[00:01] marclaporte About activity level: Since early 2011 (For Tiki7), we have been on a very ambitious phase of development and revamps. The code base has been modernized in many places and we made several important/structural changes for the long-term. ex.: http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle   and of course, a large number of new features.
[00:02] marclaporte For example, one of the most advanced and important features in Tiki is called Trackers: http://doc.tiki.org/Trackers
[00:03] marclaporte They were revamped in Tiki7 and Tiki8 and it took a lot of energy
[00:03] marclaporte And in Tiki9 and Tiki10, it's paying off as development is now easier
[00:04] marclaporte A lot of the features have reached the good-enough stage so there is no longer any work on them
[00:05] marclaporte and since Tiki is the http://tiki.org/FOSS+Web+Application+with+the+most+built-in+features, we are running out of completely new features to add
[00:05] marclaporte I feel that it will more & more be about refining features and increasing integration of existing features
[00:06] marclaporte So, the software side is going well, but we are lagging on the Dogfood side
[00:07] marclaporte We have features in Tiki that we would need for the Tiki community and we aren't yet using them
[00:07] marclaporte Ultimately, this is what I'd like to see: http://tiki.org/Evolution+of+participation
[00:13] marclaporte manmi:  I don't see anything at http://test.glassdoc.org/
[00:13] marclaporte what is project about?
[00:33] marclaporte back to activity level: Tiki is not only the http://tiki.org/FOSS+Web+Application+with+the+most+built-in+features but no other major CMS / Web app has released more major versions in the last 4 years
[00:33] marclaporte 2009-05: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki3 LTS
[00:33] marclaporte 2009-11: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki4
[00:33] marclaporte 2010-06: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki5
[00:34] marclaporte 2010-11: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki6 LTS
[00:34] marclaporte 2011-06: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki7
[00:34] marclaporte 2011-11: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki8
[00:34] marclaporte 2012-06: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki9 LTS
[00:34] marclaporte 2012-12: http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki10  (just before the holidays)
[00:36] marclaporte To be fair, WordPress also had 8 major releases during the same approximative time frame http://wordpress.org/about/roadmap/
[00:42] marclaporte Some apps like Typo3 and Joomla! have now moved to a 6-month release cycle, but we have been doing for a longer period. But in all these cases, with their extension-based model, not all features are ready at the same time. And sometimes, extensions are never ported to the next version. Thanks to the Tiki model, we have inherent synchronized releases http://tiki.org/Model#Inherent_synchronized_releases
[01:11] * DrDub founds this explanation most informative :)
[01:15] DrDub marclaporte: I'm calling it a scotch night, I'll be at 22hs at Ile Noir (in St. Denis) if you care to join...
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[01:51] marclaporte DrDub: great! I'll be there
[01:59] marclaporte I think some are OK with a slow (2-3 years cycle) because of the focus on building nice looking public websites (with lots of work on design but with quite basic functionality), and it's more normal to upgrade / change the look of your web site every few years. And we have extended our LTS period to make it better for this type of project, with 3.5 years of support for an LTS version: http://info.tiki.org/Version+Lifecycle
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[02:50] kstingel Tiki issues I have all seem to be OS related -- after having to do a fresh co on Ubuntu box (because of Subversion upgrade to 1.7), my initial 'blank page' problems over there were caused by Zend closing connection during checkout ...
[02:51] kstingel this was overcome by running svn uo on my lib/core/Zend folders individually
[02:51] kstingel * ^ svn up
[02:53] kstingel for the Ubuntu box, I now have individual checkouts for each Tiki branch I'm using due to the way Subversion 1.7 saves checkouts
[02:54] kstingel Windon't continues to have problems with the look as well as with data apparently missing in Tiki ... I will continue to debug this today
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[11:48] manmi marclaporte: Well, you see there a basic installation, do you? Apart from that I barely installed it and figure out what I need and what not.
[11:49] manmi Once it's set up properly it will be moved from the subdomain to glassdoc.org
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[15:50] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44506 10trunk/lib/core/Services/Tracker/Controller.php
[15:50] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Missing var in function for export
[16:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44507 10trunk/lib/core/Services/Tracker/Controller.php
[16:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Pass item info to get_field_handler in export so data gets populated properly (required for ItemsList fields fix to come, but may fix other export problems)
[16:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44508 10trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ItemsList.php
[16:02] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] trackers: Export ItemsList fields (thanks Xavi)
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[17:28] marclaporte polom
[17:29] marclaporte manmi: yesterday, you mentioned bug reports and patches. If you feel sure about your patch, just please commit
[17:48] manmi :-) I will once I'm familiar enough with tiki.
[17:49] marclaporte :-)
[17:49] manmi For now I'm really just trying to figure out what I need and what I don't want for that site I'm setting up
[17:50] manmi I don't really have more than 30 to 60 minutes per day for that but thanks for the encouragement
[17:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03marclaporte r44509 10trunk/lang/fr/language.php
[17:56] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Better French translations
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[18:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03marclaporte r44510 10trunk/lang/fr/language.php
[18:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Some translations to French for maps
[18:24] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03marclaporte r44511 10branches/10.x/lang/fr/language.php
[18:24] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [bp/r44510] Some translations to French for maps
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[18:52] Bsfez polom… can't update anymore my tiki10 using svn… "svn: Delta source ended unexpectedly" i had that once deleted the file where it stopped and it could complete… not this time. I'm alone in that case ?
[19:03] marclaporte try asking in #sourceforge
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[20:19] pedor hi, is it possible to extend task funcionality to include more options like status, context, project? like a gtd software? or it must be done throught a tracker
[20:33] pedor I'm looking at tracker and there's one item about gtd. And after looking tracker it seems it can be done trhough a tracker, but I have no ideia how
[20:44] marclaporte pedor: trackers is better if you need it to be extendable
[20:54] pedor nice
[20:54] pedor I'm testing and it's quite easy to do a very, very simple, gtd system
[21:16] marclaporte Super!
[21:47] marclaporte pedor: it would make a nice profile: http://profiles.tiki.org
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[21:47] g4mm4 hi
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[22:09] pedor marclaporte: ok.
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