#tikiwiki 2013-06-25,Tue

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fabricius	polom PenguinMan98: an interesting idea PenguinMan98: and interesting problem	[00:41]
astroo-	hello	[00:43]
PenguinMan98	I'm glad you agree It seems like enabling that feature would automatically put that link somewhere sup astroo	[00:55]
astroo-	hello yes and you?	[01:00]
PenguinMan98	fantastic.	[01:05]
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fabricius	PenguinMan98: maybe some different smarty necessary?	[01:22]
PenguinMan98	You tell me. I haven't really cracked open any of Tiki's code except for the tiki-login.php can you even use smarty in the url like that?	[01:22]
fabricius	I do not think so .. let me think about that for some moments	[01:24]
PenguinMan98	yeah, http://screencast.com/t/gBaP0WpOtFy didn't work	[01:24]
luciash	PenguinMan98: so you have the arg variables enabled ?	[01:28]
PenguinMan98	should be I turned em on today	[01:29]
luciash	PenguinMan98: and also Admin > General > Navigation > Allow HTML in menu option names and URLs ?	[01:30]
PenguinMan98	hmm, let me check on that erm...	[01:30]
luciash	PenguinMan98: and yes, you can REALLY allow THAT, unless you give admin permissions to edit the menu to someone you do not trust	[01:32]
PenguinMan98	http://screencast.com/t/mlttAfik ok I'll REALLY allow that	[01:32]
luciash	luciash knew that question will come next	[01:33]
PenguinMan98	heh	[01:33]
luciash	now lets see if the {{user}} is stil being escaped *still i recommend to use only User:{{user}} if you have SEFURLs enabled site without wiki link syntax	[01:33]
PenguinMan98	still escaped	[01:36]
luciash	PenguinMan98: btw, if it is just single item menu it really makes no sense to put it as a menu but you could do that directly in custom module using smarty syntax as i read more carefully now what you did	[01:36]
PenguinMan98	thanks. I'll try that	[01:37]
luciash	PenguinMan98: so you can scratch that idea, remove that menu and just put this into your custom module: <a href="User:{$user}">My Page</a>	[01:38]
fabricius	ah yes .. that	[01:39]
PenguinMan98	kk. In trying to delete that menu, I deleted my main left hand menu PenguinMan98 headdesks	[01:39]
fabricius	ouch	[01:40]
PenguinMan98	dammit	[01:40]
luciash	oh man :) hope you have some recent backup	[01:40]
PenguinMan98	not of the database	[01:41]
fabricius	luciash PenguinMan98 .. I recon he means the main application menu	[01:41]
PenguinMan98	anyone know the id of the main application menu?	[01:42]
luciash	nope, i think he means his custom left hand menu ;)	[01:42]
PenguinMan98	default	[01:42]
fabricius	and I recon, he just deleted the module	[01:42]
PenguinMan98	I did both	[01:42]
fabricius	arrrghhh	[01:42]
luciash	ah, you just unassigned the module of app menu ? easy to put it back then	[01:42]
fabricius	deleted both???	[01:42]
PenguinMan98	kk	[01:42]
luciash	main menu is 42 default application menu	[01:43]
fabricius	module: "menu" -> param menuId=42	[01:43]
PenguinMan98	I deleted both modules. The menus are still there 42 gooood number	[01:43]
fabricius	yesss	[01:43]
luciash	yep, just do not delete the menus please ;)	[01:43]
fabricius	especiaslly not this one	[01:43]
luciash	modules can be easily assigned back you lost just some params if you had them there	[01:43]
PenguinMan98	yay, my menu is back	[01:43]
fabricius	is it possible to delete 42? I do not think so	[01:44]
luciash	(it is not possible to delete app menu actually) fabricius: not anymore, right	[01:44]
PenguinMan98	I eventually intend to hide it after I get my own navigation working	[01:44]
luciash	in some older versions it was possible	[01:44]
PenguinMan98	I hadn't modified it so I'm good	[01:45]
luciash	PenguinMan98: btw, did you know you can design your own menu in a wiki page and use that wiki page as your menu using the page menu module ? PenguinMan98: it is not even possible to modify it ;) PenguinMan98: menu 42	[01:45]
PenguinMan98	I know. I wanted to but it told me I needed to clone it first I decided to put that off for later smart features @luciash pagemenu sounds awesome! I'll look into that	[01:46]
luciash	so hopefully now you are back on track :)	[01:47]
PenguinMan98	yes thanks	[01:47]
luciash	see the docs, use force bbl :)	[01:48]
PenguinMan98	link doesn't work PenguinMan98 chuckles	[01:52]
luciash	wiki syntax must be off if you use HTML and smarty syntax in custom module	[01:53]
PenguinMan98	((User:{$user})) that worked for the link after I turned the wiki parsing on for the module thanks for the tip So if I wanted to do a custom php, I just do that in a plugin? And then use that plugin in a custom module What if I wanted to access the db in a plugin? Is there already hookups for that? Or do I need to add a connection string to the plugin? Maybe I'll take a few modules apart and see what's inside I gotta go See you guys later on thanks again!	[01:58]
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kstingel	joined #tikiwiki polom I'm trying to set up some trackers, but initial data is in a seperate SQL DB ...	[02:46]
astroo-	hello	[02:48]
kstingel	when adding the individual internal trackers, is "item_id" consecutive accross all trackers, or can each tracker commence numbering from "1"?	[02:49]
fabricius	hi kstingel afaik consecutive	[02:54]
kstingel	thanks fabricius, np ... I can add the consec ids to original DB once I've set data	[02:55]
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luciash	kstingel: i think you can choose if it should be auto-assigned by item id or start at defined value	[03:40]
kstingel	luciash: I vaguely recall an option to keep original item IDs, but wasn't sure how that worked will tinker a bit once I finish compiling src data and figure out best option ... may be easier to just use customised SQL queries to interact with data	[03:41]
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	ok. So I ran into an issue today I had a module that showed the most visited forum posts It let my registered users see guide-only material lucky this wasn't a huge problem this time. maybe I configured the module wrong? If I don't set the category on the module, it should honor the category of the material it's asking for right? On a totally unrelated note, does tikiwiki support content tagging? I realize I could mimic this with categories but it'd be clunky	[05:19]
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PenguinMan98	woot I had a module that showed the most visited forum posts It let my registered users see material that I'd restricted with a permissions category maybe I configured the module wrong? If I don't set the category on the module, it should honor the category of the material it's asking for right? I know the most recent forum posts module works this way	[06:48]
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chibaguy	hi PenguinMan98 -	[07:13]
PenguinMan98	sup chibaguy	[07:14]
chibaguy	Sorry I can't help much on that. ;-) The module should respect the forum perms, I'd expect. What Tiki version are you using?	[07:14]
	If it's a version that's actively being worked on (9LTS or 11), then you could make a bug report at dev.tiki.org.	[07:21]
PenguinMan98	10 right in between Here's a question, Say I wanted a module for the most recent forum threads posted in. Do you think I should go ahead and create my own in the tikilib.php? Or is it wiser to stay out of the core and add it perhaps as a plugin?	[07:22]
chibaguy	Hmm, good question. Maybe you could post that on the dev mailing list. (I'm a font of information here. ;-) )	[07:25]
PenguinMan98	fount*	[07:25]
chibaguy	heh	[07:28]
PenguinMan98	hehe And say I did add it as a module, you all would desire that I push said module to the repo? I know I have such little experience in the code base compared to you all but it seems to me from what I've seen so far that the forums are not quite added in the same manner as the other features	[07:28]
	I just want to make sure my changes don't blow things up for future upgrades	[07:38]
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chibaguy	PenguinMan98, normally new features etc are added in svn trunk for testing and then ported to the branch that'll be the next release (so trunk and then tiki 11). It'd be best to ask on the dev list about adding the module, I'd say. And thanks for taking the initiative on that. (if you want to do it)	[07:59]
PenguinMan98	PenguinMan98 shrugs As long as I'm doing the coding, I may as well share	[07:59]
chibaguy	Yes, that'd be nice.	[08:00]
PenguinMan98	As it says on the doc.tiki, no two sites have the same needs and indeed it seems that the one or two things I really want are two it just doesn't do out of the box	[08:00]
chibaguy	About the module, if an existing module could be given another parameter to show what you want it to show, that'd be a good route to go, rather than making a new module from scratch.	[08:02]
PenguinMan98	I can't believe there is a module for most viewed forum topics and one for most recent forum posts, but not one for most recent forum topics posted in.	[08:03]
chibaguy	I don't know about the code, though, and what'd be the best way. Yeah, that seems like an obvious thing to be able to show.	[08:03]
PenguinMan98	And the one for most viewed forum topics seems to have issues displaying the wrong content. That or my site was configured wrong.	[08:03]
chibaguy	hmm, well, some things haven't seen much love for a while, so could be acting strange.	[08:04]
PenguinMan98	I created a category that restricts viewing a certain forum topic. However I don't think the forum post in that forum was tagged with the same category the forum topic itself was I'm not sure if this could be the issue. I assumed if you post in a restricted forum, then it inherits that restriction	[08:05]
chibaguy	That'd be logical.	[08:09]
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PenguinMan98	I find that logic very much 'usually' applies around here hehe	[08:19]
chibaguy	:-)	[08:28]
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Emenems	Allo allo. Is there someone here that could give me information about cartograf ? I don't understand how to create a map. Is it linked to trackers ?	[09:22]
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	Jyhem_, salut :)	[09:39]
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Jyhem_	Emenems: not much time (on the ove). What is it you want to do? Reproduce the cartograf website or just understand how maps are used? s/on the ove/on the move/	[10:10]
Emenems	Jyhem_, both :) firt, understand the architecture behind cartograpf, and how to create a map	[10:11]
Jyhem_	I think that's the wrong way around :-) Cartograf is so much more complicated and customized than "how to create a map"	[10:15]
Emenems	ok, any suggestion to better understand the cartograf project ?	[10:17]
Jyhem_	To create a map, you put the MAPS plugin in a page. Then the plugin will magically look for geotagged links in the middle column of the page So you need to put some there with some other plugin which lists geotagged objects (like articles) or like the user in the bottom of the page ("last mofied by user"). Then you get more control with the ''scope'' param so it only shows what you want	[10:18]
Emenems	Jyhem_, if i'm not wrong, trackers are also geotagged items, aren't they ?	[10:21]
Jyhem_	they can when you give them a geolocate field, yes	[10:22]
Emenems	ok ok ... merci :) i'll take a look deeper in the documentation and i'll try	[10:24]
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Jyhem_	Emenems: you might experiment on demo.tiki.org and come back with concrete questions :-)	[10:50]
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PenguinMan98	So, I finally found the docs that tell me the correct way to add modules I started work on my first custom module. I got it all set up the way I thought it should have been but it seems the template file in templates/modules is loading without calling the php function file in (modules/) so it's trying to load without data unfortunately I won't have access to those files again until tonight	[18:47]
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PenguinMan98	Hey guys, back on the question of custom user pages...	[19:30]
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PenguinMan98	It does something really weird when you try to edit it http://screencast.com/t/LnYnoSYghegr Fixed it by changing ((User:{$user}\|{$user})) to [/tiki-editpage.php?page=User:{$user}\|{$user}'s page]	[19:31]
luciash	PenguinMan98: why you did not use the <a href="User:{$user}">User's page</a> ? saves some parsing time	[19:39]
PenguinMan98	because it didn't work	[19:39]
luciash	it must work	[19:40]
PenguinMan98	I musta done something wrong yesterday then cuz it works today	[19:40]
luciash	it should just tell you the page does not exist if it does not and ask if you want to create it in worst case yep might be	[19:41]
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PenguinMan98	Nope, still doesn't work	[19:42]
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PenguinMan98	It makes a pretty looking link but when you click on it, nothing happens	[19:43]
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luciash	PenguinMan98: nothing ?	[19:50]
PenguinMan98	nothing	[19:50]
luciash	ah, i see, it is because of the : it thinks User: is a protocol simmilar to http: you need to put ./ in front of it PenguinMan98: why you did not use the <a href="./User:{$user}">User's page</a> ? like thsi *this PenguinMan98: <a href="./User:{$user}">User's page</a> s/it/browser/	[19:51]
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luciash	in "it thinks" ;)	[19:52]
PenguinMan98	... Now I don't have permission to access it? PenguinMan98 headdesks over the silliness of a single link	[19:53]
luciash	did you put "./" or "/" ? the dot is mandatory	[19:53]
PenguinMan98	[/tiki-index.php?page=User:{$user}\|{$user}'s page] Works. If you click on it and the page isn't there, it asks you to create it I copied your example exactly	[19:54]
luciash	ok, maybe you do not have .htaccess enabled site for SEFURLs that is why you need to put the tiki-index.php?... there	[19:55]
PenguinMan98	PenguinMan98 shrugs. Alls I know is: this works It's the syntax used to link to forums / etc	[19:56]
arildb	PenguinMan98: You can check if SEFURL is activated in the admin panel: tiki-admin.php?page=sefurl	[19:58]
PenguinMan98	what is a SEFURL?	[19:58]
arildb	Search Engine Frriendly URLs, which enables you to use the url: "MyPage"m, instead of "tiki-index.php?page=MyPage"	[19:59]
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PenguinMan98	brilliant!	[19:59]
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PenguinMan98	yo	[20:01]
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luciash	hey Bsfez	[20:09]
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PenguinMan98	even the link I'm using fails if the username has a space in it Who even wrote this thing? How were they intending the feature be accessed?	[20:41]
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PenguinMan98	gonna try this: [/tiki-index.php?page=User:{$user\|replace:' ':''}\|{$user}'s page]	[20:46]
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PenguinMan98	aaaaand that makes the module explode	[20:48]
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rinnan	Howdy	[22:35]
astroo-	hello	[22:37]
rinnan	Does anyone know if there is a way to script renaming of users? We are moving to a new domain and I need to rename most users from <user>@old_domain to <user>@new_domain. I am able to do this manually using the Admin - Users - Adit Account Settings menu but I would love to be able to automate this procedure to enable a swift (and hopefully error free) migration. Any pointers would be most appreciated :) We're using LDAP for user authentication, hence the need to rename to keep user history	[22:38]
PenguinMan98	Well..I'm pretty new around here but I'll take a stab You could create a custom module to do this. load it anywhere and turn off all the display elements so it just quietly runs. $query = "somequery to rename stuff" $tikilib->query($query) when you don't need it anymore, you just remove the module	[22:42]
rinnan	PenguinMan98: Thanks, I'll look into that approach. Just need to figure out the query itself. I'll dive into the code once I get som time on my hands	[22:47]
arildb	rinnan: beware of the many references by name (username in this case).	[22:48]
PenguinMan98	SHould be the email field in the users_users table right?	[22:48]
rinnan	arildb: I know, thats why I'm reluctant to take any chances	[22:48]
arildb	rinnan: see userslib.php function change_login. Maybe it does what you want (for 1 user)	[22:49]
rinnan	arilldb: It seemed to do the job properly when executed via that adminmenu havent gotten around to examining exactly what that menu executes yet	[22:50]
arildb	rinnan: You could create your own PHP script to load all affected users and calling change_login	[22:51]
PenguinMan98	and put it in a custom module?	[22:52]
arildb	a regular PHP script should do place the script in the tiki root, and include require_once ('tiki-setup.php'); at the top. Then you should have access to tiki functionality	[22:52]
PenguinMan98	global $tikilib;	[22:54]
arildb	yes, you may have to create instances of diffent libs use TikiLib::lib('tiki'); instead of global $tikilib	[22:55]
rinnan	excellent suggestion will try it	[22:57]
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