[00:10] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [00:18] Caarrie|away joined #tikiwiki [00:37] astroo- joined #tikiwiki [00:44] arildb joined #tikiwiki [00:50] astroo- joined #tikiwiki [01:02] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: - doc.tiki.org feature list (which is populated from trackers) is not appearing all the time - http://dev.tiki.org/item4542 [01:05] astroo- joined #tikiwiki [01:16] fabricius hio [01:16] fabricius how is everybody? [01:19] astroo- hello well and you? [01:27] fabricius well enough, thx [02:19] lphuberdeau joined #tikiwiki [03:26] goj_killedByISP joined #tikiwiki [03:56] fabricius1 joined #tikiwiki [03:57] fabricius_tablet polom [04:27] redrum joined #tikiwiki [04:28] PenguinMan98 joined #tikiwiki [04:28] redrum Hi everyone. I'm ready to murder my computer after installing tiki wiki cms (on justhost.com). I can't login because "cookies aren't enabled" even though they are. Same problem on different browsers, although 10% of the time I sort of get a login with firefox for a page or two, and then a boot [04:29] PenguinMan98 hmmm. I'm a newbie too so I'm not sure [04:29] fabricius never heard about that problem ... and not being a newbie [04:29] redrum what surprises me is I cant find any solutions for this, although I did find an old bug or two, from *years* ago [04:30] redrum I cant be the only person experiencing this [04:30] fabricius how did you install on justhost.com and which Tiki version? [04:30] PenguinMan98 What web stack are you using? [04:33] PenguinMan98 That means which operating system / server / PHP / MySQL [04:34] redrum I think I found the problem....there is a ~ in my url [04:34] redrum https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=39641 [04:34] redrum I used simplescripts to install [04:35] redrum thanks for the help guys, I think I found what I was looking for [04:36] PenguinMan98 Well, glad we could help! [04:36] PenguinMan98 lol [04:37] fabricius lol [04:37] fabricius it happens frequently to me [04:38] fabricius I look for a solution for hours [04:38] PenguinMan98 I bet. I'm just getting started around here [04:38] fabricius then I think about how to ask the guys [04:38] fabricius come here, ask my question, begging for help .... [04:39] fabricius ... 2 minutes later, often before any answer, I just say "ahhhhhhhh" ... solved [04:39] fabricius the right question is often the last step to the right solution [04:40] * PenguinMan98 nods [04:40] PenguinMan98 I think the permission system defeated me again [04:40] fabricius oh what today? [04:41] PenguinMan98 I started setting up the forums [04:41] fabricius I try to install a webserver on my android right now [04:41] fabricius ah forums [04:41] PenguinMan98 But my forum administrator group doesn't get the option to administer them [04:42] PenguinMan98 here are my categories: http://screencast.com/t/MwZkIY1DgLW [04:44] PenguinMan98 So, I'll start with the public category [04:45] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/k6Glv7lblzkC [04:46] fabricius did you set the moderator group in forum admin? [04:47] PenguinMan98 erm... [04:48] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/XQOcAaoZjb [04:48] PenguinMan98 that? [04:50] astroo- joined #tikiwiki [04:51] PenguinMan98 wb astroo- [04:54] astroo- thanks [04:56] fabricius PenguinMan98: yupi [04:56] PenguinMan98 So I just put in the name of the administrative group? [04:56] fabricius I'd try [04:57] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/AqPQrqPCg [04:57] fabricius I always use the forums as admin so far ... sometimes I test as user ... not using communityy forums so much [04:57] * PenguinMan98 nods [04:58] fabricius Forum Admins should do it ... maybe they need additional rights [04:58] PenguinMan98 hmmm.... [05:01] PenguinMan98 Time for a little trial and error then [05:02] MrDice joined #tikiwiki [05:03] * PenguinMan98 nods to MrDice [05:03] fabricius yeah ... still on my aandroid anyway .. good luck and c ya in a few minutes ;-) [05:03] PenguinMan98 kk [05:07] MrDice hi [05:07] fabricius hi [05:07] MrDice finally, i made it. [05:09] astroo- hello [05:09] MrDice recently i started using tikiwiki to replace our mediawiki at work. [05:11] MrDice while migrating the data over from the mediawiki into the tikiwik i ran into some problems i cannot handle on my own. [05:11] fabricius oops [05:11] fabricius did you read the docs? [05:11] MrDice yeah [05:12] fabricius hmm [05:12] fabricius I never migrated [05:13] MrDice i created a xml dump out of the mediawiki which loads fine in any webbrowser. [05:13] MrDice but as soon as i import it into the tiki i throws the error "invalid mime type". [05:14] fabricius ahh mime type [05:14] MrDice i searched for it, but i couldn't find any helpful information. :( [05:15] fabricius there was something recently [05:15] fabricius hummm [05:15] fabricius maybe Frank ... refizul here in chat [05:15] fabricius I do not exactly remember what was the story with mime types [05:15] MrDice yeah, in some forum i read about it, but i couldn't link it to my problem. [05:16] fabricius but long discussion and I think an easy solution [05:16] fabricius there was some problem with docx [05:16] MrDice any hint would help. [05:17] fabricius finally there was a hook to tell tiki about more mime types [05:17] fabricius I do not remember ... I think Frank knows [05:18] fabricius maybe if you check the forum for mime type / docx threat and review who answered [05:18] MrDice cool. then i will wait for him. [05:18] fabricius or you write in the foirum and describe your problem [05:18] fabricius or in the devlist [05:18] PenguinMan98 double check the XML format too. Make sure that first tag has the right mime type set in it [05:18] fabricius or userlist [05:19] MrDice i registered, but i'm waiting for a approval since a couple of days. :( [05:19] fabricius ehh [05:19] fabricius cannot be [05:20] fabricius I approve .. whats your usename in tiki? [05:20] MrDice aah, that's might be the problem. i was already wondering, because i couldn't find any mime type at all (in the xml file). [05:20] MrDice Mr.Dice [05:20] fabricius username [05:20] fabricius ah [05:21] fabricius checking [05:21] MrDice thx [05:21] PenguinMan98 hmm... [05:21] PenguinMan98 [05:21] PenguinMan98 I guess that's all it requires [05:22] MrDice i don't have the data here (at home). so i have to check on monday. [05:22] fabricius you are German? [05:22] MrDice yes [05:22] fabricius sorry for the delay, I must have overseen you somehow [05:23] fabricius I am German aswell [05:23] MrDice no worries! [05:23] fabricius we have a German Language user group [05:23] MrDice yeah, i also registered on de.tiki.org, but it seemed like no one is active there?! [05:24] fabricius want to throw out a mail to all the new members ... and hope to get a Tiki Fest ... FROSCON will maybe the next spot to meet up [05:24] MrDice may i ask you a question regarding IRC? do i always have to put the '/msg #tikiwiki' in front? [05:24] fabricius de.tiki.org is not massively active, but still a good site ... much activity is been moving to the tiki.org ... kind of the heard of the community [05:25] fabricius nope [05:25] MrDice that's why i showed up here. ;-) [05:25] fabricius once you /join #tikiwiki you are in the room and then you do not need it any more [05:26] fabricius your command is only to msg from one to anothe room [05:26] fabricius another [05:26] MrDice hmh, i always tells me 'unknown command'!?! [05:26] fabricius hehehe lool [05:26] fabricius test [05:26] fabricius hehe [05:27] fabricius just leave it away [05:27] fabricius btw you should have received your validation mail [05:28] PenguinMan98 header("Content-Type: application/xml;charset=UTF-8") [05:28] PenguinMan98 Put that line in your exporter [05:28] MrDice that's what i did. maybe it is the client? [05:29] MrDice regarding irc. [05:29] * PenguinMan98 shrugs [05:29] PenguinMan98 ah [05:30] MrDice thank you for the line. i will try it on monday. [05:30] MrDice yeah. thank you for the approval! [05:31] PenguinMan98 no sweat [05:31] MrDice ah [05:32] MrDice now it made click [05:32] MrDice i thought i join by using '/join #tikiwiki'!?! [05:32] astroo- bye people [05:32] MrDice bye [05:32] astroo- bye [05:34] PenguinMan98 later astroo- [05:34] MrDice @fabricius where are you coming from? [05:34] astroo- later [05:36] PenguinMan98 I'm still not getting this to work [05:37] fabricius @MrDice Würzburg [05:38] PenguinMan98 I want this to be a public forum so I only want the public category checked right? http://screencast.com/t/rLRPy4Ifch9P [05:39] fabricius PenguinMan98: public forum - public category, yes [05:39] PenguinMan98 ok [05:39] PenguinMan98 so the public forum has the public category [05:39] fabricius PenguinMan98: in the public category set the category permissions for the actual groups ... which right for which group in this category [05:40] fabricius yes [05:40] fabricius this stack of categories you only use for permissions ... so kind of the permission type of the content ... [05:40] PenguinMan98 OK. here are my public category permissions [05:40] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/Zhp4rjUD [05:41] PenguinMan98 You can see my groups. The forum admin is the only one with permission to administrate the forum [05:41] PenguinMan98 Registered users can do everything else. Anons can only read [05:42] PenguinMan98 global permissions are blank [05:42] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/QTJV9F2kDTRr [05:43] fabricius seems to be right enough to work [05:44] PenguinMan98 That's what I thought [05:44] fabricius you are aware, that including groups to each other has effects? [05:44] PenguinMan98 what do you mean? [05:45] fabricius look at your screencast ... several groups get all their permissions by Registered [05:45] PenguinMan98 yes [05:45] PenguinMan98 Because they are all subsets of the registered permission set [05:46] fabricius if you demote Registered and take one permission, this permission is same time take from all the other groups [05:46] fabricius subsets, yes [05:47] PenguinMan98 So here's my user groups: http://screencast.com/t/tZ29Jv5qbp5W [05:47] fabricius it is not a bad way, but you need to know what you do ... rights and roles / user and permission management is a hard road to go ... needs some feeling ... I think, it is quite good that you start here and set some foundation [05:48] PenguinMan98 You can see that 'Generic User' has been set to have the registered permission set, the forum admin permission set and the wiki editor permission set [05:49] fabricius as far as I see, you did test with lots of permissions for Registered [05:49] fabricius I would avoid to give Registered permissions at all [05:49] PenguinMan98 I've decided registered have forum access but not wiki [05:49] fabricius maybe applying for a newsletter or see pages of a category Registered [05:50] fabricius ah [05:50] PenguinMan98 It requires the wiki editor group to get permission to edit the wiki [05:51] PenguinMan98 This is my groups heiarchy: http://screencast.com/t/IzLkznMo [05:51] PenguinMan98 you can see that wiki editors and canon players are not necessarily also guide staff [05:51] fabricius in case you did not give extra perms to Registered, but to an extra group, you could easily demote spammers or bad guys [05:51] PenguinMan98 But the forum admin and wiki admin are guide staff [05:52] PenguinMan98 I can create a group for spammers that has near no permission and just assign the spammers to it [05:52] fabricius ah you did think about it very carefully [05:52] PenguinMan98 ^^ [05:53] fabricius ah no, because you cannot get them out of registered [05:53] fabricius we had this problem in tiki.org [05:53] fabricius you'd need to ban them, if you do not want to delete (like for a temporary warning or so) [05:53] PenguinMan98 interesting [05:54] PenguinMan98 So I'd need to set up a basic editor group then and then set the program to grant that role by default when an account is created [05:54] fabricius I mean in the database you could take them out, but you want to admin the system in the cms and not in mysql [05:54] PenguinMan98 Otherwise I'd have to add that myself for every new user [05:54] PenguinMan98 which would suck [05:54] fabricius you got it [05:55] fabricius autoassign to a second level group and be able to demote [05:55] fabricius then Registered is just a container with no permissions in itself [05:55] PenguinMan98 I think my problem is that I've given this user both the forum admin permission and the wiki editor permission. I think the wiki editor permission is overriding their forum admin access [05:56] PenguinMan98 Let me try removing it [05:56] fabricius should not [05:56] fabricius but ok [05:56] PenguinMan98 shouldn't need it anyway. all guides can edit the wiki [05:58] fabricius ah one thing I might not have mentioned clearly enough yesterday: [05:59] fabricius there are certain few permissions, which need to be set in global permissions, for that certain category permissions can be in effect [05:59] PenguinMan98 oh? [05:59] fabricius I do not exactly remember ... only tiny few [05:59] fabricius some general altering permissions [06:01] fabricius so let me think about ... which problem is actually left now on your site (according the forums issue)? [06:01] fabricius the group "Forum Admins" cannot admin the forum? [06:05] PenguinMan98 Nobody can see the forums. At all [06:06] PenguinMan98 Except my admin [06:07] SkiNut joined #tikiwiki [06:08] PenguinMan98 I'm looking at tiki for smarties and there are a lot of forum settings even my admin account can't see [06:09] PenguinMan98 I'm wondering if this would be a good time to press 'reset to default' [06:10] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/vwJ66sRv2 [06:10] PenguinMan98 couldn't really hurt I suppose [06:11] * PenguinMan98 clicks it. The arrow turns around the other way. It now says 'restore current value' [06:11] PenguinMan98 whatever that means [06:11] PenguinMan98 the feature is now deactivated and the checkbox to activate it is greyed out [06:41] fabricius ouch - fell asleep [06:41] fabricius sorry, must fall to bed [06:42] PenguinMan98 lol, no worries [06:42] PenguinMan98 go sleep [06:42] PenguinMan98 Thanks again for the help [06:42] fabricius but you must have a silly simple thing which holds you from succeding [06:43] fabricius a tiny bit [06:43] fabricius normally that should work [06:43] PenguinMan98 I know. [06:43] PenguinMan98 stupid thing... [06:43] PenguinMan98 hehe [06:43] fabricius objectpermission? [06:44] fabricius you must have hidden it from yourself somehow [06:45] PenguinMan98 yeah [06:45] PenguinMan98 That's what I think [06:46] PenguinMan98 moar trial and error! [06:48] MrDice good luck! life is all about trial and error. ;-) [06:49] PenguinMan98 Yeah. I goofed and changed my object permissions first not knowing what I was doing [06:49] PenguinMan98 Then fabricius taught me all about the wonders of categories [06:49] PenguinMan98 But now I don't know how to reset my object permissions to what they started as [06:50] PenguinMan98 So I just cleared them all [07:05] PenguinMan98 Now it seems I cleared one too many [07:36] MrDice bye [07:36] PenguinMan98 nn! [07:43] luciash hi [07:44] luciash PenguinMan98: you already know when you want to assign permissions to only specific user you need to enable "Create group for every user", right ? [07:45] PenguinMan98 I didn't know that option was available, no. But I don't think that sounds like what I want [07:45] luciash ok, i thought the other day you asked about it or something [07:45] PenguinMan98 I got it to work by enabling the anon user to read the wiki/forum in the object permissions. At that point, all the other permissions start working [07:47] luciash you asked: "09:32 < PenguinMan98> anybody know really quick, If I can't assign permissions to individual users, can I assign users into defined categories? " [07:47] PenguinMan98 Ah yes. But I didn't know about 'groups' at that point [07:48] PenguinMan98 I was able to use groups to solve my issue, thanks [07:48] luciash yup yup [07:48] luciash fine [07:49] PenguinMan98 It's a really clever system [07:49] PenguinMan98 It just has a quirk or two [09:19] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [11:53] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [12:13] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [13:15] arildb joined #tikiwiki [13:28] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [14:34] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [15:37] arildb joined #tikiwiki [17:35] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [17:38] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46126 10branches/11.x/lib/servicelib.php [17:38] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Make getControllerMap alphabetical [17:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46127 10branches/11.x/lib/prefslib.php [17:40] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] validate element [17:49] arildb joined #tikiwiki [17:58] lindonb joined #tikiwiki [17:58] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [17:58] lindonb joined #tikiwiki [18:16] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [18:40] wood1 joined #tikiwiki [18:42] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46128 10branches/11.x/templates/admin/include_comments.tpl [18:42] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Add inline comment option (again) [18:42] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki First attempt was wiped after an SVN problem [18:47] wood1 hello everyone. I have a question regarding the random_image module image scaling. on my site www.darhhh.com, the images don't scale and overflow their box in the left and right columns. I'm sure i've just missed some setting to scale somewhere , but can't figure out where, or find anyone with google who's had the same issue. can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks [18:47] Tiki|bot Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! [18:47] Tiki|bot Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! [19:14] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46129 10branches/11.x/lib/structures/structlib.php [19:14] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Get rid of strict notices [19:35] arildb wood1: still there? [19:37] wood1_ joined #tikiwiki [19:38] wood_ arlldb yes [19:38] arildb which Tiki version are you running? [19:39] wood_ 10.2 [19:39] wood_ its been a problel for a while tho since 8.2. i'm just getting around to seeking help! [19:40] wood_ if i disappear again, its because tanzanian internet is rubbish [19:40] arildb There is no setting afaik. [19:40] arildb However, I may have a fix for you. [19:40] arildb Do you have access to the filesystem, and can edit files? [19:40] wood_ that would be great! i tried some css, but no luck [19:41] wood_ yes i can edit files [19:42] arildb Open the file: /styles/layout/design.css [19:42] arildb In that file, search for: #random_image [19:42] arildb Add the overflow rule [19:43] arildb So, it looks like... [19:43] arildb #random_image { [19:43] arildb text-align: center; [19:43] arildb overflow: hidden; [19:43] arildb margin: 1em auto; [19:43] arildb } [19:43] wood_ i don't have a line for #random_image. shall i add it? [19:44] arildb hm-m you are on a different version, than I checked...let me check 10 [19:45] MrDice joined #tikiwiki [19:45] wood_ ah, #random_css is defined in layout.css for me [19:45] arildb yes, you are right...not there [19:45] arildb ...ah..ok [19:46] wood_ ok, have added the overflow line. does this mean that the "margin: 1em auto" isn't actually working as shouldn't auto scale the image? [19:48] arildb margin...not sure [19:48] arildb any better? [19:48] wood_ nope :( [19:48] arildb try to clear the cache, too [19:51] wood_ oddley i can't see those sytles in firebug - just the text-allign center [19:52] arildb I am also watching you site + firebug, and the update is still not loading. [19:52] wood_ i did shift reload - is that enough to clear cache [19:53] arildb No, to clear theserver cache you must select the "command". See the admin menu [19:53] wood_ the margin style was there already, so its not just the recent edit thats not visible [19:54] arildb command: tiki-admin_system.php?do=all [19:56] wood_ done [19:57] arildb better? [19:58] arildb still overflowing, it seems [19:58] arildb and the rule is not yet included [19:58] wood_ yes. firefox gives the correct line number for #random~-image in layout.css [19:58] wood_ firebig [19:58] sipherdee joined #tikiwiki [20:00] arildb the rule is not loading. Are you sure you updated and saved layout.css? [20:02] wood_ yes, sure its saved, but the margin rule was already present and that isn't loaded either. [20:03] arildb strange [20:03] wood_ agreed [20:04] * wood_ is glad its not just him who's confused :) [20:05] arildb In firebug, you can manually type in the css rules. I typed in the "overflow" rule, and it solved your problem. [20:05] arildb So, I am pretty sure it will work, once you manage to get the rule loaded. [20:07] arildb I just added a fix for Tiki11. I am not sure if there will be anymore Tiki 10 releases.... [20:08] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03arildb r46130 10branches/11.x/styles/layout/design.css [20:08] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [FIX] Prevent image overflowing into the boundary [20:09] wood_ yes, i found that the overflow style stopeed the overflow. it doesn't scale the image tho :( so you still get "half people" etc [20:09] arildb Does the random image module have a size specification? [20:11] wood_ no it doesn't really have any params [20:11] arildb So, looks like the alternative is that you scale the images in the file gallery [20:14] wood_ so just crunch them to a different size as a permenant change? [20:16] arildb ..well, an alternative. You could make a preview copy maybe and leave the original? [20:16] arildb a bit of work though... [20:16] wood_ there must be a way to do it with css, surely? [20:18] wood_ not that i'm having much luck with firebug! [20:18] arildb I am not sure [20:20] arildb resizing may leave some pictures warped [20:21] wood_ do you think that because that module is used several times, there are several elements with id random_image? [20:21] MrDice_ joined #tikiwiki [20:21] wood_ if i load the stylesheete manually, margin is there, overflow isn't, but neither appear in firebug [20:22] arildb yes, I see the problem with the non-unique id. Not sure which consequences that has [20:23] MrDice__ joined #tikiwiki [20:25] wood_ ok, i have got the new stylesheet to load. overflow now hidden [20:25] wood_ thanks for that. i'll work on scaling the image and let you know if i find a fix [20:26] wood_ your help most appreciated [20:26] arildb :-) [20:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03changi67 r46131 10trunk/ 10(12 files in 12 dirs) [20:28] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki no changes - code styling [20:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki 03changi67 r46132 10(9 files in 6 dirs) [20:30] Tiki-KGB tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/11.x 46119 to 46130 [20:30] wood_ i've set #random_imag img{width: 160px} and that works with my columns, but its a general solution :( [20:32] arildb not sure I see the problem? [20:32] MrDice joined #tikiwiki [20:37] MrDice_ joined #tikiwiki [20:56] j0n3 joined #tikiwiki [20:57] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [21:15] arildb http://show.tiki.org/wysiwyg-html was last updated 21 May. 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