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chealer: nkoth|nelson: non-UTF-8 en_US does not help?
nkoth|nelson: chealer, no any locale sort ignores punctuation. php has a collation class in 5.3 that can set the rules to ignore certain things or not, but undortunately I am not in 5.3
<br> it'll be nice that we can use that if 5.3 though
chealer: nkoth|nelson: even C?
nkoth|nelson: C works but does not take into account accent
chealer: (non-UTF-8 C)
nkoth|nelson: C takes into acccount punctuation but not accent...
<br> in the meantime I hack back into my copy of tiki uksort by a function that use take_away_accent
<br> I suppose the proper solution is to upgrade to php 5.3 and use the collation object
<br> I mean the collator class: http://php.net/manual/en/class.collator.php
<br> chealer, do you think this should be an optional feature until tiki 9 (php5.3)?
chealer: nkoth|nelson: do you have root access?
nkoth|nelson: yes
chealer: nkoth|nelson: could you try generating C.UTF-8? It seems to work here
nkoth|nelson: ok sure, how to generate that?
chealer: nkoth|nelson: I know the Debian way (# dpkg-reconfigure locales) but no idea about the CentOS way
<br> nkoth|nelson: see locale-gen and /etc/locale.gen
nkoth|nelson: i have to try later. have to eat
oeversetten: natively it should be locale-gen
chealer: nkoth|nelson: interesting. the other problem with Collator is that it is part of the intl extension
<br> nkoth|nelson: if what should be an optional feature? using Collator?
nkoth|nelson: I was thinking the take_away_accent version
<br> which for some reason is still not giving me the result I expect
<br> it's closer, but for some reason [ sorts before a
chealer: nkoth|nelson: try also commenting the setlocale LC_ALL
<br> or to set LC_COLLATE to C
<br> nkoth|nelson: I don't think Tiki 9 can depend on Collator, Tiki 9 won't require PHP 5.3 and I'm not sure we can really depend on the intl extension
nkoth|nelson: k
chealer: nkoth|nelson: C does not give a good sort in non-English-only environments, so I don't think we should use it by default and in that case take_away_accent() won't help
<br> (with your sort overriding)
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nkoth|nelson: it is closer than using any version of locale sort
chealer: nkoth|nelson: OK, maybe categories should optionally use locale sort and use take_away_accent(). I have no idea of how many installs want specific sorts of categories
<br> s/optionally use/optionally not use/
<br> that is, maybe that would be better than what we currently have
nkoth|nelson: i think locale sort can be the default
<br> and takeawayaccent sort as an option.
<br> Let me try to get my overriding done and I will commi tth eoption
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nkoth|nelson: becaue I rememebr [ used to work before - something must have changed
<br> I clearly used - to make it go on top and [ to make it go at the end
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<br> tikiwiki: [TRA] just wanted to see, how 100% looks like :)
<br> tikiwiki: -- Diese und diek folgenden Zeilen werden ignoriert --
<br> tikiwiki: M de/language.php
chealer: <u>oeversetten</u>: I think you're doing something wrong when you commit, your commit messages contain the line which I think says anything below that line will be ignored
<br> <u>oeversetten</u>: you must be using svn on the command line?
oeversetten: yes i do
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oeversetten: and i have to figure out how to change the editor
<br> that joe editor is weird
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chealer: <u>oeversetten</u>: if you're on Debian, it's easy
nkoth|nelson: <u>chealer</u>: ok i have what I need , now to make the feature option and I can commit it
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nkoth|nelson: chealer. are you sure punctuation is considered when ising C.UTF-8?
chealer: nkoth|nelson: I really don't know much how various locales collate, but in C.UTF-8 punctuation appears to have a good precedence
nkoth|nelson: ok
<br> <u>chealer</u>: what does http://ido.ath.cx:8080 have? because the accented A is at the end
<br> moreover ,the lower case starting ones come after the uper case ones, so looks like it is just C right now
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chealer: nkoth|nelson: good question. I noticed the sort is weird
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chealer: it should be C.UTF-8
nkoth|nelson: well then it's not taking effect to sort in case insensitive or accents
<br> anyway, I will commit my feature first
chealer: nkoth|nelson: yeah, it's C.UTF-8
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<br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37860 10/trunk/lib/prefs/category.php: Admin categories: Clarify the purpose of category_sort_ascii
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<br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37863 10/trunk/lib/tree/categ_browse_tree.php: [REF] CatBrowseTreeMaker: remove itemID (appears unused from r35336)
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coaboa|afk: hi & polom tikiverse
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oeversetten: polom
coaboa: hi oeverstetten: how would I activte your areas feature?
oeversetten: feature admin panel or areas admin panel
<br> on the latter one I add a short how to setup remarksbox
<br> uh, and since i did not tag it, you have to check Advanced in the feature filter to see it
philback: polom
<br> what's the area feature?
Bernard1: hi all
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oeversetten: <u>philback</u>: the areas feature is the built-in version from what is aka perspective_binder
philback: mmmh, I am not using these... will have a look to expand my horizons.
oeversetten: see http://dev.tiki.org/item3974-3974&highlight=areas for a short description, if i find the time i'll try to refresh the documentation on it
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philback: @oversetten Oookay. Doesn't tell me much. Thx anyway.
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coaboa: is v8 frozen? Is there alredy a new trunk?
oeversetten: don't know
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oeversetten: now, it interests me, too, is branching already in progress?
coaboa: some dev list mails stated something like now as branching is done...
oeversetten: so no commit till tomorrow?
coaboa: but on dev.tiki.org/get+code is trunk still future 8
<br> no idea, chealer should know this
oeversetten: the schedule says "as late in the day as possible" referring to today, so something like 11pm but in which timezone :D
Bernard1: <u>oeversetten</u>: i hope it is US :)
<br> Title for the module "sitemycode" with trunk using "notitle=y" is not working for me, same setting is ok with tw6 and tw7. anyone has that too ?
oeversetten: which US?
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Bernard1: <u>oeversetten</u>: well anyway −7hours from us. ;)
oeversetten: would be fine, so I can ask for a further commit, that I have unfortunately done for 7.x only... and would like to see it in 8, too
Bernard1: -7h is hope. i have some work to do too before commiting
oeversetten: i found my commit to 7.x so i just have to see what i have changed there :)
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oeversetten: can you shortly test if pretty registration tracker works in trunk?
Bernard1: <u>oeversetten</u>: sorry but really running out of time here...
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oeversetten: tiki trunk behaves odd at registration
<br> *shortly before adding enhancement analogue to r37532*
CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37867 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] see r37532 now in trunk
chealer: polom
coaboa: polom
Bernard1: polom
coaboa: is the category browser broken in trunk?
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CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37868 10/trunk/lang/he/language.js: [FIX]Hebrew language translation completed
<br> tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37869 10/trunk/styles/BiDi/BiDi.css: [FIX]Wide fix for BiDi to handle rtl languages
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chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: it shouldn't be, but I played around that yesterday... could be
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coaboa: <u>chealer</u>: its after activating the feature areas. importing a database dump from bofore activating that fature fixed the issue
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chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: I see...
coaboa: also activating araes caused to inifinitely be asked to fix database by rerun the installe (excecuted 5 queries)
<br> *areas
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coaboa: chealer just realizet i a wrong: going back to revision 37854 - category browser worked. r37866 category browser does not work
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chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: odd, the areas patch worked fine here
<br> <u>coaboa</u>: does refreshing browser cache help?
coaboa: nope. but myabe its one of the others. rollback also changed tree/tree.php & tree/categ_browse_tree.php
<br> but as I am no coder I can not investigate further
chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: well, identifying a precise revision always helps
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CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37871 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_timeline.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [NEW] timeline plugin: Simpler plugin for Simile timeline which gets it's data
<br> tikiwiki: from various types of object lists with one or two date type fields, e.g. the
<br> tikiwiki: output from a {list} plugin or calendar list, etc. Data connections still to do
<br> tikiwiki: (not yet functional).
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CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37872 10/trunk/ (13 files in 6 dirs):
<br> tikiwiki: [REF] Generalize CatBrowseTreeMaker to BrowseTreeMaker
<br> tikiwiki: [REF] FileGalLib: rename getTreePhplayers() to getTree and getFilegalsTreePhplayers() to getFilegalsTree
<br> tikiwiki: [REF][ENH] File galleries module: use getSubGalleries() to get tree nodes, giving back a phpLayers-like tree
<br> tikiwiki: [REF] FileGalLib: Remove now unused _buildTreePhplayers(), just generate path from getTree() instead
<br> tikiwiki: [REF] Various (Smarty tree)
<br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37873 10/trunk/lib/tree/tree.php: [REF] TreeMaker: improve documentation for make_tree()
<br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37874 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Sort strings more sensibly, with same letters (accented or not) grouped. C.UTF-8 wouldn't do that
<br> tikiwiki: r37015 regression, oops. Thanks Nelson Ko
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CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37875 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: [TRA] 100% again :)
chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: could you check if your problem persists?
coaboa: chealer yo mean when using r37873/73
<br> mom svn upping
<br> <u>chealer</u>: happy now ;-) category admin works again thx
chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: yes. good, sorry and thanks anyway
coaboa: <u>chealer</u>: the file lib/tree/categ_browse_tree.php caused that?
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<br> tikiwiki: [REF] Smarty tree: remove top node definition, never shown
<br> tikiwiki: FileGalLib: fix description of getSubGalleries() for $wholeSpecialGallery=true case (from r32331)
chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: I don't know. I don't know what your problem was
coaboa: oki
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coaboa: when will 8 be frozen? or when will trunk become 8 and trunk future 9?
<br> just to make sure not to svn up trunk to trunk of 9
changi|ffa: normaly tonight
coaboa: cool so I would have svn switch trunk to 8 tomorrow prior svn upping
chealer: <u>coaboa</u>: it will just go back if you switch later
<br> but in theory, it's best to switch before
<br> svn switch indeed
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fabricius: polom everybody
Bernard1: Hi Torsten
CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37879 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] generate_cat_tree(): "Undefined index: incat"
fabricius: hi Bernard1
CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37880 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] Restore "File Galleries" at the beginning of paths (oops, r37876 regression)
<br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37881 10/trunk/tiki-listpages.php: [FIX] Pages: "Undefined variable: find_langOrphan"
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nkoth|nelson: hicheler
<br> hi chealer, butsy fixing?
chealer: nkoth|nelson: more or less
<br> how are you?
nkoth|nelson: good. should we be preparing to create the 8.x branch soon?
chealer: nkoth|nelson: yes. I was planning to do it tonight but I never did it
<br> ...so hopefully the script will work :-)
nkoth|nelson: same here - I'm around
chealer: thanks
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changi|ffa: <u>chealer</u>: which script are you using ?
chealer: hi changi|ffa. http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Create_a_branch_if_you_are_releasing_a_major_version says it should be svnbranch.php
changi|ffa: <u>chealer</u>: it will work :)
<br> <u>chealer</u>: you can do it by hand using svn copy if you want
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chealer: great
<br> nkoth|nelson: I diverted to find.tpl issues because I found a problem in the list of categories there. some are blank
<br> like the [Test] category appears blank
nkoth|nelson: list where?
Bernard1: how much time before 8.x ?
chealer: nkoth|nelson: for example in listpages
<br> the category filter
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nkoth|nelson: chealer, interesting, did you fix it?
chealer: I think I'm on it, there were hundreds of notices at the start, but I cleaned most and I see some suspicious ones now
CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37885 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] "Undefined variable: find_cat_categories" (replace find_cat_categories with findSelectedCategoriesNumber, which just contains a count)
coaboa: gn
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CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37886 10/trunk/ (4 files): [FIX] "Undefined index: cat_categories". oops
fabricius: by coaboa|afk
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: hi - did you come further with the newsletter stuff?
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CIA-12: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37888 10/trunk/ (4 files):
<br> tikiwiki: [REF] find.tpl categories setup code
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Do not alter $_REQUEST['cat_categories']. Fixes loss of category filter if one category is selected in multiple mode
<br> tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37889 10/trunk/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] When archive comments feature is on, comments and forum replies not appearing because erroneously considered archived from the start
<br> tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37890 10/branches/7.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [bp/r37889][FIX] When archive comments feature is on, comments and forum replies not appearing because erroneously considered archived from the start
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jneusteter: hey everyone. problem = my homepage is set to the blog being the home page. but i get an error "blog not found". I have realized that the main blog has an "blogid=2", which works but "blogid=0" does not work.
nkoth|nelson: <u>jneusteter</u>: what version of tiki are you using?
jneusteter: 6.4
<br> lts
nkoth|nelson: testing
jneusteter: the site is linuxbasix.com
nkoth|nelson: in tiki-admin.php?page=general, what does the "Use feature as homepage" say?
jneusteter: i do not have an option ""Use feature as homepage"
nkoth|nelson: unde rthe navigation tab
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nkoth|nelson: "Use Tiki feature as homepage"
jneusteter: ok there it is, what we have set is "Blog:Set blogs homepage first"
nkoth|nelson: ok, go to tiki-admin.php, click on Blogs, there, select the Blog home page, and then save
sylvieg: comment in line seems to be broken in trunk - work like a charm in 6 but not in trunk
-: sylvieg misses perhaps a feature somewhere...
jneusteter: ok, there is a setting "Home Blog (main blog): but i have only one option which is "Linuxbasix Blog"
nkoth|nelson: sure, just save it
<br> then go back to General and check what it says now
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jneusteter: nkoth|nelson: i just got kicked from the channel
<br> not sure if made any posts while i was gone
nkoth|nelson: basically all I said was "just save it and go back to General and check what it says now". YOu can then save it again once it says "Blog:Linuxbasix Blog"
jneusteter: nice, you just made me quite happy. its works
nkoth|nelson: you're welcome
<br> <u>jneusteter</u>: btw, any reason why you have a phpbb forum (is it because you set that up before you got the tiki?)
jneusteter: well, its was a lack of understanding about tiki wiki. i installed tiki-wiki and phpbb at the same time. then realized the potential of tiki wiki. now im making the "tiki wiki the home page
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nkoth|nelson: ah ok.
jneusteter: now im wondering how the phpbb auth will work with tiki wiki
nkoth|nelson: not sure. I haven't tried it myself but it is documented: http://doc.tiki.org/phpBB+Authentication (you need phpbb 3 apparently)
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