CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42021 10/branches/9.x/lang/ (ca/language.php es/language.php): a few more Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: question re: attaching documents and downloading them - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44227
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we tried all 3 options: yes, yes and force which is again yes
all 3 settings resulted in no number-prefixes in the toc
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and is there a function to add maketoc to each new article automaticly?
i guess no - as i stupled upon a pretty old ticket/request from marclaporte asking for something similar vmachine: joined #tikiwiki
Hello I have a wiki page i created how do i make it the home screen? fidel: not sure if you can define another page then HomePage as default page for all users - but how about just moving the content from page:WHATEVer to page:HOMEPAGE?
sounds like the easiest work-around vmachine: ok i will try that... i kind of new so im still learning fidel: vmachine: googling for 'tikiwiki define homepage' gave the following first hit - http://doc.tiki.org/Custom+Home
so now you have 2 options - hf vmachine: Ok ive changed it.. thanks Beestje: joined #tikiwiki
polom!
I'm working on a 1.9.11 tiki (pretty nostalgic) tikiwiki website. :-) fidel: Beestje: may i ask why you are using 1.9? ;) Beestje: I first made that site in 2005, did a rebuild of it in 2008 :-)
hosting company sent the owner a mail that it's getting too big, so time for a makeover! ;-)
I just have a problem getting the pictures from the website...
they're in the folder allright, but the filenames are encoded.
any way I can restore the pictures to the original filenames so I don't have to click on each picture and do a save as individually ?
if it's just 100 pictures, that would be fine ... but over a 1000 pictures seems a complete waste of my time :-D fidel: q: is there some kind of user-stats about activity of the user inside my tiki?
i.e. in mediawiki i was able to see the amount of edits per user
ok i found the statistics option CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42022 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: a few more (daily reports and many here and there) jonnyb: joined #tikiwiki
long time no polom! fidel: polom
;) jonnyb: hi fidel fidel: regarding the status function: it seems to ignore user-specific stats -- or am i wrong?
hi jonnyb Jyhem_laptop: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Using structures for menu's in Wiki 8.4 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44228 redflo: joined #tikiwiki fidel: hi - as the doc.tiki page seems to run unstable as yesterday as well - short question: how can i produce quoted text?
i tried several ways i found in different docs - i.e. using 2 spaces / using {QUOTE} etc ...but it seems like none is working
what is the supposed way in a default install to quote text
i dont see an option in the gui-editor either jonnyb: hi fidel - where doesn't {quote} work?
the one here looks ok: http://demo.tiki.org/9x fidel: lemme doublecheck - i used uppercase letters only
lol
uppercase {QUOTE}bla{QUOTE} does not work
but: {quote}bla{quote} works
is that supposed to be like that? jonnyb: think you might find {QUOTE()}bla{QUOTE} works (with brackets)
no, it wasn't really supposed to be like that but when it was changed to be consistent people complained it messed up old pages fidel: why isnt there a real closing tag for quotes?
i would have expect something like {quote}bla{/quote}
oh that works aswell
puh - getting used to tiki synthax - coming from mediawiki - is kinda hard
jonnyb: is there any formating page with examples you can recommend?
i found several ones - different states - not ose was really almost complete . or what i was looking for at that moment
background: i am writing an formating example for our users right now - but to do that i need to get used to the synthax myself first hehe jonnyb: have you seen: http://doc.tiki.org/wiki+syntax fidel: well doc.tiki.org seems pretty unstable for me since at least 2 days
but gonna try it again
thanks oncew again jonnyb: the help popup in the editor has all the main bits quite concisely - and if you use the plugin editor helpers (click the icons in the plugin help) then it gets the syntax right for you fidel: one last question: how would you close up a quote tag?
{quote}bla{quote} results here in 2 quote icons
{quote}bla{/quote} results in: bla {/quote}
{quote()}bla{quote} results in 2 quote images as well
well using code then - does the job aswell ;) Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4251 - - Freetags: feature requests for sorting and showing all tags - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4251 jonnyb: sorry fidel - using "code"? fidel: using {code}
as i seem unable to use {quote}/{quote()} or however it is used/called jonnyb: i don't follow - thats a different plugin but should use the same syntax fidel: which part should i explain again? jonnyb: did you try using the plugin helper? fidel: no - as i dont even know where this one is so far.
currently i am in the normal editing mode - trying to write an article jonnyb: click the help icon on the toolbar (blue disc with a ? in) fidel: but - ok - seems like i need to read up again whatever then jonnyb: click the "plugin help" tab fidel: i dont have that - might be theme based jonnyb: type in quote into the filter or scroll down to is fidel: jonnyb: thanks but i realize we are using way to different setups i guess jonnyb: oh? should be on by default fidel: gonna try to find a way
thanks anyways jonnyb: guess you must have turned it off or removed it from the toolbar? fidel: working on a v9b2 setup here
if so - my collegue jonnyb: or you could copy the example on http://demo.tiki.org/9x fidel: its just frustrating if you are messing aroud 15 minutes to write a quote
which should be done in seconds jonnyb: {QUOTE()}blah blah{QUOTE} works fine for me on 9.x
yes, that's what the helper stuff is for - wonder where yours went! fidel: {QUOT{QUOTE()}
~np~ __fett ~/np~
{QUOTE}
damn
mistypoed
{QUOTE()}
~np~ __fett ~/np~
{QUOTE}
does not fully work here - in my theory it should quote the non-interpreted wiki code
but seems like i am still misinterpreting
ah - again a typo - please ignore me ...i guess i got it jacmoe: joined #tikiwiki fidel: just one last question - which is for sure not answerable: why on earth is almost each wiki-project using another synthax? trac, mediawiki, tiki .... ;)
i get doku-wiki again is using another one hehe rodrigoprimo: joined #tikiwiki CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42023 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [FIX] parser: Prevent warnings caused by 41950 (unfinished work maybe? not sure if it breaks anything else... but stops it trying to load dozens of non-existent files) jonnyb: fidel: there was an attempt at a thing called wiki creole to try and join them all together, but no one really pushed it, so it faded away Jyhem_laptop: fidel: I think the problem is, they all have their drawbacks, and therefore nobody was really motivated with the notion of doing a lot of work to leave an imperfect solution for another imperfect solution. RobertPlummerMob: joined #tikiwiki
polom all jonnyb: polom RobertPlummerMob RobertPlummerMob: jonnyb: Most of the fullscreen code was removed because it was just too complex for it to not be buggy. jonnyb: but it worked mostly, now it's totally broken (in fact, just not written) RobertPlummerMob: jonnyb: THe easy way to fix it was to incorporate a parent object that had a seperate css class and just force the contained objects to stretch.
not there?
as in someone removed the code? jonnyb: looks like it to me
(you, i thought, no?) bart__: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummerMob: Oh right, I removed the old method and generalized the method used in codemirror.
The end result was pretty solid if I remember right.
It was all broken in the old method between browsers. jonnyb: was working fine in 5,6,7 & 8 (maybe not in some IE) RobertPlummerMob: Testing...
It may have been working fine, but if it was I wouldn't have rewrote it using jQuery.
If I remember right you thought it was a good idea because the code was a rats nets. jonnyb: but your version doesn't work, right? RobertPlummerMob: I'm checking, I had cartograf installed, cleaning slate now.
I just got in, working remote today (from coffee shop), connection is a bit slow.
jonnyb: I could be wrong about you approving, it has been some time. Either way, I will fix quickly, should be something small. jonnyb: fullscreen seems ok for me in http://demo.tiki.org/8x/tiki-editpage.php?page=dfgf
i know the code looked horrid - i wrote it :D RobertPlummerMob: Before jQuery, those were the days. jonnyb: i thought i used jquery - just badly ;)
actually it's the nightmare DOM in tiki that is was coping with - let's hope the new method is easily fixable RobertPlummerMob: Looks like the .TextArea-fullscreen has been removed, easy fix.
Something is just overriding it's position absolute jonnyb: yes, couldn't find any evidence of that class except in the js (eveer) RobertPlummerMob: Have you checked layout.css?
All it's rules are there. jonnyb: yes, but it's not in any php or tpl files Jyhem_laptop: polom jonnyb: was assuming it was applied dynamically
hi Jyhem_laptop
but can't afford to spend that much time on these kind of things at the moment RobertPlummerMob: agreed Jyhem_laptop: hi jonnyb Just the other day I amazed a customer with Tiki8's full-screen feature... jonnyb: :) -: Jyhem_laptop is drawn to read again http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html for some undisclosed reason benoitg: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummerMob: joined #tikiwiki
How is everyone feeling about a beta or release candidate for 9 sometime soon?
I will be committing a fix on the fullscreen issue in a few minutes, as soon as my connection allows. jonnyb, how is "Update issue from 8SVN to 9SVN or Trunk" looking? jonnyb: thanks RobertPlummerMob - which "update issue" in particular? RobertPlummerMob: Is there a possibility that 8 had more stored things that were html encoded?
jonnyb: That is the title of the thread.
Leu brought it up, some conversion issue.
It could quite possibly be that the is_html option isn't being set to true in all places it needs to be, thus turning < into &lt;
Like modules, toc, etc. jonnyb: could be - i thought he tried again and couldn't reproduce CIA-91: tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42024 10/branches/9.x/ (lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js styles/layout/layout.css): [FIX] Fullscreen setup needed tweaked for layout changes RobertPlummerMob: Finally! jonnyb: yay, thanks RobertPlummerMob radek82: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummerMob: jonnyb: I might have gotten side tracked on that one, it was the last blocker that I remember in addition to the fullscreen with textarea.
jonnyb: Can you confirm? jonnyb: will check the mails... RobertPlummerMob: Me too...
jonnyb: I can't find any. jonnyb: i just replied (i think) RobertPlummerMob: jonnyb: There is an issue with sheet rendering loaded values.
Perhaps a blocker. jonnyb: wiki fullscreen edit seems mended, thanks RobertPlummerMob (some weird vertical scrollbar issues, and no save etc buttons, but good enough for now!) RobertPlummerMob: But edge case stuff.
thanks jonnyb. jonnyb: http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+9x#General_regressions updated RobertPlummerMob: thanks jonnyb jonnyb: gottago - bbl RobertPlummerMob: joined #tikiwiki dhazel: joined #tikiwiki sandroandrade: joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki -: Jyhem_laptop wonders if anyone plans to attend https://tiki.org/June+2012+Webinar
marclaporte does marclaporte: Hope we can progress on Tiki9 fidel: q: do you guys have experience about possible slow-downs of tiki9? i am realizing my virtual server which is used to run tiki9 here is almost idle ram & cpu wise. But still the test-tiki-setup feels somehow slow if it comes to searching & loading pages
i've seen the major performance tab in the administration & enabled gzip support there
my feeling is that the title-completion while searching might eat a good part of my resources
any other experiences about slow downs - without seeing them in the server itself? RobertPlummerMob: fidel: It is my experience that tiki 9 is a bit faster than 8. fidel: ok
cant really tell - as i havent tested that much with v8 - and my test-scenario was my desktop. for v9 i am using a vm-server in our department RobertPlummerMob: But there are a bunch of different ways to analyse that...] fidel: any one you would suggest to go/test first? RobertPlummerMob: I know when it comes to the parser that it will be faster, we don't do as much html encoding... Only when needed. fidel: like focusing on apache itself at start? or checking general db -settings RobertPlummerMob: fidel: I would say the upgrade process is going to be much slower depending on how many pages you have because we have changed encoding techniques. fidel: or focusing on the settings tiki offers itself like cache/gzip etc
what do you mean by 'upgrading process'? RobertPlummerMob: fidel: And we convert each existing page, and then historic pages when they are visited. fidel: i am already on v9 now RobertPlummerMob: Oh, well then no worries. fidel: everything i mentioned from the last minutes was about v9 RobertPlummerMob: Jyhem_laptop: I hope to attend the meeting today, but I will see about time permitting.
fidel: 9 is going to be the most solid tiki yet, tons of refactoring and bug fixing to make it stable and efficient for LTS.
fidel: I would invite you to keep the latest svn of 9 installed and svn up often in a staging environment, finding bugs helps us make it much better for all. fidel: k - right now we are on v9b2
have migrated our mediawiki content to it and just fiddling way to much with permissions (major reason we are jumping from mediawiki to tiki)
considering setting up another test-box with the svn-source
how often does the current snv-code tends to temporary be broken from your experience?
once a month, once a week, several times a week, several times a day? ;)
just to get a feeling RobertPlummer1: joined #tikiwiki
FInally!
My connection is terrible today.
fidel: Did you get the info you needed? fidel: RobertPlummer1: not regarding stability of the svn-code ....but its ok. guess i should just try it
thanks for asking vmachine: left #tikiwiki RobertPlummer1: fidel: trunk is usually where the risk is, but right now in terms of permissions not a whole lot is changing there. Really just fixes. marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer1: fidel: That was refactored between 6 and 9.
fidel: I;ve been working on integrating a new wiki parser, but that is an optional and experimental feature at this point. jonnyb: joined #tikiwiki jacmoe: joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: Everyone coming to the webinar later i hope! :) info here: https://tiki.org/June+2012+Webinar rodrigoprimo: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem_laptop: yup. in 2h and a half marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem_laptop: in an hour marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummerMob: joined #tikiwiki changi: polom jonnyb: hi changi -: changi is thinking, why is it raining every 21 of june ? changi: jonnyb: hi jonnyb: raining here too changi: a little js problem for you jonnyb: nice in Oslo apparently
hmm? changi: ok, going to Oslo :)
jonnyb: i'm using the nice spreadsheet feature, and since Robert did a little cleanup, i'm unable to resize colomn and rows RobertPlummerMob: changi: is this in 9 jonnyb: sounds more like a RobertPlummerMob thing to me :) RobertPlummerMob: ? changi: RobertPlummerMob: yes
RobertPlummerMob: currently trying to fine since which commit
still working on demo.tiki.org/9x at revision 41992 RobertPlummerMob: This looks to be a problem with the new jquery ui, not sure why we upgraded that in 9.x with a freeze in place.
jonnyb: ? jonnyb: did we? (i?)
since 41992? (seem recent) RobertPlummerMob: r41835 perhaps? jonnyb: last one i did was on 28 march RobertPlummerMob: Or is that trunk only? jonnyb: no, the externals still aren't locked on 9.x RobertPlummerMob: I spoke to soon I guess. But I'm at a loss why this isn't working as I haven't touched resize in 2.0.0 in some time. jonnyb: should have been at beta 1 i guess RobertPlummerMob: Perhaps an upgrade is in order then if it fixes this functionality?
I'm so tired of this stupid resize issue with sheet. Browsers and their stupid table parsers! jonnyb: think the externals should be fixed now - RobertPlummerMob do you have time to? (i'm rushing to get something done before the webinar) RobertPlummerMob: Have time to what? jonnyb: fix the external lib revisions in 9.x? Jyhem: hi guys jonnyb: maybe put the ui one back to before that upgrade changi: I don't think it's an external problem, because updating my local checkout at revision 41992 fix the problem Jyhem: I suppose jonnyb means pin to a fixed version changi: it's a tiki code issus
hi Jyhem RobertPlummerMob: Right, let me check 41992 first. jonnyb: although i thought it best to try and make 9.x have the most up to date libs possible as it's going to be LTS (probably) Jyhem: hi changi jonnyb: hi Jyhem too Jyhem: hi jonnyb. RobertPlummerMob: jonnyb: I would say now is not the time to go changing, just because it comes out later doesn't always mean it is more stable.
In the past I remember we did this for 6, and it delayed the release. Jyhem: storm brewing here. the town has cancelled all music events they sponsor RobertPlummerMob: wow jonnyb: er, exactly - if they're "fixed" they won't change (or are you saying they are already?) Jyhem: dunno, just clarifying meaning RobertPlummerMob: no, no, you meantioned latest libs for 9.x, I thought you meant to upgrade. I will fix in their current place before release of 9.x in a few minutes. jonnyb: sorry no, that release of 1.8 ui is the last one they're doing before 1.9 so i thought best to use it
r41835 changi: which version of jqui are you using on http://code.google.com/p/jquerysheet/ RobertPlummerMob: 1.8.17
checking if this problem is in trunk
Yup.
I don't know what to do. Probably a load of work on my part. Jyhem_laptop: joined #tikiwiki changi: find it
jquery-ui 1.8.21 regression
using 1.8.18 it's reworking RobertPlummer: joined #tikiwiki changi: RobertPlummer: using 1.8.18 version of jquery-iu it's reworking RobertPlummer: Rollback in order? changi: RobertPlummer: maybe juste set the external link to a specific revision
s/juste/just RobertPlummer: changi: Which revision then?
I suppose you haven't gotten that far? changi: don't know for now just trying to test 1.8.20
1.8.20 => KO
1.8.19 => KO
1.8.18 => Working perfectly RobertPlummer: It may be a resize option, checking any updates there.
Like containment.
lol, it is
A new option.
And it is actually called 'containment', lol.
So let me put a fix into core for it.
core jquery sheet changi: RobertPlummer: you're the best :) jonnyb: http://tiki.org/live starting! :) -: changi connecting RobertPlummer: Found the issue, mouseover is being called over and over.
switching to mouse enter. vmachine: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Tracker field: item list - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=44235
New Forum Posts: Tiki 8.2 unable to sync groups with AD - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=17&comments_parentId=44234 RobertPlummer: changi: Can you take http://nextinfo.tiki.org/ out of basic authentication? changi: RobertPlummer: yes
RobertPlummer: done Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: how to work with item list? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=44236 changi: jonnyb: for the record 45 minutes to index dev jonnyb: coo, chewey
is the cron thing working ok now? changi: lot of pages including trackerlist
jonnyb: for now i do it manually jonnyb: yes, would be quicker if we migrated those to {list} changi: maybe
i can send you the output log if you want jonnyb: my japanese one has been running ok for a couple of months now every 24 hours (takes about 20 mins) changi: you will see which page take the most time jonnyb: not really thanks :) changi: jonnyb: a reindex ?
s/reindex/rebuild ? jonnyb: yes, rebuild
once it failed which block it running next time - didn't manage to work out a way round that (or send an alert) - still on my todo list Jyhem: how many tracker items for 45 minutes ?
or 20 jonnyb: about 12,000 in 20 mins
dev is extra slow cos of all the trackerlists in pages (we think) Jyhem: so for 100.000 items, some 3h+ jonnyb: ew changi: 4000 tracker item for dev Jyhem: Well, don't we want people to use Tiki for big stuff ? changi: yes Jyhem: the dev one has categories mixed in the tracker. avoided doing that. I hope it's enough changi: but the biggest part is tiki pages including trackerlist Jyhem: well, I had one with {report} and it blew the rebuild. Turns out it does not have inbuilt "limit" RobertPlummerMob: joined #tikiwiki
on me cell gents. Jyhem: I suppose trackerlist can be replaced with {list}. not so sure about my forked trackerfilter
wow, I need to find some irc client for my android