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luciasharildb: yes
arildb: there is such settings that displays the login screen
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arildbhi luciash
good... I could not find it
luciash: do you know where?
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luciasharildb: tiki-admin.php?page=general&cookietab=3 [00:10]
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luciash"On permission denied, display login module (for Anonymous)"
arildb: for your second question, just use the url param to go back to the tracker plugin page
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arildbThanks luciash, will try that
luciash: the automatic rediect to the login page doesn't work very will (Tiki 9). I get to the page, but it's not really the login screen
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looks good in trunk using Fivealive
not so good - but workable - in Tiki11, using Coelesce
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arildbIn coelesce for Tiki 11, the login box is off (don't think I moved/changed it) [00:34]
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PenguinMan98Question:
I created a menu and gave it three menu items.
Then I created a module in the 'topbar' and put the menu in it.
Now the menu appears as a vertical menu on the top left of the page on the same level as the login box
I want it to be a horizontal menu but I can't seem to edit it anymore. If I go into the modules page and go to 'topbar', it's empty.
The question is: Where did that menu go?
The next question is: How to make it horizontal
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panamauspanamaus rubs chin, nuts
uh sorry, wrong channel
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tikiwiki [FIX] admin users have full mail-in access
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luciashPenguinMan98: what Tiki version ?
PenguinMan98: in newer Tiki versions, there is the menu module - you have many options for it including specifying horizontal or vertical type menu...
PenguinMan98: in older versions you needed to create custom "user module" and put the code {menu id=XY css=y type=horiz} into the module textarea
PenguinMan98: where did your menu go ? no idea ... :)
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PenguinMan98luciash: version 10. Clicking horizontal doesn't change the preview at all. Clicking the checkbox for css actually reloads the page and doesn't do anything. And I figured I'd have to figure that out on my own [05:35]
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polom
yesterday I tried another tiki upgraded to Tiki11, and I was surprised with a few things that didn't work as expected (probably regressions)
and I enabled elFinder but could find no was to use it in file galleries....
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jonnybhi xavi - ew...
there's a new "view" drop down menu replacing the various browse, list, admin views
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xavihi jonnyb, well, maybe it's just more documentation is needed (I can help with that), and maybe I did hit 3 regressions [16:59]
jonnybtry "finder" mode on that one [16:59]
xaviok, there i go.... [16:59]
jonnybyes sorry, no docs :( [16:59]
xaviI?ll help with that as soon as I have some more time for that in the following weeks....
I think I'll try to reproduce first the issues in demo.t.o/11.x
and I'll try to get elFinder working there in file galleries with this view that you say
when I understand how it works to enable it, how to use it, etc. then I can help documenting it for other end users :-)
so Jonny, is a file gallery like this one in demo.t.o expected to be accessed through el finder?: http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=6
or is elFinder in 11x still only for files in trackers?
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jonnybyes, it's in 11.x [17:03]
xavithen, how can I use elFinder in this file gallery: http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=6 ? [17:04]
jonnybpick "finder" on the new view drop down menu near the nav buttons [17:04]
xaviok, therer I go.... [17:04]
jonnybi'll send you here: http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=6&view=finder
it'll...
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xaviAh, go it , finally!
uff, I would have never searched for it there....
anyway, at least, I?ll make some screenshot and add it to the documentation in doc.t.o 11x etc
aha, and we can define the default view per file gallery, great! (therefore we can pre-select elFinder in some file gallery of our site, etc)
nice
jonnyb, I've clicked at preview an image (png) through the right-click-menu on teh image (Vagrant Chilling), it's displayed in a popup black box with the image inside (nice!).... but I currecntly can't close that box
I've clicked at the red icon with the circled cross (upper left) but no effect (chromium here)
uff, I could after maximizing the image, then another icon at the bottom showed up, which allowed to close the popup box
mmm, duplicating images (there is an option there) do not duplicate them (unable to copy "File Galleries/dsfg/New Svg Image drawing".
ok, I'll file some bugs in the bug tracker (I'm not sure wether they are regressions or not, since I didn't use elFinder before)
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jonnybsorry, back now [17:19]
xavinp [17:19]
jonnybyes, closing the preview is a known (bad) bug [17:19]
xaviok, therefore I don't report this bug, I understand [17:19]
jonnybclick elsewhere on the elfinder pane or press space (must fix that one!)
duplicate should work... 1 mo
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xavithe option to duplicate files should be removed (or fixed)
ok
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jonnybcopy/paste files works though, doesn't it? [17:21]
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xavino idea, I haven't tried
(yet)
I'll try ...
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jonnybi've also definitely fixed the issue with the apert icon covering up the text... maybe demo's not up to date
1 mo more, brb
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xavicopying from my file manager in my computer and pasting into the file gallery didn't do anything (if that was expected to copy files over the file gallery)
mmm, resizing the preview of "Fisier Text" shows "NULL"
and regarding extensions, I reckon that users might prefer to have the option to see the file extensions...
and they are hidden, since a few versions or so, isn't it?
I noticed that there is an option to sort files "by kind", but since no extension is shown, I do not know what to expect from png, jpg, bmp, etc. , or doc, docx, odt files, etc.
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jonnybb [17:27]
xavito me, there should be an option to allow hiding (or not) the file extensions (I miss the extensionof files, and I know some users that will miss them also) [17:28]
jonnybdrag files from your (local) desktop and drop them on elfinder to upload - copy from local i don't think is part of html5 [17:28]
xaviah, ok, I didn't know. I'll try then (before you talked about "copy and paste", and that's what I tried... :-) I didn't know the details of html5)
wohoooo, draging files from local desktop onto file galr with elfinder works like a charm! nice"
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jonnybbut only a maximum of 20 sadly (seems to be a browser limitation) [17:30]
xaviok [17:30]
jonnybalso (so far) only files work, not folders [17:30]
xavifor more, probably webdav would be better
he he, reorganizing folders by drag and drop in elFinder also works, nice! :-)
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jonnybwhat shows in elfinder is the file "name", not "filename" which is still there if you need the extension etc, just not visible (yet) in elfinder
yes, mainly upload and move around is good
new galleries and renaming work ok too
and yesterday i added unzip :)
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xavifile names with extenion: ok, and how can I enable to display file name with extension?
I can't find it yet...
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jonnyball needs more polish for 12, but not bad for now i think [17:32]
xaviyes, looking pretty good right now, good job, jonnyb! [17:32]
jonnybswitch back to one of the old views [17:32]
xaviok, switched back, still no extensions shown [17:33]
jonnybyou can add that as another column, or do file properties (which is tricky as it's white text on white in that theme)
http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-upload_file.php?galleryId=6&fileId=1
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xavimmm, ok, so right now there is no way in elFinder to display filename (= with extension) instead of just name (without extension). Is that right?
I did select in filegal properties to display "filename only" instead of "name", and then, the filename with extension is shown in the former views, but not yet in elFinder view
I noticed a column on the right (in elFinder) with informtion about the file type (when the file gal is displayed in "detailed" mode, but still, it wook me a while to notice that the information was there somewhere, since the column was hidden on the right....
ok, anyway, good enough so far everything. ElFinder in file galleries looking pretty good already
my congratulations, jonnyb!
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jonnybfilename not used in elfinder yet, should obey the gallery pref
thanks :)
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xavijonnyb: shall I report the issue about duplicating files showing the error? [17:40]
jonnybthe get info popups appear in the wrong place
i'll just fix it - in the middle of something else just now (remind me if i forget ;) )
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xavihe he, I'll forget myself... so I'll drop a bug report (so that I remember - or marc or others - in the future) :-) [17:43]
jonnyb:P [17:43]
xaviin fact, that's why the bug tracker is there, as a reminder :-)
he he, and I did set demot.o/11x to use strasa.css, and popup boxes show up below the text area, so they are half hidden, at the most
reproduced here: http://demo.tiki.org/11x/display50
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xavi wishes luciash, chibaguy or ricks99 where here....
s/where/were
oups, jonnyb, http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=6&filegals_manager=fgal_picker_id shows no files in the file gallery (to me that elFinder should be shown but it's not)
I mean in the popup window to upload files, while that file gallery selected has elFinder view pre-selected in the dropdown box.... but no file is displayed to be selected, etc.
glups, and selecting in the drop down views something different than ElFinder, and refressing the browser window shows no file again with (again) elFinder pre-selected
admin toolbars icon is missing in the wysiwyg toolbars
as well as the icon to choose or upload files to file gals
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jonnybwe reduced the default set of tools for toolbars a while back, i think there were too many "image" ones [17:58]
xavithis is not image but "file/s" [17:58]
jonnybelfinder does work in the filegals_manager [17:59]
xavii.e. if you want to upload a pdf to be inserted there [17:59]
jonnybyes, the default set was deemed to be overloaded (a few webinars ago) so i took a load out
all those can be got from the plugin help popup
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xavioh well, iot does not right now in demo.t.o/1.x: http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=6&filegals_manager=fgal_picker_id
one icon for files is needed there, imho
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jonnybah, that good old "document.getElementById(maincol).baseURI" bug - it's fixed but demo's not up to date [18:00]
xaviwhich bug: elFinder in fagl_picker_id ?
or pop up boxes shown below central column text area?
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jonnybno, it was an arildb thing about the side columns
but it borks javascript, so elfinder fails
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xaviok [18:02]
jonnybjust finishing off something, will svn up demo 11 when i can...
jonnyb svn up's 11x on demo
tiki-admin_system.php?do=all seems to make quite a mess of itself - will try and clean it up...
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xavixavi reporting some bugs in the bug tracker, in the mean time [18:07]
jonnybelfinder works again on http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=6&filegals_manager=fgal_picker_id [18:08]
xavinice, jonnyb! :-)
and are you aware of the too-big size of pdf icon when files uploaded are pdf's? REproduced again here: http://demo.tiki.org/11x/HomePage (at the lest of "Cancoll")
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jonnybnow at least you can read 'Unable to copy "File Galleries/dsfg/Vagrant Chilling".' properly ;) [18:12]
xavi:-) [18:12]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: - duplicating files through elFinder fails with perm error message (for admin) - http://dev.tiki.org/item4567 [18:13]
jonnybif you try and show it as an image - seems fair enough to me [18:13]
xavihe he, but this is a regression: i didn't try to show it as an image. I did upload it as a file, through file upload (plugin file)
and it used to be shown in a smaller size
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jonnybbut it's using the image plain, no? [18:14]
xavigeoff sppotted this issue weeks ago (I've read it somewhere)
I didn't mean to use any image at all, I just indicated to show an icon for the pdf file
let me show an example in 9.x
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jonnybisn't the {files} plugin for files? [18:15]
xavisee this: http://ueb.vhir.org/tiki-index.php?page=2013-06+BBDD+per+a+la+Recerca+Biom%C3%A8dica&structure=UEB&page_ref_id=411#Material
I mean this: http://ueb.vhir.org/dl1007&thumbnail=y&x=16
32x32 pixels
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jonnybright yes, they got big! :) [18:16]
xaviyes :-) they are growing, since it's a few versions higher :-D [18:16]
jonnybactually i think it was me, i had to fix some stuff for svg files and moved a few things around in there... [18:16]
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jonnybi just got that thing where you get redirected to a tiki-download_file.php?blah=blah when you log in - seen it a couple of times before and Jyhem_ had reported it too... odd one!
xavi: how do you end up with that weird pdf in an img plugin syntax?
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xavijonnyb: using the tool in the toolbar that disappeared in 11x :-)
PluginFile, and select (in advanced) icon=y
Pluginfiles adds icon by default (for more usability)
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jonnybaha - but it looks like an img plugin - i think wysiwyg is getting muddled
(another thing to fix ;) )
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xavimmm, however, isn't this issue something non-realated to wysiwyg?
see https://dev.tiki.org/Regressions+in+11x#General_regressions (the last one)
it's not using wysiwyg at all, just displaying with an img plugin both urls, same structure, in 11.x and 10.x, and in 11.x it gets displayed way bigger
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jonnybyes, i know, but when i edited the page in it shows that plugin as an img one [18:36]
xaviah, ok [18:36]
jonnybah, right - i se what's happening - it shows the img plugin code generated by the file plugin - will remove from the "render" list (it's confusing) [18:37]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46320 10branches/11.x/lib/parser/parserlib.php
tikiwiki [FIX] wysiwyg: Add 'file' plugin to the list of excluded ones as it nests an {img} plugin inside itself and looks confusing
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Tiki|botRecent Bug: - edit wiki page with strasa.css shows popup boxes hidden below the text area - http://dev.tiki.org/item4568 [18:45]
Jyhem_jonnyb: Yes! I never figured out how to reproduce, though :-( On Tiki 9. Did you get it on a site which uses perspectives ? Mine did and I was wondering if that was related. [18:51]
jonnybhmm, i wasn't using perspectives but there are a couple...
i was using file galleries though just before (as anon) so was guessing that somehow the server referrer uri had got muddled up
have left a break point in the relevant place to i might be able to catch it in the act (or course it wouldn't do it again when i retried!)
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Jyhem_No, I nearly never use files galleries on that site. I don't manage the content. Then again this is an extremely rare occurence... [18:55]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: - Icon missing for Plugin File (or to upload a file) in default and upgraded toolbars - http://dev.tiki.org/item4569 [18:55]
Jyhem_Yes, what I said: I never figured out how to reproduce :-( [18:55]
jonnybwe'll catch it eventually - most elusive! [18:56]
xavibtw, jonny, in a site that I updraded recetnly from 10.x to 11.x, the two tools to upload files (through the toolbar) where removed
related to http://dev.tiki.org/item4569 , and to the nice feature to "choose or upload files" that Jyhem coded a few versions ago :-)
s/Jyhem/Jyhem_
removed from the toolbar, I mean
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Jyhem_Good luck with the hunt. I gotta go to the "neighbourg's meal", since I have this status ;) [18:59]
xavisee you jyhem_ [18:59]
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Hello guys
I'm newbie on tiki dev
and i need a litle help...
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xavihi samu89, welcome. just ask [19:25]
samu89ok]
i want add a feature to file list gallery
to show the files categorized
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samu89i discovered the file which maybe be responsable to organize it
but i don't understand how it works
In resume: i need only add one more "if, isset" or i need edit others files
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xavisamu89: did you try using first the plugins that allow you to display content based on categories, etc? [19:29]
samu89too
No, in true
The ask: can i show the tables how categories with plugins? Like: homeworks, tests, etc.
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xavisamu89: last sentence, can you try again rewording the sentence?
(I don't get it)
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samu89ok
I don't know if you understand the feature, so, i explain again
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xaviwhich feature? [19:36]
samu89In file galleries, i want show files separed by types, like: "pdf, doc, ppt".
The feature which i want make
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xavihe he, this is (partly) coming in Tiki11 with elFinder view in file galleries
let me make also a screenshot about it, and improve the documentation
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samu89please wait [19:39]
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samu89Xavi?
Xavi?
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xavihi samu89, sory, I'm documenting that file gallery improvments right now
so what else do you need to code that feature? (I don't know how to code it myself)
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samu89i send the screeshot to you
right?
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xavisamu89: say the question first
I haven't opened that file, until I know why should I open it
and best approach is to upload the file somewhere, and post the link here, so that anyone available can help, now or in the future, etc
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samu89ok [20:02]
xaviwould you open in your home computer a file sent by someone you don't know with an attachment? [20:02]
samu89ok [20:02]
xaviI mean, you have to understand the point of view of the people that will try to help you, but don't know you, etc.
so what is your next question, then?
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samu89Now, the screen: http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2013-06/1371233126.or.2591.png [20:06]
xaviok, thanks, and your question is? [20:07]
samu89i have problems to understand tiki code, because i can't found methods and functions [20:07]
xavihow to commit that? how to make that optional?.... [20:07]
samu89No
How add feature to code
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xavisee this: http://dev.tiki.org/Hello+world [20:07]
samu89if i need only add one more "if" [20:07]
xavisubscribe to the tikiwiki-devel list (see https://tiki.org/Lists ) and ask there
did you make your feature optional?
are you aware of the 3 dev rules in tiki? https://dev.tiki.org/3rules
maybe it's not just how to add on e more "if"...
so welcome to Tiki, again, take it easy, and thanks for your contributions! :-)
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samu89Ok, i start my work. =P
*i will
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xaviok, nice :-)
samu89: see this: https://doc.tiki.org/File+Gallery#File_Gallery_improvements_in_Tiki11
and specially this one: https://doc.tiki.org/display841
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samu89I thank you for all help =P [20:18]
xavi^jonnyb: I did my 2 cents with the documentation of your improvements with file gals and elFinder
samu89: you are welcome :-)
ok, my time to disconnect
well, last question, samu89: where are you from?
portugal? brazil?
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samu89brazil
and you?
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xavihe he , rodrigoprimo is also from BRazil (nice to see more devs from Brazil :-)
me from L'Hospitalet de Llobregat, Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain, Europe, ...
ok, time to disconnect for me
see you all
and nice to meet you samu89
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jonnybnice, thanks xavi :) [20:20]
xaviyou are welcome! :-)
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rodrigoprimosamu89: welcome to the tiki community :)
samu89: nice to see other devs from brazil joining
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samu89nice to meet you, xavi
hello rodrigoprimo, i feel so too
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rodrigoprimosamu89: let me know if you need any help [20:25]
samu89(até podemos conversar em português, hehe)
well, i want show files by categorie, like file types
like this: http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2013-06/1371233126.or.2591.png
and add option to show categorized or linear view
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46322 10branches/11.x/lib/images/abstract.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Images: Don't use svg icons in preference to the png ones as used before (too big! thanks Xavi)
tikiwiki 03jonnybradley r46323 10branches/11.x/tiki-admin_system.php
tikiwiki [FIX] caching: Redirect to the clear cache page after clearing all caches. Seems my improvements to js minify recently don't now agree with the page being rebuild without cache after tiki-setup has already been run.
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tikiwiki 03ohertel r46324 10trunk/templates/tiki-accounting_account_form.tpl
tikiwiki [fix] missing " in div
tikiwiki 03ohertel r46325 10trunk/templates/tiki-accounting_account_view.tpl
tikiwiki [fix] missing " in div
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tikiwiki 03ohertel r46326 03trunk/doc/devtools/provide_tarballs.sh
tikiwiki [dev] developer script for providing tarballs of tiki branch snapshots
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03ohertel r46327 10trunk/doc/devtools/provide_tarballs.sh
tikiwiki [dev] unify tarball scripts for trunk and <number>.x branches into one
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03ohertel r46328 10trunk/doc/devtools/provide_tarballs.sh
tikiwiki [dev] fix in BRANCH name, should be BRANCH-<number>-x
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