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eromnegRobertPlummer: Hi Robert - just did a 'clean' upgrade from 8.x to svn9.x r41111 - and its looks pretty good to me - with one problem - the parameters for plugins in wysiwyg pages have double quotes around them when opened in the editor. [00:03]
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RobertPlummereromneg: I'm working on a big revision guys, but I need to step away tonight.
in short the new upgrade will allow us to upgrade when the time comes, but tiki 9 is not the time. 		[00:22]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r41113 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/Categorylist.php: [FIX] WHen requiredParents is not set, it should be all.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r41114 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/Categorylist.php: [bp/r41113][FIX] WHen requiredParents is not set, it should be all.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r41115 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/Categorylist.php: [bp/r41113][FIX] WHen requiredParents is not set, it should be all. 		[01:29]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03arildb * r41116 10/trunk/templates/addreference.tpl: [FIX] The wiki page Bibliography property displayed "Please save the page before creating the bibliography." even if the page is saved. [07:29]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r41117 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_figure.php: No changes - code styling only (seen on quality.tiki.org)
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r41118 10/trunk/tiki-report_direct_object_perms.php: dos2unix
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Just installed tikiwiki. for the sole purpose of testing the spreadsheet feature.
can't figure out how
to create a spreadsheet
I find plenty of doc on editing and using it, but not how to decaler it in the first place
declare 		[11:12]
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dagbah. finally. had to enable the feature [11:26]
xavidagb: yes
question about the interface for trackers: normally &cookietab=2 or &show=mod could be added to the url of custom links to point to the edit form for tracker items
in tiki9, the edit form is not in tab 2 but in tab 4 (if comments and attachments are enabled for a tracker)
is there a way to provide a dynamic way to say in a url: "open the tab with the insertiion form"?
mmmm, I already sayed the answer it seems: &show=mod
easy
xavi is always amazed of the ability to find his own answer when he does the effort to say explicitly the question for others.... 		[11:27]
fabriciusfabricius frequently makes the same experience [11:35]
xavi:-)
oh well, &show=mod doesn't work for tabs in wiki pages... :-/
while cookietab=2 yes
so, I'm still at the beginning... I wish there was a standard way to call the tab with the edit form... regardless of the fact that it's a tracker, or a wiki page with plugin tab where some tab holds the Plugin Tracker interface
anyway minor thing...
when dynamic tracker lists works again through plugin tracker (they don't nowaays in tiki9), we'll make the whole process to go through wiki pages, and solved issue
s/works/work 		[11:36]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41120 10/branches/9.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]Added missing link to edit perspectives under the admin menu [12:13]
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tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41121 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Numeric.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX]Fix description of field names and valid options to avoid
tikiwiki: missunderstandings as before. Full reference to which browsers use comma and
tikiwiki: which dot at insertion time moved just to the documentation page for that
tikiwiki: tracker field (could a direct link to the doc be added here?) 		[12:39]
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41122 10/branches/9.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Numeric.php: [FIX]oups
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41123 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Numeric.php:
tikiwiki: [bp/r41121,r41122][FIX]Fix description of field names and valid options to avoid
tikiwiki: missunderstandings as before. Full reference to which browsers use comma and
tikiwiki: which dot at insertion time moved just to the documentation page for that
tikiwiki: tracker field (could a direct link to the doc be added here?) 		[12:49]
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r41124 10/branches/8.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [bp/r41120][FIX]Added missing link to edit perspectives under the admin menu [13:00]
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ricks99hiya chibaguy [13:23]
chibaguyhi ricks99 [13:24]
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RobertPlummerpolom all [13:43]
xavihi RobertPlummer
bbl (time for lunch here)
oups, hi ricks99 and chibaguy 		[13:45]
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amette_polom [14:02]
amettesylvieg: did you once work on some tool to generate the RewriteRules for SefURLs automatically?! [14:03]
arildbamette: What do you need? To gen a web.config file from .htaccess can be done automatically [14:11]
ametteweb.config? [14:12]
arildbweb.config is implementing the rewrite rules on the Windows side....I guess that's not it [14:12]
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ametteah, ok, nope, that's not it...
... I want to say that /tiki-my_feature.php becomes /my-feature and generate the RewriteRules for this automatically...
... ideally the smarty parser gets it too and rewrites every occurence of {sefurl}/tiki-my_feature.php{/sefurl} (or however it is... ) to /my-feature 		[14:14]
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Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #4205 - - Plugin Code forgets word-wrap - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4205 [14:15]
chibaguyhi xavi (I was eating). [14:18]
ametteheya chibaguy :)
long time no see ;) 		[14:18]
chibaguyhi amette :-)
yes, a long time. 		[14:19]
ametteeverything fine over in chiba? [14:19]
chibaguyyeah, though there's a prediction for a huge earthquake in our area sometime in the next four years. [14:21]
ametteyeah, a friend of mine is in japan now since a year or so and it feels so weird to see him say in the the chat "ah, the earth just shook".. *G*
you don't happen to know about the SefURL stuff? --^ 		[14:22]
chibaguyheh, it's a strange feeling. actually I kind of like it (sort of exciting)... except for the possibility of damage and injury, etc.
No, sorry, I don't know about SefURL. 		[14:24]
ametteI believe that... it must be an amazing feeling... I mean.. the earth is moving! :D
ok, no problem, will wait for sylvie, I'm quite sure she did or planned it... 		[14:25]
chibaguyFeeling it move is strange enough, but hearing and seeing is even more bizarre, I think.
Tall buildings could be seen swaying in Tokyo back at the big quake in 2011. 		[14:26]
amettehard to imagine... it's really one of those things I'd really like to experience... but on the other hand: do I?
oh yeah, that must be an amazing sight! :) 		[14:27]
chibaguyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JQBGOliAcQ [14:29]
ametteamazing... what forces of nature... and how flexible steel and conrete is... [14:30]
chibaguyyeah, the new buildings here are built to flex with the movement. [14:30]
amettetaipeh with the big pendulum in it is the wickedest I've heard of so far.. :) [14:31]
chibaguyThere are different techniques to counteract the earthquake force, counterweights, flexible footings, etc. [14:34]
ametteyeah, fancy science :) I like smart engineering :) [14:35]
chibaguyyeah, some amazing things people come up with. [14:36]
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xaviJyhem?
see this: http://www.r-bloggers.com/big-data-r-and-hana-analyze-200-million-data-points-and-later-visualize-in-html5-using-d3-part-ii/
as I said, maybe huge data sets can be handled out of Tiki (with R or by other means) and get tiki display the results, etc (PluginR into action, or by other means, I guess)
this D3 thing seems interesting...
I guess in CoE you don't have 200million data points, but you never know how big datasets can become when doing some statistic analysis on real populations, etc (many points per person, etc) 		[15:54]
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xaviJyhem_laptop ? [16:01]
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RobertPlummeranybody know when jonnyb will be back? [16:11]
Jyhempolom
Jyhem just back home
jonnyb left the 11th, and I think it was for 2 weeks. So.. He might be back on his couch, recovering right now :-) 		[16:25]
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RobertPlummerJyhem I have an idea on fixing wysiwyg editor, but am having trouble executing, are you familiar with the beast? [17:14]
Jyhemnope, I favor the tiki synatx, and have no experience using the wysiwyg one since Tiki6 :-( [17:23]
RobertPlummerDoes anybody understand how ckeditor works in tiki?
it is just one bug code barf.
I don'
't mind editing the parser, but wysiwyg is just a mess. 		[17:27]
arildbRobertPlummer: I am a bit busy with other things, but maybe I can assist [17:42]
RobertPlummerarildb: I'm about ready to give up and revert everything that I and Jonny have done.
arildb: The solution for it isn't to fix it, it is to rewrite it correctly. 		[17:43]
arildbRobertPlummer: Certainly not something I am up to at the moment. If you have a specific question, maybe I can help (after dinner, which is ready now).... [17:44]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Error in size of text anchor links - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=43907 [17:59]
arildbRobertPlummer: still there? [18:07]
RobertPlummeryes [18:07]
arildbso, it sounds like you are struggling a bit with the CKEditor interface. I did a little bit of work on it last year, but not much. Primarily on the de/encoding side [18:08]
RobertPlummerarildb: Yes, I can see more now why we are pushing to use a simplified database storage. ckeditor & wysiwyg is such a touchy interface. [18:10]
arildbyes [18:10]
RobertPlummerJyhem, if we go ahead and convert things, we will need to start writing conversion methods for every type that was stored encoded in the past.
I have written 3, there could be many, I know we need to add tracks in. 		[18:13]
arildbI was getting coded content in the editor. The CKEditor will automatically encode/decode content. So, you must make sure that you are complying with that. [18:14]
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Hello people. Anyone around? 		[18:46]
ricks99yes [18:48]
RobertPlummerricks99: You around? [18:50]
swehesHehehe. [18:52]
RobertPlummerJyhem see email about entities please. [18:52]
ricks99hi RobertPlummer [18:53]
swehesNow I am. So I want to use the exact same setup of tiki for two websites with different domains and different databases. So backed up the db from the one and applied it to the second. Then copied all the files over.
what files do I need to go in and change to get the new files to read from the new DB? and where in the DB does it reference to the old domain? 		[18:53]
ricks99you can manually edit the db/local.php file of new "new" site to add the "new" db info
or, simply re-run tiki-install.php from the new site and re-enter your db info there 		[18:54]
swehesok. Second option seems easier.
Thanks 		[18:55]
ricks99in the admin: general, you'll want to change your cookie name/location too, to accurately reflect the "new" site domain
on the "select db info" screen of the installer, simply enter the new info
then you can proceed as an upgrade 		[18:55]
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swehesSo I went into new site and is trying to run the tiki-install.php and I get the notice that I need to remove the lock file. I removed it. And I still get the issue. So I tried something. I went into the old folder and remove the lock file and it now let me run the install script on the old site. [19:39]
ricks99the lock file on site #1 has no impact on running the installer on site#2 [19:40]
swehesI know. But somehow the subdomain of the domain is picking up the first old website. [19:40]
ricks99check your domain configuration. do you have custom reidrects in the htaccess? [19:41]
swehesgood question. Let me check
I just used the standard htaccess that tikiwiki comes with
no special redirects 		[19:42]
ricks99how about in your domain manager? [19:50]
swehesUsing ISPconfig [19:51]
ricks99browser cache? [19:51]
swehesHmmm. Could be. [19:51]
ricks99Theres no reason for a lock file in site#1 to affect site#2 [19:53]
arildbRobertPlummer: are you still there? [19:59]
RobertPlummerI am [19:59]
arildbI think I have identified the problem point for the wysiwyg encoding problem
In trunk:
Had: <p> my test page</p> <p> and some more text.</p>
Called: $parserlib->plugins_remove($edit_data, $noparsed); in tikilib line: 3938
require_once('lib/htmlpurifier_tiki/HTMLPurifier.tiki.php');
$edit_data = HTMLPurifier($edit_data);
$parserlib->plugins_replace($edit_data, $noparsed);
Got: "&lt;p&gt; my test page&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; and some more text.&lt;/p&gt; 		[20:00]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41125 10/branches/9.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Reverting the revert for encoding entities, we've gone too far to turn back now. [20:00]
arildb...By removing calls to parserlib the page saved os
ok 		[20:00]
RobertPlummerarildb: svn up, and lets kill this bug together!
(once and for all) 		[20:00]
arildbi.e. comment out the calls to parserlib? [20:01]
RobertPlummerarildb: try svn up first and we will go from there. [20:01]
arildbok [20:01]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03arildb * r41126 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] WYSIWYG pages now keep their format when editing/saving.
tikiwiki: The commenting out of the parserlib calls probably has some side-effects, but this is at least a step to get wysiwyg working again 		[20:09]
RobertPlummerDid you do it only in the case of wysiwyg?
That really needs to be the case, no? 		[20:10]
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arildbThe code is only called when: if ($html == 1 && $prefs['feature_purifier'] != 'n') {
all I did was comment out calls to parserlib
They did not properly restore the original state of the edit buffer 		[20:10]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41127 10/branches/9.x/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Rather than adding a new column for tracking status, added a new table 'tiki_db_object_status' this will affectivly allow us to track status of objects through the conversion cycle [21:11]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r41128 10/branches/9.x/lib/ (init/tra.php wiki/histlib.php):
tikiwiki: [FIX] translation was failing when upgrading by command line
tikiwiki: [FIX] Re-enable the history conversion 		[21:22]
arildbmarclaporte: On https://trunkdev.tiki.org/WYSIWYG+testing the drawing is not displayed. Does it exist?
If yes, how do I go about setting up this case locally? 		[21:30]
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never mind. I guess it's using SVG-edit. Will do a test [21:56]
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RobertPlummerI just committed and it didn't popup here.
changi|away: is that your turf? 		[22:12]
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hi
are you there RobertPlummer? 		[22:38]
RobertPlummerchealer: Hey buddy
chealer: I'm emailing you with the slightly complex, somewhat entertaining, mostly depressing story of recent. 		[22:39]
chealerOK RobertPlummer, I'll read that [22:40]
RobertPlummerchealer: Read through and let me know what you think.
chealer: I'm sorry if the class convertPagesToTiki9 is a bit too abstract, it should be pretty easy to understand once you know what is needed.
convertPages for instance
chealer: We have to check for pages that haven't already been converted and convert them. 		[22:48]
chealerRobertPlummer: wow, lots of meat here. reading... [22:55]
RobertPlummerchealer: fun stuff
chealer: The text is short, but the madness was great.
I suppose the class should be renamed to convertToTiki9 		[22:55]
chealer, what do you think?
I have a few fixes coming out.
testing first 		[23:05]
chealerRobertPlummer: I'm not sure, replying with some questions [23:06]
arildbRobertPlummer: Should I backport r41126, which comments out the parser lib calls before and after html, to 9.x? Or Are you making a fix in parserlib? [23:08]
RobertPlummerarildb: I'm going to make the fix, I'm not sure what that does, but if the html purifier isn't needed for the wysiwyg, it should only be used for the wysiwyg
I mean it should only be turned off in that case, sorry. 		[23:09]
arildbRobertPlummer: I think it's needed, and it's on by default. I won't backport then [23:10]
RobertPlummerok [23:17]
chealerRobertPlummer: I followed-up [23:18]
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RobertPlummerchealer: ditto.
chealer: I'm heading out for the evening, going to spend time with the family. 		[23:33]
chealerOK RobertPlummer, I'll reply later. thanks and good evening [23:37]
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