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[09:55] <Rinaldo> Is there an issue with the website at tiki.org today I login and I get a logout button -- when I change the page I get the login prompt again I have not been to the site for close to five years
[10:07] <Merbster> Rinaldo, I see no issues as of now?
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[10:27] <Rinaldo> OK thanks
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[10:28] <Rinaldo> I am teaching a course this year I used to use tiki for Continuos Integration at Sun Microsystems great technology. I am having some issues with how the new version works. I used to use the list plugin to display forums on a page it is no longer working the way I used to do it
[10:31] <SJ-Jay> what is it exactly u want?
[10:31] <Rinaldo> {LIST()}{filter categories="dps2014"} {LIST} 
[10:31] <SJ-Jay> show forum posts on a page?
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[10:31] <Rinaldo> is not returning any data
[10:31] <Merbster> Rinaldo, I think categories should be a list of delimited category IDS not text.
[10:31] <Rinaldo> oh how stupid on my part
[10:31] <SJ-Jay> merbster 100 pts :D
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[10:32] <Rinaldo> the examples was so clear
[10:32] <Merbster> Rinaldo, No worries, not all Tiki docs are exactly straight forward :P
[10:32] <Rinaldo> right that is why there were numbers in there I had thought someone was using the 1 as a category name
[10:33] <Rinaldo> My concern is that if I give soem of this powert to students they will not get it it is a very powerful wiki
[10:33] <Merbster> Rinaldo, what kind of students are we talking?
[10:33] <Rinaldo> post graduate
[10:33] <Merbster> yes but in what field :P
[10:33] <Rinaldo> Computing
[10:33] <Merbster> THey should get it fairly quick I'd say
[10:34] <Rinaldo> I just an't stadn these wikis that do not have sophistication
[10:34] <Rinaldo> where everyone copies and pastes the same content
[10:34] <Merbster> I would say Tiki is so much more than just a Wiki
[10:34] <Merbster> SJ-Jay, and me are basing a company intranet on it.
[10:35] <Rinaldo> I know I used it to build Sun Grid
[10:35] <Rinaldo> a clodu computing platform that predated amazon
[10:35] <Rinaldo> it was a tremendous aid -- before hudson/jenkins existed I put all the artifacts from builds into it
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[10:52] <Merbster> Rinaldo I am not familiar with much of Suns tech. most companies in denmark are too small. (only SOHO level compared to US standards)
[10:55] <Rinaldo> Not important
[10:55] <Rinaldo> Does anyone know of a two column theme  
[10:55] <Rinaldo> Two 
[10:57] <Merbster> Rinaldo, can't you just disable one of the bars?
[11:12] <Rinaldo> Is it in the module config or I do I need to do it with css
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[11:18] <Merbster> Rinaldo, I would expect it to be in Admin->Look & feel
[11:18] <Merbster> Rinaldo, I have not used this functionality myself thogh
[11:32] <Rinaldo> Have to file a bug seems like th enew module interface it does wrn you that it is experimental doesn't allow a category to be removed. I added a category and I can't  delete it no matter what I do it goes back to the top bar.
[11:38] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Permission to move files requires File Galleries Admin access? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42276
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[11:53] <ricks99> polom y'all
[11:55] <SJ-Jay> polom ricks99 
[11:55] <Merbster> hey ricks99 
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[11:55] <talin> hello, and spello. i am trying to export a bunch of pages to XML
[11:56] <ricks99> hiya guys. will have something to send to you in a bit
[11:56] <talin> but when i make it list all of my pages, check all and select perform action XML Zip, it only makes a zip-file iwth like the first 10 pages
[11:56] <SJ-Jay> noce!
[11:56] <SJ-Jay> nice*
[12:00] <ricks99> @talin: what tiki version are you using?
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[12:02] <talin> ricks99: trying to figure out where i can check that
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[12:03] <ricks99> talin: Admin > General page
[12:03] <talin> ricks99: thank you. it says 4.2
[12:04] <ricks99> wow. very old (and no longer supported). suggest either upgrading to current 6.4 LTS or 7.1 and retrying. i don't even think 4.x has any error reporting options that would help pinpoint the issue
[12:04] <ricks99> talin: see tiki.org/download for details
[12:05] <Tiki|bot>  Info: Upcoming TikiFests - http://info.tiki.org/article174-Upcoming-TikiFests
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[12:06] <RobertPlummer> polom all
[12:07] <ricks99> bolow
[12:08] <Merbster> 'lo :)
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[12:08] <RobertPlummer> So guys, I got some work done on tracker query lib to push it more of an "api" for hooking into.
[12:08] <Merbster> Sounds nice :)
[12:08] <RobertPlummer> Still some work needs done
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[12:09] <Merbster> RobertPlummer, did you commit those changes to trunk?
[12:09] <RobertPlummer> example: TrackerQueryLib::tracker("tracker name or id")->byName()->fields(array())->query()
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[12:09] <RobertPlummer> Not yet, I can if you'd like to help me track down some bugs.
[12:17] <Merbster> RobertPlummer, I don't know if I am daring enough to use the new code (I know that the current one does what I need atm).
[12:17] <Merbster> I'd still like to see the implkementation because I was thinking about the way you call those methods (jquery style I will dub them)
[12:18] <RobertPlummer> lol
[12:18] <RobertPlummer> Probably ok to call it that.
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[12:25] <Merbster> RobertPlummer, are you just returning $this by reference in all the functions?
[12:25] <RobertPlummer> Yup
[12:29] <Merbster> Why is the page with information about the next tiki fest, written in french?
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[12:48] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37402 10/trunk/ (lib/tikiaccesslib.php tiki-admin_categories.php): [ENH]categories: be able to admin the categories you are admin wihtout having to have a global tiki_p_admin_categories
[12:56] <chealer> Merbster: it's multilingual. the language can be changed at the top
[12:56] <Merbster> chealer, says no translation exists for this page
[12:58] <SJ-Jay> ricks99, u there? :)
[12:59] <chealer> Merbster: the next TikiFest meaning the one in Sherbrooke?
[12:59] <Merbster> yes
[13:00] <chealer> Merbster: I changed the language property of the page. it is actually in French. there is no English version of the page
[13:00] <RobertPlummer> Merbster: Lookout, commit comming.
[13:00] <Merbster> chealer, ok. 
[13:01] <Merbster> RobertPlummer, nice :)
[13:02] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37403 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Reworked how tracker query lib works, it is now using selectable attributes rather than function callable, example:TrackerQueryLib::tracker("name or id")
[13:03] <RobertPlummer> Woops didn't mean to commit those other files at the same time, ouch
[13:03] <RobertPlummer> I pressed shift enter, thinking it'd give me a line break, instead it gave me a commit.
[13:06] <RobertPlummer> Off to clean up the implosion...
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[13:11] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37404 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Catch the smarty exception when compiling fails to provide better feedback.
[13:11] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r37405 10/third_party/smarty3/ (10 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[13:12] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: [UPDATE] ===== Smarty 3.0.9 =====
[13:12] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 27/07/2011
[13:12] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: - bugfix subtemplate could use wrong varibale scope when it was recalled from
[13:12] <CIA-12> tikiwiki:  different templates
[13:12] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 26/07/2011
[13:12] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: - bugfix experimental getTags() method did not work
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[13:17] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37406 10/trunk/lib/ (sheet/grid.php trackers/trackerquerylib.php): 
[13:17] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: [FIX] Added static to function "tracker"
[13:17] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: [FIX] Brought jquery sheet grid back online from overhaul of trackerquerylib
[13:18] <lphuberdeau> amette, grats on getting the pirate party to parliment in Berlin
[13:28] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37407 10/branches/7.x/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: escape
[13:29] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37408 10/trunk/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: [merge/r 37407]escape
[13:33] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37409 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: [bp/r37408]escape
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[13:48] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37410 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Definition.php: [ENH] Brought fields as ids feature to a different function, simplified existing
[13:52] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37411 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Catch more exceptions, smarty can mess up in different ways
[13:54] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37412 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Brought tracker query lib back online from Tracker Definition change
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[14:22] <chealer> polom
[14:34] <lphuberdeau> gosh, the field permissions are convoluted
[14:34] <lphuberdeau> isHidden controls editability
[14:34] <lphuberdeau> Editable by tracker administrator and creator only, who can view that?
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[14:54] <sylvieg1> lphuberdeau: I think everybody can see but only admin and creator can see
[14:54] <sylvieg1> sorry
[14:54] <sylvieg1> last see is edit
[14:54] <RobertPlummer> chealer: polom
[14:56] <chealer> good morning RobertPlummer
[15:00] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37413 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.money_format.php: [REF] locales are set in tiki-setup.php from r37006
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[15:14] <Merbster> Does the edit tracker items UI not support categorizing the individual items? or do you have to do that through trackerplugin params?
[15:14] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37414 10/trunk/ (3 files): [FIX] tracker query lib dependency fixes
[15:21] <lphuberdeau> Merbster, you need to use the category tracker field, or use other means of categorization
[15:21] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, great, thank you
[15:28] <sylvieg1> chealer: this is true - about your comment about the commit for tiki_p_admin_categories
[15:28] <sylvieg1> ... if I have tiki_p_admin_categories acn I loose this perms if the object has special eprms?
[15:28] <sylvieg1> This is truwe for non admin perm ... but for admin perm I am confused
[15:29] <sylvieg1> lphuberdeau: if Perms::get('','') behaves correctly? and is fast
[15:29] <lphuberdeau> hum, what do you expect from that?
[15:29] <sylvieg1> sorry Perms::get('category', '')
[15:30] <lphuberdeau> that will always give global perms with no id provided
[15:30] <sylvieg1> and is it fast?
[15:36] <lphuberdeau> define fast?
[15:36] <changi|away> lphuberdeau: you've got a mail
[15:37] <lphuberdeau> sylvieg, with no id provided, it's a cycle slower than just asking for the global one directly, but it won't make it "slow"
[15:38] <lphuberdeau> changi: that seems to be the expected result
[15:39] <chealer> hi sylvieg1. sorry, could you rephrase that?
[15:40] <changi|away> lphuberdeau: it's a menu
[15:41] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37415 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Centralize the per-field permission checks
[15:41] <lphuberdeau> changi: the error you see means that there is a smarty syntax error
[15:41] <sylvieg1> my question are teh admin perms behaving the same way that other perms... Can I loose my admin_xxxx perm on an object if I am not an admin?
[15:42] <changi|away> lphuberdeau: how can a menu have a smarty error ? 
[15:42] <sylvieg1> .. is very tempted to use only lph routine Perms::get only
[15:42] <lphuberdeau> changi: menus are weird, I just made sure the error did not crash the whole site
[15:43] <chealer> changi|away: it's a user module
[15:43] <lphuberdeau> sylvieg: tiki_p_admin_categories is defined to have a global scope, so it can't be overridden per object
[15:43] <lphuberdeau> at least, not in trunk
[15:44] <sylvieg1> and a tiki_p_admin_trackers?
[15:44] <chealer> sylvieg1: in general, yes, but then permissions are not too consistent
[15:44] <lphuberdeau> object scope
[15:44] <changi|away> chealer: it seems to be a custom module with some perspective
[15:44] <lphuberdeau> just check the definitions in userlib
[15:45] <chealer> changi|away: possible (I have no system access)
[15:46] <changi|away> chealer: i've just send the custom module code
[15:47] <changi|away> on the devel lits
[15:47] <changi|away> s/lits/list/
[15:48] <lphuberdeau> ouch, module within module, you're calling for trouble
[15:48] <Merbster> I have bad experience with modules in modules
[15:48] <Merbster> and I tend to avoid it
[15:49] <lphuberdeau> success depends on planatary alignments more than anything as you get a bunch of global variables getting overwritten
[15:50] <Merbster> nice comparison lphuberdeau :)
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[15:50] <lphuberdeau> but I think the crash is caused by img src=pics/icons/information.png alt="Note"} 
[15:50] <lphuberdeau> no quotes around the path, which is one of the smarty 3 subtleties
[15:52] <chealer> changi|away: thanks. I'm unable to login - "Erreur XMLRPC : 101 - Clé du serveur invalide"
[15:52] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37416 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX]perms: respect order object perms then global perms: thx chealer - wondering if the best is not to user Perms:get('','') to be sure to have the same behavior
[15:53] <changi|away> chealer: yes because of moving from on server to another
[15:55] <chealer> changi|away: yes, I mean thanks for unassigning the module, I can now see the site as anonymous and would try reducing to a test case, but can't login...
[15:55] <changi|away> i'm modifing the api key, i don't know how much time the server need to take the new one
[15:58] <lphuberdeau> sylvieg, chealer: in trunk, the permission checking is smarter and knows what is global and what is per object, and per-object means you override the global, that is expected
[15:58] <lphuberdeau> you can have global admin trackers, but not on a specific one, that's a good behavior, but it may be different from what used to happen
[15:58] <sylvieg1> so I can call only Perms:get($objectType, $objectId) ?
[15:59] <lphuberdeau> yes
[15:59] <sylvieg1> ok Thx a lot
[16:01] <chealer> lphuberdeau: so if you ask for a permissions on an object but the permission isn't per-object, the global value is returned?
[16:01] <lphuberdeau> ues
[16:01] <lphuberdeau> yes
[16:01] <lphuberdeau> pretty sure I sent a mail about this around 4 months ago
[16:02] <chealer> good
[16:02] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37417 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX]perms: better to use only the perms layer: thx lph
[16:03] <changi|away> lphuberdeau: i fixed the double quote, but nothing has changed
[16:03] <changi|away> see ya all
[16:04] <changi|away> need to go
[16:04] <changi|away> more tomorrow
[16:04] <lphuberdeau> cleared cache and all?
[16:04] <changi|away> yep
[16:08] <lphuberdeau> really can't say remotely
[16:08] * lphuberdeau is still satisfied smarty errors in modules no longer crash tiki
[16:08] <sylvieg1> thx lphuberdeau
[16:12] <chealer> sylvieg1: thanks, that's better
[16:12] <chealer> sylvieg1: small problem - the form to create categories is shown even if you can't
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[16:14] <sylvieg1> btw thx chealer: you avoid a security hole :-)
[16:15] <sylvieg1> .. if you are admin for a categ you shpould be able to create a categ under
[16:15] <RobertPlummer> lphuberdeau: Any way to send user params via http authentication?
[16:15] <lphuberdeau> user params?
[16:15] <RobertPlummer> anything that has to do with their user name
[16:15] <RobertPlummer> groups, perms, anything
[16:15] <RobertPlummer> params = general
[16:16] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37418 10/trunk/ (css/admin.css templates/admin/include_list_sections.tpl): [FIX] admin: Make the admin buttons a tiny bit smaller so you get 5 across in standard fixed width (as default). Also centre them a little better.
[16:16] <lphuberdeau> you want to return the user's info?
[16:16] <chealer> sylvieg1: I agree. apparently that's not the case currently though
[16:17] <lphuberdeau> category creation by non-global admin was not implemented
[16:17] <lphuberdeau> so the check may not be accurate
[16:17] <chealer> sylvieg1: the problem is the interface shows Top to create a category currently, even if you don't have global tiki_p_admin_categories
[16:18] <chealer> you need that to create a root category
[16:18] <RobertPlummer> lphuberdeau: The goal is to bring user info to bluebox for sip/xmpp login, no way of doing that as of now?
[16:18] <chealer> sylvieg1: two solutions - 1. revert your commit 2. check permission for Top
[16:19] <sylvieg1> heeh because I forgot to commit one file
[16:20] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37419 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_categories.tpl: [FIX]missing to 37402
[16:20] <lphuberdeau> RobertPlummer, you can write a service for that in lib/core/Services/User/Controller.php
[16:20] <sylvieg1> thx chealer: I really need to be more careful
[16:21] <RobertPlummer> lphuberdeau: That sounds like what we want to do.
[16:21] <RobertPlummer> lphuberdeau: Marc will be joining us shortly with questions.
[16:21] <lphuberdeau> just make sure you only return the current user's info or check the admin user permission
[16:22] <lphuberdeau> some of that stuff may be sensitive
[16:22] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37420 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: 
[16:22] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: check_permission(): reformat
[16:22] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: [FIX] Colons inside translated strings
[16:25] <chealer> OK sylvieg1, thanks. now the only thing is the interface shouldn't offer to add a category if no parent can be selected (and the user can't create a new root category)
[16:31] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37421 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] clutips: Shorter delay before clutip appears. Apparently people weren't waiting long enough (thanks marclaporte)
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[16:41] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37422 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Deploy the field permission changes to the tracker plugin
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[16:54] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37423 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] jquery_ui: More suitable default ui theme to match fivealive better
[16:57] <amette> lphuberdeau: Thanks, mate! :)
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[17:28] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37424 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Deploy tracker permission changes to tiki-view_tracker.php
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[17:55] <sylvieg> do we have a function to duplicate permissions of an object
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[17:58] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37425 10/trunk/tiki-view_invoice.php: [FIX] removed tracker query lib as var
[17:58] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37426 10/trunk/ (tiki-tracker_export_join.php tiki-tracker_reports.php): [FIX] Fixed tracker reports for new changes in tracker query lib
[18:08] <sylvieg> found it copy_object_permissions
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[18:11] <lphuberdeau> arildb, are you around?
[18:13] * lphuberdeau checks out the innodb branch
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[18:18] <arildb> lphuberdeau: Yes, I am here
[18:18] <lphuberdeau> checking out the branch now, I might have a few questions/comments for you
[18:19] <arildb> lphuberdeau: ok
[18:20] <lphuberdeau> actually updating the branch so I can see the changes
[18:24] <arildb> lphuberdeau: Thanks for checking it out. I am a bit back and forth from the computer. So, if my replies come a bit slow, you know the reason...
[18:30] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37427 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX]categ: if not tiki_p_admin_categories and see no categ, goto perm denied + duplicated the perms when creating a category and non admin_categories (to see it) + do not show perm icon if non admin_catwegories
[18:31] <chealer> RobertPlummer: is TrackerQueryLib special? why "TikiLib::lib("trkqry"); $trkqrylib = new TrackerQueryLib();" rather than "$trkqrylib = TikiLib::lib("trkqry");" ?
[18:32] <RobertPlummer> No, just bad coding, I will have it back to normal in a min.
[18:33] <RobertPlummer> Thanks chealer
[18:33] <chealer> OK
[18:35] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37428 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Reverted new tracker query lib call
[18:36] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37429 10/branches/experimental/innodb/ (67 files in 28 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 37368 to 37426
[18:36] <RobertPlummer> chealer, can you take a look at that code I committed?
[18:37] <RobertPlummer> can I have a static and non-static method that have the same name in php?
[18:37] <lphuberdeau> even if you can, don't
[18:38] <RobertPlummer> lphuberdeau: lol thanks
[18:39] <RobertPlummer> why not though if you mind me asking?
[18:39] <chealer> RobertPlummer: r37428 is good, thanks
[18:45] <RobertPlummer> Hey guys, where do tests go?
[18:45] <RobertPlummer> for instance, tests for parser lib
[18:48] <lphuberdeau> arildb, to be used elsewhere, don't you think those inspection utilities to get the engines and such should be in TikiDb?
[18:49] <lphuberdeau> alrildb, also, for future considerations, I would use a string match ('myisam' or 'innodb') rather than a boolean flag
[18:49] <arildb> lphuberdeau: Yes, TikiDb would probably be a good place. I have also duplicated a couple of functions (Installer and prefs). Maybe moving them to TikiDb will resolve that
[18:50] <lphuberdeau> most likely
[18:51] <arildb> string match...I don't see the context, but I have intentionally made it boolean some place. So, rule changes can be made.
[18:52] <RobertPlummer> Merbster, get a chance to use the new tracker query lib?
[18:52] <lphuberdeau> well, it's just that if this extends to other engines, the boolean is a bad pattern to start with
[18:53] <chealer> thanks sylvieg
[18:53] <arildb> lphuberdeau: why?
[18:53] <lphuberdeau> multiple booleans cause messy conditions
[18:54] <lphuberdeau> if you keep the target engine internally as a string, it's easier to add more engine variants
[18:54] <lphuberdeau> you can also remove some conditionals
[18:54] <sylvieg> chealer: thanks for your tests
[18:55] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37430 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX] typo
[18:55] <lphuberdeau> for example, check if "tiki_$engine.sql" exists and running it
[18:55] <arildb> unrelated, but fyi. demo.tiki.org the MySQL installation behaves differently than on my local. SHOW TABLE STATUS LIKE ? works both places, but SHOW TABLE STATUS WHERE name = ? only works locally and not on the demo machine. Should be valid MySQL syntax. Any idea?
[18:57] <lphuberdeau> different mysql versions
[18:57] <lphuberdeau> the one on demo is quite old unless I am mistaken
[18:57] <arildb> ok
[18:59] <lphuberdeau> otherwise, it looks good
[18:59] <lphuberdeau> I'd just like to see the utilities move to TikiDb, then I think we're good to merge
[18:59] <arildb> sounds good
[18:59] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37431 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: 
[18:59] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: [MOD] Use the <h#> style attribute to center headings instead of a nested <div>.
[18:59] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: This improves how numbered and centered headings are displayed and simplifies the implementation of the Visual Wiki.
[18:59] <lphuberdeau> I'll deal with the dynamic preference stuff after the merge
[19:00] <lphuberdeau> it's really not critical as the engine remains experimental
[19:00] <arildb> There is one thing pending. If you do a config search for "search", the "MySQL fulltext search" still appears. It shouldn't 
[19:00] <lphuberdeau> I did not try running the code, you get most of tiki running fine?
[19:00] <lphuberdeau> arildb, that might just be the index being out of date
[19:01] <lphuberdeau> how do you block it?
[19:01] <arildb> I believe I have tested most scenarios, including the updates. About the seacrh result: No, I make an explcit check in the search panel. No such check in the search. You checking dynamic preferences should hopefully solve it
[19:02] <lphuberdeau> ok, so it does not do anything because you did not try to get it to do anything ;)
[19:03] <arildb> right :-) ...pending. I am not really sure where to look. Good if you could integrate dynamic preferences.
[19:03] <arildb> As long as you are here, I have another question
[19:03] <lphuberdeau> good work
[19:03] <lphuberdeau> sure
[19:04] <arildb> I have made some reports on "Add Comment" priveleges and how they seem to ignore category privileges. Only global privileges (and object I presume) works for the pos_comment right. Any idea why?
[19:05] <arildb> I am working on a project where limiting comments is an issue
[19:06] <lphuberdeau> working with trunk?
[19:06] <lphuberdeau> I actually have that bug report open right now
[19:06] <lphuberdeau> but have not looked into it
[19:06] <arildb> I have tested with 6.x, 7.x and 8.0 SVN and they all have the same problem
[19:06] <lphuberdeau> I would only expect 8 to be different
[19:06] <arildb> I did the last test a few days ago
[19:07] <lphuberdeau> 6 and 7 are supposed to use global permissions
[19:07] <lphuberdeau> so this is about posting comments?
[19:07] <arildb> yes, it only seems to apply for posting comments
[19:08] <lphuberdeau> comment permissions still have global scope
[19:08] <arildb> ok. A bit confusing, since the GUI allows category permissions to be set
[19:09] <lphuberdeau> really? in 8?
[19:09] <arildb> last time i CHECKED, YES
[19:10] <lphuberdeau> let me look into tht for you
[19:10] <arildb> thanks
[19:11] <lphuberdeau> hmm... someone must have undone one of my changes
[19:17] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37432 10/trunk/lib/test/editlib/ (ParseToWiki_TextTest.php ParseToWysiwyg_TextTest.php): [ENH] More tests for EditLib (need to fix numbered and centerd headings)
[19:22] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37433 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX] Perm type for category is category, not all, meaning that only permissions that can actually be assigned to a category will be listed
[19:22] <lphuberdeau> ok, so that should fix the listing
[19:23] <arildb> already!...great, I will check oit out
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[19:28] <Caarrie|away> http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-tracker_rss.php?trackerId=5 is giving error "Fatal error: Call to a member function renderOutput() on a non-object in /home/two/dev/tiki-tracker_rss.php on line 109" causing the bot to not give your updates
[19:30] <lphuberdeau> fixing the permissions now, won't take long
[19:31] <arildb> :-)
[19:32] <lphuberdeau> for the listing, it was just the link that was wrong
[19:32] <lphuberdeau> (however, the link building should not affect that, but that's the way it was coded)
[19:34] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37434 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] Make the comment permissions available for object and category scope, rest of the code already supports it
[19:34] <lphuberdeau> done, make sure you flush your cache
[19:34] <arildb> thanks, I will do a check now
[19:36] <arildb> Q: Why do you limit the scope on some permission types, especially the onces that (can) apply to wiki pages?
[19:36] <lphuberdeau> I didn't really do much testing, it's just a matter of permission configuration
[19:36] <lphuberdeau> sometimes the checks are only made globally
[19:37] <lphuberdeau> normally, you would need more code changes to enable object permissions, but I made a ton of changes to comments a few weeks back and object permissions just had to be flipped on
[19:37] <lphuberdeau> the major change between 7 & 8 is that tiki no longer lies about what it can do
[19:38] <RobertPlummer> lol
[19:38] <arildb> no more lying ..sounds good!
[19:38] <RobertPlummer> I don't know, sounds too honest.
[19:38] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37435 10/trunk/lib/ (test/editlib/ParseToWiki_TextTest.php wiki/editlib.php): [FIX] Visual Wiki: centerd and numberd headings were not converted correctly (the number was not replaces with a #)
[19:39] <lphuberdeau> in the past, it would list all permissions as applicable to categories, which just isn't true
[19:39] <lphuberdeau> now if a permission appears there, it has all the code required to apply in a smart way, unless a programmer lied
[19:39] <arildb> this will solve lots of frustration...
[19:40] <lphuberdeau> if you check the object permissions, you'll also see comment permissions there
[19:54] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37436 10/trunk/lib/test/editlib/ParseToWiki_CharacterTest.php: [ENH] Testing of EditLib (test linebreaks within color markup)
[19:54] <arildb> lphuberdeau: I did a test, and it failed. My database is not fresh though. Remnents of a test I did remains. The test was: Assign all privileges globally to all including anonymous. Then create a category and revole all previleges from anonymous. Strange results....
[19:55] <lphuberdeau> did you clear cache?
[19:55] <arildb> yes
[19:56] <lphuberdeau> alright alright, I'll do an actual test
[19:57] <coaboa> is there a way to export a tracker with its fields / fieldtypes? export just has field names and Ids, quickExport jast has the fieldnames and items? ref. trunk.
[19:58] <lphuberdeau> coaboa, go under admin fields, export is in the dropdown
[20:00] <coaboa> on cool, somewhat hidden though ;-)
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[20:02] <arildb> lphuberdeau: looks better on a not-so-messed-up database
[20:02] <lphuberdeau> arildb, seems to work
[20:02] <lphuberdeau> the Comments like still shows up on the page, but clicking it fails and the console shows a 403 as I would expect
[20:03] <arildb> lphuberdeau: looks ok on my cleaner database. I will test a little more
[20:03] <lphuberdeau> granting view to anonymous and not post (from category) gives me exactly what I expect to see
[20:04] <lphuberdeau> it might just be some permission leftovers around on your test db
[20:05] <arildb> try to grant all right globally to anonymous, then revoke them for anonymous for a category. Assign a page to that category and try to access the page as anonymous
[20:05] <arildb> could be
[20:05] <lphuberdeau> that's exactly my test right now
[20:05] <arildb> I did the same test before, but then all permissions were visible
[20:05] <lphuberdeau> without admin comments
[20:06] <lphuberdeau> yeah, before those permissions were global-only
[20:06] <arildb> I will reset the database and do the same test again
[20:13] <arildb> lphuberdeau: Now that's strange. Did the test assign all and revoke all from anonymous for a category. Strangely enough, the Comment button is not displayed, but as an anonymous user, I can see all(?) other commands on the test page
[20:13] <arildb> Since viewing also was revoked, I should not see the page at all
[20:14] <lphuberdeau> viewing on the page?
[20:15] <arildb> Yes, as anonymous I can view the page and most commands are present
[20:15] <arildb> the save failed, when I actually tried to save an update. However, I can see the edit button
[20:17] <lphuberdeau> strange
[20:17] <arildb> rename went through. Can see the history. Assign permissions also seemed to work
[20:17] <lphuberdeau> do you have admin_wiki granted?
[20:17] <lphuberdeau> that one might be global and it's in the pre-check
[20:17] <arildb> Let me check
[20:18] <arildb> tiki_p_admin_wiki is assigned globally, yes
[20:18] <arildb> Let me uncheck that perm and try again
[20:19] <arildb> cleared the cache. Still the same result
[20:21] <arildb> tiki_p_admin_wiki is revoked from anonymous at category level too
[20:21] <lphuberdeau> found something fishy
[20:22] <arildb> ok?
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[20:35] <philback> polom
[20:35] <philback> Question: I am trying to list all members of a group along with their pictures (ala Facebook). Any idea on how to do this the easy way?
[20:37] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37437 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] applyPermissions for wiki render was mostly broken
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[20:55] <arildb> lphuberdeau: I integrated your latest update r37437. tiki_p_admin_wiki is not set for anonymous at global leve. Cleared the cache. Still the same result. Can see the page and most commands
[20:55] <coaboa> gn
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[20:58] <arildb> btw. The failure when actually saving (as anonymous) I mentioned above, was probably caused by me not entering the capcha code. Now that I did I can save fine..even without any permissions to the category the page is assigned to
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[21:43] <arildb> lphuberdeau: are you still here?
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[21:57] <fabricius> polom
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[22:28] <luciash_> fabricius: hi
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[22:34] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37438 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[22:34] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: [ENH]menu: add a class for non cssmenu to be able to style with css and not only
[22:34] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: with jq + indent the the submenus for a structure menu to avoid confusion of
[22:34] <CIA-12> tikiwiki: sublevel + todo: indent also menu that have more than 3 levels or are complex
[22:44] <fabricius> hi luciash 
[22:44] <fabricius> how r u?
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[23:03] <luciash> hi, fine, tks
[23:04] <luciash> just discovered dan&dan on youtube :-p
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[23:22] <fabricius> luciash: it's funny or interesting?
[23:22] <fabricius> have a link?
[23:28] <luciash> hiraliously funny
[23:28] <luciash> or hilariously, even :D
[23:29] <luciash> here's "their" channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/dananddanfilms
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[23:58] <fabricius> luciash:  it is funny
[23:58] <fabricius> jaffa cakes