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[00:00] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [BRANCH] Creation, branches/10.x 0 to 43594
[00:00] Jyhem_laptop http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-list_users.php
[00:01] jonnyb we have sun
[00:01] Bsfez1 LOL at midnight ! (4me)
[00:01] fabricius tadaaaaa!!!!
[00:05] eromneg just switched two test sites to 'face the sun' ha ha
[00:06] eromneg how long before we get a daily build from the new branch?
[00:07] Bsfez1 checking out 10.x
[00:10] jonnyb just did "php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/10.x" and didn't get an error - must have finally fix that one! w00t!
[00:11] luciash coo ! :)
[00:13] fabricius damned, now I haveto do svn up again for a few websites, just to get enlightenment from our new SUN
[00:13] refizul Anyone experience with file permissions and ftp upload?
[00:14] fabricius heh working with 10 since a while and now it's BRANCHED! woohoo
[00:14] luciash damn: svn: warning: REPORT of '/svn/framework/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read response body: connection was closed by server (http://framework.zend.com)
[00:14] luciash zend has always problems with their svn servers
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[00:16] Jyhem_laptop Sooo. What is the commit order for Tiki9 ? trunk → 9.x ? 10.x → 9.x ?
[00:16] luciash refizul: on ftp upload u usually need 777 for writable dirs (unfortunately)
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[00:18] refizul luciash: it's more about chmod inside ftp upload tree
[00:18] jonnyb finally svn co ...10.x finished
[00:18] jonnyb hey marclaporte - 10.x branched
[00:19] refizul I try to describe the permission check stuff: https://doc.tiki.org/Permission+Check
[00:22] luciash jonnyb: tested and confirmed the menu items with quoted attributes work fine now with sefurls on
[00:22] luciash jonnyb: on 9.x
[00:23] jonnyb thanks luciash - i'd say "we" should release 9.2 asap (tomorrow for instance if changi is about?)
[00:24] fabricius luciash: can you please help me with my limited english and explain "quoted attributes"?
[00:24] luciash jonnyb: yep, looks good now
[00:24] fabricius I understand the words thought, but not the phrase
[00:25] jonnyb Bsfez1: in 10.x should the star name "Sun" be tr(anslated)? it never was before but maybe this time..?
[00:26] Bsfez1 :)
[00:26] refizul Tiki10 = Sun , Tiki11 = Oracle?
[00:26] luciash fabricius: menu items tags in html have attributes like target or title etc. and if their values were in quotes it was broken (encoded) when SEFURLs was on at upgraded sites from 9.0
[00:27] Bsfez1 jonnyb: again i have looked everywhere, Sun is the scientific name. (astronomical) Soleil, Sol, etc are common name.
[00:27] * Jyhem_laptop slaps refizul (no Oracle!!)
[00:27] luciash lol
[00:27] Bsfez1 lol
[00:27] fabricius ah yes - that problem --- target attributes for example! ... that's fixe now?
[00:27] luciash yep
[00:27] Jyhem_laptop About new commit order ?
[00:28] Bsfez1 jonnyb: i understand the problem but i vote we keep it simple.
[00:28] luciash if you want modify the field though you need to enable the tiki_trust_input perm on Security admin panel
[00:28] fabricius refizul: arrgl
[00:28] luciash which is fair enough
[00:28] refizul it is possible to chmod at FTP server via client (depending on setup, say: shared hosting) -- but is it possible to treat files and subdirs different?
[00:28] Jyhem_laptop I guess it's Tiki10 → Tiki9
[00:29] jonnyb Bsfez1: was just wondering... :P
[00:29] fabricius luciash, jonnyb ... "quoted attributes" fixed in 10 and trunk aswell?
[00:30] fabricius rereading bot messages
[00:30] fabricius ah yes
[00:30] fabricius fixed in trunk before branching ... smart idea jonnyb
[00:31] fabricius :-)
[00:31] Bsfez1 jonnyb: שמש ?
[00:31] Bsfez1 LOL
[00:31] fabricius sun Bsfez1
[00:32] fabricius 1zefsB nus
[00:32] jonnyb Bsfez1: whatever - just seems like start could be tr'ed like everything else
[00:32] * Jyhem_laptop takes silence as general agreement and commits
[00:32] * fabricius wonders what Jyhem_laptop is comminting right now
[00:32] fabricius -n
[00:33] Jyhem_laptop the fix to http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-list_users.php
[00:33] fabricius ah +1
[00:33] fabricius :-)
[00:33] fabricius :-P
[00:33] jonnyb to trunk oor 10.x Jyhem_laptop?
[00:34] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03Jyhem r43597 10branches/10.x/templates/tiki-list_users.tpl
[00:34] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Page was broken when users had chosen a country
[00:34] jonnyb ah, explains that one...
[00:34] fabricius jonnyb Bsfez1 Jyhem_laptop ... if a fix, shouldn't it go to 9.x aswell?
[00:34] fabricius all three?
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[00:35] fabricius rehi lphuberdeau
[00:35] Jyhem_laptop 10 and 9, assuming there are merges from 10 to trunk?
[00:35] Jyhem_laptop and after general silent agreement :)
[00:36] jonnyb merge to trunk should be (semi) automatic - backport to 9.x as you wish (preferably with reference to original commit it 10.x)
[00:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03Jyhem r43598 10branches/9.x/templates/tiki-list_users.tpl
[00:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX][bp/43597] Page was broken when users had chosen a country
[00:36] Jyhem_laptop please jonnyb :)
[00:36] jonnyb :)
[00:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43599 10branches/10.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php
[00:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [REL] branch state, version, star updates and some missing releases
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[00:40] Jyhem_laptop Was any place chosen for next TikiFest?
[00:41] eromneg bye
[00:42] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43600 10trunk/templates/tiki-list_users.tpl 10trunk/lib/setup/twversion.class.php 10trunk
[00:42] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/10.x 43594 to 43599
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[00:42] Bsfez1 aoutch...
[00:42] Bsfez1 Warning: require_once(Zend/Loader/Autoloader.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/sites/Avtalyon/avtalyon.org.il/subdomains/www/html10/tiki-install.php on line 30 Call Stack: 0.0001 643720 1. {main}() /var/www/sites/Avtalyon/avtalyon.org.il/subdomains/www/html10/tiki-install.php:0 Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required 'Zend/Loader/Autoloader.php' (include_path='/var/www/sites/Avtalyon/avtalyon.org.il/
[00:43] Jyhem_laptop sh setup.sh ?
[00:43] jonnyb yes, but merging worked :)
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[00:44] Bsfez1 already setup.sh doe
[00:44] Bsfez1 weird first time i have such prob (i installed a trunk a few hours ago same server) re svning
[00:46] jonnyb Bsfez1: btw, all i did was "php doc/devtools/svnbranch.php branches/10.x" on a fresh wc of trunk
[00:46] jonnyb then "php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/10.x" to merge changes in 10.x
[00:47] Bsfez1 "wc" ?
[00:47] jonnyb sry, working copy
[00:48] Bsfez1 :)
[00:48] Bsfez1 could have be Water Closet, War Commander and many more
[00:48] Bsfez1 ok i need coffee… brb
[00:49] jonnyb my http://localhost/tiki/branches/10.x/tiki-install.php seems to run fine - no errors here and i have them turned up high
[00:51] Bsfez1 ok svning a lot of files from "Fetching external item into 'lib/core/Zend'"
[00:51] Bsfez1 for some reason svn was not complete, but i didn;t get no warning
[00:52] refizul How does development continue now? Do I have to checkout 10.x now? Not yet familiar with new branches...
[00:52] Bsfez1 They were a warning (sry spoke too fast) but i didn;t saw it.
[00:52] Bsfez1 "svn: warning: REPORT of '/svn/framework/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read response body: connection was closed by server (http://framework.zend.com)"
[00:53] Bsfez1 refizul: now dev is still on trunck, but you should checkout 10.x for bug correction and improvment
[00:53] jonnyb just svn up again
[00:54] Bsfez1 i'm i'm :) It is just very slow
[00:54] Bsfez1 again
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[00:54] Bsfez1 "svn: warning: REPORT of '/svn/framework/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read response body: connection was closed by server (http://framework.zend.com)"
[00:55] jonnyb maybe sf.net are having trouble - had an odd email error earlier from there
[00:55] Bsfez1 … cleanup but yes seams to be some connection problem
[00:55] refizul Bsfez1: so permissioncheck improvement will be 10.x then? And this will be in trunk automatically, as jonnyb said?
[00:55] jonnyb refizul: currently 10.x is a copy of trunk (more or less)
[00:56] jonnyb 10.x installed, updated and runs fine here
[00:56] refizul jonnyb: yes, but where do I check in now? 10.x only?
[00:57] jonnyb yes, for any fixes for tiki 10
[00:57] jonnyb and scary stuff for 11+ still in trunk
[00:57] refizul Not the new stuff, I mean perm check stuff only
[00:57] jonnyb and/any
[00:57] Bsfez1 Don't if you read, fabricius, Jyhem, creating a wiki page using category perm work just as it should on TW6. So yes it is a regression and Tiki was set to work that way. ;)
[00:58] luciash Bsfez1: zend has problems with servers, svn up again
[00:58] Bsfez1 it is third time now… but i'll keep up
[00:58] luciash yeah, nothing else can we do :)
[00:59] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Bildergalerie - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=45443
[00:59] refizul fabricius: I'm lost now - what is "a wiki page using category perm work"
[00:59] Jyhem_laptop Bsfez1: I hope lphuberdeau is still around. He knows his way around category perms
[01:00] luciash refizul: 10.x branch, yes
[01:00] Bsfez1 Jyhem_laptop: he got no time for that...
[01:01] Bsfez1 i asked already
[01:01] luciash coffee break
[01:01] luciash jonnyb: approved ;) -> http://code.tiki.org/Commit+43595
[01:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r43601 10branches/9.x/lib/categories/categlib.php
[01:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Avoid PHP notices due to type mismatches
[01:05] Bsfez1 this time svn complete ! go
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[01:11] jonnyb i updated http://dev.tiki.org/Where+to+commit#Dashboard - does it make sense?
[01:18] Bsfez1 to me yes ;)
[01:20] arildb jonnyb: Will the r43601 be merged with 10.x, or do I have to do that manually now? ... I read you note ... downloading 10.x from SVN now
[01:22] fabricius jonnyb: where to update the version message(s) in new trunk from pre-10 to pre-11 (in which files about)
[01:22] refizul jonnyb: yes, it does make sense.
[01:22] fabricius tiki-setup.php? more?
[01:22] jonnyb hi arildb (looking, link would be quicker ;) )
[01:23] luciash re
[01:24] Bsfez1 http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki10 updated
[01:24] jonnyb no, that was in 9.x - no more merging from there, pls commit "fore-port" to 10.x and it will be merged with trunk soon
[01:25] Bsfez1 jonnyb: a regression from tw6 to tw9/10/trunk should be logged at http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki10#Regressions ?
[01:25] jonnyb it'll probably need it's own page
[01:25] jonnyb :(
[01:26] Bsfez1 lol
[01:26] jonnyb http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki10 looks fine, thx
[01:29] * luciash needs to create new branch folder and filter rule in his mailbox ;-)
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[01:35] jonnyb tee hee luciash - well spotted (tomorrow for me)
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[01:42] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [REL] version etc
[01:42] jonnyb had plenty for a monday - nite nite all...
[01:44] luciash :)
[01:44] luciash bbl too
[01:45] Jyhem_laptop nite all
[01:47] fabricius nite
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[01:50] Bsfez1 gd night
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[02:27] j0n3 bb
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[02:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Local file import to File Gallery or wiki page Attachment.
[02:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Uses file copy (on web server) instead of regular uploads. File must already be present on web server before import.
[02:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Not bound by upload limits. Enables import of very large files into Tiki
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[03:34] kstingel|hacking first set of PHPDoc block fixes is currently commiting :-)
[03:54] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03kstingel r43604 10trunk/ 10(326 files in 55 dirs)
[03:54] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] started adding missing PHPDoc blocks, may still need some editing if details
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[03:55] refizul 326 files in 55 dirs is "first set"?
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[04:14] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] link to doc.tiki.org/Permission+Check
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[05:43] kstingel anyone here with Ubuntu experience?
[05:45] kstingel am about to download and install on Laptop ... just wondering which version to download (12.04 LTS or 12.10)
[06:44] refizul kstingel: 12.04 LTS - because 12.10 is too new/fresh
[06:44] refizul you can upgrade later if necessary
[07:33] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: An automated page that creates category, file gallery, wiki etc. - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45447
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[10:21] ravi_ Hii expert.. is plugin necessary for spreadsheet and org chart ?
[10:21] ravi_ i have upgrade my tiki 6 to tiki 9.1
[10:23] ravi_ ????
[10:30] ravi_ ???
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[10:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ROLLBACK][r43603]Local file import is similar to batch uploads. Revert for now.
[10:45] Bsfez1 Hi arildb ?
[10:45] arildb hi Bsfez1
[10:46] Bsfez1 Hello, i see the rollback. That's cool we cold have an issue about it.
[10:46] Bsfez1 :)
[10:47] arildb similar to an existing feature. SO, rolled back. Fixed up the docs to
[10:47] Bsfez1 yes. About commiting to release 10, nobody likes rules but after several degradation we need to keep it solid (we have already so many regressions unsolved). tks to understand.
[10:48] arildb nop
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[11:39] rahul___ hii.. i have upgrade my tiki 6 to tiki 9.. but org chart and spreadsheet not working.. any solution for this ?
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[12:17] Bsfez1 rahul___: you shoud wait for RobertPlummer if he have time to help he is the man you need. :)
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[12:26] ravi__ i m using trackerlist...........in my form there are too many fields when i use trackerlist all fields shown in my trackerlist........is that possible to show selected fields in listing and in detail page show all things
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[12:29] j0n3 ravi__: sure, http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerList
[12:29] j0n3 ravi__: parameter like fields="1:3:5:7" is what you are asking for?
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[12:33] j0n3 ravi__: and you may want to use a wikipage template for custom shown data in trackerlist
[12:36] ravi__ in detail page shown all field ?
[12:43] jonnyb 10.polom
[13:00] j0n3 is doc.tiki.org down?
[13:04] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r43607 10branches/10.x/ 10lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js 10templates/comment/list.tpl
[13:04] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Make comment counter update dynamically as the comment set changes.
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[13:14] Bsfez1 We are starting a meeting about release 10. We will use BBB => http://tiki.org/live is some want to join us, it will be great to share.
[13:25] jonnyb just restarting the bbb session (probably)
[13:29] arildb Is dev.tiki.org down?
[13:30] arildb contact again
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[13:39] rahul__ hii expert.. i have upgrade my tiki 6.6 to 9.1. but spreadsheet and org chart not work.. so plz help
[13:40] rahul__ choya
[13:40] rahul__ chdya
[13:41] rahul__ ???
[13:41] rahul__ RobertPlummer r u there ?
[13:46] ravi__ any one know about mindmap?
[13:48] arildb In dev.tiki.org. I login and try to add an image to a page. When I start the File Gallery browser, I get: You do not have permission to view this section.
[13:48] arildb Can somebody check, please
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[14:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [fp/43605][ENH] link to doc.tiki.org/Permission+Check
[14:04] jonnyb kstingel: you about?
[14:04] jonnyb chatting with Bsfez1 and marclaporte in bbb about r43604
[14:05] marclaporte ravi__: dev.tiki.org/mindmap
[14:14] RobertPlummer I am here.
[14:14] RobertPlummer polom all.
[14:15] jonnyb hi RobertPlummer
[14:15] marclaporte ravi__: I want to setup a mindmap for the list of http://tiki.org/Teams and how they interact. What is your use case?
[14:15] marclaporte arildb: checking now. tks
[14:15] arildb thanks
[14:18] Bsfez1 Hi RobertPlummer
[14:28] ravi__ i need freemind browser plugin for shown mindmap in my tikiwiki site?
[14:33] marclaporte ravi__: do you aleady have a mindmap?
[14:35] marclaporte arildb: I changed permissions. Can you log out, login and try again%
[14:35] arildb will do. thanks
[14:36] marclaporte Also, about https://dev.tiki.org/Custom+installation+version, did you see? http://doc.tiki.org/System+Configuration
[14:37] marclaporte arildb: any reason not to track this custom ID as a pref in the DB? And thus, if you move the Tiki, the pref follows (but maybe that is what you are trying to avoid?)
[14:38] arildb marclaporte: I am rolling back the installtion version feature
[14:39] marclaporte oh, ok but let's find another way to address the use case :-)
[14:39] arildb I can now open the file gallery window, but there's no upload button. So, I seem unable to upload any images
[14:41] marclaporte I am so looking forward to Tiki Screencast for *.tiki.org, especially on dev & doc :-
[14:42] arildb yes, that's going to make things much eaier
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[14:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ROLLBACK][r43591,r43460,r43459] Tracking installation versions can be done in other ways, e.g.
[14:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki by using include_general.tpl in your templates/styles/yourstyle. db/local.php is also a candidate to store this info.
[14:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Rollback for now.
[14:49] jonnyb hey arildb - sorry we (i) seem to be making you undo so much work, suppose we should discuss more stuff like that here
[14:49] arildb jonnyb: No problem, Getting the evaluation of the Tiki community is a part of the process.
[14:50] jonnyb if it helps at all my first tiki commit was rolled back - i spent days on it getting it just right too :)
[14:51] arildb he he
[14:51] lphuberdeau must be something about rushing to push stuff in before a release ;)
[14:51] * Jyhem_laptop committed a translation as first commit. No risk. It was not rolled back :-)
[14:53] jonnyb brbwc
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[14:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ROLLBACK][r43591,r43460,r43459] Tracking installation versions can be done in other ways, e.g.
[14:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki by using include_general.tpl in your templates/styles/yourstyle. db/local.php is also a candidate to store this info.
[14:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Rollback for now.
[14:57] marclaporte arildb & jonnyb : one thing that Tiki is so much better than in the early years. : before, there was no little or no immediate feeback, so things would be added to main code bae, but it was very difficult to remove/change after a few months
[14:57] jonnyb indeed - some of it's still there! :)
[14:59] marclaporte jonnyb: hahahhahah
[14:59] * jonnyb feels brave, attempts a merge
[15:01] marclaporte jonnyb: Arild is reporting an issue to what I saw before: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-10-23,Tue&sel=245#l241
[15:02] marclaporte I reviewed all the permissions and there were some things not ideal, but it's all cleaned up now. But still not possible to add an image from the toolbar
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[15:02] jonnyb hmmm, "permission to view this section" sounds a bit odd
[15:03] jonnyb ok, different to what we were getting, but only on dev? (arildb - can you try the same on doc perhaps?)
[15:03] arildb trying doc
[15:03] marclaporte arildb: can you use https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-upload_file.php ?
[15:06] arildb jonnyb: doc works OK
[15:07] jonnyb hmm, curious (thanks)
[15:08] arildb marclaporte: upload_file seems to work...but it's slow. Haven't actually gotten anything uploaded yet.
[15:09] arildb uploaded OK
[15:12] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: I've debugged the link system and I've found that it is in-fact trying to lookup the page from the db, but getting no results from TikiDb->query() for some reason. What do you think?
[15:12] * jonnyb looks forward to drag and drop uploads with elFinder
[15:13] lphuberdeau RobertPlummer, where is it broken?
[15:14] arildb jonnyb: jcapture works great, but to upload existing images drag&drop is better...and users are familar with the process. Drag & drop will certainly be an enhancement
[15:14] RobertPlummer I look into tikilib->get_page_info(), I removed the "WHERE page = ?" from the query, and I get no results. I have a few pages at least that should be coming back to the unit test.
[15:14] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: ^
[15:14] lphuberdeau which test suite?
[15:15] RobertPlummer core/JisonParser
[15:15] RobertPlummer I need to commit my new code for the links processor.
[15:15] refizul JFTR: there are some problems at sourceforge at the moment, work in progress (MX and mailinglists are affected, too)
[15:15] lphuberdeau OutputLink has setWikiLookup() to set the lookup handler
[15:16] RobertPlummer I do have it set, and I've traced it, it is being called. Give me a minute while I merge these changes into 10.x and commit, that'll be clearer.
[15:19] RobertPlummer we are doing semi-auto merging now, right?
[15:19] RobertPlummer Bsfez1: ?
[15:19] jonnyb i have a branchupdate running now, RobertPlummer
[15:19] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Ok
[15:19] jonnyb expecting a few conflicts...
[15:20] RobertPlummer Initial merge?
[15:22] RobertPlummer jonnyb: ^
[15:23] jonnyb first merge went fine - seems i must have fixed the old problem of the [BRANCH] message having the wrong branch name in last time (or someone else did)
[15:25] RobertPlummer jonnyb: commit commit commit!
[15:26] jonnyb that was last night - still waiting for svn up here on trunk (taking ages!)
[15:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Timeout?
[15:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Shall I commit my stuff?
[15:30] jonnyb no, still going
[15:30] RobertPlummer grrrr!
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[15:30] jonnyb got the broken pipe bit now, so shouldn't be long
[15:30] RobertPlummer ok, very good.
[15:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Why do we get a broken pipe there? Funny.
[15:30] jonnyb where you want to commit to? 10.x? (go ahead, should be ok, will get merged next time)
[15:31] RobertPlummer Ok, perfect.
[15:31] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Just fyi, I had commits to both trunk and 9.x while merging and it all seemed ok.
[15:31] jonnyb one tree conflict so far (install_version_php)
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[15:32] jonnyb yes, if the backports are perfect svn can cope, it's when there are changes in spaces and tabs etc that i can mess up
[15:33] * jonnyb resolves the tree conflict
[15:33] lphuberdeau file additions cause more troubple than just edits
[15:33] jonnyb and removals (in this case i think)
[15:35] RobertPlummer oops, typo in commit, oh well.
[15:35] RobertPlummer commit message only.
[15:35] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Just committed to trunk, you will see the link handler handles externals as well, and it links up to the one used for the old parser.
[15:35] RobertPlummer sorry committed to 10.x
[15:35] RobertPlummer coffee...
[15:36] RobertPlummer ah, it failed, svn upping.
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[15:37] RobertPlummer Anyway, the link handler for jison will be found in lib/core/JisonParser/Handler/Link.php , which also processes the external links too.
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[15:40] Bsfez hi RobertPlummer back (everyone is hill at home i'm the only that still stand) :D
[15:40] kstingel jonnyb: you were looking for me?
[15:40] RobertPlummer as a side note, I created an alternate handler for CKEditor, it will be in lib/core/JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/Link.php if we need it, for the time being it will just extend the initial jison link handler.
[15:41] jonnyb hi kstingel - yes, re: r43604
[15:42] kstingel was just the PHPdoc commenting additions, no major changes ... just hoping to remove some of the reported API documentation errors
[15:42] jonnyb it's a big commit to have while we are doing this semi-auto-merging thing, would have been better before we branched or after 10.x has stopped merging
[15:43] jonnyb however, just done a merge and there were no conflicts so maybe it's ok
[15:44] kstingel apologies ... I thought the branching had completed ... will hold off on commiting any further 'fixes' for the moment
[15:44] kstingel am not changing any active code, just the inline comments, so shouldn't generate any conflicts
[15:44] jonnyb yes, branching for 10.x happened yesterday, but the merging will go on for a month or two
[15:45] jonnyb true - fingers crossed :)
[15:45] jonnyb and it's a good thing to have, so thank you!
[15:45] kstingel so, shouold I hold off, or keep commiting (in smaller batches) as I go?
[15:46] jonnyb ik - sf.net just refused my commit :(
[15:46] kstingel I crashed phpDocumentor ... so will need to reinstall before I can generate the Docs to test the changes
[15:46] jonnyb as you say, if you keep to comments that weren't there before there should be no conflicts, it's just if someone creates a new function or comment in 10.x
[15:48] kstingel I'm only comiting to trunk atm ... trying to keep my fixes to 'cutting edge' version, hoping to sort the API docs there, then looking to backport to 10, 9 & 6
[15:49] kstingel ... once I work out how to do a backport. haven't done one yet
[15:49] jonnyb 6 is only security fixes now, so too late
[15:50] lphuberdeau as a general rule, it's better to focus long term efforts on the future rather than the past
[15:50] RobertPlummer I think the svn is as slow as I've ever seen it today, wow, linke 20 minutes for svn up.
[15:51] jonnyb and i'm not sure if it's suitable for 9.x LTS really - it's a lot to review
[15:51] lphuberdeau RobertPlummer: too many externals
[15:51] jonnyb yes, i t ihnk sf.net are having troubles
[15:51] jonnyb lphuberdeau: also true
[15:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43611 10trunk/templates/comment/list.tpl 10trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js 10trunk
[15:52] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/10.x 43599 to 43609
[15:52] jonnyb finally! :)
[15:54] lphuberdeau RobertPlummer: lib/core/JisonParser/WikiCKEditor/Link.php does not exist
[15:54] RobertPlummer Right, I'm waiting on svn up to finish, and then I can commit.
[15:54] RobertPlummer On zend.
[15:55] lphuberdeau ah
[15:55] RobertPlummer sorry bud
[16:00] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: I need a tracker field that is a list of items from another tracker and allows you to pick one of those fields, which is it?
[16:01] lphuberdeau itemLink can do that for one item
[16:01] RobertPlummer Perfect
[16:01] lphuberdeau it also has options to support multiple items, but those don't really belong there
[16:01] lphuberdeau item list is closer to that
[16:01] lphuberdeau relations also handles many to many
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[16:04] RobertPlummer I keep getting timeouts on svn, I can't even commit.
[16:05] jonnyb maybe 10.x was just one tiki too many for sf.net? :P
[16:06] Bsfez :)
[16:06] Bsfez Nothing like the Sun
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[16:08] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43612 10branches/10.x/lib/ 10(8 files in 4 dirs)
[16:08] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Link processor, still failing unit test
[16:08] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: svn up
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[16:12] raj_ can u plz give me link where i download freemind browser plugin for tikiwiki?
[16:13] RobertPlummer marclaporte: I'm starting to use the client + contact side of the Invoice system I setup sometime back. I've added a new tracker I'll probably add to the profile.... "Projects". A project management system would be awesome if it tied into an invoice system.
[16:18] jonnyb raj_: try doc.tiki.org (didn't we do this yesterday?)
[16:19] marclaporte http://doc.tiki.org/MindMap
[16:20] marclaporte raj_: activate the feature, visit the page and it will tell you what to do (you need to download an extra file)
[16:21] marclaporte RobertPlummer: I think time sheets and invoices should be a native feature of Tiki
[16:22] RobertPlummer marclaporte: profile dependency, no?
[16:22] marclaporte There is a bit for invoices, connects to PayPal
[16:22] marclaporte RobertPlummer: I think that adds huge complexity for upgrades
[16:23] RobertPlummer marclaporte: I don't think it does, profile name initial "Invoice", upgrade "Invoice 2.0".
[16:23] RobertPlummer The name of the profile needs to change as the features become more rich.
[16:23] marclaporte trackers could be used to extend data for certain things, or to create things that are completely specific unique
[16:23] marclaporte RobertPlummer: Tiki Invoice needs to one day connect to Tiki Accounting
[16:24] RobertPlummer marclaporte: I understand that, but I feel that trackers could really be the backbone, a ORM for the programming side of things.
[16:24] marclaporte Tiki Payments, Tiki Credits
[16:24] RobertPlummer I feel if the trackers are used simply for storage, and the profile simply sets up the trackers, than there is little harm in using profiles. Though if we use profiles for the application layer, it could be dangerous.
[16:25] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: How we looking?
[16:27] lphuberdeau I think profile dependencies are backwards, profiles are supposed to assemble features that would otherwise be generic and usable in different contexts
[16:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r43613 10branches/10.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php
[16:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Version numbering must follow a pattern for checking to work
[16:32] lphuberdeau robertplummer: I'm still heavily annoyed by the amount of code duplication you introduce in the jison parser
[16:32] lphuberdeau that findWikiPage is a verbatim copy, you could have called the other one
[16:33] lphuberdeau or move it somewhere else but have both call the same one
[16:33] lphuberdeau same still goes for plugin execution logic
[16:33] lphuberdeau (kind of tired of repeating myself)
[16:33] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: That is something I've weighed, I've descided the lesss I touch the old parser the better.
[16:33] lphuberdeau I weight things differently
[16:34] lphuberdeau the more duplication there is, the less flexible we are
[16:34] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: that isn't always the case.
[16:34] lphuberdeau I'm pretty sure it's always the case
[16:34] raj_ @marclaporte:i already follow step link given by you......but mindmap not display
[16:34] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: :) Is that why you've duplicated tons of tracker code?
[16:34] lphuberdeau I did?
[16:35] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: I'd rather not debate, can we please focus on fixing these issues of phpunit tests?
[16:36] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: My goal is to make a stable component without breaking existing components, I'd rather not have a tracker repeat issue of 7 and 8 due to instability and code mutation.
[16:36] lphuberdeau I really have no interest in wasting time with that parser - none of the feedback I ever gave was taken into account
[16:37] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r43614 10trunk/lib/ 10setup/twversion.class.php 10core/Tiki/Version/Version.php
[16:37] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Versions must match a pattern for checking to work
[16:38] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: I did listen to much of your advice, I'd like to keep this professional, thank you for your recommendations.
[16:39] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: The whole goal of the new parser is to create a component that can be reused. The code may be initially the same in some spots, like externals, hot words, and smiley faces, but those are pretty insignificant.
[16:40] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: But that is only to simplify without taking on too much, I cannot rewrite 2 parsers, I don't have the financial backing, and I have little of your cooperation in helping. If you'd like to assist, please do so. If you like to help please do so.
[16:40] lphuberdeau the maintenance burden of having two copies is significant - I spent countless amounts of time reconciling diverging versions of code forked off in tiki - I know what is going to happen
[16:41] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: If you had attended the meeting on Thursday I feel you'd have a much better view of what is going on. Migrate to Jison by 12 or so, abandon old parser.
[16:41] lphuberdeau I've heard that a thousand times too
[16:42] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: That sounds a bit much, does tiki have that many features?
[16:43] marclaporte polom
[16:44] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Anyway, if you'd prefer not to help, that is fine, just say so, rather than calling the project I've spent 2 years and countless hours on BY MYSELF just duplicate code, when it is in-fact a very powerful component that can be reused, and provides 95-98% fresh code.
[16:45] RobertPlummer polom marclaporte
[16:46] lphuberdeau I think I have been clear on my reasons not to participate
[16:47] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Anyway, the issue I had asked you to help with has nearly nothing to do with the new parser, it is just a page lookup, which exists in tikilib.php. And the db component, which I have very little knowledge of. Have you had a chance to find out what the issue is there?
[16:48] lphuberdeau source of the issue: the function in charge of making the lookup is duplicated - verbatim - if there is an issue, I would have to fix both
[16:51] * marclaporte thinks Jonny's idea of a TikiFest is slendid!
[16:51] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: You mean that the tikilib->query() is used in more than one place? That is the source of the issue. So it is actually the inverse. You fix in one place, you fix in many.
[16:52] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Nevermind, I could have fixed it by now.
[16:52] lphuberdeau I'm talking about findWikiPage that is a copy of parser_helper_wiki_info_getter
[16:53] Bsfez When Marc the next TikiFest ?
[16:54] Jyhem and where?
[16:55] Jyhem Hmmm, tiki_sessions content looks incredibly unreliable :-(
[16:56] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: That is a simplified component, uses $this mostly so that is can be overridden in ckeditor's link processor.
[16:56] * Jyhem looking for a way to lookup if a user is logged in
[16:59] lphuberdeau still a piece of logic that is complex, and unrelated to parsing rules
[16:59] marclaporte Next TikiFest just needs to be decided.
[17:00] Jyhem I think the short notice might be a problem. Otherwise, splendid
[17:02] marclaporte Short notice is not a problem for Montreal (city never sleeps) :-)
[17:03] Jyhem I meant short notice for the attendees, not for the destination. As if Tikifesters had much sleep wherever the TikiFest :)
[17:04] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: That is why it is a handler, and not the parser
[17:05] lphuberdeau my point is that the lookup logic should be the same in the wiki handler, the ckeditor handler or the old ugly brittle parser - for as long as it's still in the codebase
[17:06] lphuberdeau (which I believe will be much longer than your estimate, but that's really just an opinion)
[17:07] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: I already started removing the ckeditor parts, which is why I duplicated that VERY TINY bit of code. They should be kept apart. And I'm not going to break current functionality.
[17:08] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Your opinion is well noted.
[17:08] lphuberdeau I still see all the logic about page alias and similar page being duplicated
[17:09] lphuberdeau that's just a bad thing to duplicate
[17:09] RobertPlummer page alias? No I didn't duplicate the page alias stuff, I upgraded it. They both use the same page alias.
[17:09] RobertPlummer Didn't look at it did you?
[17:09] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: ^
[17:10] lphuberdeau I looked at your handler and the old parser, function is the same
[17:10] lphuberdeau and it's not a tiny one
[17:10] RobertPlummer page alias?
[17:10] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Are you talking about page alias or about link handler?
[17:11] lphuberdeau lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Link.php line 216
[17:11] lphuberdeau that whole function actually
[17:12] RobertPlummer There are 28 lines of programatic code, there, that is tiny.
[17:12] lphuberdeau it's not!
[17:12] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Don't count the comments.
[17:13] lphuberdeau I don't care if it's 2 lines or 28 lines
[17:13] kstingel Jyhem: sleep??? not familiar with the concept, please explain lol
[17:13] lphuberdeau that type of code has complexity, hard learned, varies depending on plenty of conditions and preferences
[17:14] lphuberdeau those conditions are likely to change in the future, and when that happens, I don't want people hunting for 2-3 locations to change it
[17:14] lphuberdeau the whole plugin execution is an other example of the same situation
[17:15] lphuberdeau duplicating code like that is how mess is born, because people will fix their issue and not know about that other place where they need to make the exact same edit
[17:15] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Good grief, it seems like you are getting pretty stressed out over something that is not even done, I could not procede because I couldn't get the phpunit tests running.
[17:15] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: Calm down, please help to fix the issue that I brought up to you about the db, if you don't want to fix it THEN SAY SO!
[17:16] lphuberdeau I said I won't fix it
[17:16] lphuberdeau I've been trying to get you to understand why, but that might just be a lost cause
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[17:17] RobertPlummer lphuberdeau: :), I can tell you are passionate about code.
[17:18] * marclaporte wishes he could be around a table with some beers with Robert, LP, Jonny, etc. to discuss all this...
[17:19] * Jyhem also wants a beer
[17:20] marclaporte 11am too early for me
[17:20] Jyhem :)
[17:20] marclaporte well, for a first one, anyway :-)
[17:20] Jyhem 17h here
[17:21] RobertPlummer It is 5 somewhere.
[17:21] Jyhem I suppose you are not changing to winter time next week-end, are you ?
[17:21] Jyhem Because that would be synchro with us. Too much to expect
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[17:24] RobertPlummer source forge is down.
[17:25] RobertPlummer From my location.
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[17:43] kstingel is there a reason I am unable to edit my own tracker item on tiki.org? ... I can view, but there is no edit tab available
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[17:45] jonnyb kstingel: which tracker?
[17:47] kstingel jonnyb: the one that appears on "MyTiki" ... tracker8 (item2282)
[17:49] jonnyb you mean on https://tiki.org/my ? i don't get a tracker link
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[18:48] RobertPlummer is sourceforge svn down for you guys too?
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[19:01] arildb RobertPlummer: Unable to connect at this end too
[19:07] jonnyb can't seem to commit from here, but can svn up usually
[19:08] jonnyb failed this time :(
[19:10] kstingel jonnyb: http://tiki.org/my - (scroll down) My User Items, I click the link, and I only have view permissions, I can't edit the info
[19:11] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Do you know anything about why TikiDB doesn't seem to allow you to access some features while running a unit test?
[19:11] jonnyb sounds like the perms have changed (i don't have that as it's on your items)
[19:11] RobertPlummer I just got back to it.
[19:12] jonnyb RobertPlummer: sorry no, i can barely get any tests to run ever
[19:12] RobertPlummer jonnyb: Understood.
[19:13] kstingel jonnyb: who would I need to contact to fix it?
[19:13] jonnyb rodrigoprimo might know - TikiDb in tests?
[19:13] jonnyb kstingel: if you paste a link ti the tracker/item i can have a llok
[19:14] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: yes, ->query() comes back blank, very odd
[19:14] kstingel http://tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=8&itemId=2282
[19:14] * jonnyb checks
[19:17] jonnyb kstingel: try again?
[19:17] kstingel ty ... now I have the edit tab *does happy dance*
[19:19] arildb I am still having permission problems on dev.t.o. I was now able to upload an image, but I don't seem to have any permission viewing/downloading it. So, I am unable to integegrate the image afterwards.
[19:19] jonnyb had to re-enabled "Item creator can modify his items" on that tracker - wonder why it was off
[19:20] arildb maybe it's on. I just cannot find/see the item
[19:20] jonnyb sry arildb - that reply was for kstingel re tracker on tiki.org
[19:21] arildb yes, I saw that after writing...
[19:22] jonnyb which file? i see http://dev.tiki.org/dl64 there
[19:22] arildb jonnyb: not that one
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[19:23] jonnyb weirdly it says i uploaded that one
[19:23] jonnyb that's the only one in the root of filegals there
[19:24] jonnyb i just uploaded something ok
[19:25] arildb maybe my latest upload failed. jonnyb Do you have a chance to check my permissions.
[19:25] rodrigoprimo hi RobertPlummer
[19:25] RobertPlummer hi
[19:25] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo:
[19:25] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: sorry, what are you trying to do?
[19:25] jonnyb polom rodrigoprimo
[19:26] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: with TikiDb
[19:26] rodrigoprimo hi jonnyb!
[19:26] RobertPlummer run phpunit tests, DBTiki doesn't seem to return anything, even when there are no WHERE operators.
[19:26] jonnyb arildb: registered can do up and down load there, so no restrictions i can see
[19:27] arildb jonnyb: I tried an upload, and it seems to complete, but no information is given. That is, also no ID turned
[19:27] RobertPlummer if I have php unit installed, cd into directory lib/test/ and run the command "phpunit core/JisonParser" I get a failure, that runs fine with the browser.
[19:27] RobertPlummer Syntax: "((HomePage))"
[19:27] RobertPlummer Output: HomePage?
[19:27] RobertPlummer Which is fine, but the page exists.
[19:28] jonnyb arildb: from the toolbar? Yes, marclaporte found that - it works if you switch to "advanced" mode (no idea why)
[19:28] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: So I jump into where the query comes from, basically tikilib->get_page_info(), line 3831 of tikilib.php returns nothing.
[19:29] arildb jonnyb: advanced mode = open "Advanced options"?
[19:29] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: you mean this inside a unit test?
[19:29] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo, jonnyb: I want the jison parser to pass all tests.
[19:29] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: Right, the unit tests seems to be leaving out the connection to the database.
[19:29] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: are you aware that the tests use a different database?
[19:30] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: I am aware, but I thought that was just for testing, and results for phpunit.
[19:30] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: I guess that makes since, didn't think of that.
[19:30] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: Are there patches that can be applied to the db?
[19:32] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: yes, look for test classes that extends TikiDatabaseTestCase for examples
[19:32] RobertPlummer rod
[19:32] RobertPlummer lol
[19:32] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: Sorry, I will just add a page at runtime, easy fit.
[19:32] RobertPlummer fix
[19:33] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: ok
[19:33] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: if you want to check later: http://www.phpunit.de/manual/3.6/en/database.html
[19:34] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: for some tests that I wrote I used XML DataSet
[19:39] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: WOOHOO! We are back in business!
[19:39] jonnyb hurrah for rodrigoprimo (we miss you! :) )
[19:39] RobertPlummer Now we just need sourceforge back online.
[19:39] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: you manage to fix all the jison tests?
[19:40] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: I fixed the first one, fixing the rest now.
[19:40] rodrigoprimo RobertPlummer: great!
[19:40] rodrigoprimo jonnyb: I miss working it Tiki as well :)
[19:40] RobertPlummer rodrigoprimo: There was just a couple failing, wikilink and htmllink
[19:44] kstingel is sf SVN still down? I can't connect
[19:45] jonnyb yup, also just tried
[20:08] marclaporte http://sourceforge.net/blog/various-sourceforge-services-down/
[20:12] marclaporte refizul, jyhem & amette: any thoughts on https://dev.tiki.org/wish4319 ? Tks
[20:23] * marclaporte predicts an avalanche of commits when SourceForge comes back!
[20:25] jonnyb off out shortly, so more tomorrow
[20:38] Jyhem_laptop bye jonnyb
[20:38] jonnyb oops, better get going :) bibi
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[20:57] arildb I am having a look at the tiki-batch_upload functionality. The main mechanism uses a file rename, thus it avoids the upload limitatins. I did a test with a 700MB video image. ...
[20:57] arildb It failed to import. The reason is that the batch uploader retrieves the FileMetadata, and it tries to load the full content of the file. Which breaks several PHP limits
[20:58] arildb By commenting out the loading og the meta data the 700MB file was imported OK into the file gallery
[20:59] arildb A question is why does the metadata loads the full content.
[21:00] arildb The file imported OK when the meta data was dropped. So, should the batch uploader skip the meta data?
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[21:20] RobertPlummer polom marclaporte
[21:20] marclaporte so....
[21:21] marclaporte comparing http://nextparserdev.tiki.org/SVN+Tips vs http://nextdev.tiki.org/SVN+Tips is a good way to test new parser
[21:21] RobertPlummer marclaporte: How many pages do we have on dev.tiki.org?
[21:28] RobertPlummer marclaporte: Thanks! I just found and fixed a bug with the floating that {SPLIT} uses.
[21:29] RobertPlummer "---" Was being processed before being sent to the plugin, we needed to delay it by asking the parser if it is content or wiki syntax....
[21:29] RobertPlummer marclaporte: a very very complex call...
[21:29] RobertPlummer $this->isContent()
[21:29] RobertPlummer :)
[21:32] marclaporte Robert: check yellow note, top right: http://nextparserdev.tiki.org/SVN+Tips (line breaks are missing)
[21:38] marclaporte I activated stats: https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-stats.php 800 wiki pages
[21:45] marclaporte arildb: good question about metadata...
[21:46] arildb I am testing a modification now. The metadata loader will no longer load the contents when a filepath is specified.
[21:46] arildb Also setting the content attribute on the metadata to private, to avoid client usage of this value. Clients should not reply on metadata being a content loader
[21:47] arildb Adding to trunk soon. Can have side effects
[21:48] Jyhem arildb: what is in metadata ?
[21:49] arildb Jyhem see lib\metadata\metadatalib.php
[21:50] arildb class FileMetadata
[21:50] arildb {
[21:50] arildb public $currname = null; //working file path used to access file, may not be the same as embedded in file metadata
[21:50] arildb private $content = null; //file content. Set private to avoid having clients using metadata to access the file content
[21:50] arildb public $filesize = 0; //file size in bytes
[21:50] arildb public $basicraw = null; //for basic file information
[21:50] arildb public $basicinfo = null; //processed basic file information
[21:50] arildb public $typemeta = null; //array used to store metadata beyond generic file data
[21:50] arildb public $error = null; //error messages stored here
[21:50] arildb public $types = array ( //files types handled for extended metadata with values used for class and file name
[21:50] arildb 'image/jpeg' => 'jpeg',
[21:50] arildb 'image/jpg' => 'jpeg',
[21:50] arildb );
[21:50] arildb this is the new modified definition
[21:50] Jyhem I think a 700MB file is a valid use case but it is an edge case. My common use case is about 50 photos when i am back from holidays and i batch upload them all in a fle gal. That always worked very fine.
[21:50] arildb changed $content to be private
[21:51] arildb Jyhem: what if you want to store CDs or DVDs?
[21:51] Jyhem I agree it is valid use case
[21:52] Jyhem But for photos, meta-data is useful also.
[21:53] arildb yes, the same metadata is there (I hope)
[21:54] Jyhem I remember 2 checkboxes at bottom of batch upload. Maybe a 3rd could be : Speed up download of big files by losing metadata information.
[21:54] arildb It's just that the loading of the content is dropped when analysing a filepath, due to a possible excessive filesize
[21:55] arildb I hope all meta data is kept. I could not find any loss for the video file I tested
[21:55] Jyhem So you can try uploading a DVD with meta-data (which might work depending of your hardware and configuration). If it fails, you try again with loss of data
[21:56] arildb Loading a DVD in PHP breaks all kinds of limits. No need for such an option I believe
[21:56] Jyhem you mean due to timeout?
[21:56] arildb memory limit
[21:56] arildb typically only 128M or 256M
[21:56] Jyhem I thought you said you could load the DVD if you did not read meta-data,
[21:57] Jyhem [23/10/2012 21:04] The file imported OK when the meta data was dropped. So, should the batch uploader skip the meta data?
[21:58] arildb hm-m SVN still down
[21:58] arildb The metadata is loaded from the batch uploader
[21:58] arildb The modification is done in the Filemetadata class itself
[21:58] Jyhem Is that not what we are talking about ?
[21:59] Jyhem batch uploader?
[22:00] arildb Yes, the batch uploader fails because of the metadata handling for large files. This is now fixed, by changing the Filemetadata to not load the content when a filepath is analyzed
[22:01] arildb SVN still down. Will commit, when it's back up
[22:02] Jyhem So now you can get the metadata info without loading the whole data ?
[22:02] Jyhem Sounds great!
[22:04] arildb The only metadata collected from the filecontent was the length, and that can be determined differently. I could not see any more analysis of the content. However, maybe I missed something. Please give it a try once it's uploaded
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[22:08] arildb btw. the jcapture files do not contain any metadata. So, simply removing the metadata loading in the batch uploader is an alternative solution
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[22:10] Jyhem arildb: optionally. As I said, when dealing with photos, it would be great to have height/width/orientation and type
[22:11] Jyhem Whith a CD, the size is enough
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[22:16] marclaporte arildb: should jcapture have metadata?
[22:17] arildb works fine without it
[22:17] arildb However, the jcapture files were missing data in the tiki_files.user attribute. That's may be a bug. The username should be recorded for registered users
[22:18] marclaporte Robert: https://nextdev.tiki.org/Get+code vs https://nextparserdev.tiki.org/Get+code -> Please see: EC2 vs Please see: tw:EC2
[22:34] arildb does anybody know when we can see SVN to be back up again?
[22:36] marclaporte arildb: the guys at SourceForge are working on it. No ETA. http://sourceforge.net/blog/various-sourceforge-services-down/
[22:36] arildb thanks
[22:37] refizul polom
[22:38] marclaporte polom refizul
[22:44] refizul Still trouble with sf? Quote from their channel: "This appears to be a really bad week for the internet."
[22:45] refizul slashdot and thinkgeek were (are?) affected, too
[22:46] refizul What will happen when they find out? I mean - find out, that Tiki10 branch crashed 'em? ;-)
[22:47] refizul marclaporte: about that /tmp error - never heard about a situation /tmp is closed for users
[22:49] refizul and the link in the bugreport does not work actually
[22:50] refizul which is due to some problem with bug tracker - it ends with redundant ).
[22:53] refizul marclaporte: http://www.directadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37300&page=1
[22:54] refizul I suppose this to be a PHP issue rather than a Tiki issue
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r43615 10trunk/lib/metadata/metadatalib.php
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] tiki-batch_upload.php can now handle large files, e.g CD images.
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MOD] FileMetadata will no longer load the file contents when a file path is specified.
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Doing so will break normal PHP memory limits for large files, e.g. CD/DVD images.
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Determine filesize directly from the filesystem when a path is specified.
[22:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki The content attribute is set to private to avoid clients using FileMetadata as a file loader
[22:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r43616 10trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php
[22:58] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Make batch uploading and large file integration more visible.
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[23:19] marclaporte refizul: right, but can Tiki Check or Tiki Permission Check detect and report this?
[23:20] refizul marclaporte: yes, I guess this is possible with an easy check
[23:21] refizul I'll add it to permissioncheck
[23:22] refizul but this is info only, it needs to be added somewhere else to switch Tiki's tmp subdir
[23:24] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r43617 10branches/10.x/ 10(6 files in 5 dirs)
[23:24] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MOD] Add options on the menupage module to render wiki pages closer to the menu structure (expecting simple lists and nested lists), and base the source page name on the current default namespace
[23:26] refizul A question about adding: what is the frequency of manual merging?
[23:27] lphuberdeau when someone does it
[23:27] arildb lol
[23:27] refizul someone = any developer?
[23:27] lphuberdeau technically anyone can do it
[23:27] lphuberdeau realistically, a handful do
[23:28] lphuberdeau early on, it can be multiple times a day
[23:28] refizul in practice, by experience: each few days? once or twice a month?
[23:28] refizul a - ok.
[23:31] marclaporte every 20-30 commits seems good...
[23:33] refizul ok - I needed just a rough estimate. Still a new world here...
[23:37] marclaporte well, as often as possible, really
[23:37] refizul Then the 10.x commit will be in trunk 1-2 days later, I suppose. Can we enable permissioncheck on demo.t.o 10.x and link to it on doc.t.o? If so I'll do that. Or are there security concerns?
[23:37] marclaporte refizul: ok, to enable as there is nothing on that server but demo stuff
[23:38] marclaporte refizul: if you need something in trunk faster, just run the merge script. If there are no conflicts, it takes a few minutes
[23:39] refizul If I knew how to deal with conflicts I'd do this, but I don't want to mess up the repo
[23:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43618 10branches/10.x/lib/ 10(8 files in 3 dirs)
[23:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Fixes for lists and links to both pass tests, and aesthetically look correct
[23:40] RobertPlummer marclaporte: From this last update, http://nextparserdev.tiki.org/SVN+Tips is nearly identical to the old parser.
[23:40] RobertPlummer marclaporte: Wait until the next update fyi.
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