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[02:47] kstingel I've just created a "Tiki Themer" project (locally) where I'm playing around with Tiki's templates ... trying to get them using inheritance a bit more
[02:49] kstingel I don't have the working files as part of a full-blown Tiki (yet) and Smarty is tripping over the {tr}some text{tr/} in my template(s) ... which files would I need to copy across to my project?
[02:49] luciash hi kstingel, sounds cool
[02:49] luciash what inheritance u mean, tpls ?
[02:50] kstingel so far I only have "layout.tpl" and "head.tpl" .. but smarty won't play nice with them
[02:50] kstingel yup :)
[02:51] luciash it is better to keep the tiki.tpl base html structure and inherit in it, imho... or you mean you just renamed tiki.tpl to layout.tpl ?
[02:51] kstingel I'm attempting to separate core Tiki design from themable design, then create a heavily documented theme.tpl file which ppl can then modify
[02:52] luciash in fact ideal would be if people do not need to modify tpl files at all when creating themes - all should be CSS theming only
[02:52] kstingel I'm trying to clean it up completely, and move the PHP out of it ... I can't use them as they are for my ePublisher anyways
[02:54] luciash unfortunately i do not know what files u need to copy... best is creating your theme and override by copy of tiki files in templates/styles/yourtheme/yourcustomized.tpl
[02:54] kstingel at present, I'm going into cyclic loops trying to see what I need from where, so I've started over with just a simple html tpl and I'm porting "tiki.tpl" into it gradually
[02:56] kstingel technically, we should be doing our ifs before assigning to Tiki, so I'm building a set of basic vars to use in tests
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[02:58] kstingel I'm slightly??? OCD .... I want my ePublisher to be able to publish articles, blog-posts and other stuff, not just wiki structure, so I need to "sanitise" the existing templates to create the ePub templates
[02:59] kstingel ... or rather, I need to pre-process all the ifs so that my new templates only assign the results
[02:59] luciash have u seen themes.tiki.org/default+templates ?
[03:00] kstingel I'm leaving the loops tho ... because I won't know how many items are to be published
[03:02] kstingel language and translation stuff should be processed before going through to the tiki-epub.tpl file though, so that stuff can be handled outside of the template
[03:02] luciash kstingel: also see https://dev.tiki.org/templates+best+practices
[03:03] luciash kstingel: it is a lot to learn though (a gentle warning ;))
[03:04] kstingel I looked at it ages ago, before Tiki made the switch to Smarty3 ... now I'm having fun trying to Smarty3ify the existing files and extend pages rather than having the full page code
[03:04] luciash all right :)
[03:05] kstingel lol ... I've been trying to smarty3ify Tiki for a while, but I kept getting drawn into to other aspects of Tiki
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[03:37] kstingel luciash: has Tiki's default layout changed much since Tiki 3.0? (the example image is slightly aged)
[03:38] luciash kstingel: not much
[03:39] kstingel I'll do a mockup of the Tiki 11.0 layout, then compare the two :)
[03:40] kstingel my main dilemma is what goes where in the layout, and what will actually be needed in the ePublisher
[03:40] kstingel once I sort that, I can reuse existing components and just direct the resultant data to the correct epub3 files
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[03:42] luciash enable TPL indication in rendered source if that helps
[03:42] luciash kstingel: ^
[03:44] kstingel I have that switched on :) but tracking where each module lives is the fun part ... then working out if I can publish said module to the current readers
[03:45] luciash modules live only in the module zones
[03:45] kstingel maybe Tiki will end up having a new ePub3 reader as a spin-off
[03:46] luciash i would not care about modules for now ;)
[03:46] kstingel apologies, wrong wording .. I need to source each 'printable' component
[03:47] kstingel new spec allows for audio, video and svg, so I need to find where they are likely to live within the Tiki pages so that I can pull in the existing info
[03:48] luciash new spec ?
[03:48] kstingel to me, each div on the page is a 'module' which I may or may not be able to include in the book
[03:49] kstingel ePub3 sopec (as opposed to the predominant ePub 2)
[03:50] kstingel I'm trying to make the ePub builder forward compatible, so I'm including as much as I can from the start
[03:50] kstingel then I either have to wait for readers to catch up, or develop my own ePub3 reader software
[03:51] luciash whoa, great ambitions :)
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[03:52] luciash u mean u researched and there is no usable 3rd party lib, right ?
[03:53] kstingel not so much ambition, just very impatient ... if I can't find more than 1 reader for Windon't and 1 reader for Android (as is current case) I'll create my own
[03:54] kstingel then sell it on Google Apps for $3.50 a pop devil
[03:55] kstingel or maybe $5.00 if I include a library manager
[03:56] kstingel ... I still can't get Calibre for Droid working :(
[04:11] kstingel bk in a bit ... Windon't needs a kick in the pants
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[13:03] Trebly <Anybody> Hi, Who uses Eclipse ? Then do you use "Juno" version ? Then do you know if there is an editor for Smarty TPL, the previous part of of the PDT env. is only available till   "acceleo" ...
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[13:21] jonnyb polomonday
[13:24] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Dev tools : TPL editor in Eclipse ? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46315
[13:25] luciash yadnomoloq
[13:26] luciash *yabnomoloq
[13:40] jonnyb hi luciash
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[14:02] luciash yo jonnyb
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[14:06] jonnyb yo yo all :)
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[14:45] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki Wiki side by side translation - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46318
[15:11] jonnyb Hi lphuberdeau - got a mo? I've run into the filegal perms issue again for userfiles i need to add to tracker File fields, not sure what to do - i need to add an exception for the owner of a user gallery (can upload etc), just wondering what the least ugly way of doing it might be?
[15:12] lphuberdeau file upload should be handled by a service
[15:12] lphuberdeau which should already have some checking going on
[15:12] jonnyb i found Perms_Check_Creator but can't see how to connect it to anything
[15:13] jonnyb so far i'm just trying to get the upload input to show up, but the same issue will apply to the backend
[15:13] lphuberdeau nah, forget about that
[15:13] lphuberdeau it does not work and is not used
[15:14] jonnyb ok (thought so)
[15:14] lphuberdeau "owner" permissions are too specific to make it in the global permission checking rules
[15:16] jonnyb ok, i managed to get it working in the "old" perms code (get_perm_object etc) so i could just do an exception if type=user
[15:17] jonnyb just will be some more to clean up when we modernise filegals...
[15:17] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki Wiki side by side translation (tested with 10.2svn on doc.t.o - also broken) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=46325
[15:18] luciash btw, in 9.x I have realized the perms are all messed up regarding global ones vs category ones vs object ones - e.g. some are available only in the global scope - no way to assign to category or object or even worse sometimes even when they are available (mostly they are), they are not applied (clear cache and search rebuild tried of course)
[15:19] jonnyb luciash: i think there was a fair bit of "tidying up" of perm scopes in 10.x - maybe needs backporting (if fixed)?
[15:20] lphuberdeau backporting large changes like that in 9? you guys are mad
[15:24] luciash nope, I will not get that mad ;)
[15:25] luciash also noticed sometimes there are perm checks using $perm.tiki_p_search vs $tiki_p_search... very messy code
[15:26] luciash i dunno which one is the right one btw :)
[15:26] lphuberdeau I guess it depends on the case
[15:27] lphuberdeau some checks are global, some checks are local.. but generally, that's old code
[15:27] lphuberdeau I don't think that logic should go in templates
[15:33] luciash it is not in templates iirc
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[15:52] luciash jonnyb: chck priv msg ;)
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[16:48] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki Also, patch the upload permissions tests to accommodate this.
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[18:59] * jonnyb likes what lphuberdeau is doing today :)
[19:00] lphuberdeau started a while back on that plugin
[19:00] lphuberdeau plenty of stuff to untangle
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[19:11] jonnyb lphuberdeau: i know - saw that when moving it around a bit, but couldn't really see where to start untangling
[19:12] jonnyb i had a nightmare about the img plugin the other night... should tackle that one properly sometime  :O
[19:13] lphuberdeau well... that "metadata -> wiki syntax -> mangled wiki syntax -> metadata -> query" part, changed to "metadata -> query" felt natural ;)
[19:14] jonnyb looking forward to playing with it
[19:14] jonnyb will i have to change my custom form tpl pages? (and can i have it as a proper tpl file one day please?)
[19:15] jonnyb i have 2 live projects using it on trunk at the moment
[19:15] lphuberdeau I don't think templates will be affected
[19:15] jonnyb coolio, i'll find out soon (one of them's on a cron svn up every hour)
[19:15] lphuberdeau although I mostly tested with the template=table one, which is really just an alias
[19:16] jonnyb for the output you mean i guess - won't this have changed the "mangled" search form template thing?
[19:18] lphuberdeau well, there are two templates really
[19:18] lphuberdeau one for the form, one for the result
[19:18] lphuberdeau I did not do anything about the form
[19:18] lphuberdeau result handling moved around, but final behavior is untouched
[19:19] lphuberdeau except for that bit where it would do stuff for something on the generated wiki syntax
[19:19] jonnyb ok, will test soon (still on 45186)
[19:19] lphuberdeau seemed like "bug fixing", but that wiki syntax portion is gone, so nothing to fix
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[19:20] lphuberdeau if anything, it needs to be re-implemented in a different way, like understanding the form and building a proper query
[19:20] jonnyb sounds good
[19:20] lphuberdeau I think it all got a bit faster too!
[19:21] jonnyb i have an idea on how to "automatically" generate the form from the tracker definition (one day)
[19:21] jonnyb would make it easier for non-coders to use
[19:22] lphuberdeau I'm kind of heading that direction too
[19:23] lphuberdeau the reason I'm getting into all this is to handle saving search queries
[19:23] lphuberdeau trackers seem like a decent place
[19:24] jonnyb interesting
[19:24] lphuberdeau although I'm mostly thinking of having a tracker to store search queries rather than having customsearch populating the form based on a tracker definition, which is a valid use case, but way different
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[19:30] jonnyb btw, i managed to get the search form state saved on the url hash so the back button works using some extra custom js - seems to work and avoids saving in the session
[19:31] lphuberdeau good
[19:31] lphuberdeau planning on adding that to trunk?
[19:31] lphuberdeau I was looking at all that earlier and thinking about killing it all
[19:32] lphuberdeau then decided to focus on something else to begin with
[19:32] jonnyb yes, am hoping to
[19:32] lphuberdeau way too much stuff going on in the session
[19:32] jonnyb indeed
[19:32] lphuberdeau did the js clean-up a couple weeks ago help?
[19:33] jonnyb i think so, certainly didn't break anything
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[19:42] kstingel since styles/layout/layout.css is now a blank file ... would new themes still need it, or can they just use styles/lite/lite.css + styles/layout/design.css?
[19:45] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4399 - - user tracker gets input also on registration error  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4399
[19:48] jonnyb hi kstingel - is it?  :O
[19:49] jonnyb so it is - missed that one
[19:49] kstingel jonnyb: yup ... it was merged into design.css, old file was purposely left as empty css to overwrite existing on upgrade
[19:51] kstingel I'm going through and building a fresh mockup of Tiki's schema, then planning to update the templates+best+practices page (a lot of it dates back to T3.0)
[19:52] kstingel I'm also creating a "template" mockup ... so I can see where everything in tiki.tpl fits
[19:53] jonnyb coo, well done, thanks! yes, it's mostly quite out of date
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[19:54] kstingel since you seem to be knowledgable on 'broader Tiki' ... is all content (ignoring modules for now) placed into #tiki-center?
[19:55] jonnyb think there's a pile of nested divs there - #tiki-center is one of them i think
[19:56] kstingel ... I'm trying to figure out which portion of a standard page I need to read into the ePub page - I don't need all the header, col2, col3, footer stuff for printed pages
[19:59] kstingel there is a pile of nested Divs ... I'm also looking into whether or not some of them could be converted into <section>{block name=nest}blah{/block}</section> elements instead
[20:00] kstingel most of our current templates (and themes) are still optimised for HTML4 ... at least from what I've read thus far
[20:11] kstingel I may be off track here ... but since we have fivealive-lite.css ... rather than repeating all those settings in fivealive.css, wouldn't it make sense to import the lite version and expand on it?
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[20:27] luciash jonnyb: by "can i have it as proper tpl file" you meant tplwiki=My+TPL+Wiki+Page param ?
[20:27] jonnyb in custom search, yes
[20:27] luciash kstingel: new themes do not have to use it
[20:28] luciash jonnyb: ah, in trackerlist only, ok
[20:28] jonnyb i've found they can get quite complicated so would prefer a real file (syntax highlighting, source control etc)
[20:28] luciash jonnyb: not in list plugin yet ?
[20:28] jonnyb no, customsearch plugin
[20:29] jonnyb list plugins can use tpl files
[20:29] luciash i see
[20:29] jonnyb this is for the search form (input)
[20:31] luciash tplwiki param is like wiki param but parsing is done only on smarty leve like with tpl files
[20:31] luciash *level
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