have just been prowling the demo Tiki for 8x, 
we have a couple of Smarty errors in "tiki-index.php" ... 
PHP (5.2.9) NOTICE (E_NOTICE):
File: lib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_data.php
Line: 291
Type: Undefined variable: pageLang
PHP (5.2.9) NOTICE (E_NOTICE):
File: lib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_data.php
Line: 291
Type: Undefined variable: module_pref_errors
presumably, we need to set the missing variables to fix,
not knowing the relevant $Tiki_var I haven't tried to fix them yet
hmm ... note to self, multiline message doesn't work .... apologies all :)
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38389 10/branches/8.x/templates/tiki-contact.tpl: [FIX] This has been really irritating for a while. Clueless anonymous users tend to put their name and not their email in the From box, how can you then contact them back?
hello.. anyone home??
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38390 10/third_party/jquery/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] jquery.mobile 1.0rc1 to 1.0rc2
polom y'all
polom all
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r38391 10/trunk/ (lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php templates/wiki_edit.tpl): [FIX]edit: pagedata smarty var is also used in tiki_editpage.php - giving a blank page when previewing
polom marclaporte
marclaporte: Today I'm going to be working on tighter integration with draw + maps fyi.
Hi! Everybody...
:)
Merbster: Hey buddy
:)
just me, or is t.o *highly* unstable?
polom
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38392 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] timesheet plugin, is a mini view of timesheet feature
ricks99, I've been getting system errors from time to time at the community site.
But usually either a page refresh or waiting a few minutes makes it ok again.
how often is t.o refresshed from svn?
no idea
Does anyone know if we can suggest to have a profile installed usign an already existing feature?
something like "Apply this profile to get the most out of this feature {button to apply feature}"...
don't we do this with WYSIWYG?
ricks99: You talking with me?
ricks99:  me too
ricks99: me too tiki.org unstable
RobertPlummer: yes, we have a suggestion to add the wysiwyg profile, if user had activated WYSIWYG feature, but not all of the suggested items with it
I was thinking about just using the url
In this case: tiki-admin.php?profile=time_sheet&repository=&page=profiles&list=List
ricks99: Is it a function that I can use?  Where should I look?
buttons are nicer (imho)
long links are scary
ricks99: Good idea
take a look at (iirc) the tiki-editpage.tpl to see how we suggest specific profile when some wysiwyg options (but not all) are enabled
is that what you're looking for?
or maybe a different tpl... not 100% sure
ricks99, any reason why you created a SCORM tab page rather than adding to the existing SCORM page?
lphuberdeau: yes, the plan is to have an ref guide with explainins per-page/tab. in the user guide, we'll have (eventually) "How to use...."
imho, need to keep the ref material (i.e, field descriptions) separated from user (i.e., how to use) stuff
just my $0.02. see the doc revamp plan for my overall ideas
well, those are documented in the application
?
each option in the admin panel has a description
y, eventually, it would be nice to have the help text automatically feed into the doc.t.o page
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38393 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-timesheet.tpl tiki-timesheet.php): [ENH] If tracker's don't exist have a button to apply profiles
feels like we had this discussion before
?
ricks99: I just added a very simple button that has a link to the admin profile page for this.
What happened to the feature to turn on the jison parser?
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38394 10/trunk/templates/admin/include_features.tpl: [ENH] Re-added feature to turn on jison parser
lphuberdeau: Did you get a chance to check out universal reports yet?
nope, but perhaps I should be doing this today
did you write any documentation to help get started?
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38395 10/trunk/templates/fgal_context_menu.tpl: [FIX] Added application/octet-stream for acceptable files to be editable in filegallery/tiki doc
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38396 10/trunk/tiki-edit_docs.php: [FIX] Added odt file type to editable types
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38398 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-timesheet.tpl tiki-timesheet.php): [FIX] formula problems
lphuberdeau: Universal Reports "stub" on dev: https://dev.tiki.org/UniversalReports
lphuberdeau: When you add your definition, it is automatically detected and allowed.
or listed rather.
sorry, I just don't see where to get started
Plus, I get a 404 on Parser.js now
lphuberdeau: You create a definition, and the reports are automatically included in the list of types to create.
before even writing custom stuff, I don' know how to use what is there
lphuberdeau: ok lets figure out the 404 error.
lphuberdeau: Is js minify on?
lphuberdeau: nm, parser was deleted, is no longer going to be used.
lphuberdeau: So don't worry about that, just erroneous code.
you really need to first add a feature check on this stuff
next up would be some intro doc about what it does and how do get something with it
lphuberdeau: It is brand new :).
lphuberdeau: I just got it running monday.
(and tuesday)
lphuberdeau: It is a pretty 
well, I can either ask you questions for 4 hours figuring out what to do with it, or you spend an hour writing an intro and I can start from there, and others too
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38399 10/trunk/tiki-edit_universal_reports.php: [FIX] Removed call to parser.js, not used anymore
when I go to tiki-edit_universal_reports.php , I see a drop list and 3 buttons
what am I supposed to do with that?
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38400 10/trunk/lib/sheet/sheetlib.php: [FIX] Please declare instance variables
lphuberdeau: https://dev.tiki.org/UniversalReports is getting better
RobertPlummer: It would be good to see some examples of Universal Reports. I don't have any idea of intended use cases.
The name "Universal" suggests I can get reports about virtually everything, but I suspect that isn't actually true. ;-)
chibaguy: chibaguy if you create a definition for it, it will create a report on that definition.
chibaguy: It is an abstract way of building reports.
For example?
chibaguy: Load it up and look at trackers.
chibaguy: it is difficult to explain abstract, it is so abstract ;)
well, it's 1am here so I can't really get into it at the moment.
but I mean what would _you_ do with it, do you think?
for instance
It seems like if I define a report, then I need to anticipate what data would be necessary for it, and where that data is stored, so in my imagination anyway it seems like the scope is reduced quite a bit from 'universal'.
Is the report derived from tracker items?
chibaguy: The report builder saves your defined report, for instance....
chibaguy: I have created two definitions at this time, tracker and logs.
chibaguy: But you can create a definition for litereally any part of tiki you like.
i see.
chibaguy: You can create a 1 time report for visits to your site today.
Set the date etc.
Then (I have yet to build) you can load that into a dashboard or a spreadsheet.
How easy is it for a nonprogrammer to define a report?
chibaguy: From the reporting engine you will have a 
oops
chibaguy: That is the beauty of it.
Just load it up and you will seee.
ok, I'll try it as soon as I can.
chibaguy: The user interface is created from your report difinition.  The end user never knew it was programmed that way.
This is another topic (more pedestrian) but it's too bad the greater-than and less-than characters in Tiki's code examples don't render correctly.
chibaguy: the end user just sees simple things, like picking a tracker, the date range the'd like to analyze, what item id to look for if needed and what fields to display, they click preview and they can look at those results in a spreadsheet, they click export, csv.
(I was looking at the dev.tiki.org/UniversalReports page.)
chibaguy: Right, that is for developers
chibaguy: hence the "dev"
chibaguy: I suppose we need a "doc" page too.
chibaguy: But the reports are very easy to assemble, there are still some components that I'm goign to create, like an admin area, where you can create, save, edit reports.
Ok, that's great.
chibaguy: Are you sold on it?
Well, the concept sounds very good, but I keep running into features that are at the "stub" stage. ;-)
I tried to check out the invoice feature, but it can't be used yet, etc.
There aren't enough devs with time to fill in the gaps, I guess.
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38401 10/trunk/tiki-edit_universal_reports.php: [FIX] removed external keyword, was not working period, adding did not "fix" anything
Hi Tikiverse
Where can I configure the "poweredby" module in the footer?
admin modules?
I cant find the place where to configure the Text "powered by Tikiwiki" - want to add custom legal as well
mark_doe, what version of Tiki are you using?
7.2
In that case you need to make a custom module on admin modules.
(I don't think the 'powered_by' module can be edited.)
hmm... admin modules.... custum module... will check that - thx
The docs might not be up to date on this, since it's new in Tiki 7.
Anyway, go to tiki-admin_modules.php.
If 'powered_by' module can't be edited (new text added or something), then you can make a custom module, maybe use the nobox=y parameter so it doesn't get a graphic box and title, and assign it to the bottom_modules module zone.
Or Bottom Modules.
ok, i will try that
ok
 New Forum Posts: mobile theme broke my site! help! - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=42507
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 New Forum Posts: Support Tiki in the 2011 Open Source CMS Market Share Survey - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=42504
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tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php can't connect to database.
a refresh and it's ok.
In Tiki8, I have some missing fields in tiki-view_tracker.php, such as email fields :-(
chibaguy: yeah, it did that yesterday too
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38402 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Big fix with how js files are handled, everything outside of tiki-setup.php is now handled as external, though there are now js dependacy files, because jquery is used so heavily in tiki.
tikiwiki: [NEW] Added new method add_jsfile_denpendacy to headerlib which is used only on key files in tiki-setup.php
polom
chibaguy: :-) 
thank you, that worked for me!
chibaguy: hum. are we saying that this problem only happens on a "first access", then goes away refreshing?
chealer, I don't know if that's a consistent pattern, but a number of times I've gotten the error and then after refreshing I get the regular page. It's happened with forums at t.o a few times lately.
chibaguy: I just tried in Chromium and got the error several times in a row of refreshes
mark_doe: good to hear.
yet it's not showing any slowness
chealer: yeah, I haven't noticed a definite pattern.
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38403 10/trunk/templates/tiki-user_menu.tpl: indentation
Sometimes I get the error even after a refresh but a few minutes later it's ok.
db errors are kind of random, just means mysql is too busy
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38404 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php: [FIX] Removed tiki-js.js and tiki-jquery.js from dependancy, they weren't being minified
slow query log analysis can help solve issues, but the symptom of unable to connect does not usually indicate where the problem is
If possible, it'd be nice to have a more user-friendly error message.
Like "System Error.  Please try refreshing the page. If problem continues, notify the site administrator."
or whatever would be appropriate.
anyone has experience with tracker field type "Item List" ?
Nelson mentionned he made some fixes on it recently in 8
I am wondering if I can do what I am trying
and I thouhgt if anyone was able to conclude it if I sent the mockup I am following
what are you trying to do?
basically it's getting an item list field to "stretch across" several columns in the tracker it's contained in.
you know to grab several columns from the source tracker
single source?
only one tracker yes
but there are several item fields in the tracker containing the item list also, but I'd expect them not to interfere?
item list is mostly for listing multiple items based on a query
did you try item link?
can it grab a list of items?
I need several items in the tracker filtered by category
item list can either do the invert list of item link
or so exact matching on an arbitrary field
nothing more
is it possible to imitate a many to many relationship and show the results in the item list field (or something similar)
the relation field could help you with that, it does many to many
but I need to show the results as a sublist of a tracker item, where the individual tracker fields of the source trakcer is sharing columns with  the containing tracker
I think that can be done using pretty trackers and list/trackerlist
that is, if you want multiple fields to be displayed
item list and relation will only provide links to the other items
lphuberdeau, I can send you the mockup if you like so you can see what I am aiming for
sure
lphuberdeau, Could you pm me your email?
I just disabled Visible to admin only for error messages on tiki.org, but just after the browser where I had errors stopped getting errors so I don't know if it made a difference
got a new error, no difference. I re-enabled
chibaguy|sleeping
heh
strange, disabling should give us more useful error messages
Merbster: that does look like pretty trackers to me, although geoff can probably give you more advice on this
lphuberdeau, I am not sure I know Geoff or atleast not by that name
Geoff Brickell, I have a sudden blank on his IRC screen name
ask your question on the dev mailing list and he'll probably see it
ok
thanks for your help lphuberdeau  :)
well I think it's time to call it a work day. Have a nice one.
hello
hi changi|ready
master, what do you want me to do :)
changi|ready: heh, how much time do you have? I don't have much (leaving in less than 2 hours)
I have to eat something...
i have time, just tell
should dev be ready to switch ?
chealer: to answer rodrigo's question, i'm always working on ubuntu. I don't have any windows
changi|ready: dev is quite ready, but there is still the comment sproblem left and a SQL query error I forgot to mention
SQL Error ? Where ?
changi|ready: yeah, I thought as much. well, we'll see what happens at RC 1 time anyway
changi|ready: see http://trunkdev.tiki.org/tiki-syslog.php
changi|ready: unfortunately I only see part of the error. I see it's related to trackers
changi|ready: it would be nice to have the full error and to match that with the request URL
chealer: how can google generate an error on a website which is behind an basic auth
changi|ready: I do wonder...
that's not possible
it's an error from dev.tiki.org
and not trunkdev.tiki.org
otherwise, you won't see it in syslog
changi|ready: so trunkdev was synchronized with production dev today?
every day at 6h125
oups 6h25 GMT °2
changi|ready: good. let's upgrade dev then
the first entry from trunkdev is you when you logged in
chealer: ok
chealer: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '-311' at line 1 - SELECT tti.*, ttif.`value`, ttf.`type`, sttif.`
chealer: that's on dev syslog
changi|ready: yes. did you send the whole error message? if so, it was truncated on IRC
no the row is limited to 255 character
so i send you what i have in it
correction limited to 200 character
i would be nive to put 2048 instead
changi|ready: yes, I see that part too. I agree a longer limit would be good. also the URL that caused it
chealer: dev is on 8.x
in tiki8 we now have 255 character, but i think it's not enough, especially for SQL queries
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4012 - - When upgrading old version of TikiWiki to 7.2, admin login no longer has admin permissions  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4012
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4014 - - Display tracker item title in the sefurl  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4014
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4015 - - Non-parsed wiki feature doesn't work correctly anymore  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4015
changi|ready: great, that was fast :-)
yay, Tiki|bot can work now
changi|ready: I agree. can you figure out which URL is causing the error?
dev seems OK to me
chealer: no i can't figure out, but will try
chealer: do you know were is the parameter to select what goes in actionlog
we still have viewed tracker in log
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r38405 10/branches/8.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] Typo
changi|ready: I'm not sure which parameter you're talking about, but I don't know Action log much
changi|ready: you mentioned problems with backlinks, are you still seeing these?
backlinks problem is fixed
good. doc is not looking bad, but I think it would be optimistic to do it today
another issue : Unknown column 'type' in 'where clause' - select * from `users_permissions`  where `type`= 'trackers'  and `permName` > '' order by `permName` desc
(unless other people have time to test and fix)
changi|ready: yeah, would be good to find where that query is coming from
ok, i will do that
changi|ready: if people test trunkdoc later today and it's good, when would you have time to upgrade it if you're told it's ready tomorrow?
I'll be back in 15 minutes
ok can some one tell me how the hell you can get this horrible idea of a cms to let me do what i want. I have tried using html code and that doesnt work yet every other cms works right when you use html code 
peter_b: horrible CMSß
?
ask somebody else
well you cant style anything and format it like a normal person it seems like you cant embed a category list of pages into a fancy table so that you can style the table the way you want it to be 
back
changi|ready: do we have xdebug on dev?
{module module="menustructure" notitle="y" decoration="0" flip="1" structure="Tiki Reference Guide" perspective="0"} seems to break the TikiDocumentationSuite module on trunkdoc
changi|ready: I pretty much have to go. please let us know what are your availabilities so we can revise the schedule accordingly, or just change it yourself
chealer: xdebug is on
chealer: will update date tomorrow
thanks
ooodd. http://trunkdev.tiki.org/tiki-ajax_services.php?controller=comment&action=list&type=trackeritem&objectId=4009 works now
changi|ready: well sorry, it seems the problem needing xdebug was magically solved
chealer: ok
can't find the 2 sql errors
will post it on the devlist
maybe lph will find it
hum, or not...
anyway, have to go. thanks changi, good to have dev finally done
see you soon I hope
does anyone have some good easyphp resources that would explain how to redirect a url? for example. i have the alias "wiki" created on my DC. when you type in "/wiki" it will redirecto you to the proper ip address of the machine that is hosing tikiwiki. the problem is that i would prever it would just launch the site, rather then the easyphp interface initially. i have tried reading up on .htaccess but it seems that will not solve
Quick question - how do I set the date of an article earlier than 2006? The dropdown list does not have a year listed before that date.
One option, I suppose, would be to directly edit the field in the database... but the date is stored as a number, e.g. 1156625220
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38406 10/branches/8.x/pics/icons/mime/svg.png: [FIX] Added icon for svg edit, added from larger, just resized
deeku:  I have seen this. Hold one
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38407 10/branches/8.x/ (templates/fgal_context_menu.tpl tiki-edit_docs.php): [FIX] Backport of tiki docs file type checks
thanks Marc...
Is the number stored in the database the unix time stamp of the date?
you just need to change the template
Yes, if one could enter the year in a text field, it would do the trick
http://demo.tiki.org/8x/tiki-edit_article.php has 20 year spread
Edited the template and am now able to see more years in the drop down list but there is a problem
deeku:  look at templates/tiki-edit_article.tpl
what is problem?
If I enter a year before 1901 (e.g. if I enter 1861) tiki records it as 1901
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38408 10/trunk/lib/core/ (Report/ Report/Builder.php UniversalReports/): [ENH] Change of name from "Universal Reports" to "Report"
oh
you are really going in the past!!!
what is your use case? A historical blog?
yes, this is a news item I have been able to find http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NENZC18611030.2.14
FYI, it was quite easy to change the template to show more years
changed the line {html_select_date prefix="publish_" time=$publishDateSite start_year="-200" end_year="+10" field_order=$prefs.display_field_order}
used -200 instead of the original -5
deeku, don't be excessive :)
:-)
-20 is probably plenty, making that number too large increases the page size quite a lot and slows down everything
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38409 10/trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [NEW] Now exports wiki syntax
tikiwiki: [ENH] Namespace change from universal reports to report
I agree. However the issue remains that tiki is unable to accept a date prior to 1901 and this is probably due to some other reason - maybe an epoch year when setting the timestamp?
1970 actually
actually depends if your system is 64 bits
well, entirely on whatever php does
http://dev.tiki.org/Banner   page alias is not working
Anyway, thanks Marc for all your help with this. We use tiki quite a bit, we now have more than ten tiki sites for our clients
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38410 10/trunk/ (tiki-edit_report.php tiki-filter-base.php): [FIX] Namespace changes from universal reports to report
Marc, the problem with earlier dates in articles occurs even for the year 1940. This is FYI.
changi|ready: still there?