[00:53] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r42213 10/branches/9.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] syntax error [01:11] jjdash hi [01:11] jjdash how do I make a module that simply links to some url? [01:12] jjdash to https://biomech-wiki.ethz.ch/tiki-calendar.php actually [01:12] jacmoe joined #tikiwiki [01:20] jjdash hmm, is it possible to make a bookmarks menu that has as entries the bookmarks? [01:20] jjdash also: is there some way to group calendars? like cal1-7 belongs to group1 and cal8 to group2 or something like that? [01:20] jjdash one group would be for "machine reservation" and one for social events [01:25] jjdash hmm, is there a possibility to undo? [01:26] jjdash I just deleted 3 hours of work, damn [02:14] pedor hi, google has deprecated maps api v2 and it will stop work on may 2013, is there any plan to upgrade google maps feature to the api v3? [02:19] jjdash I thought ok redoing didn't take that long ^^ [02:19] jjdash -I thought [02:58] marclaporte About Maps: here is recent great use of Tiki Maps: http://profiles.tiki.org/Cartograf [03:06] goj_killedByISP joined #tikiwiki [03:12] pedor marclaporte: nice [03:42] marclaporte upcoming TikiFest: http://www.facebook.com/events/318582914897763/ [03:42] marclaporte pedor: you saw video? [03:43] marclaporte so this is all with OpenLayers so it can use Google Maps or OpenStreetMap [03:44] pedor marclaporte: yes, amazing [03:44] pedor really liked it [03:45] pedor there's a lot of options [03:46] pedor one thing I didn't understand is why i have to install a profile. i think i don't know exactly what is a profile, lol [03:53] marclaporte a profile makes you save time [03:53] marclaporte instead of doing all the configuration manually, it's a script which does it for you [03:53] marclaporte More details here: http://profiles.tiki.org/Welcome+to+Tiki+Profiles [04:25] pedor but it won't change my own configuration? [06:44] who joined #tikiwiki [06:45] who hello [06:46] Guest83623 left #tikiwiki [08:42] xavi joined #tikiwiki [09:05] redflo joined #tikiwiki [09:46] g0th hi, how can I make a module that links directly to some page? [10:34] g0th I plan to make a nice contacts db of all registered users [10:58] g0th I want to have several additional fields to the standard ones and I would like to present it in some nice way [10:59] g0th originally I planned to use a registration tracker, but you cannot register if ldap authentication is used (the user is "already" registered kind of) [10:59] lorinc joined #tikiwiki [11:00] g0th so my idea was to link the user to some tracker input page (his standard homepage) until he filled out all required fields and then link him to some other homepage, that's my first issue: how todo this? [11:00] g0th second one: how do I list all (or individual) tracker information together with already existing user information in some nice table? [11:01] g0th is there a template/documentation/plugin/profile for that? [11:03] g0th in general: how do I make one page display until a certain criteria is met and then display another page, in particular for the group homepage [11:35] g0th joined #tikiwiki [11:53] jjg0th is it somehow possible to upload directories to the file gallery? [11:53] jjg0th is the only option to first zip them? [11:57] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42214 10/branches/9.x/lang/ (ca/language.php es/language.php): a few more [12:00] jacmoe joined #tikiwiki [12:01] jjg0th how do I make a module that directly links to the calendar? [12:53] changi jjg0th: you can use webdav access [12:54] changi jjg0th: is it a link you want or display calendar ? [13:00] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42215 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: a few more [13:33] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [13:34] fabricius polom [13:34] fabricius I need a quick short help, but very urgent [13:34] fabricius I locked myself out from a website and need to reset the admin account from the server/database [13:34] fabricius I forgot the link and do not have much time [13:35] fabricius does anybody know the link to the docpage off hand? [13:35] fabricius I just to reread the steps and will know again ... just not sure off hand [13:35] fabricius pls [13:36] fabricius I am searching doc.tiki.org same time now [13:38] fabricius uhhh found it finally: http://doc.tiki.org/Lost+admin+password ... thx anyway, if somebody was checking for it aswell [13:42] RobertPlummer joined #tikiwiki [13:43] changi fabricius: ok [13:43] changi :) [13:43] fabricius :-) [13:43] RobertPlummer polom all [13:43] fabricius So I am back in the system [13:44] fabricius another question ... and I do not know if it would be a providers issue or a Tiki issue: [13:44] fabricius a website was moved from one provider account to another account at the same provider [13:44] fabricius website works, all links seem to be ok [13:45] fabricius I copied the website and did set it up as subdomain (to check the upgrade first) [13:45] fabricius I made the upgrade from Tiki 6.4 to tiki 9 SVN [13:45] RobertPlummer Have we found a possible project that could be integrated that guards against spam guys? [13:46] fabricius RobertPlummer: not yet I guess, but I am refusing most registrations since yesterday [13:46] fabricius RobertPlummer: will setup some questions for registrations to be more sure about the regs [13:47] fabricius RobertPlummer: asap [13:47] fabricius back to my problem: [13:47] RobertPlummer fabricius: I'm not sure how affective that will be. [13:47] RobertPlummer http://www.spambotsecurity.com/zbblock.php [13:47] fabricius when I type in a full domain with a page that I know, I can access the new upgraded wesite [13:47] RobertPlummer (I have very little experience with blocking spam) [13:48] fabricius but when I type in just the domain without any page (example.com instead of example,com/some+known+page) I am directed to a folder in the old account [13:48] fabricius what this might be? [13:49] RobertPlummer Drupal I don't think has a very good spam blocker, but I seem to remember that I've never seen it to bad with wordpress. [13:50] RobertPlummer http://mashable.com/2008/02/10/fighting-spam-wordpress/ [13:51] fabricius RobertPlummer: the problem at the moment is less the spam itself, but the registration ... they now do not use certain particular domains of their own, but they use webmail-accounts (hotmail.com actually) which you cannot identify first hand, without locking out non-spammers or non-robots [13:51] jjg0th changi: I tried webdav but it didn't work, I'm using windows 7 at the moment, I tried several different things [13:51] RobertPlummer fabricius: I disagree, those email addresses stink of spam. [13:52] ohertel joined #tikiwiki [13:52] fabricius I refuse them anyway, but I do not know if that is a longterm solution just to refuse what I THINK it MIGHT be spam [13:52] ohertel hello :-) [13:52] RobertPlummer polom ohertel [13:52] fabricius hi ohertel [13:53] RobertPlummer fabricius: http://doc.tiki.org/Akismet ? [13:53] RobertPlummer Do we have that turned on? Any way it could help us here? [13:54] RobertPlummer http://sw-guide.de/wordpress/plugins/simple-trackback-validation/ [13:57] fabricius RobertPlummer: I think, we might be talking about to different sides of the same medal (medal is Spam) [13:58] fabricius I understand you talking about SPAM content somehow delivered to our websites [13:58] fabricius but I am talking about registrations [13:58] RobertPlummer fabricius: http://bad-behavior.ioerror.us/about/ is compatible with our licensing. [13:58] RobertPlummer fabricius: If analysis is of the ip and headers, I feel this may be an affective strategy in preventing spam registrations and not just content. [13:59] fabricius simply: is there a way to detect or even better autosetect if a registration comes from a spammer or from a decent person [13:59] fabricius so you think with bad-behaviour it would be possible? [13:59] RobertPlummer bad behavior uses track back technology, which I believe is what you speak of. [14:00] RobertPlummer Perhaps an interview with the developer would be in line? [14:00] RobertPlummer (or we could simply try it) [14:00] fabricius hmmm I am in a big hurry to get the upgrade done, cause I have an appointment afterwords ... could we talk about that another time, when I would be more focused? [14:00] RobertPlummer fabricius: You got it. [14:01] fabricius generally I agree absolutely that we nedd a solution - even some trial [14:01] fabricius need [14:01] fabricius and bad-behaviour was mentioned before [14:01] fabricius I will have a look at it and we discuss it lateron [14:02] fabricius maybe a discussion will happen between you and s.b. else and you could foward the conclusion to me ... [14:02] fabricius just now I must do the work - sorry, no focus on that this afternoon [14:02] ohertel is captcha available for comments too? [14:05] fabricius btw: i found the problem with the redirect -> a bad configuration of the customer in his Tiki [14:06] RobertPlummer *high-fives fabricius* [14:07] fabricius *high-fives RobertPlummer* [14:09] ohertel *nine-to-fives work* :-p [14:10] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [14:17] ohertel how about adding captcha for like everything? for comments and registration validation too... [14:18] ohertel with alternatives like doing math ( what is x + y ? ) and randomly ask one of those pot [14:18] ohertel protection methods? [14:20] RobertPlummer ohertel: I think it would be a good idea, but I don't think it is the most affective. [14:20] rodrigoprimo joined #tikiwiki [14:21] ohertel just checked, akismet would cost us some money. $5/ month or more [14:22] RobertPlummer http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bad-behavior/ [14:23] RobertPlummer bad behavior seems to have great reviews from wordpress. [14:24] RobertPlummer http://www.ruchirablog.com/wordpress-bad-behavior-plugin-blocks-legitimate-bots/ [14:24] Jyhem_laptop joined #tikiwiki [14:25] RobertPlummer maybe it isn't a good fit if it blocks good bots. [14:25] Jyhem_laptop joined #tikiwiki [14:27] RobertPlummer http://bad-behavior.ioerror.us/support/faq/ at the bottom looks promissing [14:48] ohertel having a look later [14:49] benoitg joined #tikiwiki [14:52] Jyhem_laptop joined #tikiwiki [14:55] Jyhem_laptop_ joined #tikiwiki [15:01] Jyhem_laptop__ joined #tikiwiki [15:05] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [15:06] dhazel joined #tikiwiki [15:07] radek82 joined #tikiwiki [15:15] GillesM hello when I import Trackers from CVS I loose all the characters after accentued chars ... idea ? [15:26] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42216 10/trunk/lib/core/ (JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php WikiPlugin/ParserNegotiator.php): [ENH] Make plugin parsing optional for the negotiator [15:26] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42217 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/CKEditorNegotiator.php: [NEW] Create ckeditor's own negotiator [15:27] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42218 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/HtmlBase.php: [FIX] add Id as keyword [15:28] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42219 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [ENH] Use new ckeditor negotiator only if jisonparser is enabled and is is needed, still buggy, but proof of concept looks pretty good! [15:38] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42220 10/branches/9.x/lang/ca/language.php: typo [15:38] libs joined #tikiwiki [15:39] ohertel GillesM: hm, sounds like a bug [15:41] xavi left #tikiwiki [16:04] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [16:05] jonnyb it never rains but it poloms [16:09] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r42221 10/branches/9.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [ROLLBACK] Unnecessary fix in r42213 [16:16] libs joined #tikiwiki [16:17] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42222 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php: [FIX] Wrong reference to option [16:18] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42223 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/ParserNegotiator.php: [FIX] Wrong reference to option [16:21] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42224 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/CKEditorNegotiator.php: [FIX] Make wysiwyg work in new parser, WOOHOO! [16:30] ohertel woohoo :-D [16:37] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42225 10/trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/9.x 42207 to 42221 [16:54] jjg0th hi [16:54] jjg0th how do I get rid of the "map" in mytiki? [16:54] jjg0th I don't need any country/map information [16:58] libs_ joined #tikiwiki [17:05] libs_ joined #tikiwiki [17:09] ohertel i think there is no official way to disable it (yet). [17:09] jonnyb you could hide it with some custom css [17:09] jonnyb hi ohertel [17:10] jonnyb how's tiki.org now? avatar thing sorted out? did you ever work out what went wrong? [17:10] ohertel i would like to disable it completely too, because we use tiki in our company intranet. [17:10] ohertel jonnyb: temporary workaround. will have a close look into it next days. [17:11] jonnyb ok, let me know if i can help [17:12] jjg0th nice idea with custom css [17:12] jjg0th one issue [17:12] jonnyb isn't there a map feature pref somewhere? [17:12] jjg0th I use ldap but I also want to create separate (guest) tiki users [17:12] jjg0th jonnyb: I disabled all it still shows up [17:13] jjg0th I enabled "use tiki auth for users created in tiki" and created a guest users as admin, I then logged in (successfully) as guest, logged out and as admin assigned the user to another group, then I tried to login again but now it says "invalid password"?!?!? [17:14] jonnyb hmm, looks like it's not optional - an LP thing ;) [17:15] jjg0th any idea why I cannot login as guest anymore? [17:16] jjg0th I should mention that guest is no longer "registered" [17:16] jjg0th I moved him to "guest" [17:16] jjg0th hmm oh he still is registered [17:16] jjg0th but also guest [17:16] jjg0th but guest does not inherit from registered, anyway ^^ [17:17] ohertel <-- catching the train, laters! [17:17] jjg0th nooo! [17:17] jjg0th ok, bye :) [17:17] jjg0th hmm what is tried first? ldap or tiki? [17:18] jonnyb sry - never done ldap [17:18] jonnyb and need food, back later [17:19] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42226 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php: [FIX] Give negotiator access to skip the plugin parse [17:20] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42227 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/CKEditorNegotiator.php: [FIX] Give plugins layers to ckeditor [17:20] RobertPlummer On that last once, should have said 'levels', woops [17:20] jjg0th hmm, could this login failure be related to user trackers? [17:21] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42228 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiPlugin/ParserNegotiator.php: [FIX] Get more strict with result and iswaiting, don't want to process more than needed [17:22] jjg0th I can only login _once_ after that I can no longer login with the newly created user?!? [17:33] jjg0th hmm, I accidantely removed the admin from admin [17:33] jjg0th how can I add myself again? [17:35] jjg0th please! [17:35] jjg0th emergency situation [17:37] jjg0th I can access the db through phpmysql [17:37] jjg0th phpmyadmin I mean [17:37] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42229 10/trunk/lib/core/ (JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php WikiPlugin/ParserNegotiator.php): [FIX] parserOptions kept changing because I was not coping them at time of plugin creation and the position of the is_html [17:38] libs_ joined #tikiwiki [17:39] arildb Hi jjg0th: try to insert a row in users_usergroups, which linkes the user to the Admins group [17:41] jjg0th what do I put in created? [17:42] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42230 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php: [FIX] is_html needs to be in both places [17:42] jjg0th hmm how do I even add an entry [17:42] jjg0th and is that save? [17:43] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [17:46] jjg0th arildb: and for created I just put some number? [17:47] jjg0th yes! [17:47] jjg0th recovered [17:47] jonnyb jjg0th: done it? [17:47] jjg0th my current plan now is the following [17:47] jjg0th I give a user admin rights [17:47] jjg0th then I remove the admin from admin group [17:47] jjg0th then I login as that user [17:47] jjg0th and then I add the admin to the admin group again [17:47] jjg0th to make sure all is in order [17:47] jonnyb how did oyu remove admin from Admin? shouldn't be possible [17:47] jjg0th joined #tikiwiki [17:47] jjg0th re [17:47] jjg0th in admin groups [17:48] jjg0th in admin groups, I assumed it was not necessary to make the admin a group member because he is the admin [17:48] jjg0th and it worked without beeing a member before [17:48] jjg0th apparently I was mistaken ^^ [17:49] libs__ joined #tikiwiki [17:50] libs__ joined #tikiwiki [17:51] arildb joined #tikiwiki [17:51] * jjg0th feels very happy and recovered from a panic ;) [17:51] jjg0th well I still could have used an older backup [17:52] eromneg joined #tikiwiki [17:52] jjg0th arildb and jonnyb: thx for the help :) [17:52] jonnyb well done jjg0th [17:53] jonnyb it would still be useful to know how did you removed admin from Admin? [17:56] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42231 10/trunk/ (11 files in 8 dirs): [17:56] CIA-75 tikiwiki: [NEW] cookie consent feature: Force users to agree to accepting cookies, and avoid setting any until they agree (optional of course) [17:56] CIA-75 tikiwiki: This is to comply with the PECR EC Directive (Privacy and Electronics Communications Regulations) [17:56] CIA-75 tikiwiki: Various changes to setup were required to get things in the right order, and some to non-javascript and cookie handling were required, please test! [17:56] CIA-75 tikiwiki: (thanks eromneg) [18:01] RobertPlummer Anyone interesting in seeing something pretty cool: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=Website%20b forwardlink-protocol action going on! [18:01] RobertPlummer (look for the asterisk) [18:01] RobertPlummer and follow them [18:10] rodrigoprimo joined #tikiwiki [18:20] arildb joined #tikiwiki [18:21] jonnyb RobertPlummer: forward link looks like it probably works, but i'm still a bit in the dark as to what it's for [18:22] RobertPlummer jonnyb: It is really more for research projects, but it can be used with anything. In short you are writing an article on something. You want to link to it, but what if that link breaks? And how do you want the site you are linking to to know you are linking to it? [18:23] RobertPlummer jonnyb: the site you are using a contribution from highlights the text that you were interested dynamically. [18:24] jonnyb hmm, ok - i guess it makes sense if you need it :) [18:24] RobertPlummer And if the page changes, your link changes as long as the text you used to create it does. If the page no longer contains the text, you are sent to where it last did. [18:24] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I thought it was craze at first, but we could use it all over tiki man. [18:25] RobertPlummer jonnyb: You wanna run through a demo if it with me sometime? I'd like to get another developer to understand how it works? I'm writing the implementation guide right now. [18:26] fabricius hi robert [18:26] RobertPlummer hi fabricius [18:27] fabricius still busy with my upgrade, but one of two sites of the guy is restructured now, switched to SVN and upgraded and ... [18:28] RobertPlummer I hate "..." [18:28] RobertPlummer fabricius: What svn branch did he switch to? [18:28] fabricius I did switch him to 9 - why? [18:29] RobertPlummer fabricius: "..." [18:29] RobertPlummer fabricius: Everything go ok? [18:29] fabricius ah yes, smooth [18:29] RobertPlummer fabricius: I had a problem yesterday I deployed someone on 9 svn and there was a $this-> ref in the installer, but saw it fixed this morning. [18:30] fabricius on my own projects I work with pre-9 since last year, when it was a fresh trunk [18:30] fabricius hmm [18:30] fabricius this site is nearly only wiki and articles ... not using many features [18:30] fabricius but massively bad configured [18:31] fabricius and the server folder structure and all the naming of databases and stuff aswell [18:31] fabricius I am overviewing everything and do it like I think any tikiadmin would find everything in 5 minutes [18:31] fabricius clean root [18:32] fabricius then a system for every wesite [18:32] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r42232 10/branches/9.x/lang/es/language.php: a few more [18:32] fabricius webroot/websitename/files/subfolders and webroot/websitename/SVN_Version [18:33] fabricius websitename should contain teh maindomain of the installation and maybe a desciptive word, if necessary [18:33] fabricius names of dbs and dbusers same procedure [18:35] fabricius and all that has to be prepared before the svn checkout and then the issus when the customer complains what does not or not yet work due to his (or the providers) settings and you then have to fix afterwords (or before) ... [18:36] fabricius that is the "..." and yes I hate it aswell :-D [18:36] fabricius especially if I have no time and had different appointments whilst I am stuck for hours in a 30 minutes job [19:10] fabricius RobertPlummer and jonnyb and who is interested: How can I explain a customer, why I do not wnt to install a Tiki into the Tiki-root directory of another Tiki installation? [19:12] fabricius on his hostgator account there is one Tikisite setup with the primary domain, which only can be pointed into the over-all-web-root [19:12] fabricius thus all other websites would be installed in the root of the first Tiki installation [19:13] fabricius he does not understand, why I want him either use a subdomain for the first site or order another domain as primary domain to have the first one avalable as add-on and move the installation to a subfolder of the over-all-web-root [19:14] fabricius it technically would work - even with svn - but it would be a mess ... I do want a clean structure and not such stuff [19:22] fabricius I just find it strange to install one Tiki into another, whilst I even move the files directory one level up out of the Tikiroot [19:24] benoitg joined #tikiwiki [19:30] benoitg joined #tikiwiki [19:33] benoitg1 joined #tikiwiki [19:44] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [19:44] fabricius re [20:00] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42233 10/branches/9.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] css: Another missing dot [20:22] LooX joined #tikiwiki [20:23] LooX hi [20:24] LooX can I make an user an 'admin' of a group ? what I want is that this 'group admin' decides who joins (or kicks) from the group [20:28] jonnyb i think so LooX - but you need to make another group that is the "group admin group" [20:28] jonnyb tiki permissions are always for groups rather than users [20:30] LooX ohh nice.. i think i found how [20:31] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42234 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] cookie consent: Clear out all pre-existing cookies if consent required, allow login immediately once consent given (instead of after next page load), and set div colours always to be legible in all themes [20:48] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r42235 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-admin_actionlog.tpl tiki-admin_actionlog.php): [FIX]tiki_p_list_users is enough to see the users [20:48] LooX thanks, and thanks for the software :) [20:49] LooX left #tikiwiki [20:53] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42236 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [ENH] cookie consent: Add visibility filter for modules to optionally hide modules if cookie consent required (like the share module for instance) [20:58] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r42237 10/trunk/tiki-admin_actionlog.php: [FIX]actionlog: tikik_p_view_actionlog is engough to change the view setting [21:13] changi polom [21:15] jonnyb hi changi [21:16] changi jonnyb: i want to make some cleanup in filegallib to remove useless param, trunk or 9.x ? [21:16] redflo joined #tikiwiki [21:16] jonnyb probably 9.x - any risk? [21:19] changi jonnyb: don't think so, it only a matter of using "id" instead of "fileId", lp comment that in lib and i think someone need to do it [21:19] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42238 10/branches/9.x/templates/tiki-admin_menu_options.tpl: [FIX] menu admin: Hide pointless buttons (if using tabs) [21:20] jonnyb like where? (fileId is the column name in the db, right?) [21:22] benoitg joined #tikiwiki [21:28] changi jonnyb: just have a look at lib/filegals/filegallib +2316 [21:29] * jonnyb looks [21:30] jonnyb hmm, looks chewy, enjoy! :) [21:34] jjdash re [21:36] g0th jonnyb: About removing admin group from admin, I went to group admin, beforehand I decided to add admin to all groups, then I decided to revert that and clicked on remove. I thought I clicked on remove "Guest" or "Registered" but what happened was that the admin lost the admin group, so maybe I clicked on the wrong spot, or it automatically removed admin because admin inherits from guest/etc... [21:37] g0th anyway, fortunately with phpmyadmin it was rather easy to correct that [21:38] jonnyb hmm, thanks g0th - it shouldn't really let you do that, should it [21:38] g0th I thought so too, was too careless [21:39] jonnyb i'll check, thanks! [21:39] g0th maybe it was because admin inherits and I remove on of the lower groups [21:39] g0th maybe directly it doesnt work but indirectly it does or something like that [21:42] g0th jonnyb: maybe you can help me, I use ldap auth. and selected tiki auth for users created by tiki. So I created a guest user, logged in with it no problem, logged out and tried to login again but now it doesn't work anymore?! :( [21:43] g0th in the mysql database there was no password stored (I checked and there was no hash) [21:44] jonnyb i doubt you can mix tiki auth users with ldap users - don't know, never used ldap i'm afraid [21:45] g0th well it worked once [21:45] g0th and it works for the admin [21:45] g0th and according to the options there it is supposed to work [21:45] jonnyb admin is probably special [21:46] g0th another issue: wysiwyg vs. wiki syntax switching is extremely buggy [21:46] g0th is there some way to make it work? [21:46] g0th i.e. if I switch the edit mode it will change the page [21:47] g0th :( [21:47] g0th I applied the wysiwyg profile 6.something, it said I had to get rid of an error message for calendars [21:47] g0th maybe that messed stuff u [21:47] g0th up [21:48] jonnyb error message for calendars? not seen that bit [21:49] jonnyb the syntax switching can be tricky (if you're not using the "Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG" feature) [21:50] jonnyb because some html stuff you can do in wysiwyg cannot be reproduced in wiki syntax [21:53] g0th so I should enable wiki syntax in wysiwyg? [21:53] g0th nice, thx for the hint [21:56] jonnyb if you need to switch between the two editors a lot, it should be more reliable [21:56] g0th hmm but it doesnt support editing :( [21:56] jonnyb you in Tiki 9.x? [21:56] g0th yes [21:56] jonnyb how do you mean? [21:57] g0th according to the highlight text the wysiwyg editor is not supposed to work [21:57] g0th only in source mode [21:58] g0th still not working at all [21:58] jonnyb odd - plugin edit should work the same [21:58] g0th my main problem is that it is not possible to create a tiki user [21:58] g0th how do I make it possible that guest users can login? [21:59] g0th I have university users that can login using ldap but I also want to be able to allow an external guest to login [21:59] g0th :( [21:59] g0th the only solution I see is to completely drop the support for ldap authentication which is the backbone of my whole site concept [22:02] jonnyb can you not get the guest user created in ldap? [22:03] g0th I cannot change ldap stuff [22:03] g0th it is from the whole university, ofc I don't have root access to it :) [22:04] g0th so for collaboration we don't want to wait a day until the eth gives the external guy a guest account [22:04] g0th hmm, maybe one has to use a name that is not used yet, lemme try [22:06] g0th hmm, nope [22:06] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42239 10/branches/9.x/tiki-adminusers.php: [MOD] users: Add a stronger warning confirmation if removing admin from Admins (thanks g0th) [22:07] jonnyb re ^^ - seemed the best i could do, just added a clearer warning if removing admin from Admins [22:07] g0th wb :) [22:07] g0th what happens when a user logs in resp. logs out? [22:08] g0th somehow the settings (i.e. db) is changed and the user after this can no longer login [22:08] jonnyb when it did work (adding a guest tiki user) how about copying the pw hash from the database and adding it back in after it's disappeared? [22:08] g0th lemme try [22:08] g0th but that's no solution, just a test ;) [22:13] g0th that works! [22:13] g0th it even remembers it!!! [22:13] g0th so you just need to get this working from the wiki side [22:15] g0th oh no, it was the refresh command in mysql I guess that put back the ahsh [22:15] g0th hash* [22:18] g0th why was that not written anywhere? That's like the _first_ important thing to write about ldap authentication and the configuration even clearly suggests that it is possible to add your own users :( [22:22] stgenius joined #tikiwiki [22:22] g0th got it!!! [22:23] stgenius left #tikiwiki [22:23] g0th it was one of the following options: groupTracker, userTracker, syncUsersWithDirectory, most probably the last one [22:47] g0th (confirmed: syncUsersWithDirectory, makes sense that this has to be deactivated to make tiki users possible) [22:55] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r42240 10/branches/9.x/lib/menubuilder/menulib.php: [FIX] menus: When using the sectionLevel param, "promoted" top level items were getting a type of "0" but should be "s" (thanks luci & marc) [23:07] _qP joined #tikiwiki [23:29] CIA-75 tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r42241 10/branches/9.x/lib/prefs/cas.php: Add a default port for CAS. Thanks to Michael Jeanson of revolutionlinux.com [23:40] jonnyb that's all for now folks, more 2moro!