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i'm thinking about areas & workspaces, could do with some input fabricius: following problem: I have been exporting a database with files stored in the database (bad, I know) jonnyb: like on what to call things (new fields etc) fabricius: now I am on the way importing the dump into a new database
for that I splitted the filestable and exported in certain steps (1 to 50, 51 to 100, 101 to 150 etc.) jonnyb: is this using phpmyamin? fabricius: so I have a full Tiki database and an empty table tiki_files
yes phpmyadmin jonnyb: ok, so limited upload size - it's a pain fabricius: I have now as above several sql files - parts of the one splitted table
when I import the second file, it overwrites the existing tables instead of just adding the next lines
what to do? jonnyb: odd - what does the 2nd file start with?
if exists tiki_files drop tiki_files? fabricius: ah!!
drop-table thing! jonnyb: and then create table... fabricius: I open and check
moment jonnyb: yes, remove the lines about drop and create table from each subsuquent file
or, re-export them as just data (i.e. no structure) fabricius: OK, maybe I'll have no time now, as I have to bring back my little son (who is baking pancakes right now.
I will first try with deleting the lines and then, if necessary do the export a second time
thx Jonny, I believe that is the problem changi: fabricius: you maybe have a truncated at the begining of the sql file fabricius: it is just about six or seven files, so not too much pain
changi: truncated? I'll check jonnyb: hi changi fabricius: there is the DROP TABLE IF EXISTS line ... I'll delete this jonnyb: and the create table block below it
you just want the INSERT lines fabricius: the create table block contains the condition IF NOT EXISTS
it seems to work ... first two files are there jonnyb: ok, so it should be ignored then
:) fabricius: have to go - see you later guys jonnyb: ok bibi lindonb: joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki amette: joined #tikiwiki
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files / location where the files were committed used to be shown too... or? lindonb: yes, used to be user, revision number, location and comment instead of link to sourceforge Tiki|bot: New Commit: arildb committed r43201 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43201
New Commit: lindonb committed r43200 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43200 lindonb: jonnyb: hi jonny jonnyb: hey lindonb - i didn't really mean for you to roll that notice fix back, more that i was too lazy to fix it! lindonb: ok, misunderstood
thought you were thinking it was a valid error to show jonnyb: so much of out code is only for testing upgrades (without flushing caches etc), it just makes it all harder to read
well, the notice goes away when the prefs are up to date
but most of the fixes you've been doing are valid, imho - thanks! :) lindonb: okay, i wasn't really aware of the distinction so this is helpful feedback jonnyb: less code is best lindonb: maybe it's a little fussy, but i dislike all the notices that appear on almost every page even with a fresh install jonnyb: some places i see lots of smarty issets over and over on the same var, when one line in php would have been best
you can turn them off! :D (but i know what you mean) lindonb: i think it gives new users a bad impression
that even the most basic pages have hundreds of errors jonnyb: well, they're not errors, as the code works
it's just php being picky, and if they really want to be picky they should use strong typing for vars
my 2¢ lindonb: you would prefer to ignore notices when we code?
i take your point that many cases should be fixed before the tpl file is reached jonnyb: no, i try and get rid of all of mine
notices usually expose a coding defect
i guess i'm just saying fixing them at the point the notice is generated is often too late really
i've often wondered why we don't use proper booleans in tiki, usually 'y' or 'n' - i'm sure it slow tiki down a little bit... (especially in smarty) lindonb: i agree with that one
most of the time I'm adding an isset or empty check and it would be the same check whether in php or smarty
so it doesn't seem to make that much difference, except when there are multiple checks in the tpl as you mentioned jonnyb: i guess so - but i still think that means the php is only setting a var sometimes, so is initially at fault
as i say, just my 2¢ lindonb: agree
it is some laziness or cautiousness on my part as it can be difficult to identify all the use cases when the tpl might be called and am also concerned about created more errors than I fix jonnyb: i often have trouble with conditionals (especially double negative ones) lindonb: lunch on the table - be back soon jonnyb: off for food too, bb lindonb: joined #tikiwiki redflo: joined #tikiwiki amette: codemirror is soooo cool, but sometimes damn annoying when it messes with your cursor position :-/ Tiki|bot: New Commit: amette committed r43202 to the Tiki SVN, changing 2 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43202 sylvieg: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem: polom changi: amette: +10 marclaporte: also, CTRL-F may be a problem Tiki|bot: New Commit: changi67 committed r43203 to the Tiki SVN, changing 2 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43203 arildb_: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: repolom jacmoe: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: New Commit: amette committed r43204 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43204 changi: fabricius: did you find how to insert your files ? fabricius: yes, but the last file seem to have broken the whole table - now I try to export just only as data, as you suggeste changi: fabricius: ok
marclaporte: i'm looking for a personnel GED tools, do you have a specific ? Tiki|bot: New Commit: arildb committed r43205 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43205 arildb_: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem: info: Gandi.net is a good place for buying SSL certificates marclaporte: changi: genealogy? Jyhem: :) dhazel: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem: GED: Gestion Electronique de Documents
Document management system, or whatever initials you like :) fabricius: General Educational Development
I would opt for this one, but it also could be for:
Gas Electron Diffraction marclaporte: Tiki File Gallery with WebDAV is good
OwnCloud is pretty cool too
http://dev.tiki.org/Areas+Perspective+Multi-domain+dogfood is a nice dogfood of PluginConvene. Am I the only one who gets UTC and not my own time zone? fabricius: marclaporte: this could be your personal setting
marc, let me do s.th. arildb: Hi, is there any way to have the "switch language" module limit the number of languages displayed to a defined set, e.g. for an english & norwegian site, only display the english and norwegian flags? fabricius: yes arildb arildb: how? ...I can't find such an option fabricius: tiki-admin.php -> i18n -> limit site languages ... ctrl+shift+click ... save
sorry, just doing s.th different, should have said straight away, not only yes
be back in a minute or so arildb: found it! Restrict supported languages
thanks fabricius fabricius: back ... sorted so? you're welcome
marclaporte: pls check http://dev.tiki.org/Areas+Perspective+Multi-domain+dogfood under the convene ... to avoid any future timezone missunderstandings, timeanddate.com offers free customisable clocks
btw: include of one of these "systempages" http://dev.tiki.org/System::Clocks amette: PluginConvene?!? w00t!! :D fabricius: never hear?
never heard?
it's great amette: used it two minutes ago for the first time fabricius: afaik it is one of these cool things made by RobertPlummer amette: RobertDoodle I'll call him from now on :P fabricius: hehe
do you like the clocks?