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[12:55] jonnyb another week, another polom
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[13:00] ricardon How do allow users to book and appointment from a wiki page?
[13:00] jonnyb hi ricardon
[13:01] ricardon hi
[13:01] jonnyb usually that's done with a "tracker"
[13:01] ricardon finding myself not getting anywhere with the docs
[13:01] jonnyb http://doc.tiki.org/Trackers
[13:02] jonnyb you're not the first!
[13:02] ricardon I see the need for a tracker and the calendar but i don not understand how to integrate the two
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[13:02] fabricius polom
[13:02] jonnyb the easiest place to start would be with a profile - it will build a tracker for you
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[13:02] jonnyb hi fabricius
[13:02] fabricius ricardon / jonnyb just popping in a second
[13:03] fabricius there is a different type of calendar
[13:03] fabricius => use tracker as a calendar
[13:03] fabricius I just look in the docs
[13:03] jonnyb ricardon: http://profiles.tiki.org/Bug_Tracker will build a simple one for you, with a wiki page for the form
[13:03] fabricius xavi showed us in Barcelona for ressource management
[13:04] jonnyb so a tracker's a good place to start?
[13:04] ricardon thanks looking now. I think the bit i am missing is how to add the data entry forms for trackers onto wiki pages
[13:06] jonnyb it uses a {tracker} plugin
[13:06] jonnyb http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTracker
[13:07] fabricius must be here ricardon http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerCalendar&structure=Documentation+TOC
[13:08] fabricius jonnyb: I did write you an email, cause I need some help in implementing responsive design in Tiki
[13:08] fabricius I think the mqin task would be to get some new condition into the visibility options of the modules
[13:08] jonnyb fabricius: i think if ricardon is just starting out in tiki keeping it simple to start with might be better - tiki easily can swamp you!
[13:09] jonnyb fabricius: will try and read it later
[13:09] ricardon ok , thanks Jonnyb , bit surprised at myself not finding these pages. I have been looking for an hour! I have been app programming for many years but completely new to tiki
[13:09] jonnyb sorry, i _will_ read it later, not just try! :P
[13:09] fabricius jonnyb: you are right, but we do not know his pre-knowledge and he seems to have a very specific usecase/problem
[13:10] ricardon I want to use it to allow one group of people to offer a service and another to book that service
[13:10] ricardon Thanks Fabricius, Johnnyb
[13:10] fabricius jonnyb: thx ... its ok ;-) ...
[13:10] jonnyb ricardon: welcome to tiki! app programmers most welcome!
[13:10] ricardon great to have such good support
[13:11] jonnyb tiki does groups and perms pretty well
[13:11] ricardon If I can get my brain around this I should be helpful to the community
[13:11] fabricius i have to go ... see ya later
[13:11] fabricius good luck ricardon and welcome to th ecommunity
[13:11] jonnyb quite easy to set up one group to have admin and another just to enter data
[13:12] jonnyb try and get your head around the profiles - they will simplify lots of complex tasks and show you what's possible...
[13:13] jonnyb however, set up a blank default tiki (locally for instance) to play with - profiles can make changes you wouldn't want on a production site (and there's no undo!)
[13:13] ricardon ok, what I want is a separate tracker linked with each group. Group A : details their offer  Group B: Shows their skills and makes application
[13:14] ricardon I greated the groups and the trackers. But now look to integrate the data entry into nice wiki type pages and format the output.
[13:15] ricardon Group A should see a list of who has applied and group b should get to see a list of their applications.
[13:15] ricardon I should think this has been done a million times in tiki
[13:19] jonnyb indeed, of course
[13:20] ricardon Is there a repository of scripts that people have used with tiki?
[13:20] jonnyb you probably should look at some of ricks99 books and sites - let me find one
[13:20] ricardon sort of a library of hacks
[13:20] ricks99 you rang?
[13:20] ricardon lol , that was fast
[13:20] jonnyb ah, hi ricks99
[13:20] ricks99 somone said "ricks99"
[13:20] ricks99 ;-)
[13:20] ricks99 polom y'all
[13:21] jonnyb do you have a good recipe to follow for a pretty tracker form system?
[13:21] jonnyb some sort of bookings thing i think, for ricardon here
[13:22] ricks99 yup. There's a "pretty tracker" section in Tiki Essentials
[13:22] ricks99 http://twessentials.tikiforsmarties.com
[13:22] jonnyb thought so, thanks!
[13:23] jonnyb ricardon: have a look here too: http://tikiforsmarties.com/Books
[13:23] ricks99 no problem
[13:23] jonnyb :)
[13:24] ricardon ok think I need to read some of this stuff and come back to you.
[13:24] ricardon Thanks heaps.
[13:26] ricks99 bbl
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[14:10] luciash polom polom
[14:11] jonnyb moloq moloq
[14:14] luciash :)
[14:15] luciash jonnyb: hi, will backport your {query} fix, don't you mind, do you ?
[14:15] jonnyb the clue tip one?
[14:16] jonnyb sure - it's a bit hacky but works
[14:16] jonnyb (has been like that since tiki 6 i think! ;) )
[14:16] luciash the print one
[14:19] jonnyb or right - sure, backport whatever works :)
[14:22] Jyhem polom
[14:25] Jyhem I just got some good suggestion to add class perspective{categnumber} to body when $prefs['feature_perspective'] == 'y'
[14:26] Jyhem jonnyb: is the commit path still Tiki10 → backport to trunk → 9.x ?
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[14:42] luciash Jyhem: i think it depends what is your primary target to fix
[14:43] luciash Jyhem: there are no more automerges to trunk if i understood correctly
[14:44] Jyhem ok. I did the merge anyway
[14:45] Jyhem message should pass promptly
[14:45] luciash if you do it it is ok
[14:45] luciash :)
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[14:46] Jyhem rimary target is 9.x
[14:47] Jyhem It's risk-free, I'll backport
[14:47] jonnyb hi Jyhem (sorry, disasters everywhere) - no one's regularly merging from 10 to trunk so i say go trunk -> 10 -> 9
[14:49] Jyhem jonnyb: ok. Understood. Will do that next. I suspected 10 → trunk → 9 would not last forever. This one was 10 → trunk → 9
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[14:56] jonnyb just updated http://dev.tiki.org/Where+to+commit#Dashboard
[14:57] jonnyb a bit late - merging sort of stopped last year
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[15:03] Jyhem thanks jonnyb
[15:08] Jyhem Someone asks me if it would be a lot of work to add a new modules "box" on top of all the existing ones. I wonder wht I should answer :-) The purpose would be, put all admin modules there, so it would not show for normal users, and make it show/hide on the left side of the browser screen.
[15:08] Jyhem I saw it done using the right "box". works nicely (but uses up the "right box"
[15:11] luciash u mean to keep the right column and add an extra one which would show up next or over it ?
[15:12] luciash maybe you can use shadowlayers feature for it and put the modules there using the {wiki} syntax ?
[15:13] luciash or you need the drag and drop ?
[15:13] luciash and the toggle icon ?
[15:15] Jyhem luciash: no toggle icon, just drag & drop modules in the box
[15:16] Jyhem wait for demo
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[16:00] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX]Oupss... thanks jb for poking me
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[16:07] jonnyb luciash: good fix (by the look of it) in r44911 - thanks
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[16:08] luciash jonnyb: yup, i think it is better now
[16:08] jonnyb :)
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[16:18] lindonb polom
[16:19] jonnyb hi lindonb - how goes?
[16:20] lindonb jonnyb: doing well, thank you!
[16:20] lindonb and you?
[16:20] Jyhem Hmmm Luci, I think the one param you do NOT want to carry over is the highlight param
[16:20] jonnyb not bad thanks - enjoying being at home for a change! :)
[16:21] lindonb yes, you've been on the go for a while
[16:21] luciash Jyhem: why not, i want to highlight what i looked for in print
[16:21] lindonb looks like query table sorter forked
[16:21] lindonb http://mottie.github.com/tablesorter/docs/index.html
[16:22] lindonb forked version has nice-looking table filtering and other goodies
[16:23] jonnyb might be worth trying an update? (locally first, obviously)
[16:23] luciash Jyhem: except it does not highlight in print view anyway :-(
[16:23] luciash Jyhem: at least with fivealive
[16:24] lindonb jonnyb: yes, how does do that?
[16:24] lindonb externals are a mystery to me (along with a lot of other things)
[16:25] jonnyb just try replacing the file(s) locally and see if it all still works first
[16:25] lindonb got it
[16:25] jonnyb it'll automatically commit to third_party if and when you're ready (on that one as it's on our svn inside lib/jquery i think)
[16:26] Jyhem luciash: well, that's cool, then :-) When i search words, it is nice that the search words are hihlighted, but for printing the page, not a good idea
[16:27] luciash Jyhem: if you do not want the params, just click refresh on the page title ;)
[16:28] lindonb jonnyb: cool, thanks
[16:28] Jyhem luciash: I know and I do. My users… not quite sure
[16:41] luciash Jyhem: if they complain you can tell them ;)
[16:57] Jyhem has that ever worked ? :)
[17:12] luciash what is &page_ref_id=1 good for ???
[17:14] luciash jonnyb: i mean it is not passed using {query} if the display page as structure or something like that is used on wiki homepage now, but i do not see any side effect - it still displays the same to me
[17:14] luciash including the structure navigation box
[17:14] jonnyb isn't it used in structures? (don't know so left it alone)
[17:15] luciash i mean you removed it and only affected thing is when using tiki-index.php as wiki homepage . it does not get passed to {query}, otherwise it works if referrenced in URL of course
[17:16] luciash the previous code passed it in $page_ref_id automagically
[17:17] luciash even when it was not present in the URL as param
[17:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r44914 10trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php
[17:18] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] categs: Only return array of the categIds even if parentId = 0. Doesn't seem to break anything else but look out for side-effects (thanks Trebly)
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[17:26] luciash jonnyb: ok, until anybody complains, it can stay - we can add the ref_id check back any time
[17:27] jonnyb isn't page_ref_id an auto_query_arg? So should get added if it was there in the first place i think, no?
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[17:31] luciash jonnyb: i don't know how exactly the wiki index page works but i know if it is HomePage it removes the page name part and anything else and it displays just using the tiki-index.php and if there is page_ref_id it was added too even when it was not present in the URL
[17:31] luciash jonnyb: which is not the case using {query}... i will try now if it is kept when i use the _keepall param
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[17:32] jonnyb ok, sorry - can't ceck this stuff now
[17:32] jonnyb check
[17:33] luciash ok, seems it is not, anyway, not a big deal i think for now. i was just hoping you know more than me ;)
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[18:09] Jyhem I have a website with one perspective 1 and perspective 0, of course. When I am in perspective 1 and I access /tiki-admin.php I get the CSS of perspective 0. Is that on purpose ?
[18:09] Jyhem I seem to remember some conversation, but I forgot the conclusion :-(
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[18:40] luciash anybody knows where lib/smarty/ moved in trunk ?
[18:42] jonnyb into vendors/smarty
[18:42] jonnyb you'll have to run setup.sh and get the new packaging thing working (it's a bit dull)
[18:43] jonnyb http://dev.tiki.org/Composer
[18:53] Jyhem Hmm, I notice the page http://dev.tiki.org/Composer fails to mention the benefits one expects of Composer :-( I guess I'll understand when i encounter them?
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[19:08] jonnyb Jyhem: not necessarily :) svn up is a bit quicker... that's about it i think
[19:12] * Jyhem feels we need some concept of evaluating new stuff. Some concept with room for negative evaluations.
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[19:34] Jyhem About the admin pages jumping out of the perspective: it seems to be by design :-(
[19:36] Jyhem lib/setup/prefs.php, line 395 : if ( ! isset( $section ) || $section != 'admin' ) {
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[20:21] luciash what is the best way to get the last portion/of/an/uri?to=smarty ?
[20:22] luciash after the last /
[20:23] jonnyb it's somewhere in the $smarty object - $smarty.server.request_query or something
[20:23] luciash $smarty.server.REQUEST_URI returns absolute path from first / (including)
[20:24] lindonb can't get past the "you're not completely set up" composer message
[20:25] luciash setup.sh fix worked for me, lindon
[20:25] lindonb when i run setup.sh, it says my lock file is out of date
[20:25] luciash 'setup.sh fix' is the command
[20:25] lindonb okay let me try that
[20:25] luciash lock file of svn ?
[20:27] lindonb i'm assuming the composer.lock file but not sure
[20:27] jonnyb no, the lock file is something to do with composer
[20:27] jonnyb yup
[20:27] jonnyb lindonb: i have a half finished email about what i did to get it working - shall i send it to you? (might have some clues)
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[20:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] profiles filegals: Only show the "columns" and "popups" specified in the profile if anything is set (otherwise use the defaults)
[20:28] lindonb jonnyb: that would be great :)
[20:28] lindonb i get a runtime exception too
[20:28] lindonb Package could not be downloaded, sh: svn: command not found
[20:32] jonnyb actually it's not so much help...
[20:33] jonnyb i needed to install the php openssl extension, and on my server i had to add something to php.ini
[20:33] lindonb eek!
[20:33] luciash svn command not found ? oups
[20:33] jonnyb lindonb: sent you the mail anyway
[20:34] jonnyb what's the full error you are getting?
[20:34] lindonb ok, thanks
[20:35] luciash jonnyb: i use the REQUEST_URI - that is why i need to strip all except last / and the rest after
[20:35] lindonb full message:
[20:35] jonnyb luciash: have a look in phpinfo - there might be one that already has what you want
[20:36] lindonb You are using the latest composer version.
[20:36] lindonb Loading composer repositories with package information
[20:36] lindonb Installing dependencies from lock file
[20:36] lindonb Warning: The lock file is not up to date with the latest changes in composer.json. You may be getting outdated dependencies. Run update to update them.
[20:36] lindonb - Installing smarty/smarty (v3.1.13)
[20:36] lindonb Checking out /tags/v3.1.13/@4699
[20:36] lindonb 
[20:36] lindonb [RuntimeException]
[20:36] lindonb Package could not be downloaded, sh: svn: command not found
[20:36] lindonb 
[20:36] lindonb install [--prefer-source] [--prefer-dist] [--dry-run] [--dev] [--no-custom-installers] [--no-scripts] [--no-progress] [-v|--verbose] [-o|--optimize-autoloader]
[20:36] lindonb whoa - sorry about that!
[20:36] jonnyb :D
[20:36] jonnyb is this on mac os?
[20:36] lindonb yes
[20:37] luciash jonnyb: thanks
[20:37] jonnyb and using mamp?
[20:37] lindonb no, native php and apache
[20:37] jonnyb and you have svn installed?
[20:38] jonnyb (you only need to get composer working for svn i think)
[20:38] lindonb maybe not - i have it as part of phpstorm
[20:38] jonnyb ah, ok - that'll be in a different place (inside phpstorm)
[20:39] jonnyb easiest would be to install svn from collabnet
[20:40] jonnyb http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion (community downloads)
[20:40] jonnyb except those are all only svn 1.6 and phpstorm uses 1.7 which isn't compatible...
[20:41] jonnyb unless you told it to use 1.6 when you did the checkout
[20:41] lindonb i told it to use 1.7
[20:42] jonnyb it'll be on the "Subversion Working Copies Information" tab on the changes panel (in phpstorm)
[20:42] jonnyb meh
[20:43] lindonb found it - says 1.7
[20:43] jonnyb http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download has some 1.7s for mac
[20:43] jonnyb no idea who they are tho (looks ok)
[20:44] lindonb okay, thanks
[20:45] lindonb i notice I do have a .subversion folder in my user directory
[20:45] lindonb as well as a .subversion_IDEA folder
[20:46] jonnyb the IDEA one is phpstorm, the other might be too
[20:46] lindonb don't quite get why I need to download svn?
[20:46] lindonb is it to separately update composer?
[20:46] jonnyb setup.sh expects it to be there
[20:47] jonnyb (apparently)
[20:51] lindonb ok
[20:51] lindonb will try it
[20:56] arildb Hi, I made a test with a CkEditor 4 integration in Tiki
[20:56] arildb Seems to work well. Only minor changes needed
[20:58] arildb Should this go into an experimental branch, or add it to trunk...maybe with an option to CkEditor 4
[21:00] jonnyb hi arildb - sounds good
[21:00] jonnyb how well (does it seem)?
[21:00] jonnyb can you put it somewhere people could try it a bit?
[21:02] arildb only locally right now
[21:02] arildb It's very few changes. Maybe I can add it to trunk?
[21:02] arildb hard coding the ckeditor4 option for now
[21:03] jonnyb hmm, i'd be tempted to not make it optional i think
[21:03] jonnyb get the pain over with! :D
[21:03] arildb maybe best suited as an experimental for now. Just to look
[21:04] jonnyb it depends on if you think we (you maybe) can get it stable before we branch for 11
[21:05] jonnyb sorry, i have to go now... i guess we can unoptionlise it later
[21:05] arildb it looks like a very smooth transition. Only minor changes. No errors in my tests so far
[21:05] arildb yes
[21:05] jonnyb ok, good luck - looking forward to it (sort of)
[21:06] arildb the inline editing is trhe interesting part. I haven't looked at that
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[21:27] joelCOE Hello
[21:27] joelCOE luciash
[21:27] joelCOE Answering intead of jyhem
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[21:28] joelCOE Actually, the solution we use currently takes us the right zone in our website
[21:29] joelCOE The idea is to use an entire site zone to drop modules within with only admin rights.
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[21:30] joelCOE If it is the very first zone to appear, then it can be a a top admin bar, over the top bar
[21:30] joelCOE We can as well use the top bar, but actually this makes us mix logo and menus...
[21:31] joelCOE end of answer to luciash
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[21:36] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Add CkEditor4
[21:38] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r44921 10trunk/lib/ckeditor4/ 10(16 files in 3 dirs)
[21:38] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Add kama skin from CkEditor 3.6. Used by Tiki
[21:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r44922 10trunk/ 10lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/tikiplugin/plugin.js 10lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/_tikilink/plugin.js 10lib/ckeditor_tiki/wysiwyglib.php
[21:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [NEW] Integrated CkEditor 4, which is set as the active editor.
[21:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Removed BiDi settings, since they caused JS errors.
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[22:03] g4mm4 hi
[22:04] g4mm4 i have a few questions   if you don't mind ?
[22:06] g4mm4 mm ok   it's on  as.elvista.com/index.php
[22:07] g4mm4 how can i reduce the blank space below the logo?
[22:09] g4mm4 it's tiki10
[22:10] luciash hi g4mm4
[22:11] luciash lemme have a quick look
[22:11] g4mm4 thx
[22:20] luciash g4mm4: try #top_modules .box-logo {height: 230px} in your CSS
[22:21] g4mm4 so i really need to edit css manualy ?  ok  what is the name of the css file?
[22:22] luciash joelCOE: ok, you can just put modules in any zone and make them visible only assigned to Admins group
[22:22] luciash joelCOE: e.g. bottom
[22:23] luciash g4mm4: you do not need to, you can also put it in Look&Feel > Custom CSS admin panel
[22:23] joelCOE @ g4mm4
[22:23] joelCOE #header { height: 26em; width: 100%;
[22:23] g4mm4 mm the profile was great   in the end i'd like the logo as abackground
[22:23] g4mm4 ah ok
[22:23] g4mm4 i try it right now
[22:23] joelCOE darkroom.css
[22:23] joelCOE Buggy ;)
[22:24] joelCOE Just remove this in firebug and the bizarre height is gone
[22:24] luciash joelCOE: and then use position: fixed to position it on any edge of the screen
[22:25] g4mm4 mm  i feel overrolled ;)  sorry
[22:26] luciash joelCOE: or do you have all the zones occupied ?
[22:26] g4mm4 shall i try the css code  #top_modules ... now?
[22:26] g4mm4 it's everwhere   anonymous, admin
[22:27] luciash g4mm4: i tried in firebug and it helped, you can try too, yes :)
[22:27] joelCOE luciash : the idea is to have a zone only to put admin stuff in top or left part of the website
[22:27] luciash joelCOE: you mean you are too lazy to assign every module to Admins group so you need special admin zone ?
[22:29] luciash joelCOE: you can have #bottom_modules {position: fixed; left 0; top: 10px}
[22:29] luciash joelCOE: so they appear on left edge of the viewport
[22:29] joelCOE g4mm4 in darkroom.css line 388 #top_modules #sitetitles {margin: 10% 20px;} does the bug. Just remove or override
[22:29] luciash gtg
[22:29] g4mm4 isn't the an option  like    somewhere title,sub-tiltle is set by background:black  .. can't i just change black to an image?   but where?
[22:30] g4mm4 and darkroom.css is where to find please
[22:32] g4mm4 but i tested other profiles  all the same
[22:32] g4mm4 just for an addition
[22:33] g4mm4 so // the line would be helpful   or how do you comment in css
[22:35] g4mm4 ok i'll try it
[22:35] g4mm4 while that   how can i set articles_home my default site?
[22:36] joelCOE luciash : Actually, I need a "box" (div, or anything) to drop modules within, on top of tiki zones, and yes, then I need to add admin group only to change visibility of it.
[22:38] joelCOE If you don't have access to your darkroom.css, you can add some custom css here : tiki-admin.php?page=look&cookietab=2 in Custom CSS part (look and feel, Customization)
[22:38] joelCOE It should override
[22:38] joelCOE If, not, add a class
[22:39] joelCOE Then if you don't already use it, please test firebug ;)
[22:40] g4mm4 i have ftp access
[22:41] g4mm4 so commending out line 388 is the solution?
[22:44] g4mm4 ok   so the same is on the ugly dispay of shoutbox on the site?
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[22:44] g4mm4 hi
[22:46] lindonb lphuberdeau: I created a php file with passthru('svn --help');
[22:46] joelCOE g4mm4 : sorry but the shoutbox = more work
[22:46] lindonb and I got this error: sh: svn: command not found
[22:46] joelCOE Uses tables ...
[22:47] lindonb lphuberdeau: I ran it in the tikiroot
[22:47] g4mm4 k  it works fine for registered
[22:49] joelCOE g4mm4 : you must add .box-data td {display: block; float: left; width: 100%} to your css, but this doesn't work well in old versions of iexplore (8 OK)
[22:50] g4mm4 @joelCOE  can i do this within the tiki admin   or do i need to edit files directly?
[23:01] joelCOE g4mm4 : you can add some css in look&feel>customization to override
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[23:01] joelCOE But if you have access to css, it is better to edit it :) All changes in the same place...
[23:03] g4mm4 k i used this and pasted :"  .box-data td {display: block; float: left; width: 100%}   "
[23:03] g4mm4 didn't change anything
[23:04] marclaporte arildb: yay for CK Editor 4!
[23:04] arildb marclaporte: thanks.
[23:06] joelCOE Changed in your site, try CTRL+refresh
[23:06] arildb marclaporte: does CkEditor work ok on your side. I have only tested with Windows
[23:06] joelCOE Then you need to add #captcha img {width: auto;}
[23:06] marclaporte arildb: testing now
[23:07] joelCOE sorry was @ g4mm4
[23:08] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03luciash r44923 10trunk/templates/tiki-page_bar.tpl
[23:08] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [ENH] Bookmarks (wiki page): keep URL params to bookmark the same content as displayed
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[23:10] g4mm4 k i guess i get it managed by source     one last question:   i want to generate a new main munue entry   by an article which mainly is an iframe?
[23:16] joelCOE g4mm4 : looks tricky. The easiest to add a menu is to set up a structure with some copy/paste of indented text (use on space for level1, two spaces for level2, ... you can use search/replace to do it from some source copied in a good text editor, like geany), then add a menu and put the name of your structure. Then, you have to fill the wiki pages with content or iframes or whatever :)
[23:18] marclaporte I am getting: Warning: The lock file is not up to date with the latest changes in composer.json. You may be getting outdated dependencies. Run update to update them.
[23:18] joelCOE g4mm4 add this menu in the modules menu
[23:24] g4mm4 i just want to run an irc web access
[23:24] g4mm4 hell
[23:25] g4mm4 i like the features   i always used joomla   this is why i ask so stupid conversion questions
[23:25] g4mm4 alone latex  or displaying R is neat
[23:29] joelCOE No prob. I'm also discovering. R is planned for use as well in our WS...
[23:30] marclaporte arildb: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=wysiwyg_sample_page
[23:30] arildb checking
[23:32] arildb seems to work fine, or?
[23:32] marclaporte I get the feeling some extra line breaks are added
[23:32] marclaporte It works well for such an upgrade
[23:32] arildb ok...could be
[23:33] marclaporte jCapture is not working so I can't easily show you :-)
[23:35] arildb marclaporte: yes, line breaks are added. ...
[23:36] marclaporte If a page is converted from wiki to WYSIWYG, the diff is wonky but I guess this is too be expected
[23:36] arildb marclaporte: was jCapture working before?
[23:37] marclaporte I don't know, but I doubt very much it's related to this commit
[23:37] arildb ok
[23:38] marclaporte arildb: about articles, which have one wiki box, and one WYSIWYG box, there is a patch floating around by e-mail which should make it to tiki-devel for public evaluation soon
[23:38] marclaporte Heading vs body of articles: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-edit_article.php
[23:39] marclaporte ck4 feels faster than ck3
[23:40] arildb I sure hope other people will join in, if CkEditor 4 is to be stabalized.
[23:40] arildb yes, it does seem a bit faster
[23:40] marclaporte You did the right thing by opening the dance floor!
[23:40] arildb he he ... I hope so
[23:40] g4mm4 <script type="text/javascript" src="lib/menubuilder/menu.js"></script>   is it mabybe a jscript option job?
[23:41] marclaporte PluginMouseover doesn't work, when trying to input new content
[23:41] joelCOE g4mm4 sorry not my level of skill...
[23:41] marclaporte ok, none of the plugin tools work
[23:42] arildb so, there is a bit of work to get it stable
[23:43] g4mm4 k  all i wanted to know was if it was ok to manipulate the source   so it seems to be   as find a neat solution i post it here
[23:44] marclaporte arildb: editing the plugins works beautifully
[23:44] arildb oh good!
[23:44] joelCOE Ok, thanks :) Good luck ;)
[23:46] marclaporte arildb: where should I log issues?
[23:46] arildb not sure. Maybe start a CkEditor4 page on dev?
[23:48] marclaporte perfect
[23:52] marclaporte http://dev.tiki.org/CKEditor4
[23:53] arildb looks good
[23:57] joelCOE Bye all