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No Tiki on BSD unless BSD isn't set up with high performance, i.e. native arildb_: joined #tikiwiki refizul: red mark for the calendar - three failed virtual installations in a sequence arildb__: joined #tikiwiki USlacker: joined #tikiwiki jacmoe: joined #tikiwiki vmachine: joined #tikiwiki goj_killedByISP: joined #tikiwiki arildb_: joined #tikiwiki arildb__: joined #tikiwiki arildb: joined #tikiwiki lindonb: joined #tikiwiki arildb_: joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki arildb_: joined #tikiwiki arildb__: joined #tikiwiki gour: joined #tikiwiki
i'm trying to install 10.0 beta on my localhost running mariadb-5.5.x, but installer does not recognize it? luciash: polom
gour: sorry, we do not support mariadb - is it fully mysql compatible ?
afaik
if it is fully compatible, it should be just matter of selecting the mysql one or adding it to the dropdown i guess ? gour: mariadb is drop-in replacement for mysql
what about http://doc.tiki.org/Requirements#MySQL saying mariadb is supported?
let me take a look at installer luciash: oh, do u have php-mysql or simmilar installed ?
i dunno about mariadb unfortunatelly gour: yes, php-mysql is installed
oops
it was uninstalled when i replaced mysql with mariadb
it works now, although, iirc, mariadb has it own replacement for innodb, so maybe it would be nice to add some mariadb-specific logic to detect it's mariadb luciash: cool redflo: joined #tikiwiki gour: anyone familiar with WP importer?
first it failed with 256MB mem. limit (it's smalle blog - 3 posts, 2 comments and few pics), now (after increasing limit to 512MB) with: Fatal error: Call to a member function fetchRow() on a non-object in /usr/share/nginx/www/tiki/installer/installlib.php on line 252
skipping images, it did finish :-) marclaporte: :-)
gour: FYI: http://info.tiki.org/Top+10+Reasons gour: marclaporte: i saw post on devel list and looked at it...it's very nice & clean now
do you all use straight svn for commit or someone uses some xyz-svn client like the ones for {bzr,hg,git}? marclaporte: a few use Git-svn gour: good...will git{gub} mirror be just mirror or functional to commit as well?
for our small company (providing counselling & homeopathy treatments), we need to put together a small 'shop'...tiki is capable to do it? luciash: gour: with some efforts, see otaku.com gour: we'd need just to list 'products' and after checkout to provide info how to pay via netbanking etc. later, we might add credit-card authorization using some custom payment module for form-based api
luciash: thanks. looks cute luciash: gour: made by jonnyb marclaporte: git will be just mirror gour: luciash: there are some missing parts in tiki for such setup? marclaporte: tax handling is missing gour: that's good..our company is not in the 'tax' system :-)
...and considering that the new law increased the limit for 'tax-exemption', we can stay small :-)
..unless we decide to enter into tiki-consulting business and become rich :-D luciash: :) marclaporte: In which case, you can code the feature :-) :-)
gour: There is no Wiki consultant in Croatia: http://www.wikimatrix.org/consultants/Tiki+Wiki+CMS+Groupware/-
You could be the first :-) gour: heh...my 1st profession is 'computer engineering' which i graduated long ago, but life went into another direction...however my company can offer computer-related services as well..who knows...if there would be emergency or for selected clients...not as full-time web agency :-)
but let me learn some tiki basics 1st...it runs under nginx on my localhost, but no seo-friendly urls yet -: luciash graduated industry design ;) gour: luciash: you're doing tiki services now? luciash: yup :) gour: cool ;) luciash: webdesign related mostly gour: considering tiki is not into MVC...does it mean any moderb luciash: but consultation and setup/customization too gour: *modern php book (i've bwginning php) + mysql is ok?
*beginning php 5.3
luciash: so, you're the one for 'theme revamp' project?
besides themes.tiki site, any other l
place to find some tiki themes
those typing errors are from my 7-month old daughter :-) luciash: lol
yep, i am into themes. i am author of the *lite CSS "framework" gour: ohh
i must say i like, in general, simplicity luciash: Gary has site called zkakakina.com but mostly his theme ports are on themes.t.o too
i do not know any other tiki themes site gour: “Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler.” luciash: zukakakina.com gour: i saw that luciash: yup, i like KISS too gour: do you plan for the future to adjust *lite, if required, or use something else? luciash: it was/is on my todo list to have site providing tiki themes but did not get to it yet... too many things to do (do not have personal site currently even) gour: heh luciash: i did not have need to adjust it yet, but if there is demand... gour: tiki's themes are in general, 3-column? luciash: it can be 2-1-3
u just switch off column(s) and have 1 col site which u can customize gour: so, no need for YAML, bootstrap etc :-) luciash: for example i made for a client this theme : http://www.hejduk.cz
well, i do not see that need but some ppl request for it because they do not know how-to gour: hwe
nice one luciash: if my time schedule allowed it i would write some tutorials, but, you know... time flies by quickly ;) gour: it's like typo3...so complex for the most simple things...so that some can ask high fees :-)
especially when you have kids :-) luciash: yeah gour: i'm so happy 'discovering' tiki which is simple & powerful
have to put my site together and blog about it luciash: glad u like it gour: tried contao shortly, but they're not into community..tiki's community it the best i've experienced so far luciash: yeah, that is one of the reasons i stayed with Tiki so long
community support rocks
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sup guys
so... im having an odd problem
i properly delete some wikipages that someone created (its SEO spam)
i removed them, but they still show up under "wikipages"
if i click delete, it gives me page not found
if i press edit it show me the content of the page (which i deleted now)
http://imgur.com/a/Fa90j
here are some pictures
how the hell do i completely delete these 2 pages? arildb: deku: try to rename the problem pages first .... I am not sure how you managed to get html encoding in the name deku: these pages are not created by me
spam bot created them arildb: ok deku: fukin hate that bot ^^ arildb: deku: If renaming doesn't work, delete directly in the database deku: how can i rename the page if i cant access it?
clicking the link to the page give me "page not found"
how do i delete directly from the database? you mean like in phpmyadmin? arildb: deleting directly in the database will work
yes phpadmin or similar gour: marclaporte: http://fossilrepos.sourceforge.net/ ;) arildb: the table is called tiki_pages deku: when i click on the link: Don't Miss Out On These Article Marketing Tips Straight From The Experts all it shows me is: Page not found: "Don"
ok i deleted them directly from the database...worked perfectly... thanks for your help...
on a related note... what can be done to stop spam?
captcha is already activated... any other methods to stop SEO spam? vmachine: left #tikiwiki luciash: deku: block by IP deku: i did that for a while, but they would just keep changing ips
seemed like a pointless cat and mouse game
i blocked like 30 different ips... just how many ips could these spammers be using? GillesM: joined #tikiwiki luciash: deku: u can block IP range like 232.123.*.* u know in Tiki banning but of course it is cat and mouse game, u r right
u use ReCaptcha, right ? deku: yeah i activated a recaptcha months ago... didnt seem to stop the bots from signing up
ill check the ips and see if i can find a range i can block... i doubt it.... they probably dont exactly own the range their spamming from (at least thats what i assume) luciash: yeah, thay usually use cracked machines of unaware ppl
to spread the spam deku: thats what i thought... damn botnets... so is there any other human verfication"
i can activate for signup? luciash: maybe with user tracker and some extra field where you would ask some special question
but i personally did not tried this
in trunk there should be PHPIDS to fight spam but dunno about it either
doc.tiki.org/PHPIDS and dev.tiki.org/PHPIDS deku: "user tracker and some extra field" this sounds promising... could you elborate on how to do this? i cant find this anywhere luciash: that is just a theory... i do not know if somebody tried to stop anonymous comments spam using a tracker or anything else ricks99: joined #tikiwiki luciash: what spammers u exactly have ?
comments spam or what kind of spam ? deku: comments arent the problem
they create wiki articles with gibberish and links to marketing/SEO/sketchy stuff ricks99: polom y'all luciash: polom ricks99 !
deku: so u allow anonymous wiki edits, right ricks99: hiya luciash
luciash: still looking for the .selected class :( deku: no anonymous, only users... luciash: deku: ah, so they need to register first deku: yes luciash: deku: and the registrations are done by bot
ricks99: aye :( deku: here we go again... he created a new spam page... and because it has a special charcters in the link it behaves all weird: i cant click the link (page not found) but i can edit the page and see its content.... this is whats on the page: http://pastebin.com/DGyRdpcg
do i really have to go thorough phpmyadmin each time to delete these spam pages with "broken links"??? luciash: deku: u can go to tiki-removepage.php
and add ?page=Name of the page
bbl, lunch time here deku: doesnt work :( Page cannot be found
well... php my admin it is ricks99: deku: you can also delete pages from the tiki-list_pages.php deku: doesnt work
http://imgur.com/a/Fa90j
when i click the little X to delete the page, i get "error: page cannot be found"
the only way i can delete these pages is directly from the DB
its kinda hard to explain... i think it has something to do with the " ' " in the link (all the pages that have been this way have that " ' ") but i cant access the page, i cant delete it. i can only edit it ( but once i press save it give me page not found again) or delete it from the database ricks99: can use the 'no special characters in page names" options so that only alphanumeric characters are allowed Jyhem_laptop: deku: can you rename it from tiki-list_pages.php ? deku: ehmmm.... i did not see an option to rename from tiki-list_pages.php.... the only options i saw where : delete edit copy history and perms
the only option that worked was edit
but i would get an error when i saved (page not found)
the edit still saved though arildb_: joined #tikiwiki deku: ricks99: no special characters in page names is already activated
anyway... i went ahead and deleted the page in Phpmyadmin....still... if anyone has an idea what causes these pages to be existant but not accesible or deletable... id love to hear your ideas.... also fuck spammers luciash: deku: to prevent this, you can limit the characters in page names on Admin > Wiki ricks99: luciash: been looking at TPLs for the ".selected" issue... don't see any {if} statements that check for logged in vs. anonymous seetings so far :( Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki luciash: ricks99: is it possible tha class is injected using jQuery or other JS ?
i checked only in Firebug so far so I am unsure if it is really rendered in the page source or added by JS ricks99: argh...
maybe
*sigh* Tiki|Logger: joined #tikiwiki Topic: for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - The Free and Open Source Web Application with the most built-in features - Tiki 6.8 and 9.2 are out! Question? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log) deku: how would i be able to tell the dif between bots and legit users? USlacker: joined #tikiwiki ricks99: fake names?
can also add a registration tracker to require additional information deku: now that sounds like a good option
where do i do that? ricks99: admin: tracker
see docs for details deku: kk thx luciash: deku: u could also enable require passcode to register and show it up using custom JS to your users - bots usually cannot read JS generated content RobertPlummer: joined #tikiwiki deku: how do i show a custom JS on the register page?
seems like the best option if i can actually gt it to work RobertPlummer: polom all luciash: deku: u can try put this in a custom module: {if $mid eq "tiki-register.tpl"}{jq}document.write("YourPassCodeHere");{/jq}{/if} and then assign the module any zone you want
hi RobertPlummer ! ricks99: polom RobertPlummer luciash: deku: sorry, u cannot use document.write in fact, that was bad JS example ;) hold on deku: sooooo.... im not doing this correctly somehow....this is what i did: 1.) create new custom module 2.) paste {if $mid eq "tiki-register.tpl"}... 3.) assign to page_top... and now it shown on everypage... not just on the register page... where did i go wrong?
oh
ok lol
i just went on the register page... and i can definitly see a difference xD luciash: :) lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki luciash: deku: try this jQuery code instead of the document.write function: $("#tiki-center").append("YourPassCode");
deku: or #pagetop_modules instead #tiki-center deku: like this? {if $mid eq "tiki-register.tpl"}{jq}$("#tiki-center").append("YourPassCode");{/jq}{/if} luciash: depends where you want it to appear
yes deku: ok... and then assign it to what?
i assigned it to page top before and it created this empty box on every page luciash: assign to pagetop and put nobox=y as param deku: ahhh ofcourse
silly me :)
thanks man
ill go try it out luciash: np, for more info about jQuery append see api.jquery.com/append/ -: luciash wonders who had the clever idea to put the site sender email address on the tiki-register page in the remarksbox note for spambots in clear text ? vmachine: joined #tikiwiki
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tried to get it under the pagetitle like this: {if $mid eq "tiki-register.tpl"}{jq}$(".pagetitle").append("cannapedia420");{/jq}{/if}
only tried that after the other 2 you suggested didnt work
then i assigned to pagetop or bottom and went to register page
no dice vmachine: joined #tikiwiki
left #tikiwiki luciash: assigned to Anonymous group ? deku: assigned to all groups.... should i change it to only anon? luciash: no
it works here
deku: my code is {jq}$("form[name='RegForm']").prepend("<b>Passcode to register:</b> l33tB0tZ");{/jq}
deku: could it be that in 9.2 there is no templates/tiki-register.tpl ?
deku: you told before it showed and u saw difference... so i do not understand how come it does not work now for u deku: imma try that :D (on an unrelated note: whats the link to the demo tiki 9x... couldnt find it^^) luciash: demo.tiki.org deku: duh ^^
i just did it on demo.tiki and it worked without a problem.... did the same thing as on my site... no dice RobertPlummer: hi luciash, ricks99 sorry for the late reply
multi tasking today vmachine: joined #tikiwiki
left #tikiwiki deku: ok i tried it a couple of times now and i can NOT get it to work on my site, am i doing this correctly?? http://imgur.com/a/9yF1H (last picture is just to show you that its not showing up)
worked on demo.tiki without a problem luciash: deku: looks correct; maybe don't use the cache
deku: i have position pagetop Bsfez: joined #tikiwiki deku: ok i copied everything 1 to 1 from demo.tiki (where i got it to work) and now its working. i think cache was the problem
set it to 0 now luciash: yep, it could ache previous empty state or something deku: thank you for your help :) this is really gonna save me lots of time that would otherwise be wasted deleting seo spam :)
hopefully luciash: maybe u will need to change from time to time, when they register it
hopefully they do not use something which can read JS
:)
lets see deku: im gonna shit a brick if i get more spam tomorrow ^^ (yeah i thought of that... im kinda hoping they have a fully automated system and never actually check it)
you mean there are bots smart enough to read the passcode and use it??! thats some scary shit luciash: hopefully not ricks99: speaking of spam/bots/captchas... anyone had success implementing a text-based captcha with tiki, for improved usability? Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44074 10trunk/lib/ 10core/Tracker/Field/Category.php 10trackers/trackerlib.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Use standard method to ensure only categories handled by the tracker fields get modified Bsfez: Hi all ricks99: polom Bsfez Bsfez: +1 about captcha luciash: hi Bsfez ricks99: would love to have textcaptcha.com added Bsfez: Hey Rick i saw a picture of you on fb, with a beautiful woman… something is in the air ? :D
Hi Luciash deku: im all for more captcha... make em fill out like 4 of em... dont care... as long as it stops bots captcha is a ok by me :D lphuberdeau: joined #tikiwiki ricks99: Bsfez: lol. noting in the air :)
i have some projects that require specific accessibility requirements. current captcha selections dont meet them deku: how bout using passcodes :P thats what i just did xD ricks99: passcode is valid for registration options. but i need it for other form subissions, too Bsfez: ricks99: Hum ok
:)
About captcha it is important we choose a "multilinguale/cultural" captcha.
Some of the captcha are typically for en reader/speaker. Lot of people have troubles with them. ricks99: agreed. but if a text-based captcha, wouldnt it simply follow the tiki translation model? -: ricks99 asks... not sure vmachine: joined #tikiwiki deku: cya guys gotta catch the bus :D thanks for all the help Bsfez: ricks99: dunno… never though really deep about it… Actually the best captcha i found (user friendly) is at http://tinypic.com something logical, sometimes just wrote down, etc… it is good enough so non english can live fabricius: ricks99 Bsfez - couldn't some dynamic variable be a direction to think, or maybe tranylation of a link or a link synonyme ... I am in contact with a Tiki admin, who did some crazy stuff by "missusing the language.php/customtranslation ... different pictures based on the site language by "translating" a name to image-links ricks99: use of images for captchas is not accessible by most standards :( jonnyb: joined #tikiwiki
polom Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44075 10trunk/templates/object/infobox/trackeritem.tpl
tikiwiki [MOD] infobox: Show labels for edit & delete buttons (in a span so can be hidden with CSS if needed) fabricius: Bsfez ricks99 - http://solvemedia.com/publishers/ Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki ricks99: fabricius: interesting, but video is hardly every accessible Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki luciash: hi jonnyb ! jonnyb: hi luciash sipherdee: joined #tikiwiki Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44076 10trunk/lib/ 10core/Tracker/Field/ItemLink.php 10trackers/trackerlib.php
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sup guys luciash: wb deku: have another problem ^^.... my tikiwiki is sending emails when you register... test mails work... but validation emails dont
any ideas what the cuase of this could be?
i turned of passcodes for now but the problem still persists
tried 3 different mail adresses and it been more then an hour since the first test registration
test mail arrived in like a minute flat
so: verfication mail: not okay -> test mail: okay panamaus: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: joined #tikiwiki Bsfez: joined #tikiwiki
re polom
fabricius, jonny, i'll be really available in 45mn. I have check next tiki.org for an hour seams things are ok. jonnyb: hi Bsfez - well done, see you later Bsfez: i do the bedtime story tonight ;)
tks deku: i have a problem: verfication emails for signing up arent working. test emails work, but i dont get a email with the link when i register a new user. anybody have an idea whats causing this or how to troubleshoot it??? marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44077 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php
tikiwiki [MOD] Allow to specify a URL after removing an item from the list panamaus: joined #tikiwiki deku: i have a problem: verfication emails for signing up arent working. test emails work, but i dont get a email with the link when i register a new user. anybody have an idea whats causing this or how to troubleshoot it??? marclaporte1: joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: hi deku - which tiki version? deku: 9.2
just changed it to smtp and test mail still works
testing now jonnyb: hmm, thought they were ok in 9.2 redmi: joined #tikiwiki
Hello everybody changi: polom jonnyb: hi all changi: jonnyb: hi redmi: I'm a newbie in tiki (I'm working with Xavi de Pedro in www.precarios.org, a young researchers web against precariousness in research work in Spain) and I have a question. changi: redmi: welcome Tiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you!
Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! redmi: We are getting >140 Gb of http traffic and we suspect of tiki forums. Do you think that is better to upgrade to tiki 6.7 or tiki 9.X? Or anything else. Thank you. changi|bbl: in which version are you now? redmi: 6.4, changi Bsfez: Hi changi|bbl deku: verfication mail still aint working even with smtp ricks99: deku: which email? the one to the admin to verify new registrants? or the one to the user with the link?
did you review your mail logs? deku: i checked tikilogs and it looks like it sent the email fine ricks99: which email? redmi: changi|bbl: we have ruled out google/bing bots deku: the email you get when you regsiter
*register ricks99: who? the one that goes to the admin? or the one that goes to the user? many variations, depending on your setup deku: "Validate new user registrations by email" that email
the on to the user
*one ricks99: you confirmed that the email was actully sent?
and it isn't in the user's spam box? deku: i checked
it not ricks99: not sent? deku: the email was NOT sent
im sorry if i wasnt clear on that ricks99: what was the error in the log? deku: test email works
how do i acces the log?
tikilog says no error
but no email sent ricks99: ur mail log? depends on your server
somehting like ../usr/mail/log ?
is your "sent from" address a valid mailbox on your server?
some configurations require that it be a real mailbox
ur using phpmail mailsend, right? deku: i was using sentmail before, but i changed it to smtp now to test.. should i change it back? arildb: joined #tikiwiki ricks99: y. lets test 1 at a time Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44078 10trunk/lib/ 10core/Tracker/Field/ItemLink.php 10trackers/trackerlib.php
tikiwiki [MOD] Make the category inheritence on tracker item more generic, allowing to cascade status and delete as well - also improves logging and index update of status change deku: "Validate user's email server" turn this on or off? ricks99: off deku: ok its off already for testing.... now i just sent myself a testmail using sendmail... so that works
gonna try register now ricks99: what is your "sent from" mail address? deku: admin@mydomain ricks99: 1. that is an invalid address
that's why it isn't being sent
make it a valid email address, then create a corresponding mail box on your host deku: ok it works now... but i dont know what i did to fix it.... (the address isnt actually "mydomain" its a valid email"
lets see if i can get it to work a seconfd time ricks99: ok
working ok? arildb_: joined #tikiwiki redmi: Ok, I leave the IRC open, maybe you have some tips for me. See you everybody. changi: back jonnyb: re-hi changi changi: jonnyb: about your database issue with tweetid, from which version to which version was it ? jonnyb: from 6 (originally 5) to 10 i think
if you check for tweetId in the upgrade schema it's not there (as a new column) changi: jonnyb: ok will try that before release 10 jonnyb: smashing! :) i seem to remember you sorted out a few others like this on a previous release with a php script but i couldn't find it changi: jonnyb: i rember that one
s/rember/remember :) Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44079 10trunk/ 10tiki-filter-base.php 10lib/wiki/renderlib.php 10tiki-index.php 10lib/core/Multilingual/MachineTranslation/GoogleTranslateWrapper.php
tikiwiki [INDENT] Indenting and modernizing code changi: jonnyb: 20100927_better_column_fix_tiki.php it was 2 years ago jonnyb: coo, doesn't tiki fly :) arildb__: joined #tikiwiki Jyhem_: joined #tikiwiki changi: jonnyb: fresh install from 6.8 upgrade to 9.2 without problem
jonnyb: ok 6.8 already have th tweetid :) jonnyb: i think the tweet stuff arrived after tiki 5 changi: jonnyb: checking out 5.x fabricius1: joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: seems it's one of the columns fixed in 20100927_better_column_fix_tiki.php - so must have failed for my upgrade changi: jonnyb: maybe you upgrade your tiki5 when i was trying to have the perfect script jonnyb: is possible - but didn't marclaporte1 also find this one? Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r44080 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
tikiwiki [ENH] add openSUSE detection changi: marclaporte1: ??
jonnyb: ok found it, from Tiki5 to Tiki9 :) jonnyb: changi: ok, so that upgrade php script fails? :( changi: jonnyb: apparently
from 5 to 6 it fails jonnyb: in the middle of another debug currently, will have a look shortly
catching it with a breakpoint should show what's going wrong
is the " AFTER `hash`" bit correct? (i always avoid AFTER in sql, it's usually trouble) Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r44081 10trunk/lib/core/Multilingual/MachineTranslation/GoogleTranslateWrapper.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Additional clean-up
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44082 10branches/10.x/lib/jquery_tiki/elfinder/tiki-elfinder.js
tikiwiki [FIX] elfinder: customData needed even if not in a custom "mode" so move into default elfoptions changi: jonnyb: the strenge thing is when you launch it alone, it works, when you launch it with the other script (during upgrade) it failed jonnyb: those upgrade php scripts are a but mystic
or do i mean fragile? changi: jonnyb: found why :) jonnyb: yay! (wow) changi: we have 2 script with the same name and a different content jonnyb: :D changi: that's why it's not working jonnyb: ah, installlib.php?
or install something... changi: my better fix .php
2 version : one with tweetid fix in tiki6 and on without in tiki5, but as the fix is already marked as being passed in tiki_schema it's not run a second time
i will rename the one in tiki6 to be sure it'll be launched jonnyb: sounds good changi: ok commit Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03changi67 r44083 03branches/10.x/installer/schema/20100927_better_column_fix2_tiki.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Because some time we made mistake, that script is necessary to move from 5 to 6+ and fix tweetId, it was already fix in 6 but with the same name as in 5 so the script was not executed.
tikiwiki 03changi67 r44084 03branches/9.x/installer/schema/20100927_better_column_fix2_tiki.php
tikiwiki [BP/44083][FIX] Because some time we made mistake, that script is necessary to move from 5 to 6+ and fix tweetId, it was already fix in 6 but with the same name as in 5 so the script was not executed.
tikiwiki 03changi67 r44085 03branches/6.x/installer/schema/20100927_better_column_fix2_tiki.php
tikiwiki [BP/44083][FIX] Because some time we made mistake, that script is necessary to move from 5 to 6+ and fix tweetId, it was already fix in 6 but with the same name as in 5 so the script was not executed. jonnyb: looks good changi (from the diffs anyway) Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03changi67 r44086 03branches/7.x/installer/schema/20100927_better_column_fix2_tiki.php
tikiwiki [BP/44083][FIX] Because some time we made mistake, that script is necessary to move from 5 to 6+ and fix tweetId, it was already fix in 6 but with the same name as in 5 so the script was not executed.
tikiwiki 03changi67 r44087 03branches/8.x/installer/schema/20100927_better_column_fix2_tiki.php
tikiwiki [BP/44083][FIX] Because some time we made mistake, that script is necessary to move from 5 to 6+ and fix tweetId, it was already fix in 6 but with the same name as in 5 so the script was not executed. -: jonnyb is impressed by the depth of backporting changi: i wonder if i should do it in tags :) jonnyb: changi: i'll start a merge (branch update) changi: trunk is on his way jonnyb: not allowed in tags (as well you know) ;) changi: jonnyb: was a joke :) jonnyb: you merging? changi: jonnyb: yep -: jonnyb cancels changi: jonnyb: another thing we should fix is : in installib we separate schema (for sql script) from script (for .php script) but we store them at the same place jonnyb: i suppose you could just test for either kind of file and work it out that way changi: jonnyb: and the code is strange, sometime it look in schema folder to check if there is php script and sometime in script forlder
i thing we should remove that folder 'script' and focus on schema
trunk is up2date jonnyb: merci changi Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03changi67 r44088 10(5 files in 5 dirs)
tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/10.x 44061 to 44083
tikiwiki 03fmg-sf r44089 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
tikiwiki [FIX] '/etc/os-release' is intended as generic, not meaning 'openSUSE' jonnyb: how are we doing with the doc|dev*.tiki.org upgrade?
and when i say "we" i mean you obviously :) changi: i can do it now, i was waiting for some order :) jonnyb: Bsfez is hiding in Skype but we could wake him up changi: let's do it
(switching doc and dev ) gour: i've heard few devs uses git-svn to work on tiki...considering that i never used svn (only a bit of CVS) and spent most of my time with dvcs (darcs,bzr,mtn,hg, mostly fossil now and some git), do you recommend git-svn which probably has the best client of those dvcs-svn ones? changi: gour: are you going to commit things on sf.net ?
gour: or is it just to pull code ? gour: changi: marc gave me commit access and i hope to take adavantage of it at one point -: jonnyb is currently totally lost in git, so will ignore this one changi: jonnyb: you shouldn't, it's very powerfull -: gour recommends fossil as easy & powerful dvcs to jonnyb changi: gour: for now, i only pull code with git-svn, never try to commit with it gour: jonnyb: it is dvcs, but can work almost like centalized svn/dvcs tool
changi: i see...that's helpful to know -: gour recommends tiki to move to fossil to make it easier for all users :-) changi: gour: don't think that fossil is more known by users, (i didn't know it)
gour: svn is not so bad gour: changi: it's written by author of sqlite and used for it as well
changi: i'm accustomed to use dvcs, have feature branches etc. jonnyb: changi: fabricius1 seems to be still awake (yay!) so shall we do the upgrade thing? do you have a rollback strategy? (should be fine but... ;) ) changi: jonnyb: i always have a rollback stategy :) gour: changi: this is interesting - http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/fossil-v-git.wiki jonnyb: :) gour: changi: moreover, the whole repos is in one (sqlite3 db )file and the whole application is single executable written in C...with built-in wiki, distributed bug tracker and web ui changi: gour: as i say i hadn't heard of it since you've mentioned it
gour: looks nice gour: changi: well, now you know ;= -: changi wonder why sf.net doesn't provide it :) gour: changi: i tried and used many DVCS-es, but like & understand his argument: http://pastebin.com/Xx7GKMc9 -: changi switching doc :) gour: changi: http://fossilrepos.sourceforge.net/ Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44090 10trunk/ 10templates/trackerinput/files.tpl 10lib/core/Tracker/Field/Files.php
tikiwiki [ENH] elfinder: Add new option to Files trackerfield to allow upload to one gallery and browser from another (not optional as tracker tpls are still using indexes for options so needs to be there even if the feature is off) changi: gour: git is not so difficult gour: changi: it would go nicely along with tiki's "simplicity & powerful"
changi: have you ever had need to dive into refslog? changi: gour: no -: gour considers that git's is dangerous, non-orthoganal design etc. and (too) complex...especially for not so techie users gour: *non-orthogonal
...and it requires from me too much thinking about the tool itself, as richard put nicely
now, git is hype...
who knows what would happen if darcs and/or mtn were quicker when evaluated by linus changi: gour: like you say "who knows" :) gour: changi: let me say that i've decided for tiki over typo3...now you can understand i do honour simplicity & power ;) -: jonnyb agrees fossil looks good, but can we really switch to a vcs i hadn't heard of 30 minutes ago? changi: jonnyb: +1 gour: jonnyb: no need to rush...provide some kind of mirror, ask users to try it out etc.
jonnyb: do you know about mtn?
or darcs? jonnyb: gour: of course, please go ahead, but the experiments with svn/git integration a few years ago didn't get very far due to lack of inertia
nope gour: jonnyb: i was using darcs in 2003 and some years later practically it was used by the whole haskell community...moreover, monotone is also one of the earliest dvcs around...fossil simply took best from many of 'em like sqlite database in mtn etc.
jonnyb: moreover, you should be aware that author of sqlite3 is quite picky about security and sqlite has almost 100% test-coverage to catch regressions
sqlite3 db can survice power outages without getting corrupt...try that with git ,) jonnyb: sorry gour, buffer overflow, trying to do too many things already :) gour: the main point for me & fossil is that's very easy to use allowing to focus on the content and not (d)vcs tool changi: jonnyb: doc.tiki.org is 10 gour: jonnyb: np ;)
jonnyb: i'll try to catch you some other day to ask about ecommerce in tiki..i got info you did a nice shop ;) refizul: polom changi: refizul: hi refizul: future GNU/Linux distributions might have a file /etc/os-release which will be helpful to decide username of webserver in setup.sh
JFTR: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html changi: refizul: in which future ?
refizul: ubuntu has on since 12.10
jonnyb: rebuilding lucene index jonnyb: always fun :)
especially on that one, i guess refizul: changi: Debain Squeeze does not have it changi: refizul: don't think so rwik: joined #tikiwiki refizul: about new standards: http://xkcd.com/927/ jonnyb: so true changi: refizul: +10000 jonnyb: like tiki having one more pref to make it all simple changi: refizul: i'm par of convergence project in my compagny
jonnyb: lol
jonnyb: lucene failed to build the index
jonnyb: damned refizul: announcement related to systemd was: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 jonnyb: ik changi: jonnyb: why don't we have a simple log which say : "oups i missed that page" jonnyb: any specific error? changi: jonnyb: nothing
jonnyb: just stopped jonnyb: "make it optional" :)
try rebuild with log=y (or something) changi: jonnyb: i did, it just log the last wikipage rwik: hello all! I am trying to make it so when I go to print a page via the print button on top of the page it prints the page exactly as it looks in the wiki. I know you can set @media print and specify css for how it should look, but it does not seem to be working (at from the page generated by tiki-print). jonnyb: just "rebuild log" should do it rwik: Does anyone have any background in this area? any tips? jonnyb: yes, so can you work out which page was next? changi: AulaWiki is the last jonnyb: sorry, no rwik, i don't print stuff ;) -: changi save the planet, don't print :) rwik: jonnyb: alright, thanks. I don't really either, but my office does. jonnyb: changi: is it going in title order?
changi: maybe a clue in error.log? changi: AuthPam is the next page jonnyb: (or wherever cli php errors go) RobertPlummer: changi: Just use energy created from burning coal, right? jonnyb: does it render ok? RobertPlummer: :) jonnyb: hey RobertPlummer changi: jonnyb: yes
RobertPlummer: lol, hi jonnyb: try rebuild again? changi: jonnyb: 3 time, doesn't change anything jonnyb: ew
sounds a bit like a block?
there must be a php error somewhere... marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki gour: marclaporte: hiya, what do you think about this: http://pastebin.com/Xx7GKMc9 jonnyb: gour: does fossil have an svn import feature? gour: jonnyb: yes, via git jonnyb: sounds challenging :) gour: today i clone tiki10 trunk and the whole repo is 481M here
git repo (via git-svn) is 132M
and tiki.fossil file is 29M which is good for the servers :-)
here is something else which might be interesting for you...according to ohloh, tiki is 1,016,594 lines of code
one similar project (tcl) is 1,211,570 lines of code (http://www.ohloh.net/p/tcltk) and here are two interesting links: http://www.patthoyts.tk/blog/tcl-and-tk-switch-to-dvcs.html & http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/timeline
enjoy ;) -: jonnyb wonders how changi is getting on gour: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Cookbook#SVN changi: jonnyb: now i play with the 7 errors :) what is the common denominator with page AulaWiki / AuthPAM / Backups ?
jonnyb: if you find the answer you'll find the lucene problem
lphuberdeau: ping gour: i didn't use script, just git-svn clone and then fast-import from git... jonnyb: i was going to suggest a naughtily plugin, but Backups?
maybe trying access a removed backups dir? changi: jonnyb: i think it's Alias the problem jonnyb: ah, sounds poss changi: they all are Alias from a page
if i remove them from indexer it works
jonnyb: but we have a lot of them
wonder why lph is not there when we need him :) gour: jonnyb: it went very quickly - see http://pastebin.com/C4WxszJ5 jonnyb: so it's 3 pages fail? or 3 aliaises? changi: he should appear like a genius
:)
jonnyb: in fact all wiki page which are Aliases from page failed
so 3 aliases :) jonnyb: not sure how to help changi: marclaporte: ping
it's like Quebec is unreachable for now :) jonnyb: seems so changi: jonnyb: is it possible to catch if the page is a alias to skip it jonnyb: not sure how they're handled in indexing
investigating... RobertPlummer: jonnyb: Sorry I'm in and out all day
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