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[1:29] kstingel I'm attempting to port a custom template into Tiki ...
[1:29] kstingel the original template included custom fonts, where would I place the "customfonts" folder so that Tiki can access it?
[1:50] fabricius Hi kstingel
[1:50] kstingel morning fabricius :)
[1:50] fabricius why not in /styles "besides" the CSS files?
[1:51] fabricius I would place them there
[1:52] fabricius for ex.: /styles/customfonts/myfont
[1:54] kstingel I'm working in Tiki 8.3 .... had lost the base theme, only just found it ... Skeleton, have copied, and am now extending to include supportive files
[1:54] kstingel I have  thus far ...
[1:54] kstingel /styles/newTheme.css (a straight copy of Skeleton.css)
[1:55] kstingel /styles/newTheme/ (the folder to contain the parts for the newTheme)
[1:55] kstingel /templates/styles/newTheme (the new templates)
[1:55] fabricius Ok that is good
[1:56] kstingel is slightly confusing, because there is no actual /styles/skeleton/ folder ...
[1:56] kstingel but will refer back to fivealive to port pieces in inititally
[1:57] fabricius you know, that you need /templates/styles/newTheme just for custom smarty code -> if you leave this empty, you just will use the default and this might be enough - you can do pretty much with the css
[1:58] fabricius the only thing what you really need to run is /styles/someCSSfile.css
[1:58] kstingel I have 1 custom Smarty tpl .... it's basically a static page I used preTiki as the index page
[1:58] kstingel ... that's also the only page that actually uses the custom fonts :)
[1:59] fabricius :-)
[1:59] fabricius anyway I would put the fonts in /styles and not in /templates/styles
[2:0] fabricius what's now with the folder named same than your CSS file (which is missing for skeleton) ...
[2:0] fabricius ... that is the place for images and options
[2:1] kstingel once I found Skeleton, that was my thought too, makes more sense that way, as Fonts are a CSS option, not a template option
[2:1] fabricius Tiki automatically puts a CSS file in relation to a folder with the same name
[2:2] fabricius BUT ... you can setup custom themes based on existing themes and using their folder by using a "-"
[2:2] fabricius for ex.: the pair jqui.css and /jqui
[2:3] kstingel at the moment, my new folders are both empty, all I have created so far is the newTheme.css page
[2:3] fabricius jqui-customname.css would use /jqui aswell
[2:4] fabricius why you do not use jqui for a start? just to get known with the Tiki selectors - jqui is getting more and more common as "base" theme for customising
[2:4] fabricius just an idea
[2:5] fabricius maybe use some parts of it - if you want
[2:6] kstingel one thing I did notice, after opening up the 'base' css files for reading ....
[2:6] kstingel line 27 of /layout/layout.css ... where HTML5 elements are being set to display at block level
[2:6] kstingel shouldn't "section" be included in there too?
[2:9] fabricius .
[2:10] fabricius hmm I do not know, but note, that there are no unnessesary changes made in layout.css, lite.css, design.css etc. on development of Tiki - and it is not recommended to interfere there  on theme creation
[2:10] fabricius due to theme compatibility
[2:10] kstingel hadn't looked @ jqui .... will be a better match for the look I'm trying for, ty for the suggestion
[2:11] fabricius jqui is a very basic theme - meant to be a more extended skeleton
[2:11] kstingel wasn't planning to edit base files ... was thinking of overriding in custom theme to include sections as well :)
[2:11] fabricius yo - good plan
[2:11] fabricius r u already registered on tiki.org?
[2:12] kstingel yup, has been a while since I added anything tho
[2:14] kstingel my last contribution was the original listing of the SVN externals and their current versions :)
[2:18] fabricius hehe seems to be a while ago
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[2:38] CIA-36 tikiwiki: [ENH] Code was just soo grouped together, linear, I created a few functions and just moved the code there so tracking what is going on is easier
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[2:44] kstingel fabricius: since I'm now extending jqui, should my customizations go into a folder within jqui or should I create a folder "newTheme-jqui"?
[2:46] fabricius I would suggest the following: do what you described first, but copy the content of jqui.css and /jqui into myTheme.css and /myTheme
[2:48] kstingel ok, thanx :)
[2:48] fabricius oh or newTheme
[2:48] fabricius so you keep an original and untouched jqui in Tiki
[2:50] fabricius are you experienced in CSS as you attempt to port a custom template from another system to Tiki?
[3:2] fabricius would be good to get more good design into Tiki
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[3:10] kstingel I've done a fair bit of CSS design, but mostly for self
[3:10] kstingel Once I get my customized template sorted, I'm thinking of attempting a Template Factory ....
[3:10] kstingel starting with a base template (probably a choice of Skeleton or Jqui) and then a step thru on tweaking it for custom layouts
[3:10] kstingel I'll include the Documentation too, then post it to tw.o :)
[3:13] fabricius kstingel: very good so
[3:14] fabricius there are thoughts in the community which go in this direction
[3:14] fabricius would like to stay in contact with you regarding those plans
[3:15] kstingel will be away from internet for next few weeks, but also thinking of creating a "PHPstorm + XAMPP IDE setup" guide
[3:15] kstingel as I've been researching how To <whatever>, I've been throwing together my own reference ePub, that may be handy too ... until Rick finishes his Tiki for Admins book
[3:15] kstingel I'm registered there too, so once I get back online, I can provide him with my notes for incorporation into his book(s)
[3:15] fabricius there should be a group or so to make the design stuff growing faster - a big issue for marketing
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[4:27] kstingel|offline where do I turn off showing the pagename as part of the page?
[4:30] kstingel|offline nvm, found it ...
[4:30] kstingel|offline Wiki->General->display page name as page title
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[4:34] erissian So I feel like a total dink, but I'm failing at a trivial task and the search terms are too generic to provide useful results.
[4:35] erissian I need to create a wiki page for a play called [title of show]. Square brackets are part of the name, and I don't need to use them for the page name, but I still want the links to show as [title of show] and then take people to the "title of show" page
[4:36] erissian but no combination of the markup seems to allow me to do this. The closest I got was to have "[title of show" as a link, with an unhighlighted closing bracket
[4:36] erissian So if somebody could help me out, or send me in the right direction, you would make my night.
[4:43] erissian Worked it out. Think I've just been staring at this monitor for too long.
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[17:27] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40589 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_kaltura.php: [REF] continued from prev commit: Rename Kaltura prefs
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[19:28] marclaporte polom from TikiFestKaltura 2012
[19:28] jonnyb hey Kalturians! Wish i was there! :)
[19:30] marclaporte me too!
[19:30] marclaporte Lots of work to do
[19:30] marclaporte Kaltura is insanely vast
[19:31] marclaporte I have an idea about tv.tiki.org
[19:31] jonnyb bit like Tiki then? :P
[19:31] marclaporte hehe, yes
[19:31] marclaporte not as vast as Tiki, but quite vast
[19:32] marclaporte We don't have images.tiki.org or text.tiki.org so why do we want tv.tiki.org ?
[19:32] marclaporte Why would video be treated different than other assets?
[19:32] * jonnyb misses TikiFests
[19:33] jonnyb fair point
[19:33] marclaporte Say I am in a forum post on tiki.org/forums, why can't I make a videopost?
[19:33] marclaporte recorded from webcam?
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[19:46] CIA-36 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r40597 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Make sure Kaltura session is passed always so that stats tracking is working on Kaltura side
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[20:47] jn__ Hi everyone
[20:47] jn__ I need help starting up forums in the wiki
[20:47] jn__ can anybody help me?
[20:48] jn__ Everytime i try to enter the forums it appears just a plain white page with a zero on the top left corner...
[20:49] jonnyb hi jn__
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[20:50] jonnyb have you tried setting error reporting on? (in admin/general)
[20:50] jn__ Hi jonnyb, no i haven't, ill give it a try
[20:51] jonnyb usually stops thos white pages
[20:51] fabricius Hi marclaporte
[20:51] fabricius [19:30]	marclaporte	Say I am in a forum post on tiki.org/forums, why can't I make a videopost?
[20:51] fabricius can't you?
[20:52] * fabricius is checking out two Tiki9 Branches
[20:53] jonnyb hi fabricius - need to eat, might bbl
[20:53] fabricius cool
[20:53] fabricius jonnyb: I have a phone conference in a few minutes anyway
[20:53] fabricius just say hello when you r back
[20:53] jonnyb :)
[20:58] jn__ Nothing happened, i configured it to report all the php errors and i still see the white page
[20:58] jonnyb jn__: which version of tiki?
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[21:0] jn__ 8.3
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[21:1] jonnyb might any of the file have got corrupted? how did you install it?
[21:3] jn__ i opened a hosting account with fatcow, and the hosting offers a script autoinstallation feature
[21:5] jn__ it uses simplescript service to do this
[21:5] jonnyb so should all be ok - sometime with ftp some files get mangled on the way up
[21:6] jonnyb do you know which version of php & mysql you have? (you can find out on admin/phpinfo)
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[21:10] jn__ MySQL 5.1.53 and PHP 5.0
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[21:14] jonnyb jn__:  should be ok (php is a bit old bit i guess you can't do much about that)
[21:15] jn__ :/
[21:16] jn__ I think I'll have to make a phpBB forum... it would have been ideal to have everything integrated, but i'm rather in a hurry.... thanks a lot for your support though
[21:17] jonnyb it usually works, sorry i couldn't help more
[21:19] jn__ no problem, thanks a lot
[21:21] lindonb jn__: is there a url I could look at?
[21:21] jonnyb hi lindonb
[21:22] lindonb jonnyb: hey jonnyb
[21:22] jn__ it is a closed project, in order for you to go in you woul dneed to register
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[21:22] lindonb jn__: ok
[21:22] jn__ i'm rather suspicios about the configuration of each forum
[21:23] jonnyb lindonb: been fixing up mobile mode for tiki 9.x - almost civilised now (you should get L to try it, bet he has lots of iPads etc! :) )
[21:23] jn__ perhaps is not working because of the mailing config
[21:24] jonnyb jn__: that should only stop people sending mails, it should at least load the list of forums (fora?)
[21:24] Bernard1 hi all
[21:25] lindonb jonnyb: will do. simply go to a tiki9x site with the mobile device or do I need to set a preference or something?
[21:25] Bernard1 jonnyb: got my mail about Share module ?
[21:26] jn__ jonnyb: it loads the list, all of the existing fora? are listed, but once i click on them, nothing appears
[21:26] jonnyb lindonb: use the mobile profile, it set up a perspective and stuff
[21:26] jonnyb Bernard1: think so... remind me?
[21:26] lindonb jonnyb: ok
[21:27] jonnyb jn__: so they used to work once? you say "existing..."?
[21:27] Bernard1 jonnyb: two file (tpl + php) are not enough to port the module in tw8.
[21:27] jonnyb Bernard1: oh yes - odd, don't think there are other dependancies
[21:28] jn__ jonnyb: No no, i just created them as an admin, but i cannot access them...
[21:28] Bernard1 jonnyb: where the content (what will be linked to : title, link, content body, etc) is composed ? (may be i missed it but i couldn't find it in tpl or php)
[21:30] jonnyb jn__: try one using the default settings - it could be a bug
[21:31] lindonb jn__: have you tried without the mail setup that you suspect?
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[21:32] jonnyb Bernard1: i thought it was all contianed in the module - it pulls the images etc in with javascript
[21:32] jonnyb everything else is in the module parameters
[21:33] jn__ lindonb: I didn't fill the mailing configuration of each forum because i didn't know what to put
[21:40] lindonb jn__: the mailing configuration shouldn't be a problem if you left blank
[21:40] lindonb urls in the fora links look okay?
[21:41] jn__ Well, thank you all for the support, I'll try phpBB
[21:41] jn__ Bye! :)
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[21:52] jonnyb maybe bbl, food time!
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[22:16] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4186 - - Blog posts with "Mark entry as private" are published in RSS feeds  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4186
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