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marclaporterefizul: you can run the script, and if there are no conflicts, commit
If there are conflicts, just let it be and let someone more experienced handle it
it's easy when there are no conflicts http://dev.tiki.org/Semi-automatic+merging+period and when you do it every day, there are rarely any :-)
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refizulI added something, output is a line (not committed yet): ??? root root drwxrwxrwt 777 /tmp [00:06]
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refizulI wonder how to use environment variable in PHP...
won't work anyway - TMP may be empty
are there usesaces with other webservers or other operating systems which need to be considered as problem related to perm issues? 		[00:13]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43619 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/ 10index.php 03permission_granted.bin
tikiwiki [ENH] show permissions of /tmp 		[00:24]
refizullast night I had an idea about users' accounts takeover protection
depending on the environment sometimes a user has to use http at least temporarily
since the password is exposed and the account could be taken over, a second related account may be an idea, which is used only for resetting the first account
this idea can be extended to a superadmin account, where the password can't be changed by a normal admin 		[00:26]
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marclaporterefizul: the priority is really Linux shared hosting, but there can be some Windows temp dir not available (I guess)
refizul: anytime a password is changed, an email should be sent to that account
so if there was a highjack, we know quickly 		[00:30]
refizulwhat about changing email first?
I've seen the concept of admin and superadmin at postfixadmin.
demo: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/permissioncheck/
it's not enabled correctly yet, but one can see a problem with /tmp 		[00:32]
fabriciuspolom
just came home from work
reading back tons of mails 		[00:41]
refizulhello fabricius [00:41]
fabriciusanything in IRC happend, I should reread?
hello refizul 		[00:41]
refizulsf problems up and down, normalizing [00:42]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03marclaporte r43620 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/index.php
tikiwiki typo 		[00:46]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43621 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/index.php
tikiwiki [ENH] show permissions of /home and a not existing example 		[01:04]
refizulfabricius: take a look at http://demo.tiki.org/10x/permissioncheck/ -- especially /tmp almost at the bottom [01:04]
fabriciusrefizul: hum
you are comparing what is (left) and what should (right)?? 		[01:14]
refizulno - not there, because I cannot change server settings. [01:16]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r43622 10trunk/templates/admin/include_fgal.tpl
tikiwiki [ENH] Make a note about file directory being the recommended storage, when batch upload is active. 		[01:18]
refizulI do not know "should" (left) - but the "is" 333 is funny. You mustn't forget your filenames, or they are inaccessible [01:18]
fabriciusah I mixed up should and is [01:26]
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fabriciusyes ... but it is temp ... I do not often see 333 ... whilst i am just a newby to shell anyway
newbie
seems to english aswell 		[01:27]
refizuldemo is restrictive to /home [01:35]
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hello there
i have a few questions about the features of Tiki if anyone knowledgeable would like to help?
obviously i'm being a lazy nubbin and not reading the entirety of the guides first...
which i will surely do, once i'm confident it is worth investing the time (for features that may not exist or be possible) 		[01:35]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43623 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/index.php
tikiwiki [ENH] show permissions of /etc 		[01:38]
refizulbooksilent: what do you want to know? I still don't know much myself... [01:38]
booksilentrefizul: how extensible is the wiki-ness of the feature? That was not clear enough to me looking through the site... can every feature be wikified? Such as wikified forums?
or does it come with a 'wiki', and a separate 'forum'? 		[01:39]
marclaporteseparate
But the wiki way is all over the app 		[01:40]
refizulwhat do you mean by wikified? the features can be enabled and disabled seperately [01:41]
marclaporteSo wiki syntax is available everywhere [01:41]
booksilentso the forum could be wiki enabled? for instance, members of the forum could unitely decide on the layout, categories and running of the very forum they're using to discuss how to wiki their forum?
recursive, i know... but bare with me on this ^_^ 		[01:41]
marclaportehehe, ok, so you explain first, and then, we answer :-)
Tiki has a lot of recursive stuff :-) 		[01:42]
booksilentwell, that's really it in a nutshell... a forum that the forum members can change inside and out [01:43]
marclaportewhat could a typical user change? [01:44]
booksilenti suppose, if i thought outside of the box, a wiki could be used as a forum... but i digress
i'm glad you asked... that leads to my second yet equally important question 		[01:44]
marclaporteOn Wikipedia, they use wiki pages for discussions which you can do in any wiki, but we also offer threaded comments, and regular forums [01:44]
refizulthe members need certain permissions to change settings - this is possible by putting them into a group and assigning certain permissions to this group [01:45]
booksilentthreaded comments <3
^_^ 		[01:45]
refizulor you may turn forum on and wiki off, then use Tiki as forum only [01:45]
booksilentmy second question... Can the 'permissions' themselves be wikified? So some sort of democracy takes place... or are there any other systems of 'promotion'? [01:46]
refizulyes - by grouping permissions and adding users to several groups [01:46]
booksilentSo, for instance, some group of people have permission to 'promote' other, lower members, to their level, but no higher
and members with higher permissions can promote those lower to them, to their level
and so on 		[01:46]
refizulI'm not exactly sure whether a group can be given a grant option for others to join the group, but I think it is possible [01:48]
booksilentand are there any other methods you know of that are available for assigned permissions? Such as the dreaded 'post count' (will not use!), or 'voting' etc. [01:48]
marclaportehttp://doc.tiki.org/Group+Transitions [01:48]
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marclaportepermissions are based on groups and you can determine the workflow you want. Ex.: self-join, or people from group X can add people to group Y
or people apply to a group, but need to be approved by another group 		[01:49]
booksilentthat is awesome xD
thank you for your time refizul and marclaporte
I will read up on this link and perhaps discover i have found what i have been looking for! :)
oh, one last thing... curiosity kills 		[01:50]
marclaporteThis is the most important link: http://tiki.org/FOSS+Web+Application+with+the+most+built-in+features [01:51]
booksilentthe best example of a Tiki site in action? [01:51]
marclaportehttp://info.tiki.org/Featured+Tikis
Tiki covers so many use cases, there is no one best example
It's perhaps the last web application you will ever need :-) 		[01:52]
booksilentApproaching event horizion, indeed ;)
thank you for your patience and the links... feeling like i'm being lazy now... should find these things myself
may catch you around again!
must read... and, unfortunately, sleep
^_^ 		[01:53]
fabriciushehe marclaporte and refizul we should cut out this chat between booksilent and you two for the website revamp team [01:58]
refizulThis tmp etc home ... stuff is strange - shoulsd I replace that with an input form? [01:59]
fabriciusreally
with an input form refizul ?
do you mean that is the servers tmp?
<- two different questions 		[01:59]
refizulyes, user input /var/www/somewebstuff -> permissions of that path or file [02:00]
fabriciusstill not understand - you want to change things like in a php shell? [02:00]
refizulactually on demo? yes, Unix /tmp [02:00]
fabriciusnot on demo, but I can fly over
plenty of warnings in 10.x 		[02:01]
refizulI'm thinking of an input form where a user can request permissions from any file [02:02]
fabriciusahhh
nice idea 		[02:02]
refizulactually I implemented static /etc /home /tmp [02:02]
fabriciusand next step: change it, if php exec is enabled and finally disable php exec [02:03]
refizulI don't want to change things via php - this won't work in most cases [02:03]
fabriciusok, just an idea [02:04]
refizulprocess owner needn't be file owner
chmod can be done via ssh or ftp 		[02:04]
fabriciusif you have ssh [02:05]
refizulphp shell is very risky, BTW [02:05]
fabriciusi am pretty sure - in which respect you think risky? [02:06]
refizulI do not want a bunch of unexperienced users to shoot themselves into their feet [02:06]
fabriciusinto their knees [02:06]
refizulprovide information and let them use ftp or something better to fix whatsoever [02:08]
fabriciusyes and there are other risks, we need not discuss publicly
ftp is risky aswell ... especially if the user needs ssh and you did not run tiki-check.php and understood the messages
need not to say more 		[02:08]
refizulone more: the trouble shooting and bug reports arising in the Tiki community instead of where those things belong
forgotten to disable php shell would become the no1 problem 		[02:10]
fabriciusisn't both different things? and do you mean request for trouble shooting or what?
as said ... php shell nee not to be discussed - you know, I know and I agree with you 		[02:11]
refizulyes, request for trouble shooting - ftp itself is risky but out of Tiki's scope [02:12]
fabriciuswhats about sftp? [02:12]
refizulall use cases where users do not have ssh or sftp are possible, even if less secure -- we cannot do anything about that [02:13]
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refizulmarclaporte: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/permissioncheck/ [02:53]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43624 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/index.php
tikiwiki [ENH] input form to request file permissions, disable: show permissions of /etc /home and a not existing example 		[02:54]
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polom. Is there a way to have applied a css rule/class from eg. wiki page "css-wiki" to be apllied @ a pligin {DIV} on another page/s 		[08:23]
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goal: to use a wiki page as code source for other pages [08:46]
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fabriciusyou mean use wki page as another custom code area? [08:56]
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coaboa;-) basically yes. but with revison control code highlighting and so forth.. [09:13]
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Hi expert.. plz help for Org Chart.. its not display in upgrade version of 9.1 		[09:13]
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arildbI am looking at http://www.symbaloo.com/ they use a large icon command display. Similar "command listings" are now found in other systems. Are there any Tiki functionality/modules for such interfaces (other than building from scratch). [11:58]
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changimarclaporte: internet problem :)
changi switching next* on Tiki10
Bsfez: ping 		[12:51]
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marclaportechangi: you will be very popular (in demand) in the coming weeks :-) [13:02]
changimarclaporte: why ?
packaging and switching websites to their correct branch ? 		[13:07]
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polom 		[13:13]
changijonnyb: hi [13:15]
jonnybhi changi, you well? [13:15]
changiyes fine and you [13:15]
jonnybgood thx - except i have to go out soon and lie under my car in the rain (to try and fix the brakes!) [13:16]
changioh, svn up brakes doesn't work :)
? 		[13:16]
jonnybany reason not to release 9.2? i don't know of any blockers and it's so much better than 9.1 in many respects i think it's ready to go (when you are)
would be more like: svn cleanup brakes 		[13:17]
changijonnyb: just waiting for a go to release 9.2
jonnyb: i'm switching all next* to 10.x 		[13:18]
jonnybsuper, thanks changi
is sf.net better today? was poorly all yesterday, poor thing! 		[13:20]
changijonnyb: yes it's working now [13:21]
jonnybtrying a left over from yesterday morning... [13:21]
changijonnyb: i was having trouble for 8 hours yesterday [13:21]
jonnyblooks good, no error [13:21]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43628 10branches/10.x/ 10styles/fivealive.css 10templates/modules/mod-quickadmin.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] quickadmin: Most themes have the "quickadmin" title hidden, so remove from tpl, and style menu ul to be inline to keep things tidy.
tikiwiki Also some colour fixes for fivealive - other themes are functional but could be prettier 		[13:22]
jonnybchangi: did you make this new KGB bot? (is very nice, thanks!) [13:22]
changijonnyb: yes it's me [13:23]
jonnybre 9.2 - i don't see anything here that looks like a blocker: http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+9x [13:23]
changijonnyb: it's based on a opensource tool available in Debian
jonnyb: so 9.2 in 10 minutes :) 		[13:24]
jonnybwhere are you getting the data for that feed from? i looked around when CIA went away and couldn't find much
Allez changi! :) 		[13:24]
changijonnyb: the local repos sync from sf.net (the same i gave you when you came in strasbourg) [13:25]
jonnybah right, yes mine broke and i couldn't repair it :(
jonnyb really should try and understand irc properly one day
ok, i'm going to go and lie in the road for a little while (oh joy!), will be back soon to test some tarballs... 		[13:26]
changijonnyb: about CIA, yesterday when sf.net was out, i was thinking giving access to this repos as a fallback [13:26]
jonnybhmmm, read only presumably? [13:27]
changijonnyb: yes [13:27]
jonnybnot a bad idea - something like svnbackup.tiki.org [13:27]
changijonnyb: yes
jonnyb: will drop that in the idea box :) 		[13:27]
jonnybor as part of code.t.o maybe
+1 form me 		[13:28]
changisth like code.tiki.org/svnro/ [13:28]
jonnybyy
bbl 		[13:28]
changijonnyb: see ya [13:29]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03changi67 r43629 10branches/9.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php
tikiwiki [REL] Preparing release 9.2 		[13:32]
changiricks99: >> There were already some commits for the same final version number in the changelog. Merging them with the new ones. [13:34]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03changi67 r43630 10branches/9.x/README
tikiwiki [REL] Update README file for 9.2
tikiwiki 03changi67 r43631 10branches/9.x/ 10(49 files in 49 dirs)
tikiwiki [REL] Update language.php files for 9.2 		[13:34]
changi>> Changelog updated with 32 new commits (revision 43601 to 43310), excluding duplicates, merges and release-related commits.
ricks99: >> Retrieved members list from Sourceforge.
>> Copyrights updated: +3 contributor(s), +294 commit(s) 		[13:34]
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tikiwiki [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.2
tikiwiki 03marclaporte r43633 10branches/10.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php
tikiwiki Some notes on how to set version number
tikiwiki 03changi67 r43634 10branches/9.x/copyright.txt
tikiwiki [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.2
tikiwiki 03changi67 r43635 10branches/9.x/db/tiki-secdb_9.2_mysql.sql
tikiwiki [REL] SecDB for 9.2
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tikiwiki [REL] Tagging release 		[13:36]
changisf.net is so slow to send email today [13:38]
marclaportechangi: yes, popular for packaging and site switching :-)
changi: any idea on next.tiki.org htpasswd login loop? 		[13:44]
changimaybe because xmlrpc is blocked by the htpass [13:50]
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changichangi uploading 9.2 compressed file on sf.net
marclaporte: 9.2 is published :) 		[13:58]
Bsfezpng
Hi changi, didn't see your "ping" just sent you an email ;) 		[14:05]
changiBsfez: about what ? [14:07]
BsfezAlpha schedule (and overall), packaging and updating tw website (we are setting a list), check predoog server… the usual for a release ;) [14:08]
changididn't receive that email for now [14:09]
Bsfezwas sent at changi67@users.sourceforge.net [14:14]
changiBsfez: use changi@tiki.org
Bsfez: sf.net is a little bit slow those days 		[14:15]
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arildbThere is a pretty serious encoding problem in Tiki 10 using the CkEditor. I made a report at http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+10x. [14:15]
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Bsfezok resending [14:20]
ricks99ricks99 glad to see Bsfez taking charge of Tiki 10
Do we want to test 9.2 for a day or two before annoucement? 		[14:21]
Bsfeztks Rick [14:23]
changiricks99: i think, simply testing the tarball is enough for me [14:25]
ricks99ricks99 downloading now
changi: thanks for 9.2 info ^^^ 		[14:25]
changiricks99: no problem, my pleasure
Bsfez: i have a thursday release facility, so if we could just switch from monday to thursday
Bsfez: all next * are now on tiki10 		[14:27]
arildbBsfez: I like the classification on http://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+10x, but is 2 section needed for "data loss" (data loss and partial data loss). The distinction is not great. SO, maybe only one section to simplify? [14:42]
Bsfezchangi: ok so Alpha release is 29/10. For the switch we have to formalise a list. We need some to stay 6lts and 9lts, most will go 10 [14:43]
ricks99+1 [14:44]
Bsfezarildb: Mmm… I feel also the description is confusing. It has been done that way for a good reason i guess, let me check that and i will clarify the description. tks for the head up ! [14:45]
ricks99my 9.2LTS installation went smooth as silk. kudos to all [14:47]
Bsfezricks99: good feedback i should have some switch in the coming hours [14:47]
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Bsfezrepost; changi: ok so Alpha release is 29/10. For the switch we have to formalise a list. We need some to stay 6lts and 9lts, most will go 10 [14:51]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: users_list module in tiki 8.1? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45461
New Forum Posts: multilang - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45456
New Forum Posts: Advamced DB operations (Create Table, Update, etc) in Tiki 9.1? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45453 		[14:52]
BsfezDo we have somewhere a list of all the Tiki Community websites ?
Bsfez trying to be sure http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki10 "schedule" show them all 		[14:56]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: users_list module in tiki 8.1? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45461
New Forum Posts: multilang - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45456
New Forum Posts: Advamced DB operations (Create Table, Update, etc) in Tiki 9.1? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45453 		[15:02]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03changi67 r43637 04tags/9.2
tikiwiki [KIL] We need to add a security fix 		[15:18]
BsfezGreat !
changi: tks 		[15:22]
jonnybis anyone else seeing 10.x totally broken with jison parser enabled i get Fatal error: Class 'JisonParser_Wiki_Link' not found [15:29]
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changijonnyb: same issue on nextparserdev.tiki.org [15:34]
jonnybstroppy email for RobertPlummer on it's way [15:34]
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hii expert..
i have problem with permission.. other user only show one menu in tikiwiki 9
so how to change permission..
?
Error is You do not have permission to view this page. 		[15:35]
ricks99mehul: check your group permissiosn for the user in question.
see docs for details: http://doc.tiki.org/permissions 		[15:39]
jonnybtiki-objectpermissions.php [15:39]
mehuli want to give default permission. so how can i do it ? [15:40]
ricks99simply select which permission to grant to the group [15:41]
Bsfezarildb__: FYI, i have merged the 2 table look alike in Regressions in 10. :) [15:42]
ricks99you might find this primer helpful: http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/Configuring+Group+Permissions [15:43]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43638 10branches/10.x/lib/tikilib.php
tikiwiki [SEC] unserialize: More complete check for objects in serialized data when it's not the first item
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43639 10branches/9.x/lib/tikilib.php
tikiwiki [bp/r43638][SEC] unserialize: More complete check for objects in serialized data when it's not the first item
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43640 10branches/6.x/lib/tikilib.php
tikiwiki [bp/r43638][SEC] unserialize: More complete check for objects in serialized data when it's not the first item 		[15:46]
mehulricks99 i have change group permission.. still showing only one menu in tiki page.
and also show Error You do not have permission to view this page. 		[16:00]
ricks99are you using category or object level permissions?
they will override the default group permission 		[16:02]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43641 10(24 files in 15 dirs)
tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/10.x 43609 to 43638 		[16:06]
mehulcan u tell me jst path of permission
i have try to many option
i m using tiki 9.1 		[16:11]
jonnybmehul: permissions are managed on this page: tiki-objectpermissions.php [16:11]
mehuli have create IT Group
this group member login him id.. that time showing error Error You do not have permission to view this page.
so how can change this group permission.. 		[16:12]
ricks99Does the IT GROUP (or any group it inherits) include the permission to read wiki pages? [16:13]
mehuli have many group created.. but it group member not showing tikiwiki page..
i given it group to inherits with subadmins
but still not showing 		[16:13]
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ricks99does the page belong to a category? what are the category permissions? [16:15]
mehulits showing 146
permission 		[16:16]
ricks99?
if you assign object- or category-specific permissions, they will override the group permission. see docs for details 		[16:16]
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mehulRicks: i have taken backup before.. so now u tell me jst with file i will replace with current file..
so it working like before.. 		[16:19]
ricks99sorry, i don't understand. you want to restore a db backup? [16:22]
mehulno bro.. i jst reset my whole permission [16:24]
ricks99on the object permission page, there's an option to remove all custom permisssion and use the default group perm
pls see docs for details 		[16:25]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03changi67 r43642 10branches/9.x/changelog.txt
tikiwiki [REL] Update changelog.txt for 9.2
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tikiwiki [REL] Update copyright.txt for 9.2
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tikiwiki [REL] SecDB for 9.2
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tikiwiki [REL] Tagging release 		[17:08]
Bsfezsry if i miss something, TW 9.2 is official and good for download ? (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_9.x_Herbig_Haro/9.2/) [17:22]
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jonnyblooks like it could be Bsfez - changi seems to have fallen off irc
hi mlaporte 		[17:23]
ricks99Bsfez: believe there was a security fix that needed to go quickly [17:24]
jonnyblooks like the new files aren't uploaded yet
Bsfez: that "create page in default categ if user doesn't have global tiki_p_edit" thing looks quite tricky - and i can't even see how it's being done in 6.x
because the page object hasn't been created yet, it can't be categorised, so can't be checked... catch 22 		[17:24]
Bsfezyes (sry)
let me check something about the code 		[17:31]
jonnybby the way, the group with the defcat on needs to be the users default group for it to have any chance of working, by the look of the code [17:36]
Bsfezat line 201 there is a check about "!$tikilib->user_has_perm_on_object" [17:36]
jonnybyes,, and because the object doesn't exist at that stage it checks the global perms
this probably also affects all tiki objects - blog posts, articles etc (maybe) 		[17:37]
Bsfezexact… the regression is in all that's why i suggest that the fix should be somewhere in tikilib
anyway, we have case where tw "guess" some parameters prior creating the page (like lang).
we also declare (in admingroup) that created object by a member of this group should be categorized as : xxxx
i'm no coder and i'm sure u understand better than i, but we need a kind of rule that say: 		[17:39]
jonnybthink we'll need LPH for that one i'm afraid - don't want to go making holes in there (Perms) [17:41]
Bsfezon new object creation by a user of group xxx category of the object is yyy THIS set before the editing/save step.
i undertsand
i have seen quit heavy code about this on tw6 and tw9… it should be (my guess as noob) simplifyed as the rule i just wrote. 		[17:42]
jonnybyes, but perms are checked way before the object is created
hmm, not sure perms have really changed that much since 6.x 		[17:44]
BsfezRight, but same, we already know way before the object is created what category will be assigned.
and it keep some logic… there is no reason a user could see tools to create a page (button, structure, ?) if in anyway he can perform such. :)
actually and we saw it, i can create an object, but not edit/save… a little fony. 		[17:45]
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jonnybarildb: looks like the wysiwyg issue you found on demo.t.o must be something involving the {include} plugin, right? probably not recommended ;) [17:49]
arildbjonnyb: I think it may be a more general issue when plugins are involved. I haven't been able to pin point it yet. Still have the test case on demo now [17:50]
jonnybi've been messing with http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=encoding+test+2 but haven't managed to break it yet [17:50]
arildbI have seen several encoding issues, but no pattern yet...except plugins seem to be involved [17:51]
jonnybinclude seems to break wysiwyg - i'll add it to the don't-render plugins list [17:52]
arildbok...meaning that the include plugin won't be supported in wysiwyg?
jonnyb: One thing I have seen fail is a <a hred=...">...</a> inside a DIV pluigin, which floats right. In such cases I have seen the anchor tag get corrupted several times 		[17:52]
coaboapolom: how can I have an anonymous survey and protect it via recaptcha? [17:58]
jonnyblooks like someone has sort of disabled ck_editor rendering - nice!
hey coaboa - long time no see!
no idea re surveys, sorry 		[17:58]
coaboahi jonny: sorry wasn't on tiki for a while. poiesipedia decided to work on an own cms and to continue withou me, but that my fault.
ok 		[17:59]
jonnybshame, you ok? [18:00]
coaboayes getting better. Up and running again ;-) [18:00]
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tikiwiki [REL] Preparing 6.8
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jonnybgutli gut! [18:02]
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tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43652 10branches/10.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php
tikiwiki [FIX] parser: Don't reset all the current parse options to defaults if a few are changed (include plugin sets the 'page' option, which was then unsetting everything else, is_html, ck_editor etc)
tikiwiki Added include to plugins not to wysiwyg as it often caused problems before (thanks Arildb)
tikiwiki 03changi67 r43653 10branches/6.x/ 10doc/devtools/release.php 10copyright.txt
tikiwiki [REL] Update copyright.txt for 6.8 		[18:16]
RobertPlummerpolom all [18:21]
BsfezHi [18:21]
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tikiwiki [REL] Tagging release 		[18:22]
arildbjonnyb: I think I got the bug replicated on http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=encoding+test+2
Steps.. 		[18:28]
jonnybhopefully i fixed it in r43652 [18:29]
arildb1) Create the DIV plugin floating right with an HTML anchor tag inside it.
29 Save the page
3) Edit again
4) Add a box plugin
>> anchor tag is corrupted
jonnyb: ok. Let's hope it's a fix 		[18:29]
jonnybthat might be a different thing - adding the include plugin was messing up the parser options...
i'll try this thing (locally) 		[18:30]
arildbIf you fix only applied to the include plugin, this is different
step 5) should be Save the page again 		[18:31]
jonnybis this in html mode? not in "visual wiki" mode (wysiwyg_htmltowiki) [18:35]
arildbcheditor, html mode
s/cheditor/ckeditor 		[18:35]
jonnybif it's html, why are you using wiki plugins to make divs? (just wondering) [18:36]
arildbI don't think the parser allows styling of html divs [18:37]
jonnybit should leave html alone, it's whether ckeditor does what you want i guess - there probably are some other tools for divs etc that could be enabled [18:38]
arildbcould be, but this is valid syntax and it should work [18:39]
jonnybjust found on called box [18:39]
arildbMy feeling is that this is a "general" plugin error, and it's not related explicitly to the box plugin. [18:40]
jonnybwhen you say "DIV plugin floating right with an HTML anchor tag inside it" you type the html into the plugin edit form you mean? like <a name="foo"> or something? [18:40]
arildbe.g. use <a href="http://www.yahoo.com">yahoo.com</a> [18:41]
jonnybhmm, all the html gets encoded - this is a wiki plugin, so probably doesn't want html inside it [18:42]
arildbThis time I typed the HTML in directly. However, on existing sites all links are in HTML format (I believe). In html mode all links are converted to html syntax (or it used to be so) [18:42]
jonnybseems ok once saved though (somehow) [18:42]
arildbyou have to resave to trigger the error
Add a new plugin and resave
does that work? 		[18:43]
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jonnybafter adding 2nd box plugin the link html is now html encoded (showing on the page) [18:44]
arildbso, you got it duplicated [18:44]
jonnybif you use wiki syntax for the link [http://www.yahoo.com/m] it seems ok [18:45]
arildbI have upgraded a couple of sites to Tiki 10 (to take advantage of the new features). This bug is corrupting some of the data [18:45]
jonnybfrom 9? [18:46]
arildbyes, wiki syntax seems to work. I am not sure if it still is auto-converted to html links once saved
upgraded from 8 		[18:46]
jonnybthe convertions should only happen when switching from wiki to html/wysiwyg
ah, is it ok in 9? 		[18:46]
arildbdidn't work that way before. All links were converted
not sure about 9
I did the include plugin test on 9, and that worked OK there 		[18:47]
jonnybyes, recent parser regressions [18:48]
arildbseems like it [18:48]
jonnybbut also lots of html entity/parser disruptions during 9.0 release [18:48]
arildbI have been using Tiki 8 (only) until recently. I haven't tested 9 that much [18:51]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: russian for not admin users - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=13&comments_parentId=45462 [19:13]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43656 10branches/10.x/lib/core/ 03JisonParser/Wiki/Link.php 10JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Get external wiki links working, like ((dev:Downloads)). Also some minor cleanup of code 		[19:18]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: Again so sorry about that file not being included. [19:19]
jonnybhi RobertPlummer - np, sorry about my intemperate email too ;) [19:20]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: The file did commit, because LP looked at it, yet sourceforge went down just as I was committing it. When I svn upped last night the file was not in the commit, I did an svn up and the file disappeared, so I have no idea what happened.
jonnyb: svn commit --half
lol :) 		[19:20]
jonnybsf seems lots better today
but i still got a couple of odd errors 		[19:20]
RobertPlummerOr perhaps it was this file that brought sf down?
jk
Any errors related to my code? 		[19:21]
jonnybwhile you're there, could you cast an eye over http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=43652&view=rev just in case there might be unintended consequences (please)? [19:21]
RobertPlummerlooking [19:22]
arildbjonnyb: I confirm you fix to the include plugin works well. thanks [19:22]
jonnybsuper, just hope it doesn't break anything else! [19:22]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: The set options on the old parser and new are different beasts. The old parser is somewhat static. The new one is OO, so the options are inherited, and can be changed when needed. [19:23]
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arildbRobertPlummer: Does that mean that if a plugin alters the parser options, these new settings will be applied to the following plugins parsed? [19:24]
RobertPlummerarildb: Yup [19:25]
arildbok [19:25]
RobertPlummerarildb: In plugins we really should do:
new Parser();
and when done using it, unset(Parser); 		[19:25]
arildbTo me that seems like an undesirable effect....that parser setitings travel across plugin boarders (and given that they can be altered indie plugins)
s/indie/inside
RobertPlummer: Is this new "inherited options" taken advantage of in anyway currently? 		[19:27]
coaboaHow can I disable the forums "discuss" button for a specific page? [19:32]
arildbIf new Parser() and then unset(Parser) should be called for each plugin, is it possible to integrate this in the plugin-calling framework, so the plugin author doesn't have to recall it. [19:33]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43657 10branches/10.x/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/Link.php
tikiwiki [FIX] list of externals come from tiki-admin_external_wikis.php, not from code, lookup rather than force 		[19:36]
RobertPlummerarildb: In the new parser it is.
arildb: $this->parse() detects if there is an active parse, and if so instantiates another parser, parses, and then unsets it, while the parser is parsing.
arildb: It would be possible in the old parser, but it may not act like you think it might, it is a hairy mess to start changing around.
arildb: There is a reason why a new parser is being built. 		[19:36]
arildbRobertPlummer: by new parser, I assume you mean the jison parser. That is not enabled in the site I am testing on. [19:39]
RobertPlummerarildb: Right. [19:40]
arildbjonnyb: You commented that the fix enabling of large file imports perhaps should be backported to Tiki 10 (and possibly Tiki 9). I can do the backport, but best if somebody can verify the fix first
i.e. the batch update fix(es) 		[19:45]
fabriciuspolom [19:46]
jonnybarildb: will try to sometime, but running out of day at the moment
hi fabricius 		[19:46]
fabriciusjonnyb sry, had to work unexpectely (hate all day working at free days) [19:46]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43658 10branches/10.x/lib/core/ 10JisonParser/Wiki/Link.php 10JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Externals were being detected twice, removal of duplicate code 		[19:48]
fabriciuscoaboa: I would maybe think about category permissions ... or css-option [19:49]
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tikiwiki [FIX] Display deliberation items only when not empty, rather than if it is set (which is always) 		[19:56]
coaboanot unfortunetelly not (the forum doesn't appear in obj perms and the category perms doesnt make the discuss button go away.
so I added a page_id css rule
but thats no good for noob users ;-)
theme fivealive by the way and most recent 9.x 		[19:56]
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tikiwiki [FIX] Also check type 		[20:08]
fabriciuscoaboa: I am not aware of a noob solution for this wish
coaboa: but why a noob would have to do such configurations? 		[20:11]
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coaboaIn my case : having the minichat on a wiki page and do not want to have the discuss button on this (and other static) pages
hi changi
with all other buttons/wiki features it works. Soi think there is a forum/discussion related perm check prob with either the wiki feature or the template 		[20:24]
fabriciuscoaboa: but then it is not important, if the configuration is noobish or advanced ... you do it yourself and you are advanced
coaboa: maybe make it in css and use a category and theme configuration 		[20:27]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43661 10branches/10.x/templates/rating.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] include admin as rating result viewer 		[20:28]
fabriciuscoaboa: so you can apply this to arbitrary pages with a noob workflow (simple apply a category [20:28]
coaboawasn't meant to serious sorry for being indifferent. and I have solved it by modify the css .button class for the specific page
and as I mentioned befor category perms make all other buttons go away as expected
but *not* the discuss button 		[20:28]
fabriciusso you did it with css - per page base is good ... category later would be easy ... so solved, nice one [20:29]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43662 10branches/10.x/ 10lib/smarty_tiki/function.rating_result.php 10templates/comment-body.tpl 10styles/layout/layout.css
tikiwiki [FIX] Use the bottom of the thread result, layout for better appearance 		[20:30]
fabriciusnot category perms, theme conrol by category ... that's different
just an enhancement of your actual solution, in case youj need id for more than one page
, in case you need it for more than one page
sry typo 		[20:30]
coaboaI know that but I had to make the thing go away in "real time" ;-)
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sorry didn't have internet connection 		[20:38]
fabriciushi changi
np 		[20:39]
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tikiwiki [FIX] Put page rating in right place (internet standards are after article), make it take up the page width for style stability and rating results for admin 		[20:46]
changichangi just upload tiki 6.8, the security release [20:47]
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tikiwiki [FIX] elfinder: Hide galleries according to defaultGalleryId and deepGallerySearch settings on tracker files field (still shows contents of root gal - TODO) 		[21:00]
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arildbjonnyb: I tested the batch upload fix on a Debian installation. It worked fine there too. Should I backport to 10 (and 9?) ?
Bsfez: should I backport? 		[21:21]
I went ahead and backportet to 10 [21:33]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r43665 10branches/10.x/ 10templates/admin/include_fgal.tpl 10lib/metadata/metadatalib.php 10lib/prefs/feature.php
tikiwiki [bp/r43615,r43616,r43622]
tikiwiki [FIX] tiki-batch_upload.php can now handle large files, e.g CD images.
tikiwiki [MOD] FileMetadata will no longer load the file contents when a file path is specified.
tikiwiki Doing so will break normal PHP memory limits for large files, e.g. CD/DVD images.
tikiwiki Determine filesize directly from the filesystem when a path is specified.
tikiwiki The content attribute is set to private to avoid clients using FileMetadata as a file loader
tikiwiki [ENH] Make batch uploading and large file integration more visible.
tikiwiki [ENH] Make a note about file directory being the recommended storage, when batch upload is active. 		[21:36]
jonnybsry arildb - busy packing & have to go out, will try & test another time [21:36]
arildbjonnyb: ok. My Linux test passed. So, I think it should be ok [21:37]
jonnybok , thanks
bibi 		[21:39]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43666 10branches/10.x/lib/ 10comments/commentslib.php 10rating/ratinglib.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Sorted deliberations, most normalized valuable rating at top sorted descending 		[22:00]
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tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43667 10branches/10.x/lib/svg-edit_tiki/draw.js
tikiwiki [FIX] Initial fill to be opacity of .5 (or 50%) 		[22:18]
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tikiwiki [FIX] Removal of deprecated feature 		[22:32]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43669 10branches/10.x/lib/core/ 10(6 files in 3 dirs)
tikiwiki [ENH] But more a fix, the specialCharacter processor gets its own handler type, and ckeditor gets one to, so it can override. As of this point WYSIWYG displays correctly in the JisonParser, WOOHOO! 		[23:12]
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tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43670 10branches/10.x/lib/core/WikiPlugin/Negotiator/CKEditor.php
tikiwiki [FIX] no parse seems not to be needed
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tikiwiki [FIX] a couple scope issues 		[23:32]
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