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[00:17] diadem jacmoe: hey there
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[00:47] digisus Hello! I just fucked up the Google Analytics by pasting the extend JavaScript code from http://doc.tiki.org/PluginGoogleAnalytics&structure=Documentation+TOC#Since_Tiki3 into the "end of code" text field. The result can be seen here: http://teach.digisus.com/tiki-index.php.
[00:48] digisus How can I get this code snippet out of the system without being able to access it right now? Direct db access?
[00:57] digisus Doesn't anyone have a hint for me? TIA.
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[01:07] diadem digisus: not having luck getting support either, eh?
[01:07] diadem hopefully one of us will get an answer at some point
[01:08] digisus diadem: hm, no. But then it is 1am (in Germany) and the question -is- very specific. Maybe I need to try again tomorrow when more people are around.
[01:09] digisus Wish you good luck in any case! :-)
[01:09] diadem thanks! i tried to ask my questions on the support forums, but the registration model didn't work
[01:09] diadem not a good first impression
[01:10] diadem anyway, i'm just still here because my cat feel asleep on me and i didn't want to wake her up.... so good luck and take care :)
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[10:29] Tiki-Newb hi everyone :)
[10:29] Tiki-Newb can someone help me with semantic linking within the wiki pages?
[10:54] fabricius hi Tiki-Newb what would be the problem?
[10:54] Tiki-Newb hi, so far I made it to implement semantic links in a wiki page. like this: (budget(6000))
[10:55] Tiki-Newb and expect i have a few pages about software projects which got these tokens embedded
[10:55] Tiki-Newb first question is
[10:55] Tiki-Newb how do I define a datatype for that tokens, so the mashine knows it is a number/integer
[10:56] Tiki-Newb and the second question is
[10:56] Tiki-Newb how do I run a query e.g. I want to know all software projects with a budget > 6000
[10:56] Tiki-Newb you would even help me if you can tell me that such things are not implemented yet
[10:57] Tiki-Newb do you understand my problem?
[11:22] fabricius oh sorry Tiki-Newb had to go afk and forgot to mention - reading now
[11:22] Tiki-Newb all right :D
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[11:24] fabricius where and how those projects are implemented?
[11:24] fabricius -> are this pages in the same Tiki?
[11:24] fabricius -> are they classified by category or what does "6000" means? It looks like a wiki page name.
[11:30] Tiki-Newb gave me a second
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[11:39] Tiki-Newb the software projects would be ordinary pages within the wiki ( a wiki-page). they could be classified as e.g. software-project.
[11:39] Tiki-Newb I search an ability of semantic links like in semantic media wiki
[11:39] Tiki-Newb to search after content with specific criterias
[11:42] Tiki-Newb the "page" budget isn't really a page. I read the docu and it said, that would be a token. And I understand it in that way that 600 would be tha value to that token. and that is the reason why i am missing a datatype declaration
[11:47] Tiki-Newb And a token is for my understanding a criterion that i can search after while doing a query
[11:58] Tiki-Newb In Semantic Media Wiki a query would looke like this: {{#ask: [[Category:software project]] [[end date::<<2013-01-01]]}}
[11:59] Tiki-Newb this one is related to the end-date instead of budget
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[12:26] Tiki-Newb do you have any idea, fabricius?
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[12:28] Tiki-Newb does anyone else has substantiated knowledge about semantic links/tokens within the wiki pages?
[12:49] Tiki-Newb nobody ? :(
[13:07] dennmans fraid not
[13:07] dennmans I know you can set semantic links but that is about the extent of my knowledge
[13:08] Tiki-Newb same here^^
[13:09] Tiki-Newb in Semantic Media Wiki Framework it is very intuitively but there are not any hints or information in TikiWiki :/
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[14:34] fabricius Tiki-Newb: re ... hmm I *think* the semantic links in Tiki are more relate to "similar pages" and what I understand about your needs would be more a filtering based on categories
[14:35] fabricius Tiki-Newb: If I understand you halfway right and if I remember the docs right, you want to filter classified content
[14:36] fabricius Tiki-Newb: I guess, that the feature naming is different between Tiki and Mediawiki and I think, that the use of categories is quite based on different thinking
[14:37] fabricius Tiki-Newb: think for example about the user and permission management - completely different thing here and there
[14:37] Tiki-Newb semantic links are even more powerfull than categories. While you were absent I read the tickets relating Semantic at the development page again and found out that this opportunity is not realized yet
[14:37] Tiki-Newb k
[14:38] fabricius Tiki-Newb: ah ok - so maybe you can get a bit forward with categories
[14:39] fabricius I think the difficulty is less to use the feature, but more how to organise categories for a) permissions b) navigation and c) classification
[14:39] fabricius you can use categories for many things
[14:40] fabricius and maybe semantic links as you understand (and as you say are mentioned at the dev-site) can be added later on
[14:40] fabricius just would have to prepare somehow
[14:40] Tiki-Newb ok , thanks so far :)
[14:50] fabricius np
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[16:57] Tiki_Newb hello agian
[16:57] Tiki_Newb may anyone of you explain backlinks to me?
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[17:23] fabricius and then you have a "backlink-plugin" or "backlink-module" activated, then you will be automatically shown (on page C) links to page A and to page B
[17:23] fabricius those links to A and B are the backlinks
[17:23] fabricius "the links back to the pages which are referring to the actual page"
[17:23] fabricius clear?
[17:24] fabricius so I have to correct my first sentence:
[17:24] fabricius a backlink is a link that points back to the content, which is referring to the content you are actually viewing
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[17:55] diadem_ I just installed a new version of Tiki on Windows 2008 R2 with PHP for IIS (and a linux mysql server). I get the default installation screen when I enter but as soon as I log in as admin I'm told I don't have permission to access the page. I checked the mysql database and it looks like user 1 (admin) is in the administrators group in the user_usergroups table. any idea what could be causing the above error?
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[19:42] diadem_ fabricius: Don't suppose you can help me out with an install issue i'm having since new registration for the forums is down?
[20:46] fabricius hi diadem
[20:46] fabricius diadem_:
[20:46] fabricius what's the problem?
[21:00] fabricius diadem_: if you mean the community websites: the registration is not down. did you register recently? maybe you have been filtered out by our spam-filter by accident
[21:01] diadem_ fabricius: sorry for the delay
[21:02] fabricius np
[21:02] diadem_ fabricius: When i went to tiki.com and tried to register it said my e-mail address was invalid, i didn't enter capacha (there was no capacha to enter), and said i didn't have permissions to add
[21:02] fabricius I am lagging aswell today ;-)
[21:02] fabricius oops
[21:03] diadem_ the issue I had originally was that in my own new install the admin user doesn't have permissions to anything. I took a quick look at the database and it looks like user1 is in the admin group but it still doesn't have permissions to even view the home page
[21:05] fabricius diadem_: I just tested the registration and it works
[21:05] fabricius cannot reproduce, sorry
[21:08] diadem_ let me try again
[21:10] diadem_ did you use https://tiki.org/tiki-register.php ?
[21:10] diadem_ did you use chrome? was the a capatcha image? are there some domains (gmail, etc) that are restricted?
[21:12] fabricius I did use tiki-register.php, yes and firefox and there was a captcha - which domain you are using?
[21:13] diadem_ I copied and pasted the exact url. odd
[21:13] fabricius ahh - seems to be no captcha in my chrome aswell
[21:13] diadem_ i know capatcha is sometimes fidgity about the exact domian name, though...
[21:13] diadem_ firefox it is, then
[21:14] diadem_ also, you mind if i message you the url for my tiki page with the admin username to see if it the error happens to you as well?
[21:15] fabricius kk -> query
[21:16] fabricius btw: which version of chrome do you have?
[21:16] diadem_ lemem check.. i've got it to autoupdate
[21:16] diadem_ fyi, can see the capatcha on firefox :D
[21:16] diadem_ 21.0.1180.83 m
[21:17] fabricius in my chromium 18 there is a captcha
[21:17] fabricius in chrome 21.0.1180.89 not
[21:18] diadem_ have a suspision that it may be automaticly locked becuase it's "insecure content"
[21:19] fabricius by chrome?
[21:19] diadem_ yes
[21:19] fabricius to your login admin problem:
[21:19] diadem_ and "it" being capatcha
[21:20] fabricius kk
[21:20] fabricius it is a fresh installation?
[21:20] diadem_ completly
[21:20] fabricius didn't you have to change pw after enter and lock?
[21:20] diadem_ can drop the database and delete the folder if needed
[21:20] diadem_ yeah
[21:20] diadem_ then i changed it back
[21:20] fabricius hmmm
[21:20] fabricius should better use 12345 or so
[21:21] fabricius lol
[21:21] fabricius ok
[21:21] fabricius s.th went wrong
[21:21] fabricius kind of locked out
[21:21] fabricius there are two prosedures to fix
[21:21] diadem_ now the first time i ran it it was under diffrent sql settings and didn't create any rows... then id ropped and re-created. wondering if php may have timed out during install
[21:21] diadem_ k
[21:21] fabricius a) in the database
[21:21] fabricius b) in the installer
[21:21] diadem_ k
[21:22] fabricius in this case I would first try the installer method
[21:22] diadem_ brb
[21:22] fabricius server-> tikiroot-> db/lock <-delete this file
[21:23] fabricius kk
[21:23] fabricius then run the installer and klich through until you find an option to recreate the admin
[21:23] fabricius try that first pls
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[21:35] diadem_ back
[21:36] diadem_ will do.. remoting into server,deleting file, then will crecreate admin
[21:36] diadem_ I have to ask.. are you one of the devs, or just very helpful?
[21:39] diadem_ will it matter if i reset the db password? I don't remember it
[21:40] diadem_ ah, nevermind, looks like the password is stored in plain text in the db folder
[21:40] RobertPlummerMob Jyhem , Jyhem_laptop: Hey bud, I'm testing the new parser, I'm getting mixed results with the initial homepage data vs an unedited save of the same data.  Wondering if you have much experience with encoding, which I think is the probem?
[21:41] RobertPlummerMob Jyhem, when I go to compare them, I get that they are identical each time.
[21:51] RobertPlummerMob Using mb_detect_encoding I get ASCII on both.
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[21:53] RobertPlummerMob One is stored as a blob, the other is text in the db.
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[22:09] fabricius hmm
[22:09] fabricius maybe logged out - lagging internet I hate
[22:09] fabricius hi RobertPlummerMob
[22:10] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: yo
[22:10] fabricius are you working on the actual parserlib.php?
[22:10] RobertPlummerMob jison parser
[22:10] fabricius ah different one
[22:10] RobertPlummerMob :)
[22:10] RobertPlummerMob why?
[22:11] fabricius getting a parserlib.php error in a module menupage visible for anonusers, for ex. when trying to login via tiki-login_src.php
[22:12] fabricius a fresh pre-10 svn up of a nearly productive site (actually running to add the content for start)
[22:13] fabricius s.b. must have the courage to test Trunk on small production sites :-D
[22:13] RobertPlummerMob :)
[22:13] RobertPlummerMob What line is the error on?
[22:13] fabricius it's my own one, so no harm to anybody
[22:13] fabricius 88
[22:13] RobertPlummerMob checking...
[22:14] RobertPlummerMob What is the error?
[22:14] fabricius mom
[22:15] RobertPlummerMob mom?
[22:15] RobertPlummerMob one moment?
[22:16] fabricius jep
[22:16] fabricius rehi
[22:16] fabricius Warning: array_merge() [function.array-merge]: Argument #2 is not an array in /www/htdocs/XXXXXX/tikiwebsites/wikiforyou.eu/SVN_TRUNK/lib/parser/parserlib.php on line 88
[22:17] fabricius the error is visible publicly and exposing the original XXXXXXed number
[22:17] fabricius and it appears in a menupage module
[22:17] fabricius I find that strange
[22:17] fabricius but just a little bit
[22:17] fabricius :-)
[22:20] RobertPlummerMob is there a stack trace?
[22:20] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: ^
[22:21] fabricius what is that?
[22:22] fabricius an array?
[22:23] fabricius i have ajavascript running on the HomePage, but the error appears from different pages aswell
[22:25] fabricius RobertPlummerMob:  new Info: when the error appears, then parts of the wikisyntax are unparsed
[22:25] RobertPlummerMob can you edit the file?
[22:25] fabricius headings appear as code, but link works
[22:26] fabricius yes, I can
[22:26] RobertPlummerMob lib/parser/parserlib.php
[22:26] fabricius yes I can
[22:26] RobertPlummerMob open it up, go to line 88
[22:26] fabricius a sec, I go there
[22:26] RobertPlummerMob Change:
[22:26] RobertPlummerMob ), $option);
[22:26] RobertPlummerMob to:
[22:26] RobertPlummerMob ), (array)$option);
[22:26] RobertPlummerMob Let me know what happens
[22:28] fabricius RobertPlummerMob: the error disappeared
[22:28] RobertPlummerMob Does the parser run somewhat correct?
[22:29] fabricius I guess this is a fix to be committed
[22:29] RobertPlummerMob Make sure the parser runs right.
[22:29] fabricius I do not know, how he runs, but the error is gone ;-)
[22:29] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: Now you can start helping with the migration over to the Jison Parser :)
[22:29] fabricius how can I make sure?
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[22:29] fabricius hehe
[22:29] RobertPlummerMob Look at the page and see if it looks right ;)
[22:29] fabricius page looks right
[22:30] CIA-97 tikiwiki: 03arildb * r42813 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] notification about invalid array to string conversion
[22:30] RobertPlummerMob commit
[22:32] fabricius you did or you will?
[22:33] fabricius or you mean I should?
[22:34] fabricius btw.: I need to know how to solidly integrate a jquery script into test-trunk - maybe into Trunk  lateron
[22:34] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: looks like you did.
[22:34] fabricius no I did not
[22:34] RobertPlummerMob what does it to?
[22:34] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: THen do it
[22:34] fabricius ok
[22:35] fabricius the script is a tag cloud
[22:35] fabricius one or different colors, or images with tag-weight feature
[22:36] fabricius see here: http://wikiforyou.eu - just a simple version of it - I implemeted it this evening, but not yet as jquery version
[22:37] fabricius I didn't get there and finally I had to use the standalone javascript version just to be able to demonstrate it (and I need some decent content :-P
[22:37] fabricius it is from here and under the LGPL v3: http://www.goat1000.com/tagcanvas.php
[22:38] fabricius with icons it looks awesome
[22:38] fabricius under the first example on this site there are a few buttons - one switches to images
[22:39] RobertPlummerMob The script needs to go into lib/jquery that is the lib
[22:39] RobertPlummerMob The script to call it should go in lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js
[22:40] RobertPlummerMob It doesn't always have to go into tiki-jquery.js if it isn't needed globally.
[22:40] fabricius ah there I was stuck
[22:41] fabricius I did alright put the script into lib/jquery, but nothing into lib/jquery_tiki
[22:41] fabricius and there is only one script
[22:41] fabricius and I did not get it running on the page
[22:42] fabricius anyway - that's why I ask ;-)
[22:42] fabricius when we would include the script we would also need some wikiplugin for it I'd say
[22:44] fabricius for the internet explorer compatibility (<9) there is another additional script, which has an apache lizence (it seems so) ... would have to check if that's Tiki compatible
[22:44] RobertPlummerMob Browser detection is usually a bad idea, fyi.
[22:44] RobertPlummerMob Not always full-proof.
[22:45] RobertPlummerMob foolproof
[22:57] fabricius yes, but with the "new" CSS3 and HTML5 we might fall back in old days, if we want to use stuff
[22:58] fabricius I tried a bit of CSS3 effects, but IE and Opera fucked half of them in a way, that I simply could not use them
[22:59] fabricius what's about twisting and turning round edged and gradiented menus and boxes, if half the users see just awkward black fields or scattered screens?
[23:24] CIA-97 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42814 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.js: [FIX] A few changes to get the js parser working again, been a while since any update due to focus on wiki syntax w/ php, where javascript now is going to be naturally supported
[23:26] CIA-97 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r42815 10/trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/ (Wiki/Handler.php Wiki/List.php Wiki.jison Wiki.js Wiki.php):
[23:26] CIA-97 tikiwiki: [ENH] Some code updated from jison js counterpart
[23:26] CIA-97 tikiwiki: [FIX] Found that line breaks were actually '\r\n' after initial save rather than just '\n' which is what the first homepage is set to. Fixed this in parser and list parser
[23:27] RobertPlummerMob [OFF] lets keep it clean fabricius
[23:27] RobertPlummerMob :)
[23:27] RobertPlummerMob fabricius: I know, I hate css
[23:28] RobertPlummerMob I'm done for the day.
[23:28] fabricius ok - I do not do so much anymore aswell
[23:29] fabricius but the guy (Graham) from goat1000.com is pretty cool
[23:29] fabricius nice dynamic telements, I was looking for since a while
[23:29] fabricius and under LGPL
[23:29] fabricius tsts
[23:45] CIA-97 tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r42816 10/trunk/lib/mime/mimelib.php: [FIX] Apparent incorrect copy and paste - $path should be $content.
[23:57] fabricius anybody there from overseas? NOT in timezone GMT+1?
[23:57] fabricius I did need a hand - just a simple check on my website, no login - a 20 sec job