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[00:18] marclaporte overview of?
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[00:49] refizul overview of available videos?
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[01:04] marclaporte It's all over the place
[01:04] marclaporte http://tv.tiki.org/ would be a place to put links to them all
[01:22] refizul I already missed a new third level domain this week :-) - I wonder if I ever know all of them
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[03:44] luatdo hi every body
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[05:39] Harman hello
[05:40] Harman can i upgrade to 9.2 from 9.0 without repeating a conplete installation?
[05:41] marclaporte There might be some 9.0 to 9.1 and 9.1 to 9.2 patches
[05:41] marclaporte Harman: do you have SSH access?
[05:41] Harman yes
[05:43] Harman wysiwyg takes a long time to load on college wifi (download speed 30kbps connection), i have 100 volunteers all from college and they complain abt slow speed loading editing page, i am on VPS 1 GB RAM APACHE 40GB HDD knownhost webhost
[05:44] marclaporte Harman: did you compress your CSS & JS?
[05:44] Harman everything else is fine, is there any method i can speed this up? i am running tiki 9.0 only on my server
[05:45] Harman @ marc - No i havent done it ever. What is it?
[05:46] marclaporte tiki-admin.php?page=performance has several things you can tweak
[05:47] Harman oh ok let me have a look, thanks marc :)
[05:49] Harman ok i can see both these settings here, i am gonna apply and see how it helps
[05:51] marclaporte also, gzip the output
[05:57] Harman should i check this too "minify css to single file" or leave it and click only minify css?
[05:58] marclaporte go for single file
[05:58] marclaporte activate everything :-)
[05:58] marclaporte a good way to find bugs :-)
[05:58] Harman ok sir. let me do it and see the speed changes
[06:02] Harman YAYY!! wysiwyg is faster now even in slow wifi
[06:04] marclaporte :-) :-)
[06:04] Harman site is running smoother and quicker now @marc
[06:05] Harman i was wondering how many simultaneous new page creations with wysiwyg can be done on my vps?
[06:05] Harman considering i am expecting to grow my volunteers to 200 by end of november
[06:06] marclaporte well, simultaneous is really rare because even if you have 100 people in a room, they won't all click at the exact same moment
[06:10] Harman yes thats quite true, i have to build 20,000 article wiki pages by end of next year
[06:19] marclaporte no problem for Tiki
[06:19] marclaporte I have a half million page wiki once
[06:20] marclaporte no, wait, it was 350 000 pages, or something like that
[06:22] Harman @marc..WOOOW!! u just took all my burden off, i always had this in back of my head about max limit of wiki pages tiki could handle, I can go on building worlds largest dental encyclopedia worry-free from now on :-)
[06:27] Harman alright thanks marc, its college time, gotta go and fix some teeth ;-)
[06:27] marclaporte hehe
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[09:58] himanshu plz help me how to make add as contact(contact list) in my profile page i want to make profile page see this link--http://shawnadler.com/tiki-index.php?page=Social+Networking+Private+Profile+Page in tiki
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[10:27] kstingel has sf server crashed again? ... I can't get SVN update to connect
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[12:23] xavi himanshu: you need to apply the profile "Social Networking". See http://profiles.tiki.org . I have no clue if this profile is updated to tiki 9.x.
[12:24] xavi kstingel: svn update works for me right now (at least)
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[12:39] GillesM hello
[12:39] GillesM I look for tip styles .. any idea ?
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[13:19] jonnyb polom
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[14:29] RobertPlummer polom all
[14:29] jonnyb hi RobertPlummer
[14:30] RobertPlummer jonnyb: hi, hows release coordinating going?
[14:31] jonnyb ok i think, seems pretty smooth so far (unless i missed stuff while away ;) )
[14:33] RobertPlummer :), no surprises from me.  A draw fix.
[14:34] jonnyb :D
[14:34] RobertPlummer jonnyb: I've shifted to trunk for parser development.
[14:34] jonnyb yes, saw that - thanks
[14:35] RobertPlummer jonnyb: No sweat, working on the html parser now.
[14:35] RobertPlummer jonnyb: thanks for all your hard work
[14:35] jonnyb once you've got it all happy there probably an idea to backport to 10.x in one big clean commit (after 10.0 maybe?)
[14:36] jonnyb and thanks for all yours too! :)
[14:36] RobertPlummer jonnyb: That sounds good, I'll let the release coordinators make that call.
[14:36] RobertPlummer :)
[14:36] RobertPlummer jonnyb: But seriously, stable wysiwyg is just around the corner.
[14:36] jonnyb woo hoo!
[14:37] RobertPlummer jonnyb: No more magic, just data transformation.
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[15:32] Jyhem Pom pom polom
[15:32] jonnyb moloq moq moq
[15:34] xavi polom-moloq-pom-moq
[15:34] jonnyb :)
[15:35] xavi I did my first quick install of tiki 10 :-)
[15:35] xavi unbelievable :-)
[15:35] * Jyhem believes Xavi :)
[15:35] xavi and I already saw that same tiny issues pending to fix in 9x are still there pending to fix in 10.x
[15:36] xavi :-)
[15:37] xavi one quick one: plugin tracker doesn't show the default values in drop downs pre-loaded, as it does in the tracker interface itself (and as it used to work in 6.x )
[15:37] xavi reproduced in 10.x, and 9.x (latest svn's)
[15:38] xavi and once said so, I have to move back into non-tiki urgent staff for today (at least for a while)
[15:38] rinnan Howdy folks. I'm looking into setting permissions for my file galleries but seem unable to restrict access to the individual files in them (for users with using to the URL to the file). Any tips as to when to find relevant doc for this issue? I've been searching around with limited success
[15:38] * Jyhem moves to non-generic coding in Tiki unified -search :-(
[15:40] jonnyb rinnan: i think it's recommended to use the perms on galleries, not individual files
[15:41] rinnan jonnyb: That was my initial thought, but restricting access to a gallery doesnt remove the access to files within that gallery, only to the gallery itself (when listing galleries)
[15:42] jonnyb hmm, sounds wrong - do the files have any special permissions on them?
[15:42] rinnan no, not until I started experimenting
[15:44] rinnan This is of course only an issue when users get access to the direct URL's to the files (or maneges to guess those URL's)
[15:44] rinnan but its still a showstopper
[15:45] rinnan I'll se if I can reproduce the issue on another tiki-install
[15:45] jonnyb when you say direct url - you mean tiki-download_file.php?fileId=42 (or dl42 etc)?
[15:45] rinnan yup
[15:46] jonnyb tiki-download_file.php should check gallery perms, i thought
[15:46] jonnyb maybe you need to withdraw tiki_p_download form everyone and only grant that on the public galleries?
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[15:48] rinnan worth a try
[15:48] Jyhem rinnan: what do you call "restricting access to a gallery"? "list_gallery" prevents viewing it, but access to files is  tiki_p_download
[15:50] rinnan Jyhem: Yeah. Well what I was trying to acieve is creating a gallery whose files arent readable for users except a certain group
[15:51] rinnan Tried to assign a category with the correct permissions to the gallery, and then, to the files themselves
[15:52] rinnan so I did remove tiki_p_download for the gallery
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[16:07] Jyhem rinnan: so removing tiki_p_download for the gallery is buggy? :-(
[16:09] rinnan Jyhem: Thats what I'm trying to find out. I was initially looking for some doc for how to create a file gallery limiting the visibility of files within it
[16:15] rinnan Jyhem: revoking global rights does work
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[16:16] rinnan jonnyb's suggestion of revoking global rights and assigning rights to the gallery itself works
[16:17] jonnyb hmm, sounds a bit buggy then - think it's supposed to work like you thought (what version tiki? 9?)
[16:18] rinnan found the same issue in both tiki 9.1 and tiki10
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[16:19] sergrlager_ hi. can help me anybody with plugin bug in tw9.2?
[16:20] * refizul can confirm the permission problem in 9.1 - anonymous download possible if granted to registered only
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[16:22] sergrlager hi i have problem with plugin Sourse in tw 9.2
[16:22] sergrlager can help anyone?
[16:24] jonnyb sergrlager: Question? Just ask. :)
[16:27] sergrlager in tw 9.2 plugin Source in Wysiwyg editor dont show code of last page version so i cant edit it normally.
[16:27] refizul is there a general philosophy which permission set applies to a situation?
[16:28] refizul Can a singular revoke override global permissions in Tiki?
[16:28] jonnyb sergrlager: how do you mean "plugin Source"? (there are issues with using plugins in wysiwyg - best to use wiki mode if you want to use plugins a lot)
[16:29] jonnyb refizul: yes, revoke should work on object or category perms
[16:31] sergrlager ш have an icon named Source. when i use it i have sorse code of page and i can hange him- its very useful to delete some no need <p>
[16:32] sergrlager in tw 8.3 i have no problems with it!
[16:34] jonnyb sergrlager: and in 9.2 it's empty for you? seems ok for me (i'll just recheck)
[16:36] jonnyb seems ok for me - some problems with line-breaks inside plugins like {CODE} but that's been the case for several versions i think
[16:37] refizul Something seems buggy, it doesn't work the other way round either:
[16:38] refizul no anonymous global permission to download -> permission granted to a single file -> still forbidden
[16:39] sergrlager in 9.2 i have code of not last version of page/ for example i open last version in this way- change source code- then save. When i tried to look source of saved page i dont see changes/ but if i use this function in versios table list for concrete version - its shown me a source cod truelly - but i сате edit it (only read))
[16:40] sergrlager its really bug !
[16:43] jonnyb sergrlager: i don't follow - if i edit a page in wysiwyg source mode, then save it, the change gets saved fine for me (not sure what you mean, sorry)
[16:44] jonnyb refizul: looking at the code in tiki-download_file.php it seems to only check the gallery perms, not individual files
[16:44] refizul assigning permission to a gallery and then changing global permissions changes gallery permissions
[16:47] refizul but then: gallery restriction overrides global permission, no anonymous download possible even if granted globally
[16:48] sergrlager but i edit pages in admin mode so i have all permissions
[16:51] sergrlager and when i use another buttton - for each version it give me a code for this version. so as i understand its not true sql query in plugin Sourse in wysiwyg
[16:51] refizul the checkbox permission setting at file gallery list doesn't seem to work properly at file level. It seems to work for the whole gallery checkbox
[16:51] jonnyb sergrlager: separate conversation about permissions for files
[16:51] jonnyb refizul: which checkbox?
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[16:53] refizul the checkbox of a special gallery in the whole list at tiki-list_file_gallery.php -- seems to work, both ways
[16:53] sergrlager i have an idea to use this plugin from tw 8.3 but i dont know how copy it
[16:56] refizul the checkbox selected permission setting for special files does not work - but the key symbol below the table is labeled "Assing permission to file galleries" anyway -- so maybe not intended fine grained permissions on file level
[16:57] sergrlager if you wont use аду galleries in 9.2 you must use ssh on your server
[16:57] jonnyb ah right refizul - try the "permissions" button at the top
[17:01] refizul the setting via button at the top works fine - I cannot reproduce rinnan's issue with that
[17:03] jonnyb i think the perms via the key icon at the bottom can only add perms, not revoke (probably should be removed, it's very old)
[17:07] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4336 - - Source plugin in WisyWig  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4336
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[17:42] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: bug in plugin (Source) in wysiwig editor in TW 9.2 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45553
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[18:01] refizul I created a tracker with a checkbox and several options for tagging
[18:02] refizul Can I filter the items by choosing special options?
[18:04] refizul It's type: Multiselect
[18:05] jonnyb filter how? with trackerfilter plugin?
[18:08] refizul I want users to select tags and then filter items from tracker which match to be displayed
[18:10] jonnyb refizul: have you looked at {list} and {customsearch} plugins?
[18:17] refizul I'll do that next - actually I get: tracker field type not processed yet M
[18:19] jonnyb meh - bad luck!
[18:19] jonnyb arrays are tricky
[18:47] refizul the doc is very advanced - not yet a help. I don't even know whether I look at the right place.
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[19:28] Jyhem Thanks changi67
[19:31] jonnyb +1 changi (hi Jyhem)
[19:37] Jyhem_laptop hi jonnyb
[19:47] arildb I would like to change the text "Show module text" to "Hide module text" in modlib.php. Section...
[19:47] arildb 'notitle' => array(
[19:47] arildb 'name' => tra('No Title'),
[19:47] arildb 'description' => 'y|n '.tra('Show module title'),
[19:47] arildb Answering 'y' will hide the module title
[19:47] arildb This change affects a lot of language.php files
[19:47] arildb This text is only used in this location.
[19:48] arildb Should all the language files be updated?
[19:48] arildb e.g. tiki10\lang\nds\language.php(1456):"Show module title" => "�n Modultitel opwiesen",
[19:48] arildb ...will be commnted out and the key text changed?
[19:49] jonnyb hi arildb - i'm never quite sure about that, i expect they all need to be changed, but not sure if they then need commenting out...
[19:51] arildb jonnyb: but I don't know how to do the translation, so commenting out after changing the key text seems to be the best choice. If it's left active the translation is probably wrong
[19:52] arildb any "best practice" routines around this?
[19:53] arildb marclaporte: any thoughts on this issue?
[19:55] arildb another thing is if this should be done in 10 or trunk. If a lot of language files are changed, maybe trunk is better suited than 10?
[19:57] marclaporte The whole "how to translate" lacks leadership
[19:58] marclaporte I added info : http://tiki.org/i18n+Team
[19:58] marclaporte Active translators need to get together and decide on best practices
[19:59] marclaporte I am hopeful Tiki10 upgrade of tiki.org will permit a i18n workspace which will make it a lot easier for translators to coordinate
[19:59] arildb does the procedure I sketched out look ok, in this case?
[20:00] arildb update in trunk, change the key text in the language.php files, comment out any active translations
[20:01] marclaporte I don't think you need to comment out active translations as they will disappear on their own when "get strings" in run (before the next release)
[20:01] arildb ah...good. Then only update the key strings
[20:04] arildb or will this whole string handling be done automatically at the next release, so only modlib.php needs updating?
[20:04] refizul arildb: after altering the masterfile all language.php files need an update to let translators know where to change and comment in whatever they want to adjust
[20:06] arildb yes, and I assume the release process takes care of the string handling. Then it may be ok do the update in Tiki 10, too.
[20:06] marclaporte http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/get_strings.php?view=markup
[20:08] arildb marclaporte: thanks
[20:09] marclaporte arildb:  if you fix a typo in English that doesn't change the meaning, you can use lang/en/language.php, but since you are changing the meaning, just pretend it was a brand new feature
[20:09] arildb ok. Is 10 ok?
[20:14] marclaporte A question for the release coordinator (Bernard)
[20:14] marclaporte How many translations will be broken?
[20:15] arildb I will add it to trunc. Can always be backported later
[20:15] marclaporte :-)
[20:15] marclaporte Tiki11 will be out soon :-)
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[20:22] marclaporte arildb:  I always find double negatives confusing for users.   So thanks
[20:23] arildb :-)
[20:23] marclaporte brb
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[22:01] refizul linked from http://doc.tiki.org/faqs
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