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[01:14] crocket tiki wiki has a bug regarding WYSIWYG editor, and the bug is explained on http://pastebin.com/s7CqaEzQ
[01:14] crocket Test it on http://demo.tiki.org
[01:14] crocket I use tiki wiki 9.
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[01:16] marclaporte crocket: how are you progressing?
[01:16] crocket marclaporte, tiki wiki has a bug regarding WYSIWYG editor, and the bug is explained on http://pastebin.com/s7CqaEzQ
[01:16] crocket Test it on http://demo.tiki.org
[01:16] crocket I use tiki wiki 9.
[01:16] crocket Do I need to turn on the experimental feature to remove the bug?
[01:17] crocket "Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG" is an experimental feature.
[01:17] crocket I'm not sure if I should turn it on.
[01:18] crocket Should I stick to one of Wiki or WYSIWYG mode?
[01:18] luciash do not turn it on unless you want save problems
[01:19] crocket ok
[01:19] crocket So
[01:19] crocket I should either use either Wiki or WYSIWYG mode for one page.
[01:19] crocket I should use either Wiki or WYSIWYG mode for one page.
[01:20] luciash let me quicky quick check your problem on pastebin
[01:20] crocket Why can't an anoymous user use WYSIWYG editor?
[01:20] crocket anonymous
[01:21] luciash permission ?
[01:22] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43834 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/functions.inc.php
[01:22] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] link customized request: Tiki root may differ from document root
[01:24] luciash crocket: it seems to work on http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[01:25] crocket luciash, Switch between wiki and WYSIWYG mode.
[01:25] crocket You'll see that the simplebox is gone.
[01:26] crocket Why can't I paste a sequence of dashes properly?
[01:26] crocket Plus
[01:26] crocket :S is converted to a smiley.
[01:27] crocket OK I turned off smiley.
[01:29] crocket luciash, Do you know why a sequence of dashes are pasted weirdly into WYSIWYG editor?
[01:31] refizul crocket: are they transformed into an html entity for one longer line?
[01:31] crocket ?????
[01:31] crocket one longer line?
[01:32] crocket refizul, luciash : paste http://pastebin.com/skmAadRT into your WYSIWYG editor.
[01:32] crocket You'll see what's weird.
[01:32] refizul something like "--" goes to − or so
[01:33] luciash alternatively u can use BOX plugin, see: http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[01:33] crocket What the hell
[01:33] refizul I saw this behaviour at WordPress a few days ago, annoying
[01:33] refizul I couldn't close HTML comment
[01:33] crocket If I turn off "Content is parsed like wiki page", I can't even use WISIWYG editor.
[01:34] crocket refizul, It has to be fully WYSIWYG.
[01:35] luciash crocket: for anonymous edit you need to allow can modify categories permission also if you use categories
[01:35] crocket luciash, What about anonymous WYSIWYG editor?
[01:35] luciash crocket: and can swicth to wysiwyg perm too
[01:35] luciash see http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[01:36] crocket Where can I set global permissions?
[01:37] luciash crocket: sequence of dashes means -- = ndash or --text-- strikethrough, so you need to put it in ~np~...~/np~ or CODE plugin block or HTML plugin
[01:37] luciash Admin > Permissions
[01:38] luciash via menu
[01:45] crocket luciash, So I can't paste a sequence of dashes in WYSIWYG editor?
[01:46] crocket Unforunately, I don't have Permissions in Admin panel.
[01:47] crocket luciash, Is a simplebox preserved after switching between wiki and WYSIWYG mode?
[01:47] crocket Well
[01:48] crocket The permissions are available in Admin>Security
[02:00] luciash it is not in admin panel but in admin menu
[02:00] luciash Admin > Permissions
[02:01] crocket luciash, ??
[02:01] luciash it is in the menu
[02:01] crocket luciash, It's in quick admin menu.
[02:01] luciash submenu item
[02:03] crocket luciash, So how do I paste a sequence of dashes into WYSIWYG editor?
[02:03] luciash simplebox is vulnerable to edit mode switching, better use the BOX plugin syntax - the result is a box
[02:04] crocket luciash, How do I put a box plugin in WYSIWYG editor?
[02:04] crocket oops
[02:05] luciash if u need sequence of dashes in plain text try to surround it by ~np~--~/np~
[02:05] crocket luciash, The purpose is to make Wiki editor unneccesary and make it easier for people to use tiki.
[02:05] crocket luciash, Do I need to surround a sequence of dashes in ~np~ and ~/np~ in WYSIWYG editor?
[02:05] luciash i understand, it is far from perfect (the wysiwyg mode)
[02:07] luciash crocket: i do not know, just tried there and it works: http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[02:07] luciash try there
[02:07] luciash without np it works
[02:08] luciash gotta go, bbl
[02:16] crocket luciash, no
[02:25] crocket How can I put a box module in a WYSIWYG editor?
[02:25] crocket I can't switch between wiki and WYSIWYG mode as an anonymous user.
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[02:27] marclaporte crocket:  mixing WYSIWYG and wiki is where trouble starts :-)
[02:27] luatdo hi all
[02:27] marclaporte hi luatdo!
[02:28] luatdo hi marc
[02:28] refizul hello luatdo
[02:28] crocket marclaporte, How do I insert a box module in WYSIWYG?
[02:28] crocket The "Insert module" dialog doesn't have "box".
[02:28] luatdo hi refizul
[02:29] marclaporte crocket: how do you do in non-WYSIWYG?
[02:29] luatdo can you give skype ID
[02:29] crocket marclaporte, I just type {BOX()} {BOX}
[02:30] crocket God
[02:30] crocket marclaporte, I can't paste http://pastebin.com/XxnYMady properly in tiki.
[02:31] crocket In either wiki or WYSIWYG mode, it's impossible.
[02:31] crocket It seems ~pre~ ~/pre~ have to surround.
[02:32] crocket marclaporte, I have to surround it with ~pre~~np~ and ~/np~~/pre~.
[02:33] crocket People in this company wouldn't want to learn those things.
[02:33] crocket man
[02:37] crocket marclaporte, how far is tiki from obtaining a stable WYSIWYG editor?
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[02:46] luatdo I have a bug in categories
[02:47] luatdo article not public will display in categories
[02:47] luatdo we have a idea
[02:47] luatdo change query sql
[02:48] luatdo add condition in query load categories
[02:49] luatdo where article.ispublishied ='y'
[02:49] luatdo but we can find this query
[02:50] luatdo who know where is it?let me know please!!thanks
[02:52] marclaporte crocket: If you completely avoid wiki syntax, then, it's as stable as CK Editor
[02:53] marclaporte luatdo: in 10.x?
[02:54] marclaporte luatdo: lphuberdeau is good person to ask this for when he comes back on IRC
[02:54] marclaporte crocket:   WYSIWYG but that maintains wiki syntax is best direction IMO
[02:54] marclaporte because HTML becomes to messy
[02:55] marclaporte crocket:  In a few days, you'll be able to test what RobertPlummer is working on, and this will change the rules
[02:55] luatdo you are his skype id
[02:56] marclaporte crocket:  when he is available,he comes here, or you can write to tiki devel mailing list
[02:56] marclaporte but wait
[02:56] marclaporte That feature was added by Pascal St-Jean, so technically, he must have introduced the bug (well, missing feature really)
[02:58] marclaporte I suggested another way of doing this, but his point of view, is that this would be simpler...
[02:59] marclaporte http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=28925
[03:01] marclaporte http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/17480
[03:01] luatdo not it
[03:03] luatdo thanks
[03:03] luatdo it is a way
[03:04] luatdo but we see,only admin can view submission in categories
[03:04] marclaporte crocket: http://doc.tiki.org/WYSIWYG+vs+Wiki
[03:04] luatdo user can't view it
[03:05] luatdo we think,we can hide article not published samp submission
[03:06] luatdo in list article,we can hide somme artilce not published
[03:07] luatdo we use condition of permission
[03:08] marclaporte crocket: Goeff and Jonny are WYSIWYG experts
[03:09] marclaporte crocket: did you try WYSYWIYG that maintains wiki syntax?
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[03:14] luatdo you there marc
[03:15] marclaporte I am here
[03:15] luatdo you are his skype id
[03:16] marclaporte Really, the mailing list is the way to go
[03:17] marclaporte Everyone is looking there and likely someone will know
[03:17] luatdo I send mail on mailing list?
[03:17] marclaporte yes
[03:17] marclaporte You can even refer to this discussion: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2012-11-08,Thu&sel=145#l141
[03:20] crocket marclaporte, The experimental feature?
[03:20] crocket Somebody in this channel said there would be save problems with that feature.
[03:27] marclaporte I suggest you try it
[03:27] marclaporte The whole WYSWIYG is experimental :-)
[03:28] marclaporte The trick is to restrict what you do with it
[03:28] marclaporte IMO, the default of CKeditor has too many tools, and each is something that can go wrong
[03:28] crocket marclaporte, Have you tested moinmoin's WYSIWYG editor?
[03:30] marclaporte not in a long long time
[03:30] marclaporte tiki-admin_toolbars.php is where you can remove tools
[03:31] marclaporte crocket: is it good?
[03:33] marclaporte heh, maybe some good news: http://ckeditor.com/ckeditor-4-beta
[03:33] marclaporte http://nightly-v4.ckeditor.com/3753/samples/inlineall.html
[03:35] marclaporte They are working hard!  https://github.com/ckeditor/ckeditor-dev/commits/master
[03:38] marclaporte crocket:  so I see moinmoin has wiki and visual mode (that maintains wiki syntax) so they don't pollute the page with HTML (This is best approach IMO)
[03:40] marclaporte crocket: I set Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG on demo.tiki.org/9x/
[03:41] marclaporte luatdo:   when you have a new topic for the mailing list, please start a new thread
[03:41] marclaporte with a descriptive title
[03:42] luatdo how to start new thread
[03:45] crocket marclaporte, What if I want to paste a sequence of dashes into WYSIWYG editor?
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[03:51] crocket marclaporte, I can't switch between wiki and WYSIWYG mode as an anonymous user on my tiki wiki.
[03:54] marclaporte brb
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[04:08] marclaporte back
[04:08] marclaporte crocket: there is a permission for that
[04:54] marclaporte crocket: this works really well: http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php?page=WYSIWYG+Torture+Test
[05:11] crocket marclaporte, What permission is it?
[05:12] crocket marclaporte, I don't know how you tested that.
[05:14] EO_ ermagerhd!
[05:14] EO_ how do you reverse a change to the <header>s?
[05:14] EO_ my websiiiite is now blank :/
[05:17] EO_ what table holds the header data?
[05:17] EO_ I can edit the DB directly.
[05:19] EO_ tiki_preferences I see
[05:19] marclaporte crocket: Can switch between wiki and WYSIWYG modes while editing (tiki_p_edit_switch_mode)
[05:24] kstingel polom
[05:25] EO_ ugh, wtf.  updated the DB and the web server is still sending the old header.
[05:27] EO_ <script type="text/javascript" src="/MathJax/MathJax.js?config=TeX-AMS-MML_SVG-full" />
[05:27] EO_ <script type="text/javascript" src="/d3/d3.v2.js" />
[05:27] EO_ apparently terminating lines like that in the header is not good?
[05:34] marclaporte EO_: http://www.smarty.net/docs/en/language.function.literal.tpl
[05:35] EO_ marclaporte: the header field is always treated literally, no?  it's not the wiki section...
[05:36] EO_ oh, this is lower level escapaing than smarty
[05:36] kstingel what file would I need to edit (replace with own) to get Tiki to use Unicode Entities instead of HTML entities when outputting content?
[05:36] EO_ err than wiki
[05:38] EO_ marclaporte: good tip, but in this case, these are script references.  So that's a whole nother HTTP call, and won't even be intercepted by smarty/tiki.  No need to escape.
[05:38] marclaporte can you demonstrate problem on demo.tiki.org ?
[05:38] kstingel ... Entities like "&reg;" will not validate as "polyglot" or XHTML (required for ePub writer script)
[05:39] kstingel marclaporte: me, or EO_?
[05:39] marclaporte EO_: both :;-)
[05:39] marclaporte http://doc.tiki.org/MathJax worked...
[05:40] EO_ marclaporte: MathJax works fine.  It's the 2nd one I added which killed stuff.  For some reason.
[05:40] EO_ marclaporte: but right now my web host is holding a MySQL query cache that is out of date.
[05:40] EO_ it's still serving the old header data :/
[05:41] kstingel I can't ... because I don't have anything to demonstrate yet ... I'm stepping through my (immediate) validation issues manually
[05:42] marclaporte EO_:  can you explain what you will do with https://github.com/mbostock/d3 ?
[05:42] EO_ marclaporte: I'm trying to find a good function graphing package.  I'm not sure if D3 is it, but I was gonna try it out.
[05:43] EO_ I need to graph 2 functions on 1 graph, "y=x" and "y=1/((1/x)+(1/5000))"
[05:44] crocket marclaporte, I don't see that permission under wiki permissions.
[05:44] crocket ok
[05:44] crocket It's a tiki permission.
[05:45] crocket marclaporte, A simple box is lost during switch between WYSIWYG and wiki mode.
[05:47] EO_ marclaporte: tiki needs a command-line or fail-safe-URL "reverse the last action" button =)
[05:48] marclaporte EO_:  keep me in the loop about d3  I think we should have native Tiki solution for this
[05:49] EO_ marclaporte: do you know of any native/better supported/more official/more popular function graphing modules?  I'm publishing some engineering work and have had to write code to serve circuits in SVG properly, and pulled in that MathJax JS for the mathematical expressions....now this graphing this is the next challenge.
[05:49] marclaporte EO_:  https://dev.tiki.org/Visualization
[05:50] EO_ k wtf.  admins flushed tables, but tiki is still serving the old content.
[05:50] EO_ marclaporte: is there some internal DB cache in PHP you guys are using?
[05:50] EO_ does apache need to be restarted?
[05:51] marclaporte EO_:  run php installer/shell.php
[05:51] EO_ what did THAt do
[05:51] EO_ this better not have reset the DB
[05:52] EO_ well, it fixed it
[05:52] EO_ wtf did I just do =)
[05:52] marclaporte it upgrades the DB, if needed, and it clears all cache
[05:52] EO_ require_once 'lib/cache/cachelib.php';
[05:52] EO_ $cachelib->empty_cache();
[05:52] EO_ you SNEAKY monkeys!
[05:52] marclaporte hahahahhahahahha
[05:53] EO_ you keep cache on the file system?!
[05:56] marclaporte yes
[05:56] * EO_ fears adding d3.v2.js again to the headers.
[05:56] marclaporte Smarty template cache, and some in temp
[05:59] EO_ HA!
[05:59] EO_ I just broke demo.tiki.org :)
[06:00] EO_ http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php
[06:00] EO_ cheggit
[06:00] EO_ it's that damn /> terminator on the script line!
[06:00] EO_ you MUST use <script></script>
[06:05] marclaporte "Tiki needs a command-line or fail-safe-URL "reverse the last action" button =)"    http://dev.tiki.org/Recovery is what I have in mind for that, but for now, you can re-run tiki-install.php which lets you (re)set some prefs, and it also clears the caches at the last step
[06:07] EO_ marclaporte: good to see its on the drawing map.  Just be sure to ignore any HTML header preferences the user might have set.
[06:07] EO_ marclaporte: in other news, can I give you SVG plugin code?
[06:08] * marclaporte will fix demo.tiki.org/9x/
[06:12] marclaporte http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-install.php?install_step=6&lang=en is not letting me fix
[06:13] * EO_ did not change DB settings
[06:13] marclaporte EO_: yes, please share SVG code
[06:13] EO_ doesn't the demo reset automatically every hour?
[06:14] EO_ marclaporte: it's not very good code, but it's still more useful (to me) than what was there before.
[06:14] EO_ :q
[06:14] EO_ woops
[06:16] EO_ marclaporte: http://pastebin.com/SjS3jX4p <-- it'll expire in 1 hour
[06:17] EO_ it does server-side inlining and fixes common SVG problems (such as not setting a viewBox) on the fly
[06:17] EO_ it also allows for scaling of the images
[06:18] EO_ it would be better if it supported attId= and friends, and didn't use HTTP for getting local files
[06:18] EO_ marclaporte: plz do not credit me / my nick with anything.  totally anonymous submission to you.  =)
[06:18] marclaporte hehe
[06:19] marclaporte EO_: Did you play with doc.tiki.org/Draw ?
[06:23] EO_ yeah, I've looked at Draw.
[06:23] EO_ It's MSPaint =)
[06:23] EO_ I need scientific graphing
[06:23] EO_ labels, error bars, scales, feed it actual functions, zooming, etc
[06:30] marclaporte did you look at doc.tiki.org/PluginR
[06:30] EO_ !
[06:30] EO_ did not
[06:31] EO_ you guys support R.  wow.
[06:32] marclaporte http://doc.tiki.org/PluginR
[06:32] EO_ R is all about statistics last I checked.  Does it do functions?
[06:32] EO_ the common product of statistics is charts, not graphs :/
[06:32] EO_ oh
[06:32] EO_ it has a plot()
[06:32] EO_ done.  good. =)
[06:33] marclaporte where is your data stored?
[06:33] EO_ there's no data to be graphed
[06:33] EO_ it's a function
[06:34] EO_ https://www.google.com/search?q=graph+x%2C1%2F((1%2Fx)%2B(1%2F5000))&rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS461US461&oq=graph+x%2C1%2F((1%2Fx)%2B(1%2F5000))&sugexp=chrome,mod=0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS461US461&sclient=psy-ab&q=graph+x%5E3&oq=graph+x%5E3&gs_l=serp.3..0l4.29200.29717.0.29836.3.3.0.0.0.0.95.266.3.3.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.ezeVxhuGo3s&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=87441a1dbec92dd2&b
[06:34] EO_ ^^^ something like that
[06:34] marclaporte http://doc.tiki.org/Spreadsheet+jq
[06:34] EO_ google has a nice graphing viewer :)
[06:34] crocket marclaporte, A simple box is lost during switch between WYSIWYG and wiki mode even with "Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG" checked.
[06:36] marclaporte crocket: I will try
[06:37] crocket And how do I change the main page? "Use custom homepage" setting is ignored.
[06:37] marclaporte look in admin -> wiki -> home page
[06:39] crocket marclaporte, What is admin->general->navigation->"Use custom hompage"?
[06:39] crocket A vestige?
[06:39] marclaporte EO_: http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-admin.php?page=look is back For some reason, it choked on <script type="text/javascript" src="/MathJax/MathJax.js?config=TeX-AMS-MML_SVG-full" /> in Custom HTML <head> Content:
[06:40] marclaporte crocket: yes, a vestige
[06:40] crocket marclaporte, !!!
[06:40] * EO_ studies R
[06:40] crocket marclaporte, Is "Use Tiki feature as homepage" ignored, too?
[06:41] marclaporte crocket:  tiki-custom_home.php is from the days from before you could do advanced stuff in wiki pages
[06:41] crocket marclaporte, Is it removed in 10.x?
[06:41] marclaporte There is also an HTML pages feature that should be deprecated
[06:42] marclaporte no, still there. It's tough to remove these things. Need upgrade path and no took the time
[06:43] marclaporte EO_:  when you have custom CSS and JS, you can put in respective dedicated spots in admin panel
[06:43] crocket marclaporte, And it's not easy to discover the fact with documentation.
[06:43] crocket You should focus on documentation if upgrade is not easy.
[06:43] marclaporte crocket: agreed
[06:44] marclaporte step 1 : mark feature as deprecated for a few versions to give people the time to stop using  step 2: after an LTS, remove it
[06:45] EO_ > curve(1*x, -2, 2)
[06:45] EO_ > curve(x, -2, 2)
[06:45] EO_ Error in eval(expr, envir, enclos) : could not find function "x"
[06:45] EO_ R is weird
[06:45] EO_ the 1st curve() works, the 2nd does not
[06:47] crocket marclaporte, It's a good idead to display a deprecated mark beside each deprecated feature in admin panel.
[06:48] crocket marclaporte, Do you know where is the option for table of contents for each wiki page?
[06:54] marclaporte {maketoc}
[06:55] marclaporte http://doc.tiki.org/PluginMaketoc
[07:04] marclaporte crocket: I am not aware that it can automatic for each wiki page (but maybe by putting in a module?)
[07:05] EO_ marclaporte: PluginR looks to be a winner.  just finished compiling it on the web server.  let's see if this works to produce SVG :)
[07:06] EO_ curve(y<-x, -2, 2) <-- and that's how you plot just f(x)=x
[07:06] EO_ err if you get rid of the minus sign :)
[07:06] EO_ wait crap no, that's an arrow.
[07:06] EO_ keep as is
[07:06] crocket marclaporte, How can I put that module in every page?
[07:06] * EO_ is new @ this
[07:09] marclaporte crocket: you can't put in every page, but you can put in a module, which appears all the time
[07:09] marclaporte There is maybe a pref to make tocs always appear..
[07:09] crocket marclaporte, Maybe there should be a header for every page.
[07:09] crocket And even footer?
[07:10] kstingel where do I find the snippet that controls external links? ... need to make a minor edit to achieve validation ... 'title' and 'alt' text need to different -- I achieved this by simply removing the brackets on one of them
[07:12] kstingel ... working with branches/9.x at this point (that is my current test Tiki), but can also change in trunk if desired
[07:14] crocket marclaporte, Did you test if tiki preserves a simplebox after switching between two modes?
[07:14] EO_ what's the click path (through GUI) to get to tiki-mods.php ?
[07:19] crocket maketoc is buggy.
[07:20] crocket {maketoc: title="Contents" levels=1,2,3,4,5,6 showhide=y nums=y } displays only one header when there are multiple headers on the page.
[07:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03marclaporte r43835 10branches/ 1010.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 1010.x/lib/prefs/global.php
[07:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Copying over all 'home page' relevant prefs to the navigation section of the admin panel. It is quite confusing because there are two features for 'custom home page', one that lets you pick any URL and one which sends you to tiki-custom_home.php (which could very be just a URL)  Thank you to 'crocket' for very relevant questions on IRC. I don't like/get why we have all
[07:20] Tiki-KGB tikiwikithese prefs. It could all be simplifed to one URL box and like in menus, if it's in ((wikidestination)) format, Tiki knows it's a wiki page for cleanURLs and page rename handling, like for menus
[07:20] EO_ crocket: don't you wanna quote the levels value?
[07:20] crocket EO_, doesn't matter.
[07:22] crocket marclaporte, Do you have any idea about maketoc?
[07:23] crocket Somehow
[07:23] crocket h3 headers were assigned to the class "showhide_heading"
[07:24] marclaporte crocket: that last commit is dedicated to you. You just made Tiki10 better: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=43835
[07:24] crocket headers in those classes were excluded in maketoc.
[07:24] marclaporte crocket: can you show maketoc issue on demo.tiki.org?
[07:24] crocket marclaporte, ok
[07:27] crocket marclaporte, How can I assign a class to a header?
[07:30] crocket marclaporte, I copied a page from mediawiki.
[07:33] crocket marclaporte, http://demo.tiki.org/9x/tiki-index.php?page=HomePag
[07:35] marclaporte crocket: /me confirms issue with simple box, but suggests http://doc.tiki.org/PluginBox
[07:35] crocket marclaporte, class="showhide_heading" were assigned to invisible headers.
[07:35] crocket were -> was
[07:36] marclaporte I need sleep
[07:36] marclaporte more tomorrow
[07:38] marclaporte EO_: There is a link from tiki-admin.php to mods but is not obvious as mods have almost nothing interesting left
[07:38] marclaporte we all moved to core
[07:38] marclaporte PluginR is an exception
[07:44] crocket marclaporte, If any of <header> and its subtags have any id or class, maketoc doesn't display it.
[07:56] crocket marclaporte, I think it is not at the point where stupid people are able to use it.
[07:56] crocket or non-tech people
[07:59] crocket well
[07:59] crocket it is a problem with pasted headers.
[08:33] crocket Can't reliably determine, if your upload_tmp_dir is accessible via a web browser. To make sure you should check your webserver config.
[08:33] crocket How do I remove this warning?
[08:34] EO_ man, "R" is a terrible language name
[08:34] EO_ makes it impossible to find settings/source code
[08:37] EO_ $path = array('/usr/bin/', '/usr/local/bin/', '/bin/');
[08:37] EO_ wow, nice hardcoded paths, PluginR guys
[08:39] crocket anyone?
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[08:45] EO_ oh shoot, PHP is prolly doing a chroot
[08:47] crocket EO_, ???
[08:47] EO_ Does tiki do a chroot?
[08:47] crocket EO_, Is that a remark regarding my question?
[08:47] EO_ no =)
[08:47] crocket I don't know.
[08:47] * EO_ is having his own problems with PluginR
[08:53] EO_ the caching of tiki is confusing
[08:54] * EO_ has edited the behavior of wikiplugin_rr.php to better diagnose why it can't find "R", but the new code is not running
[08:56] EO_ oh.  it seems there are 2 copies of PluginR present!
[08:57] arildb EO_: You may want to contact xavi, when he comes online. I think he has been dealing quite a bit with the R plugin
[08:57] EO_ nah, this'll be solved in 30 sec
[08:58] EO_ I found the 2nd copy of the code
[08:58] EO_ tadaa, R ran.
[08:59] EO_ Having R is a big win for tiki, BTW.
[08:59] EO_ I hope you guys realize that.
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[09:03] EO_ R+SVG = total fail
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[09:06] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] New Hide namespace indicator pref should also cover the toc plugin
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[09:52] crocket I'm not so hot.
[09:58] EO_ This R plugin is pretty handy, but seems like it needs some work.
[09:59] EO_ Gotta support SVG generation.  Gotta support Unicode.  Would be nice if the graphs were interactive.  Gotta be able to label both vertical axes.
[09:59] EO_ gnuplot almost seems like a better candidate here.
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[10:40] Jyhem_laptop polom
[10:44] Jyhem_laptop EO_: R + svg was not working for xavi, so it seems he fixed something related in trunk, 9 and 10 in commits 43766 43765 & 43764
[10:45] xavi polom
[10:45] * xavi reading the backlog
[10:45] Jyhem_laptop xavi: you might soon feel less lonely as an R expert :)
[10:45] xavi thks Jyhem_laptop for the ping :-)
[10:46] EO_ aRRRRR!
[10:46] xavi EO_: :-)
[10:46] xavi Unicode? works for me...
[10:46] EO_ rly?  I tried to put an ohm symbol and it no workie.
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[10:46] EO_ the SVG fixes...I guess you just fixed the export?
[10:47] xavi graphs interactive? "yes , you can!": demo http://r-es.org/r_test6
[10:47] xavi if you can do it in R, you can do it thorugh Plugin R
[10:47] xavi that's the idea
[10:47] xavi ohm symbol, ah, I understand what you mean...
[10:48] EO_ this interactive thing looks like SVG output right to the web page.
[10:48] xavi mmm, would it work in your local R editor?
[10:48] xavi svg? :-) see this: http://r-es.org/r_test6#Section_4
[10:48] xavi more than just svg
[10:48] xavi googleVIs rocks!
[10:48] EO_ works locally
[10:48] xavi which editor and OS are you using?
[10:49] xavi (to test)
[10:49] EO_ what is google vis?  is that what comes up when you google "graph 1/x" ?
[10:49] EO_ RGui 32-bit on Server 2008R2
[10:49] xavi googleVIs R-package
[10:49] EO_ xavi: where do you live, roughly?
[10:49] xavi http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/googleVis/index.html
[10:50] xavi EO_: Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain, EU, ...
[10:50] xavi EO_: and you?
[10:50] EO_ ah.  Seattle, Washington, USA
[10:50] * EO_ has to go to bed :/
[10:50] EO_ Thu Nov  8 01:50:25 PST 2012
[10:50] EO_ meeting @ 9AM
[10:50] xavi ok, nice to see people using PluginR there :-)
[10:50] xavi ah, ok, g'night soon then :-)
[10:51] EO_ xavi: I will definitely keep in touch, and explore the links you gave me.  Really trying to establish a good suite of vector gaphics publishing tools here, and PluginR looks very promising.
[10:51] xavi thanks!
[10:51] xavi EO_: do you code in php also?
[10:51] EO_ https://www.hamwan.org/t/tiki-index.php?page=Electrical+Network+Tolerance+Analysis&structure=HamWAN
[10:51] EO_ ^^^ you're part of this pretty web page
[10:51] EO_ PluginR is doing all the graphs
[10:51] EO_ MathJax is doing all the math
[10:52] EO_ and CircuitLab + my custom PHP is doing all the circuit diagrams
[10:52] EO_ hehe
[10:52] xavi :-D and Jyhem_laptop, and many others in this irc channel, then (many people helped to make PluginR :-)
[10:52] EO_ xavi: yea, I know PHP.
[10:52] EO_ I had to mod the module already :P
[10:52] EO_ $path = array('/home/hamwanor/usr/bin/', '/usr/bin/', '/usr/local/bin/', '/bin/');
[10:53] EO_ that should be user-definable
[10:53] xavi :-)
[10:53] EO_ anyways
[10:53] * EO_ vanishes to sleep-land
[10:53] xavi :-D, yes, please, keep in touch. keep in mind that we created a pluginr specific forum in t.o forums section...
[10:53] xavi let me fetch the url for you....
[10:54] xavi http://tiki.org/forum24
[10:55] xavi and fyi, EO_, I'm planning to hold a workshop on Tiki & PluginR in the next UseR!2013
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[11:21] ravi how to show shoutbox in page?
[11:22] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: 'Save as svg' export fixed - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=24&comments_parentId=45559
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[12:58] Guest62854 anyone have knowledge of how to enable chat functionality for register user?
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[13:12] crocket Is it possible to run a program that generates a table output?
[13:13] crocket I don't want to write tables with hands.
[13:13] crocket I want to automatically generate them.
[14:25] crocket tiki.org is down
[14:32] RobertPlummer polom all
[14:32] RobertPlummer anyone here know if nesting a <div/> directly inside a <ul/> is valid html?
[14:33] RobertPlummer all: it runs fine in chrome and firefox. Testing in IE8+....
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[14:36] RobertPlummer all: drat, the only valid child of <ul/> is<li/> apparently.... a google search.
[14:48] crocket Does tiki allow scripts?
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[14:58] luatdo hi marc
[14:58] luatdo hi aridb
[15:01] fabricius hi luatdo
[15:03] fabricius you did write to the dev list this morning?
[15:07] luatdo hi fabricius
[15:07] luatdo yes,I do it
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[15:19] xavi polom back
[15:20] xavi Guest62854: yes, use chat module, or the extra mod for phpfreechat, etc.
[15:20] xavi crocket: you can use plugin trackerlist (to displai tracker - database like - data easily in a table output) ....
[15:21] xavi crocket: or pluginfancytable (for hand made tables but fancy display, sorted data by columns in the browser at user click, etc.
[15:21] xavi crocket: or using the pipe command for tables, to do simple table by hand
[15:22] xavi crocket: additionally, there are popup  helpers for tables (Tabler Builder), or using wysiwyg plugin, etc.
[15:22] xavi last, using spreadsheet feature, and plugin sheet
[15:22] xavi crocket: welcome to Tiki :-)
[15:23] xavi crocket: scripts. Php scripts: you can add them as plugins. see http://dev.tiki.org/Hello+World
[15:23] xavi or R scripts: see https://doc.tiki.org/PluginR
[15:23] xavi ok, back to non-tiki stuff...
[15:23] xavi see you all
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[15:51] fabricius luatdo: I am the guy who answered your 2 mails
[15:53] fabricius I feel that there are chances, that your issue is a configuration issue
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[16:20] alzoo hello
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[16:35] alzoo I have a little question with regard to how files are uploaded to file galleries and in which order, it seems to be random and I would liek to confim if this could be changed somewhere so they are upload in order.
[16:36] alzoo thi shas to do when unzipping a zip file
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[17:32] refizul alzoo: you mean batch upload?
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[17:54] alzoo hello?
[17:54] alzoo anyone around?
[17:54] alzoo hi refizul, I do mean batch upload
[17:55] alzoo you add and zip file and click the option unzip zip files
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[18:01] alzoo if I add screenshots that a save with filenames that are in order 01,02,03,04, etc, zip them and add them to a gallery, they are unzipped and given a fileID at random, thus instead of simply incrementing the file ID by typing in the number while editing the page, I have to manually click on the insert file button to find the next in sequence screenshot, very time consuming...
[18:03] alzoo in other words the allocation if the fileID (which is in order) is not applied in order relative to the files (which are saved in order) in the zip file. how can this be configured to do so.
[18:03] alzoo I can add 7 at a time in order in the image galleries, however this feature is being done away with..
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[18:20] luciash RobertPlummer: yes, only valid child of ul is li but you can put div in the li or imitate div by transforming li to block element with no bullet using CSS
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[19:53] kstingel|coding how do I prevent parsing of tiki syntax in {CODE()} somecode --code-option{CODE}? ... my code options are being struck out and written in red
[19:54] kstingel|coding all my code examples now look horribly wrong http://tiki.kstingel.com/Getting+Tiki
[19:56] Bsfez luciash: u on ?
[20:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03marclaporte r43839 10branches/10.x/lib/prefs/feature.php
[20:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Improve name of feature_endbody_code pref to make it more explicit. Thank you to Hugo Laporte for this advice
[20:07] RobertPlummer kstingel|coding: Use ~np~CODE HERE~/np~
[20:08] RobertPlummer {CODE()} ~np~somecode --code-option~/np~{CODE} should work
[20:08] kstingel|coding RobertPlummer: I tried that ... and all the ~np~   ~/np~ came up in the code blocks
[20:09] RobertPlummer kstingel|coding: What version of tiki?
[20:09] kstingel|coding 9.2 ... from branches/9.x, not from tags/9.2
[20:12] RobertPlummer kstingel|coding: I don't have a solution for you.  If you were in 10 or trunk, I'd say use the new parser.
[20:12] RobertPlummer kstingel|coding: You can try the new parser in 9, but I wouldn't for a production site.
[20:15] kstingel|coding RobertPlummer: I already have ... it struck out my entire page ... I switched it off again and all seemed OK, but now that I've finished the page, something has gone weird
[20:17] kstingel|coding I'll see if the new parser will debug the presentation on local server, if it does, I'll upgrade tiki.kstingel.com to 10
[20:18] jonnyb bbl
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[20:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Catch itemId not set on clone_item
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[20:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MOD] some more semi-transparent background graphics - for use in galleriffic plugin etc
[20:46] kstingel|coding RobertPlummer: I swiched the "--" to "−−" (from char map), that seems to have fixed the strike outs ... bash comments still look wrong, but I can live with that ... at least it hasn't tried to number them
[20:46] RobertPlummer :)
[20:51] kstingel|coding RobertPlummer: does your parser use HTML entities, or decimal/unicode entities? ... I need to fall-back to &#45; (hyphen) for XHTML validation, just wondering which parser would be best suited for it :)
[20:52] RobertPlummer kstingel|coding: Whatever the database has.  The new parser has a special character handler for situations like that.
[20:53] RobertPlummer But would be easy to handle that use case.
[20:53] kstingel|coding or wondering if there's an exising HTML to XHTML entity mapping I can call for non XHTML-legal entities
[20:53] RobertPlummer I think you can try ~--~ too
[20:55] kstingel|coding everything with ~ was showing in code block .. I'm thinking ahead, for parsing TikiSyntax back into (valid) XHTML for packaging to ePub ... I visualise running into entity encoding dramas at present
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[20:57] kstingel|coding previously (ePub 2.0) the DAISY namespace handled all that, but DAISY is no longer valid for ePub 3.0
[20:59] kstingel|coding will do some more research, and see what I can come up with by Christmas ... will branches/10.x rollout be finished by then?
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[21:26] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ROLLBACK] rollback fix in r43842 because it does not get to root of problem
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[21:32] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ROLLBACK] rollback fix in r43842 because it does not get to root of problem
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[21:50] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: help with pictures comments - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45561
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[22:07] dekuking hi guys, just updated from 8.x to 9.2 and im having some problems
[22:07] dekuking my logo is only showing when im logged in as admin
[22:07] dekuking and i cant seem to customize my theme
[22:07] dekuking any idea what causing this?
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[22:10] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: need help with bug in picture plugin - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=24&comments_parentId=45562
[22:40] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: need help with bug in sourse and wissywig plugins - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=24&comments_parentId=45563
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[23:40] luciash dekuking: go to Modules and assign the Anonymous group to the module containing the logo
[23:41] dekuking i got that one to work somehow, but custom themes is really not working
[23:42] dekuking i change the colour of something and see it change in the instant preview and then press save and it resets back to the old color
[23:42] dekuking this is how you do it right? http://i.imgur.com/9Hezr.png
[23:44] luciash right