships (hope to be understandable with by broken english ...) | [11:54] |
| another security point: why is browsing to http://<any-tiki-site>/user1 possible to view? can this be deactivated? also if submissions are activated, browsing to tiki-list_submissions.php can be accessed and not deactivated via the tiki permissions (there are no rights for list_submissions or view user prefs (global))
for anonymous (worldwide) can tiki be completely "closed" but one or two needed pages (like 'who we are' and 'contact') via object permissions? | [12:02] | |
| jonnyb | SiL3NC3: the userxx url is in htaccess so you could remove that
but where it leads to would still work | [12:07] |
| SiL3NC3 | are setting (within global permissions) planned for that?
settings | [12:08] |
| jonnyb | what's displayed on those pages is controllable by perms (to an extent) | [12:08] |
| SiL3NC3 | also the submissions thingie | [12:08] |
| jonnyb | i'm not aware of any plans for that area | [12:09] |
| SiL3NC3 | but perms are displaying ALL stuff ... if the users group is inherit (esp. to registered) | [12:09] |
| jonnyb | i know Nelson did quite a bit for a site a while ago (for 6.x)
it probably will need working out for the user groups stuff | [12:09] |
| SiL3NC3 | would give any support i'm able to ... :)
i have lots of ideas of usability stuff of organizing group | [12:10] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34904 10/branches/7.x/templates/wiki_edit_actions.tpl: [FIX] Fix preview button when wiki actions are shown twice as on t.o (and prevent invalid duplicate id) | [12:13] |
| jonnyb | Marc is the guy to talk to about that i expect | [12:13] |
| SiL3NC3 | that is what i hear get more times ... ;) | [12:15] |
| jonnyb | :D | [12:15] |
| SiL3NC3 | but havent had the luck to | [12:15] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34905 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-milkyway_tiki_7.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for Milky Way theme (Tiki 7). | [12:15] |
| jonnyb | it's probably why he doesn't show up here too often! :) | [12:15] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34906 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-mittwoch_tiki_7.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for Mittwoch theme (Tiki 7). | [12:16] |
| SiL3NC3 | *understood* :)
!seen mlaporte | [12:16] |
| btw: seeing the user prefs is also a problem, in case of seeing the contributed stuff (also admin pages are shown up here for anonymous) | [12:24] | |
| jonnyb | that sounds wrong | [12:24] |
| SiL3NC3 | okay, not readable, but that they existing names
i can see the contributions without login ... | [12:24] |
| jonnyb | that's not WYCSIWYCA | [12:25] |
| SiL3NC3 | and a page called ADMIN-NOTES with have only permissions to me
is a user account which is set to public not able to set "public" to group registered= this could be ....CAccess thats what i'm asking ... ;) | [12:25] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34907 10/mods/trunk/themes/milkyway_tiki_7/ (17 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] Tiki 7 version of Milky Way theme. | [12:27] |
| jonnyb | but if anon goes to list pages can they see it? | [12:28] |
| SiL3NC3 | because when an account is set to private no one of the hole community can click the username (esp. at the online users list) | [12:28] |
| jonnyb | of in search results? | [12:28] |
| SiL3NC3 | no page listing
no, by browsing <tiki-site>/user1 search results are forbidden (have to login first) | [12:28] |
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| SiL3NC3 | also tiki-list_submissions are shown up and cannot be granted or forbidden, correct me if i'm wrong | [12:30] |
| jonnyb | no idea, never worked out submissions | [12:31] |
| SiL3NC3 | my project site have to be completly closed (anything) to anonymous users, but the pages i will set object rights for ... | [12:31] |
| jonnyb | articles in general are a bit wobbly imho | [12:31] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34908 10/mods/trunk/themes/mittwoch_tiki_7/ (15 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Tiki 7 version of Mittwoch theme. | [12:31] |
| SiL3NC3 | yes, so i decided not to allow articles, yet :(
also in case of the not interpreted {CODE} plugin and html code (in 7.x) not usable for us ... http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41491#threadId41493 | [12:31] |
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| SiL3NC3 | polom | [13:22] |
| marclaporte | polom
SiL3NC3 : so I see you solved the js / openstreetmap issue well, a workaround | [13:25] |
| SiL3NC3 | hi marc, got some security issues: can access to user prefs generally denied (only granted to registered users), also tiki-list_submissions permissions are not able to set via global permissions.
marclaporte: yes, but i just want to have a input field, not this map thingie ... is this possible | [13:26] |
| marclaporte | security@tiki.org is the place to report vulnerabilities | [13:26] |
| SiL3NC3 | is this a vul?
okay, i think so! :) i will write a message | [13:26] |
| marclaporte | I don't know, but it's the standard answer as this chat is logged
about maps: "is this possible"? Do you have commit access yet? | [13:27] |
| SiL3NC3 | nope
mail sent marclaporte: can you say something to nested GROUP plugins ... (working with 6.3) http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41488 | [13:36] |
| marclaporte | Wiki Parser was revamped in Tiki7
heh I will reply on forums what is your SourceForge user name? | [13:39] |
| lphuberdeau | just invert the groups and code plugins | [13:41] |
| marclaporte | you need to close the group plugin | [13:41] |
| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3
yes, but then i cannot do nested Groups ... | [13:41] |
| lphuberdeau | oh yes... closing the plugins properly works better too | [13:42] |
| SiL3NC3 | i just want to show A content for the checked groups | [13:42] |
| lphuberdeau | the new parser behaves differently on invalid syntax | [13:42] |
| SiL3NC3 | why not using {/GROUPS} instead | [13:43] |
| lphuberdeau | because that's not the plugin syntax | [13:44] |
| SiL3NC3 | i know that lphuberdeau
we are talking in dev ? maybe this would be more informative and easier to handle to code | [13:44] |
| lphuberdeau | there are enough supported syntaxes as it is | [13:45] |
| SiL3NC3 | okay, thank you | [13:46] |
| marclaporte | so maybe we could use else if in such plugins? | [13:57] |
| SiL3NC3 | that would do the job!! | [13:57] |
| lphuberdeau | that has to be done per-plugin | [13:58] |
| SiL3NC3 | to avoid registered content is displayed for admins | [13:58] |
| lphuberdeau | the parser has nothing to do with it | [13:58] |
| SiL3NC3 | this is plugin functionality, imho | [13:59] |
| lphuberdeau | body of the plugin is specific to each plugin | [14:00] |
| marclaporte | SiL3NC3 : welcome to the team: https://sourceforge.net/users/sil3nc3 | [14:08] |
| SiL3NC3 | thanks, dude | [14:09] |
| jonnyb | yay! welcome SiL3NC3! | [14:10] |
| SiL3NC3 | let the storm be with you :) | [14:10] |
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| SiL3NC3 | (the creative one) ;) | [14:10] |
| fabricius | polom
hi SiL3NC3 | [14:11] |
| SiL3NC3 | hiho fabricius | [14:11] |
| fabricius | SiL3NC3: hast Du direkten Kontakt mit Stefan Sieferer? | [14:13] |
| SiL3NC3 | fabricius: sorry, no not yet | [14:13] |
| fabricius | SiL3NC3: er ist sich noch nicht sicher, ober zum TikiFest kommen kann | [14:13] |
| SiL3NC3 | fabricius: können wir hier deutschen?
fabricius: ich würde das mit ihm abstimmen, vielleicht hat er ja mehr Bock, wenn ich auch mitgehe ... | [14:14] |
| fabricius | SiL3NC3: berufliche gründe - die haben ausgerechnet zur Zeit die Server der ganzen Firma umzustellen | [14:15] |
| marclaporte | SiL3NC3 : so now that you have commit access, will you add an {ELSEIF} in the group plugin? :-) | [14:18] |
| SiL3NC3 | for the first time let me get some more familiar to the svn system (at this i'm a really newbie) | [14:19] |
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| SiL3NC3 | but i will do what i can ... (first talk to the other german developers, like now) and get into the tiki dev team ... then we will see how we can put it together! :) | [14:20] |
| RobertPlummer | polom all | [14:20] |
| SiL3NC3 | re RobertPlummer | [14:21] |
| RobertPlummer | lphuberdeau & jonnyb have you guys ever used wincache instead of memcache for preformance gains with tiki?
(or anyone else as well) | [14:22] |
| jonnyb | hi RobertPlummer - nope | [14:22] |
| lphuberdeau | wincache is homologous to apc or xcache, not memcache
should work just fine on windows as far as bytecode caching goes in PHP | [14:23] |
| RobertPlummer | Will tiki detect it?
$opcode_cache is bool false in tiki-admin_include_performance.tpl. or I guess it is null | [14:24] |
| lphuberdeau | well, tiki won't show the dashboard for it
but that does not mean it won't work it only happens at the PHP level and tiki has nothing to do for it you can add the calls for tiki to display it in the admin panel, I just never had a windows server to install it on and test with (and I don't want one either) | [14:31] |
| marclaporte | SiL3NC3 : super! | [14:33] |
| RobertPlummer | lphuberdeau: lol | [14:34] |
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| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34910 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Add file from URL from the upload file interface | [14:52] |
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| overseer | hey guys! can anyone point me to a documentation page about how to embed pdfs, imgs, and spreadsheets on a page? | [14:57] |
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| jonnyb | overseer: is http://doc.tiki.org/pluginfiles the sort of thing? | [14:59] |
| overseer | i'll take a look at that, thanks.
ah, no thats not quite what i want i need to know how to display it on the page, rather than just list it | [15:00] |
| jonnyb | try http://doc.tiki.org/PluginImg and http://doc.tiki.org/PluginSheet (no idea about pdf display - it would be browser specific i think) | [15:03] |
| fabricius | hi overseer like the {IMG} plugin
ah jonny has it cheers | [15:04] |
| jonnyb | hi fabricius | [15:04] |
| fabricius | hi jonny | [15:04] |
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| overseer_ | hey, sorry bout that guys, my browser crashed.
i got the the links though, and that looks like exactly what i need | [15:06] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Refresh problem on tabs of some tracker tables (Firefox) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=41498 | [15:12] |
| marclaporte | lphuberdeau Here is a torture test page that didn't survive new parser: http://tiki.org/All+Releases | [15:14] |
| lphuberdeau | honestly, I called for extensive testing on this around 8 months ago
however, I don't think the plugin parser changes have anything to do here there is no nesting or anything there, perhaps fancytable does not deal with the input change | [15:15] |
| marclaporte | I suspect WikiWords
marclaporte would like to remove WikiWords but it will breaks tons of links | [15:17] |
| lphuberdeau | suspecting lunar phases seems to have as many supporting evidence | [15:19] |
| marclaporte | lunar phases was my second assumption | [15:19] |
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| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34911 10/branches/7.x/lib/prefslib.php: [FIX] perspectives: Protect against crash when perspectives contain prefs that no longer exist (as seen on t.o) | [15:21] |
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| codyg | good polom and morning to all. on fresh 7 install is it ok to ignore tiki warning database and utf8?
i'm going to check the tiki box and continue... what's the worse that could happen? | [15:26] |
| overseer_ | with the pluginsheet, is it possible to use a spreadsheet thats attached to the page? | [15:28] |
| codyg | overseer: when you say "use" do you mean edit or view? | [15:30] |
| overseer_ | codyg: I mean, when you put {SHEET(id=>"ID")} can i specify an attached spreadsheet to be used?
codyg: Like what I can do with pluginImg's attId attribute | [15:31] |
| lphuberdeau | sheetId refers to the tiki spreadsheets | [15:32] |
| codyg | do you want to view or edit this attached file? | [15:32] |
| overseer_ | preferably both, but mainly view | [15:32] |
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| codyg | i've had issues with sheetid | [15:33] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Does Greek unicode show up? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41499 | [15:33] |
| codyg | i'm still new to this cms, still don't know what i don't know. have you got specific syntax? | [15:35] |
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| overseer_ | codyg: was that to me? | [15:36] |
| codyg | overseer: yes | [15:36] |
| overseer_ | codyg: {SHEET(id=>Server Inventory-003.xlsx)}Description Goes Here{SHEET} | [15:36] |
| codyg | have you syntax?
interesting that might work in windows i haven't tried that... will do, brb | [15:36] |
| overseer_ | and that Server Inventory-003.xlsx is attached to the page | [15:37] |
| codyg | a wiki page? | [15:41] |
| jonnyb | codyg and overseer_ - the id for the sheet plugin is a number, and it's the id of a tiki sheet, not a file or anything | [15:42] |
| overseer_ | yes
where do i find the tiki sheets? | [15:42] |
| jonnyb | http://doc.tiki.org/PluginSheet
i'd guess http://doc.tiki.org/Sheet | [15:42] |
| overseer_ | tiki-import_sheet.php?
so where do i get the numbered id? ok, i got that working...its not a numbered id. It's the name of the sheet next, I wonder how to import a excel file...It didn't work correctly when I tried. It just spit out a bunch of junk in plaintext then crashed my browser. | [15:43] |
| codyg | overseer: is that an excel created file or a tiki created attachment? | [15:48] |
| marclaporte | overseer_ : you can copy-paste from Excel to Tiki Spreadsheet | [15:48] |
| jonnyb | if RobertPlummer is around he might be able to help - he's the spreadsheet king! :) | [15:49] |
| marclaporte | RobertPlummer added that nifty feature | [15:49] |
| jonnyb | (marclaporte's pretty knowlegeble too - the power behind the throne, you might say! ;) ) | [15:49] |
| marclaporte | pffffttt
:-) | [15:50] |
| codyg | nice to meet you all
Do you know any British Columbia tiki users? i can't be the only one | [15:50] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34912 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): {ENH]fgal: [possibility to find a fgal with a fileId | [15:51] |
| marclaporte | I know there are many
just the other day, I saw a site, while I was searching for something else | [15:51] |
| codyg | good to know | [15:52] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34913 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Displaying source in file galleries | [15:53] |
| marclaporte | codyg : http://www.pqlug.org/ | [15:54] |
| codyg | heh, i recognize that cms! | [15:54] |
| marclaporte | codyg : add yourself here: https://www.ohloh.net/p/tikiwiki/map
wait, you are there! | [15:55] |
| codyg | ii am!
didn't see anyone else | [15:55] |
| marclaporte | wow, Tiki is "East coast" ! | [15:55] |
| codyg | i'm in victoria
<< webmaster at bbc.org | [15:56] |
| overseer_ | marclaporte: I tried to copy-paste from excel into tiki-sheet. It didnt work. | [15:57] |
| codyg | in the fall i hope to tiki-ize bbc.org | [15:57] |
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| marclaporte | way to go! | [15:58] |
| codyg | overseer: how do i add file attachment to wiki page? | [15:59] |
| overseer_ | codyg: go to the bottom, near edit page and the rest. It says "Attach File
" | [16:02] |
| codyg | overseer: of course, sheesh | [16:03] |
| overseer_ | lol | [16:03] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34915 10/trunk/installer/schema/20110613_filegal_source_display_tiki.sql: [FIX] Missing patch | [16:03] |
| overseer_ | marclaporte: So the only good way to embed an xlsx spreadsheet in tikiwiki is to use the tikispreadsheets? All I really need is to display it. | [16:04] |
| codyg | do attachments need to be enabled on a fresh install? | [16:05] |
| marclaporte | You could export to HTML and put in a wiki page
xlsx is not a web format | [16:05] |
| overseer_ | hmmm, still not ideal, because users will need to download the file and edit it later | [16:05] |
| marclaporte | Tiki is a web application | [16:05] |
| overseer_ | Are you familiar with confluence at all? | [16:06] |
| marclaporte | Microsoft surely offers a web way to edit files
yes, a bit | [16:06] |
| codyg | exactly, tiki sheets are not xlsx | [16:06] |
| overseer_ | im trying to do something like what they have on there. | [16:07] |
| codyg | so sheet=>name isn't going to help if your pulling xls | [16:07] |
| overseer_ | You can attach a spreadsheet to a page, then use a macro to display it. But ultimately, it is still a spreadsheet attached to the page, which you can download if need be | [16:07] |
| codyg | iss has all kinds of office macros | [16:08] |
| overseer_ | codyg: what's iss? | [16:08] |
| codyg | windows server application | [16:08] |
| overseer_ | codyg: do you mean iis? | [16:09] |
| codyg | i do man
mean | [16:09] |
| overseer_ | ah, gotcha | [16:09] |
| codyg | not enough coffee | [16:09] |
| overseer_ | lol
know how that is | [16:09] |
| codyg | confluence the cms? | [16:10] |
| overseer_ | yes
it's another wiki system | [16:10] |
| codyg | woo hoo
big numbers on the pricing page | [16:10] |
| overseer_ | yeah....thats why im going with tikiwiki | [16:11] |
| codyg | overseer: good plan | [16:11] |
| lphuberdeau | 10$ for up to 10 users, than you are locked in | [16:12] |
| codyg | nice looking site | [16:13] |
| marclaporte | http://framework.zend.com/manual/1.11/en/zend.search.lucene.overview.html has something to read xlsx
how advanced the spreadsheet? | [16:15] |
| lphuberdeau | reads the text only | [16:16] |
| codyg | but how does it format the table? | [16:20] |
| marclaporte | codyg & overseer_ What RobertPlummer and I need to know is what is missing to use Tiki Spreadsheet? | [16:31] |
| codyg | a link ;)
maybe i disabled it... brb i did. but when I enabled it again my spreadsheet data was still there. ;) there are a couple of issues | [16:35] |
| marclaporte | This would be nice too: http://dev.tiki.org/WebODF | [16:37] |
| codyg | tiki-view looks like an edit form with rownumbers and no formatting.
i think i tried changing themes, but i'll try again. | [16:39] |
| marclaporte | There could be improvements in the integration
This is outside of Tiki: http://www.visop-dev.com/lib/jquery/jquery.sheet/jquery.sheet.html | [16:40] |
| codyg | different theme same behaviour
the proper table display is there for a few seconds and is then replaced by this ugly edit form | [16:41] |
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| marclaporte | ok, there is a param for that
You can feature requests and bug reports here: http://dev.tiki.org/Spreadsheet | [16:43] |
| codyg | so it's suppose to look like that? ;(
oops | [16:43] |
| marclaporte | I have to go
but there are options | [16:44] |
| codyg | me too
but i'd rather stay and chat but the day is moving on and so must i have a good good one and tiki on! | [16:44] |
| marclaporte | http://doc.tiki.org/PluginSheet
wait | [16:45] |
| codyg | and thanks for the education
yes? | [16:46] |
| marclaporte | simple=y will give you a different look | [16:46] |
| codyg | ah... now i know! | [16:46] |
| marclaporte | or you could do editable=n | [16:46] |
| jonnyb | bbl | [16:46] |
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| marclaporte | try all the options of that page :-) | [16:46] |
| codyg | on the configure tab?
a class name? | [16:47] |
| overseer_ | Sorry I was away guys | [16:49] |
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| codyg | i'm only here for a moment... did you solve your issue? | [16:49] |
| overseer_ | So for me, I'd like to have a "import excel spreadsheet" option, which could convert the .xls or .xlsx to a tikispreadshet
also, I need the ability to change the column widths on the fly (drag column headers) | [16:50] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34916 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX] AJAX requests need to get errors as errors to work be handled correctly by jquery | [16:52] |
| codyg | overseer: click the help button on the sheet page and find the words on import/export
supported formats are tikisheet, csv and excel | [16:53] |
| overseer_ | i tried that. It killed my browser
after spitting out a bunch of gobely gook | [16:54] |
| codyg | i'm trying to import xlsx and something isn't so happy... aw... snap
darn i'll try in ie | [16:57] |
| lphuberdeau | import was written before MS changed formats, so the new one might not be supported yet | [16:59] |
| marclaporte | copy-paste instead of import
codyg: in a wiki page, you can do {sheet id=6 simple=y} (or something similar) gtg | [16:59] |
| codyg | doesn't work in ie, but gives a tiki error | [17:00] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Page looks different in Firefox and IE - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41500 | [17:04] |
| overseer_ | hey guys, I'm working on setting up a tracker for user registration...does that work if users cant make their own accounts? | [17:11] |
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| can anyone help me with authentication methods?
I'm guessing authentication could be based on an Active Directory, but I don't really know how that works | [17:42] | |
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| overseer_ | nevermind, i found some docs on it | [17:46] |
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ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte | [18:13] |
| chealer | polom | [18:13] |
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| chealer | marclaporte: do you think 7.0 should go on the Web App Gallery?
hi jonnyb | [19:04] |
| jonnyb | hi chealer | [19:05] |
| chealer | jonnyb: Does r34904 fix the empty previews? or does that fix why I apparently had to click twice to get a preview on dev :-? | [19:07] |
| jonnyb | probably not - it fixes the bottom preview button with it's being shown both top and bottom like on t.o | [19:08] |
| marclaporte | chealer : I would wait for 7.1 | [19:09] |
| jonnyb | before it was just reloading the whole page | [19:09] |
| chealer | jonnyb: OK. so did you not see the issue with blank AJAX previews yet? | [19:10] |
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| chealer | marclaporte: all right | [19:10] |
| jonnyb | seen it a couple of times (and fixed them) - it depends on page content | [19:10] |
| chealer | could a chanop update /topic ? | [19:11] |
| marclaporte | will do | [19:11] |
| jonnyb | send me (or dev list) examples when you find them
i need to feed - more tomorrow... | [19:11] |
| *** | marclaporte sets mode: +o chealer | [19:11] |
| jonnyb | :D | [19:11] |
| chealer | jonnyb: really :-? do you have an example of fix? | [19:12] |
| *** | marclaporte sets mode: +o jonnyb
marclaporte sets mode: +o nkoth | [19:12] |
| jonnyb | :O | [19:12] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte is trigger happy... | [19:12] |
| jonnyb | it'll be in editlib - check the history of parse_to_wysiwyg (or whatever it's called)
gottago, byee | [19:13] |
| chealer | jonnyb: OK, I'm not getting it right now on the same page I thought I had it an hour ago. I'll tell you next time :-)
thank you | [19:15] |
| jonnyb | hmm, odd - maybe not only content then
tra | [19:15] |
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chealer changes topic to: Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 7 is out! Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy! ChanServ changes topic to: Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 6.3 is out! Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy! ChanServ sets mode: -o chealer marclaporte sets mode: +o chealer chealer changes topic to: Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 7 is out! Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy! ChanServ changes topic to: Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 6.3 is out! Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy! ChanServ sets mode: -o chealer | [19:15] |
| marclaporte | hehe | [19:19] |
| chealer | that's odd. I lose the privileges when I try to change topic | [19:19] |
| marclaporte | ok, I will do[19:20] *** marclaporte changes topic to: Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - Software made the Wiki Way - Tiki 7.0 is out! Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy! | [19:19] |
| chealer | thanks | [19:21] |
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| changi|away | polom
just a quick question | [19:33] |
| marclaporte | answer: 42 | [19:33] |
| changi|away | in tiki7, why have we lost the navigation menu position in filegal ?
marclaporte: lol when you select a file gal, the navigation menu stay always at the top | [19:34] |
| marclaporte | no sé (I don't know in Spanish)
but I think no sé sounds a lot more cool | [19:37] |
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| chealer | changi|away: I don't know what you mean by navigation menu | [19:39] |
| changi|away | the left part of file gal
which was in phplayer before and now in css meun s/meun/menu/ | [19:42] |
| chealer | changi|away: where should it be if not at the top? | [19:43] |
| changi|away | when you have 3 or 4 level
it doesn't show your current filegal but the top one | [19:45] |
| chealer | changi|away: Ooh | [19:55] |
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| changi|away: I see the same in 6.x | [20:12] | |
| changi|away | was working in 6.3 | [20:16] |
| CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34917 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] HTML special characters encoding | [20:20] |
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| codyg | good afternoon and polom to all ... i'm wondering about permissions. scenario: user has access to only one category of file. user is in group with custom homepage which displays list of files in the category. there is no other access to any part of the cms, including no profile. Possible?
potential owners in strata need to see two years of minutes i guess i'm just talking it through | [21:39] |
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| marclaporte | You should create a category, and give perms to that category
and put all the stuff in it and test to make sure you set everything properly | [22:22] |
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| ricks99 | polom evening y'all | [23:32] |
| marclaporte | hi ricks99
just the man I wanted to talk to! | [23:35] |
| ricks99 | hiya marclaporte | [23:35] |
| marclaporte | Please see: http://tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Networks
I removed some broken stuff | [23:35] |
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| marclaporte | fixing would have been better but I don't know how | [23:36] |
| ricks99 | broken widgets? | [23:36] |
| marclaporte | yes | [23:37] |
| ricks99 | let me take a look | [23:37] |
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| ricks99 | @marclaporte: do you see linkedin now? | [23:43] |
| marclaporte | I will check
the way they count employees is weird but, yeah, that's good | [23:44] |
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