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sipherdee | "A new version of Tikiwiki, 4.2, is available. You are currently running 4.3. Please visit http://tikiwiki.org/Download." - weird... any ideas? | [04:01]< |
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xavi | polom
any tiki cache expert around? | [11:01]< |
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xavi | I have an issue in a production site due to tiki cache and dynamic items list for anons. it seems that the page is cached for the browser. and when the page with the dynamic items list is generated for firefox or chrome in linux, that cached page doesn't work as expected in IE 8.x (the second drop down is empty and is not populated)
and when I do the opposite (firsst load the page in IE 8.x refresshing cache, then the dynamic items list works on Windows IE, but the same page (cached) doesn't show a working dynamic items list for Firefox or Chrome on Linux, etc. I did set the page cache to 0, but it seems that this is still caching the page for all anonymous (regardless of their browsers) :-/ and we need some option to set Tiki to have tiki cache set to "0.0" (like in the non-alocohol beer ;-), or whatever other name): don't keep any copy of the page in cache, regardless of user groups or browsers. so that each time, the page for anons with the dynamic items list is created properly for the browser that the person is using | [12:01]< |
CIA-83 | tikiwiki: xavidp * r39505 /branches/proposals/6.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [bp/r39484][FIX]dynamiclist: filter on categ was incorrect because ret is a table of items. Thks sylvie! | [12:01]< |
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CIA-83 | tikiwiki: arildb * r39506 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_alink.php: [FIX] Make ALINK plugin work for non-SEFURL installations
tikiwiki: arildb * r39507 /branches/8.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_alink.php: [bp/r39506][FIX] Make ALINK plugin work for non-SEFURL installations | [12:01]< |
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xavi | rodrigoprimo ?
or Jyhem_laptop ? I'm willing to fix the issue with wiki page cache... but I don't fully get where to add the fix within lib/wiki/wikilib.php (around lines 409 and 412, in trunk) I want Tiki to have an option (back) to not set any cache for a wiki page line 410 says: if ($wiki_cache > 0 && empty($_REQUEST['offset']) && empty($_REQUEST['itemId']) && (empty($user) || $prefs['wiki_cache'] == 0) ) { I presume that "prefs['wiki_cache']" means the general wiki cache for the whole Tiki What would be the syntax for the page wiki page? (which is set to 0, even if the general tiki cache is set to 15 min) | [12:01]< |
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xavi | bbl | [13:01]< |
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hello? anybody there? since moving my tikiwiki onto my webhost (siteground) i have encounterd 2 bugs: after editing a wiki page it doesnt return to the page but simply give me a white page (the edit still works) and when uploading something to the filegallery the "progress wheel thingy" just spins forever... i can click browse gallery and the file will be properly uploaded but it never stops uploadin if i dont manually click "browse gallery" everything still works... its just not perfect... | [14:01]-!- |
rodrigoprimo | hi xavi
admin_that_needs: check apache error log admin_that_needs: you will probably find more information about what is hapenning there | [14:01]< |
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Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: 2 bugs since moving tikiwiki onto webhost - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=42930 | [14:01]< |
xavi | admin_that_needs: try also with a different browser | [14:01]< |
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xavi | hi rodrigoprimo
rodrigoprimo: did you know how to force tiki caching to be avoided? I seem to have issues to avoid wiki caching a wiki page from happening in tiki6 I did set that page to individual cache to 0, but the page gets cached (using proposals/6x, to be exact) | [14:01]< |
admin_that_needs | ive tried with many different browsers and with many different computers... its always the same... im currently trying to find my apache error logs... ill keep you posted | [14:01]< |
xavi | xavi will try disabling the whole caching of the site
admin_that_needs: using db or file system to store files in file gals? if file system, check perms on that folder (just in case) | [14:01] |
rodrigoprimo | xavi: I'm sorry, but I don't remember by heart how to force tiki to not cache wiki pages
xavi: on the other hand I think someone mentioned this problem or something similar to me a long ago | [14:01]< |
xavi | admin_that_needs: if new hosting means that you have some different prefix for your site (from http://domain1.org/prefix/yoursite to http://domain2.org/prefix2/yoursite) check also the .htaccess file in your tiki root folder (maybe rewrite rules affecting)
rodrigoprimo: ok | [14:01]< |
admin_that_needs | im using db to store files
i think sorry i dont understand that last part you posted i have a different prefix? | [14:01]< |
xavi | admin_that_needs: wht's the url of your site | [14:01]< |
admin_that_needs | cannapedia.me (before i was tesing it locally so it was localhost) | [14:01]< |
xavi | xavi surprised that I can't get rid of tiki caching with IE8 on windows | [14:01] |
admin_that_needs | i just downloaded the "raw access log" from siteground... its a huge wall of text... what am i looking for in here (the "error log" only had 3 lines and google told me to get this one) | [14:01]< |
xavi | admin_that_needs: try also (just in case) disabling the "Admin home > Performance > Minify js" | [14:01]< |
admin_that_needs | i just checked and its not checked | [14:01]< |
xavi | Try also to change file gal storage from db to a folder on disk (through "Admin home > File gals > storage"
and ensure that the folder you indicate is writable by apache (or by everyone, in case of doubt: 777, etc) | [14:01]< |
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admin_that_needs | ok i created the folder "filegallery" in the root directory and gave it permissions
so do i admin -> filgal to save stuff in "/filegallery"? | [15:01]< |
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CIA-83 | tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39508 /branches/8.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX]fivealive: darken selected option first section | [15:01]< |
admin_that_needs | welll... i was able to upload the picture... the problem with the forever spinning wheel is till there... and the picture didnot show up in the folder o.O... but i was still able to download it... where the fuck did i just store that picture??
ahh okay i see... it renamed it to a string of random charcters n shit but still: the problem is still there: when i try to upload a picture it just spins and spins forever... never coming to a stop unless i click "browse filegallery" | [15:01]< |
xavi | admin_that_needs: no idea then. to me, this reminds me of something that I saw with some browser in the past in tiki7.something... but other browsers worked well. | [15:01]< |
CIA-83 | tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39509 /trunk/styles/fivealive.css: [merge/r39508][FIX]fivealive: darken selected option first section | [15:01]< |
xavi | admin_that_needs: are you using latest tiki 8.x code?
sylvieg? | [15:01]< |
admin_that_needs | where can i check that? i used the installer provided by my webhost | [15:01]< |
xavi | I don't get a way to disable cache with IE8 on windows. I dunno why (it doesn't seem to respect my setting in tiki)
admin_that_needs: "Admin home > General > General Preferences > Release Check" | [15:01]< |
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admin_that_needs | tiki version 7.1 | [15:01]< |
xavi | he he :-) admin_that_needs, upgrade to latest Tiki 8.x
or test first locally in your computer, with latest Tiki 8.x (that might have very well been solved ; i.e., I didn't see this issue any more since tiki 8.x, for instance) | [15:01]< |
CIA-83 | tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39510 /branches/8.x/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl: [FIX]calendar: do not show url when no custom url
tikiwiki: sylvieg * r39511 /trunk/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl: [merge/r39510][FIX]calendar: do not show url when no custom url | [15:01]< |
admin_that_needs | sooo... whats the easiest way to upgrade? just hit the check for updates button? should i expect alot of work to get everything to work like it is now?
wut? when i click "check for updates" it tells me "current verison is up to date: 7.1" | [15:01]< |
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xavi | admin_that_needs: read http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade
you 'll probably need to follow the upload by ftp guidelines (whereever they are, you'll see the link from the previous page), it you don't have ssh access to your host | [15:01]< |
admin_that_needs | thanks... ive been reading that for the past 5 mins though... just one question: should i clear my root directory and then upload the new release or just copy and replace? | [15:01]< |
Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Spalten Name der jeweiligen Kategorie - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=42932 | [15:01]< |
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xavi | clear is better for major versions (like between 7 and 8x)
you can probably rename your current public_htdocs to public_htdocs_old, and create a new folder public_htdocs there, etc of course, as usual, keep backup of your db, etc. (and your files on disk, etc). In case you had some custom files, or files uploaded to img/wiki_up, etc. you would always be able to recover them from your renamed folder,e tc | [16:01]< |
admin_that_needs | ahh that renaming is good idea... im currently downloading my DB and complete public_html folder in case anything goes wrong or im missing something later... anything else i have to backup? | [16:01]< |
xavi | he he, keep reading http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade :-) | [16:01]< |
Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: facebook integtation - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42933 | [16:01]< |
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xavi | ok, I found a workaround for this issue with caching pages... so I move forward...
I'd like to provide odd and even background for the plugin tracker rows.... | [17:01]< |
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xavi | but I don't see how in case it's easy)
luciash_: ? | [17:01]< |
CIA-83 | tikiwiki: jonnybradley * r39512 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] search: Add pref for Lucene termsPerQueryLimit (allows prevention of errors with date range searches on a large data set) | [17:01]< |
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RobertPlummer | lphuberdeau: I'm about to start working on an alternate parser for wiki syntax, it will output just words from a page. I'm wondering what you think about creating a new core class called "Parser" and we eventually migrate over to using it, | [19:01]< |
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Hello all, and a belated happy new year! | [20:01]-!- |
happy | new year to you too | [20:01]<@sylvieg> |
lphuberdeau: | are comments in tracker indexed on the fly? | [20:01]<@sylvieg> |
deeku | Is ck-erp used a lot with tiki? I just saw that they have a connector for tiki and I want to know if it still works and people are using it before I fiddle with my install. | [20:01]< |
Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Edit Tracker box has white text on white BG - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42936 | [20:01]< |
all | these ajax call - it is great when it works - but to debug and fix - it is painful | [20:01]<@sylvieg> |
Loll78 | Hi. I have problems to create groups. I intend to create some groups so that the users of these groups can only SEE some wiki pages (and do not have access to the others) | [20:01]< |
deeku | Hello Loll87, you can use PluginGroup to control which group sees what content on a wiki page. See http://doc.tiki.org/PluginGroup
To prevent members of some groups from accessing the content of a wiki page, you can wrap the content around PluginGroup | [20:01]< |
Loll78 | deeku: a) Can I nest this plugin? b)It is not exactly what I want to have because some users should see AND edit the pages, some users should only see the contents and the anonymous should see a different page (defined by the group plugin)
so i think it is a combination of group and permissions-settings which I should do, but up to now I haven't found the right combination | [20:01]< |
deeku | Here is how anonymous users can see a different page and other group members see the actual content
{GROUP(groups=Members|Editors|Admins)} {ARTICLES(type="Notices")}{ARTICLES}{ELSE} This page is accessible to members only. {GROUP} You will have to test if you can nest this plugin, though I do not recall having any problems nesting it | [20:01]< |
Loll78 | deeku: perhaps I should give a clearer example. User A should see only pages A but not pages B, but user B should see them (but not pages A). Both of them should not edit the pages. User C should see all the pages (also pages C) and should also edit all pages. | [20:01]< |
deeku | For enable some people to edit a page and some just to view content, the simplest way forward would be to have the editors in their own group and readers in a different one
ok, based on your example, here is how I would proceed. Let members of group a (user A is assumed to be a member of group a) see pages B, but with the PluginGroup used as described above, user A will just see the message "This page is accessible to members only." and vice versa for members of group B who visit pages of group A So your objective is met: user A can visit group B's pages but not see the pages content | [20:01]< |
Loll78 | Is is not simpler to restraint the permission of User A on pages B and vice versa?
or even better (but I do not know if it works) to couple the permission to categories? | [20:01]< |
deeku | But how? Will you use categories or individual permissions per page? How many pages do you want to control in this way? A small number can be managed manually, but for large numbers... and what about the future, will users from one group move to the other? If so how do you handle that? New users... are they automatically assigned a group? | [20:01]< |
Loll78 | New Users are assigned to the Editors group. It is only to give access to a small number of people to some pages (perhaps 100) | [20:01]< |
deeku | Ok, you can use categories and permissions, though I would still prefer PluginGroup or even PluginPerm - see http://doc.tiki.org/PluginPerm | [20:01]< |
Loll78 | In our Lab, User of machine A should see information concerning machine A but not see the pages from machine B. And external people should not have the right to edit any informations but see their corresponding machine. | [20:01]< |
deeku | ok...
when you say pages from machine B, do you mean pages containing info about machine B or pages created using machine B? | [20:01]< |
Loll78 | pages containing info abozt machine B | [20:01]< |
deeku | ok... | [20:01]< |
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Loll78 | I think I can assign categories to each page, and set the permission for that categorie | [21:01]< |
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Loll78 | but now the question is if there are multiple categories per pages and their permissions are contradictory what happen. | [21:01]< |
deeku | yes, you can.
you need a one-to-one relationship between user and machine so user of machine A sees info about machine A well, yes, I suppose you could use categories to acheive that if permissions are contradictory, it is difficult to predict what will happen. You will have to be careful when configuring this. | [21:01]< |
Loll78 | deeku: your method certainly works also, but I think it will be a lot of work if one wants to change a think (adding a new machine) or usergroups..
up to now the pages are tagged with "machine A" or "machine B" and some pages of them are also tagged with "Manual" | [21:01]< |
deeku | Very little work would be required to add a new machine or usergroup... I imagine that you would need to just create a new page or the new machine, put the PluginGroup wrapper around the content and then assign any users who use the new machine to the machine's group... Thats all.
Either way, its your choice. Both methods have their own advantages. And disadvantages | [21:01]< |
CIA-83 | tikiwiki: gezzzan * r39513 /trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [ADD] Language pop-up selection related css changes | [21:01]< |
Loll78 | for the moment I am wondering if one can only assign the same permissions to subcategories | [21:01]< |
CIA-83 | tikiwiki: chealer * r39514 /trunk/ (11 files in 7 dirs): [REM] Remove show_lang option for article types (Show language). Badly implemented and can now be globally replaced by show_available translations | [21:01]< |
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CIA-83 | tikiwiki: gezzzan * r39515 /trunk/templates/ (3 files): [MOD] translated-lang.tpl rework and related changes
tikiwiki: gezzzan * r39516 /trunk/templates/article_trailer.tpl: [MOD] adding updated calling of translated-lang.tpl | [21:01]< |
admin_that_needs | so i just upgraded my tikwiki 7.1 install to 8.2 and now none of the wiki pages work, i get a "page not found" for every wiki page (things like register.php and index.php work) what did i do wrong? | [21:01]< |
Loll78 | permissions? | [21:01]< |
admin_that_needs | permissions for what?
please be a little more specific^^ | [21:01]< |
Loll78 | I have no idea, but perhaps the permissions of the pages, categories or users is wrong. | [21:01]< |
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admin_that_needs | where can i set these? | [22:01]< |
Loll78 | honestly I have no idea if it is due to that, a failed upgrade can also be the reason. | [22:01]< |
admin_that_needs | god damnit just tell me what you mean
do you mean somewhere in admin settings? or like folder permission? all the files for tiki 8.2 are there it works but i cant get the wiki pages | [22:01]< |
Loll78 | have you restored your database? | [22:01]< |
admin_that_needs | i upgraded it
should i have removed the force utf 8 thingi? | [22:01]< |
Loll78 | how many pages are there on "tiki-listpages.php" | [22:01]< |
admin_that_needs | it made the connection in the installer
all of them but when i click one it gives me page not found | [22:01]< |
Loll78 | and what do you see if you click on the yellow key of one of them on the "tiki-listpages.php" -page | [22:01]< |
admin_that_needs | the permissions
anonymous can view them should be able to | [22:01]< |
Loll78 | then I have no idea... you should wait until an expert came | [22:01]< |
CIA-83 | tikiwiki: chealer * r39517 /trunk/templates/article_trailer.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Articles: language selector not showing (show_lang was removed in r39514). tikiwiki: r39516 regression tikiwiki: gezzzan * r39518 /trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] lang select icon aligment | [22:01]< |
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CIA-83 | tikiwiki: chealer * r39519 /trunk/templates/translated-lang.tpl: [FIX] Multilingual: misencoded language names (r39515 regression) | [23:01]< |
admin_that_needs | so i just upgraded my tikwiki 7.1 install to 8.2 and now none of the wiki pages work, i get a "page not found" for every wiki page (things like register.php and index.php work) what did i do wrong?
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