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Snoopy has joined #tikiwiki Snoopy: Hello!
Was wondering if I could find a little help with a new Tiki Wiki installation here. ***: dabright has joined #tikiwiki fabricius: Hi Snoopy
more or less coinsidently still awake
what's the problem? hope I could help
but heading off soon Snoopy: I've made the install and got things set up, but it doesn't look like I have a new user registration option on my main page. http://famdamily.info fabricius: I see a link "register" Snoopy: *facepalm* The theme just wasn't rendering right in my browser and I missed it.
I.
Am.
An idiot. fabricius: Powered by Elgg, the leading open source social networking platform Snoopy: Ah... That's not right... fabricius: that doesn't seem to be Tiki ;-) Snoopy: DNS lag. fabricius: ahh Snoopy: I've been playing fast and loose with changes today. :) fabricius: ok - have another link? Snoopy: http://205.196.219.105 ? fabricius: just in case: did you activate the "users can register" ? Snoopy: Yeah. And I found my missing link. :) fabricius: http://205.196.219.105/tiki-register.php -> it seems to be a css problem Snoopy: I think I just need to change to a better theme. fabricius: the "forgot my password" overlaps the register link
or you customise the theme, if you like it generally Snoopy: That would require knowledge of CSS which I don't (yet) have. fabricius: customizing themes in Tiki is quite easy - at least the basic stuff
you do nothave any knowledge, or no advanced knowledge?
did you ever used css in html? Snoopy: Effectively none. fabricius: ok Snoopy: I can just about spell CSS. :) fabricius: harr harrr
same with me only a couple of month ago ***: dabright has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) fabricius: did buy a book "CSS for kids" late december Snoopy: I take it you recommend it? fabricius: for kids and for adults who want a really basic beginners guide
yes definitely Snoopy: Cool. I'll look it up. I've also got a few friends who rank intermediate - expert on CSS knowledge. fabricius: I would not dare to tell me designer and I could not develop a theme from scratch, butnot so bad to do basic adjustments Snoopy: *nod* fabricius: hmmm - I bought it in german .. do not actually know, if theres an english version of it Snoopy: Well, I'm sure there's something out there for beginners in English. fabricius: if you want to see: http://papatour.eu - that's what I could make out of a fivealive standart theme, some weeks after my first steps
I'd say Tiki is very good for starting with CMS-CSS work ***: dabright has joined #tikiwiki fabricius: means CSS templating Snoopy: Not bad! fabricius: thx
tomorrow site will change again, as we start the tour on tomorrow
but that will not be CSS changes, but just different content design Snoopy: Groovy. fabricius: less culomns, a wide random picture or slideshow on top of most pages (depending on the day / station where we attend ...
already prepared, but still need some adjustments
steep learningcurve in Tiki
do you know Tiki longer, or just beginning / interested?
since a while I am thinking about writing a little beginners guide for CSS-Themes Snoopy: Just starting out. Trying to find something that will make a good social network platform / facebook replacement for my group of friends. fabricius: especially for tiki
In css I see a bit of a lack regarding to what I was looking for at my start with theme customizing Snoopy: I don't actually think I'm going to get that involved in the CSS, but let someone who knows it already poke at it if they're interested. fabricius: but the community is very helpful - thought some of the devs save my arse a couple of time (beeing under some pressure in a project)
some basics you should know - makes live easier - at least when you roughly understand what goes on, if you're bugtracking
some basics like what is a margin or padding and how a css file looks like Snoopy: *nod* fabricius: no need to research every selector by yourself, if you have somebody to do the ha for youcking Snoopy: Yup. fabricius: but not such difficult
just a mess sometimes and on some point timeconsuming, if you go to the details
so your question is sorted so far? Snoopy: Completely. Thanks.
Still feel like a dumkopf for missing the obvious... :) fabricius: and you are researching wich software for a certain project Snoopy: So far, Elgg, Dolphin, Diaspora, StatusNet, Tiki and one other I forgot the name of.
Tiki's the best-looking one yet. fabricius: oh don'task me, how often I waste hours, sometimes days just because of a simple checkbox ... but it's not really wasted time - more gaining experience Snoopy: Yup. Such is the nature of testing... fabricius: Diaspora seems a different building, isn't it?
what you want to do with the software?
we have "friendship network" as feature, but it seems to be more a debrecated feature - faced out and not actively developed Snoopy: Diaspora is very Facebook-like, but it's in Alpha, buggy, and hard to install and make work.
I want something with, yes, a friends network, groups and status updates.
Facebook would be just fine, but I want to bring it under my control for my friends so that we can share information without worrying about Facebook or Google's privacy policies. fabricius: I regret that the friendship network thing is not so much a killer in Tiki - but in the end the groupware stuff is more important for most of us ... and we all have to accept aswell, where the actual coders see their personal priorities Snoopy: Yup. fabricius: > I want something with, yes, a friends network, groups and status updates. <- may become a bit difficult in Tiki, as I guess that will not be developed further - not in assessable time Snoopy: *shrug* I'll see if this will work, if not, I'll look to something else... fabricius: you should ask Marc or ... check the feature requests, write a forum posts ...
Tiki is a very very good tol for nearly everythingI can imagine ... aswell you will always find usecases with very specific requirement
what els you would like / need apart from status updates?
else Snoopy: Photo galleries
And groups, but I can probably use forums for that. fabricius: perfect - we have image galleries, but since a while not necessary anymore, cause 'file galleries' have been further developed and take that aswell
groups - tiki is very good in that
and rights management, if you need that
if you need groups, where people cansubscribe bythemselves or moderated groups ... and categories
ever heard about workspaces?
literally a combination of groups, categories and perspectives Snoopy: Users can create their own dynamically? fabricius: I did not yet set this up, but yes, that's definitively possiple - called 'organic groups' Snoopy: Cool! fabricius: quite new feature, as I ... guess since 4.x or 5.x - I will have to look into that quite soon
so many features - you need times and times and still there is stuff left to learn about
you said forums ... just one of the basic features Snoopy: Yup. fabricius: what I find as very cool with Tiki, is that you have the WIKI-Syntax all over the place and every feature is tight integrated Snoopy: I'm seeing that... fabricius: different from extension-model-based CMSes like Typo3, where for ex. the wiki extension does not work together with the rights managemant
and there is the WYSIWYG aswell, based on the CKE Project ***: CIA-77 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) fabricius: Most of the features support WYSIWYG aswell - as it still is under work of even better integration
you should nor switch between WYSIWYG and WIKI-Syntax on the same existing page (itś still possible to convert) but you can freely decide, in wich page you prefer the one or the other editor/syntax Snoopy: Thanks for the advice. I should be getting to sleep soon. fabricius: NP
me too Snoopy: G'night! ***: Snoopy has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)
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upps ***: Kissaki_ has joined #tikiwiki CIA-93: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r34938 10/branches/7.x/templates/list_file_gallery.tpl: [FIX] Remove useless - scroll bar at the bottom ***: fabricius has joined #tikiwiki fabricius: polom jonnyb: polom fabricius and all fabricius: p+ -: fabricius meant moloq and clicked too fast ... ooopss he did it agaiiin ***: Jyhem_laptop has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) fabricius: @ jonnyb getting closer now - nearly 100% ... so it's not entirely unlike notcoming, but once you will not forget your towel you'll make it there finally jonnyb: indeed - going to book a ferry crossing soon, then there's no going back! :)
but have client calling soon - need to finish something (there's always something!) fabricius: want clients aswell :-D
still just in voluntary projects jonnyb: no clients - no ferry (or diesel!) ;) fabricius: will be hard without ferry but with diesel ... would need some empty barrels and a good rope jonnyb: actually not a tiki client - dealing with a horrid huge expensive closed source web app (would be so much easier if i could see the code!) fabricius: and strong arms for 35 km paddling jonnyb: or pedals fabricius: oh yes pedals
will have to seal your car carefully
and need strong legs
perhabs ferry is better
:-D jonnyb: brb fabricius: there is a german saying: "what doesn't cost is nothing worth" - means s.th. like: " customers (aswell privates) do not see any value of the efforts, except they have to pay for it"
juoi - should be away since a while ***: damian has joined #tikiwiki fabricius: c ya CIA-93: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34939 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]structures: received structures generated a null alias .. and alias can be null ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away
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sylvieg? your commit 34939 fixes indeed that issue with receiving structures from tikis (bug 3911)
and same applies to tiki7, and to proposals/6x
I'll commit your fix to 7 and proposals/6.x even if it implies a db change, since that db change fixes a bug
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Does anybody else wrestle with wiki paragraph formatting every few tiki releases? sylvieg: chibaguy: yes
the settings changed... chibaguy: I was surprised this time to find a </div><br /><div> gets produced in html by </div><p>&nbsp;</p></div>
So if paragraphs of text have a bottom margin for nice spacing, a plain new line becomes one line height plus the paragraph bottom margin height, ending up too much white space. sylvieg: change the 2 setting about wiki formatting - and .. one setting will work chibaguy: Hi sylvieg.
I can't find a setting that actually does what I want. ***: lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: The problem is that empty lines are rendered as paragraphs.
which seems like an ugly hack to me.
ah, I see the problem (for me). ::Centered text:: is produced as a div with text-align: center. Then when I make an empty line it is is produced as a pragraph (and gets the standard (in my theme) 24px bottom margin.
So all my consecutive lines of centered text are separated by 24px + 1 text line height (for the &nbsp; inside the paragraph).
Plain lines of wikitext have <br> tags as expected (although they should be <br /> syntax).
I guess I shouldn't use :: ::. sylvieg: in admin->textarea - there is these 2 chackboxes .. wiki oparagraph - but still .... one config will suppress the br chibaguy: Yes, I can suppress the br, but I was getting a paragraph inserted between consecutive lines of centered text. I wasn't trying to make paragraphs. ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: I wonder how to do
::line one::
::line two::
with no extra space between the lines.
It doesn't seem possible anymore with just wiki syntax. ***: Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: chibaguy: how about ::line one%%%line 2::
seems to work on 7.x ***: Bernard1 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out) chibaguy: ok, I'll try that, thanks.
but the extra space between divs is still a problem. ***: Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: oh? i get a single div and a br between the lines chibaguy: With centered text? jonnyb: yup chibaguy: Hmm. jonnyb: i get: <div style="text-align: center;">line one<br />line 2</div> ***: radek82 has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: heh, me too, now that I try two lines in isolation. I initially had them inside a div plugin, and problems arose. CIA-93: tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r34941 10/branches/7.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [bp/r34939][FIX]structures: received structures generated a null alias .. and alias can be null. This bugfix is needed to have the feature to send structures between tikis work again. Thanks sylvieg. ***: nkoth has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: So all my complaining (sorry for that) was in the context of wiki syntax inside a div plugin. CIA-93: tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r34942 10/branches/proposals/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [bp/r34939][FIX]structures: received structures generated a null alias .. and alias can be null. This bugfix is needed to have the feature to send structures between tikis work again. Thanks sylvieg. jonnyb: ah, ok - wonder why it should be different? chibaguy: yeah, I don't know. Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: "HTTP 500 Internal Server Error" when submitting wiki or article pages - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41537 ***: dabright has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Deleting shoutbox postings --> system error - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41538 ***: goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki
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garyps has joined #tikiwiki garyps: hi need some help with adding /lib/prefs files? lphuberdeau: could you detail? garyps: I want to add a new type of {prefs ..} block for template
I added a new file in /prefs with php code
it just causes an error in my tpl when called
do I need to activate or add it somewhere else ***: garyps is now known as garypondstone lphuberdeau: shouldn't be needed garypondstone: I want to add a new setting for a theme that appears on Look&Feel when it is enabled. lphuberdeau: make sure you have no syntax errors in your PHP file garypondstone: It is 6 lines, identical setup to others, no php mistakes lphuberdeau: does your preference prefix match the file name? garypondstone: file and function names also like other /prefs files lphuberdeau: if your pref is named ps_some_setting, it must be in ps.php
can you provide the error message? ***: overseer has joined #tikiwiki garypondstone: ah. it is called prefs_a960GS_list and file is called a960GS.php overseer: Hey guys. Im working with the Fade plugin today. I can't seem to get the icon to show up. Any ideas? garypondstone: I have all tiki logs turned on, haven't checked server yet. I will find ps.php and see, thanks for help. lphuberdeau: no need for ps.php... that was just an example
what's your pref named like?
also, check in your template to see if you don't have some syntax error
oh, and you might need to clear caches jonnyb: bl ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb) garypondstone: ok. I am very new to tiki. my file has a function 'prefs_a960GS_list' returning the array with the name 'column_size' inside it. I put {preference name='column_size'} and that is as far as the admin page loads
if I change to any other tag it is fine.
I was thinking I needed to enable/add the new file I created for a pref's block somewhere else (database or another file?)
I am thinking there is another way to do this since no doc's cover it?
will tiki load all the files in the /lib/prefs automatically, including my new function file? ricks99: @garypondstone: did you see doc http://dev.tiki.org/Creating+New+Preferences garypondstone: That was the doc I was looking for. ty. ricks99: @garypondstone: you might also find http://dev.tiki.org/Hello+World useful, too garypondstone: I was on doc.tiki.org, this is where I should be. Thanks again. ricks99: no problem. doc.t.o is more for end-use, dev.t.o is for development ***: Jyhem_laptop has joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Batch Directory upload issue in Tiki7 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41539 ***: ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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thanks for your suggestions. SJ-Jay: Hey guys, anyone know how to make a button that starts a new article with a specific topic and kategori?
no one? :) garypondstone: everything is beyond me at this point :| lphuberdeau: SJ-Jay, open up firebug's network panel and preview an article
inspect the posted arguments and try setting them in the URL instead SJ-Jay: ok i'll try that :)
wow..
not sure were to look :) lphuberdeau: look for the post request, should be the first of the sequence
most of it afterwards is CSS and images ***: fabricius has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110422050619]) overseer: hey guys, Is there a way to make a link to a user's personal page from the menu at the top of the site? ***: changi|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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SJ-Jay has quit IRC () sylvieg: rodrigo_sampaio: around? do you know if in mediawiki the page names have always _ instead of space?
I do not know if it is one of the setting of the mediawiki I have or if it is generic rodrigo_sampaio: sorry sylvieg, I don't remember sylvieg: ok.. I will patch only for my need
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codyg has joined #tikiwiki codyg: good afternoon and polom to all. {files categId="7"} = No Records Found, except for admin. I am turning grey in my attempts to make this work in a wiki page for any user or group, except admin. upgraded from 7 beta to 7 and it's still not working. I've set permissions galore but no luck. It works on demo.tiki.org. (aaarrrrrggghhhh) What am I missing?
oh my superbuckets, its raining out there!! First offer and I have to come up with a 24 pdf file solution. anyways... i guess the Agent will have to be happy with a jump drive with pdfs. <sigh> I'll keep trying of course, but right now the webpage thingy will have to wait.
Well, I've tried a gazzillion things to get userAgent to view the files he/she needs to download/view. tiki_p_download is checked. so is tiki_p_view_file_gallery... so i just don't get why no records are found. I'm missing something somewhere. I guess I'm going to make 24 + 2 agms .doc files into tiki pages. Wish me luck. ;) ***: codyg has left
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