refizul: running setup.sh 4x will fix the problems
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fabricius: hi refizul
running 4x ?
refizul: fabricius: hiho
fabricius: :-D
refizul: yes, I had to run 4x 'sh setup.sh' to get rid of errors
fabricius: how r you?
refizul: we need another approach for that, this is confusing
fabricius: hmmm
running 1x?
lol
refizul: I'm in kind of a hurry, supposed to had been running a Tiki 11 for weeks now
fabricius: ok, am on work anyway
sometime I will fall from chair to bed, but if you want and both still awaik, we can chat lateron
PenguinMan98: kk
refizul: I'm awake until this Tiki runs
fabricius: PenguinMan98: sorry, I did not allocate your answer to me and have then been in a phone conference ... no, I do not see a necessary rewriting, just joking .. do you see a necessarity of rwriting? what you want(ed) to approach?
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fabricius: was about an hour ago
refizul: MyISAM or InnoDB?
PenguinMan98: ok. I was thinking about a modification. Not a rewrite. I bet it wouldn't be too bad.
fabricius: tell more pls
refizul: if any you need fuulltextsearch for a forum, then take MylSAM
PenguinMan98: A category that isn't 'created' it is 'enabled' in the settings for the category system.
fabricius: what you mean? whats the difference?
refizul: fabricius: why that?
fabricius: because refizul InnoB cannot fulltextsearch
PenguinMan98: The 'personal' category is a category you can designate on a created object. When set, it uses the permissions created for it in the group permission system.
fabricius: InnoDB
refizul: anyway, I didn't prepare the machine for InnoDB
fabricius: PenguinMan98: still not getting it ... category applying to object = as is?
or better object to category!?
or to eachother
PenguinMan98: For example, I could give read and write permission globally but set the personal category permissions to restrict to read only for everyone. Then the system internally will still allow the global permission when the creator edits the object but everyone else gets read-only
If the object is set to the 'personal' category
refizul: there is a colon missing in the installer, I just noticed
fabricius: that is possible already, but I think you want kind of a default ... using the personal category as template for all users ... every user uses the same category, but it always applies to the individual owner of the object?
PenguinMan98: good eye
Yes, I think you get it
fabricius: that seems to be a good idea
guys, I have a question
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fabricius: arrgl
PenguinMan98: lol
fabricius: thx for the hint boot
bot
I realised, that in Drupal there is made up some kind of site areas with some rewrite rule
PenguinMan98: Drupal? Why are you messing around with that?
refizul: fab has got a question - let's trigger the bot
fabricius: like domain.com/content/initialcontent ... domain.com/anotherfolder/anotherinitialcontent
I refer to the thing in the middle
PenguinMan98: Tiki does something similar when you ask for something in the /images folder and it routs it to the;'img folder
refizul: what does trigger the bot? have a question ?
PenguinMan98: I have a question
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fabricius: looks like a folder, but I am sure it is a rewrite rule
hehe LoooooL
PenguinMan98: Rez wanted to know what triggered the bot
So I triggered it
fabricius: the word question
PenguinMan98: nope
refizul: the bot knows me too well, I do not have questions ;-)
fabricius: or better have a question?
PenguinMan98: You can say question all you want
fabricius: I question
I have question
I have a question
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PenguinMan98: have a question
fabricius: have a question
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PenguinMan98: looool
fabricius: that is it
so I continue
PenguinMan98: do YOU have a question?
fabricius: YES!!!
PenguinMan98: trigger fail
fabricius: I have a question thought
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fabricius: arrrgl
PenguinMan98: pfffffft!
fabricius: don't laugh
I am thinking about the following:
an extra table in the database
PenguinMan98: already not a fan
fabricius: arrg
why?
PenguinMan98: lol, jk
fabricius: kk
PenguinMan98: The database is huge
fabricius: wait for the idea pls
PenguinMan98: kk
fabricius: so an extra table in the database for the "foldername"
which represents aswell a preference as a rewrite rule
preference: allocate to a perspective
PenguinMan98: but something we could do with a clean and pretty GUI instead of a manual edit
fabricius: rewrite rule: put the foldername in the middle between domain and content
yes!
PenguinMan98: magento has this
it's annoying as hell
can't find squat you're looking for
fabricius: my idea is an early request for the "folder" and switch to the perspective instead of requesting all categories late and then switch the perspective
=> with perspectives and categories we build "Areas" or "Siteareas" (first name is featurename)
PenguinMan98: I have no idea what you just said. I think I'd need more education on Tiki's internal workings
fabricius: my idea is not to do it with categories
hmm
Areas:
kind of more than one different websites in one Tiki
PenguinMan98: for that effort why not multi tiki?
or do you mean on the same domain
fabricius: having all content and users in one database
same domain or different domain would be optional and already existing then
PenguinMan98: isn't that how multi tiki works?
fabricius: multitiki is afaik different databases but one shared codebase
Trim would be different databases and different codebase but shared configuration
if I am right ... offhand
I am still not really confident, how Areas work right now
categories are used for so many different things, and I believe they are not requested early (enough) ... a developer would have to explain me in detail .. not that I am wrong at all
PenguinMan98: Can't you just install tiki in the target location and change the db/local.php file to point to the remote mysql database?
fabricius: I do not want to load too much elements before the system realises to need to switch the perspective and then have to load again
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fabricius: hmmm you still do not get me ...I try a simple example
a national organisation with local branches
each branch should get it's own website, but users and parts of the content should be shared
but local content should not be visible on the site / areas of the other branches
refizul: 'nuff 4 today
fabricius: oh refizul early out today?
refizul: Tiki is running, dovecot has got to wait until tomorrow
PenguinMan98: For something like that, you'd almost need to segment the database into a shared portion and a non-shared portion
refizul: mot yet out, but this is a hard installation, enough of it
fabricius: at the moment we force to change the perspective dependant on a certain set of categories
refizul: gn8
refizul: fabricius: you're away?
fabricius: nope
here
thought you opt out now
refizul: no, I opt out of work
fabricius: ah cool
welcome back then
refizul: writing the documentation step by step for the special installation is hard
you know, it's for this stupid president...
check tiki.snowden.nsa.gov
fabricius: PenguinMan98: I even think about if it would be possible and make sense to connect that with the namespaces => domain.com/workgroupA/home instead of domain.com/workgroupA:_:home
maybe at all only a rewriterule for *:_: to */
and backwards /*/ to /*:_:
*:_: is in fact part of a wikipagename
"workgroupA:_:home" is the wikipagename of "home" in the namespace "workgrouA" ... the way how to get same pagenames in one database for multiple perspectives/workspaces
that means that the namespace identifyer "workgroupA:_:" (divider = :_: ) is part of the wikipagename and is added automatically to the pagename, once you create a page from inside the namespace
PenguinMan98: Sooo over my head
fabricius: sorry
PenguinMan98: No worries
<3
I gotta bbl
fabricius: anyway, talking about it gave myself some idea
PenguinMan98: sweet
fabricius: bubu PenguinMan98
PenguinMan98: glad I can at least be a sounding board
laters!
fabricius: soundingboard ... cool word
so who is still there?
-: refizul is still here
refizul: less than two months to FrOSCon
fabricius: I must install a Tiki now and divide a Tki in two
oh yes
I will be in Bonn between 6th and 10th Aug
refizul: this is too early ;-)
fabricius: but we can meet for preparations
I must leave the room for short .. bbiam
;-)
still afk
-: fabricius pops in and out, cause he is forgetting things in the kitchen frequently
refizul: very good nobody here knows about the German meaning of 'kitchen' *g*
most people in Germany do not (!) want to be in 'the kitchen'
fabricius: no, like Peter, Paul and Mary who have been walking through the prairy and then made a bank robbery .. you remember?
refizul: I remember B&C - Bonnie and Clyde
fabricius: I am so glad .. ich bin so glatt
English for runaways .. Englisch für Fortgeschrittene
naja, Otta can better .. just a bit flat jokes :-D
refizul: Sometimes I'm invited to a wedding - but I was never invited to a divorce. Why is that?
similar with software...
fabricius: Because 1st then the both have usually no money left to provide food and drinks, 2nd it would be hard to go to one party at two locations the same time
refizul: people write a lot of documentation why software ist good and why and how to use it
fabricius: yes
refizul: but nobody writes to a mailing list why he stops using a special software, and all the reasons
however, we should add more crypto ;-)
I've got a smartcard and need still a reader, and/but my idea is to use it as a token to login
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refizul: there is an easy way to go around with that: GnuPG
the smartcard ist made for GPG and Keys, and we just need something as GPG-auth
fabricius: hm
that woul be great
and maybe sendingencrypted system mails?
refizul: this is all related
fabricius: recently I thought about a totally encrypted Tiki - database and server
refizul: big problem for users is key management and handling - it has to be easy
fabricius: decrypt in the browser
refizul: a system with a smartcard token may help
fabricius: look here: http://bin.wikiforyou.eu/
ZeroBin encrypted pastebin
refizul: client enc/dec in browser is another issue, yes -- probably one of the upcoming big ones after Snowden
fabricius: already before Snowden, but now it should be easier to convince people why
refizul: we can go a step further, but this is still an open problem: homomorphic encryption
fabricius: we all knew .. at least who used the head for more than preventing rain fall into the throat
refizul: this means using the cloud and storing encrypted data there, and (!) compute on encrypted data
fabricius: decentralised personal clouds
http://owncloud.org/
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fabricius: keep your data on your own server
encrypted, cause of IPv6
refizul: this will not work on huge scales
the holy grail is homomorphic encryption
fabricius: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/algorithm-solves-homomorphic-encryption-problem-0610.html
refizul: "solves a major problem"
nice
fabricius: I am sure, that does not taste good to certain people
refizul: that doesn't matter regarding focussed attacks
fabricius: sure?
refizul: yes - you can attack any target, but not each. actually without encryption NSA attacks each one
fabricius: at least it will be harder for them - and they have to go deeper braking the law and human rights ... making there attitude and goals at least more obvious
refizul: no - they'll have to focus on valuable targets
fabricius: aswell
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refizul: they will not panic, but the mass of people will have more protection
fabricius: the thing is easy: once we have cameras and drones everywhere aqnd we have to count that only being suspected destroyes your life, they will say "stay at home if you do not want to be recorded - I DO want to go out - and I DO NOT be under suspicion only because of walking in public space in the night or by basic existance
refizul: stay at home, and be recorded
fabricius: I hate that .. nearly full control
yes everywhere
refizul: even this IRC is recorded
online banking - recorded
online pizza orders - recorded
email to Ed Snowden - cruise missile launched... ;-)
fabricius: recently I left my phone at home when I had an appointment at the job consultant - just because of the uncomfortable knowledge, that "they" in theory COULD track my way ... why somebody should have the right to track me, just because he CAN
I would email him and thank him for his braveness, if I had his email adress
refizul: it's not a question of right anymore
fabricius: not anymore - you are right
damned
refizul: it's a question of power
fabricius: democracy changed it's meaning
refizul: we've got two allies
economy and technology
fabricius: economy to me seems like a twoface
I have to start the installation now
will be hopping in and out
refizul: a shooting here in town... and a friend is close by...
will be out of town for a while... ;-)
fabricius: yeah
shooting is bad
I recently have seen a report and the (us) moderator said, that in LA police shoots at about 90 persons per month (a figure like that) ... and over there in Germany 90 per year (hole country compared with one city!)
90 person or 90 rounds? don't know exactly
ah 2011 85 bullets the whole year the whole police in Germany
ah the story was in one case 90 bullets on one person in the US
so Germany one year whole police than US bullets against one person in one case
refizul: yeah - that was NY
they behave like Texas Wild West cowboys
fabricius: there are numbers around about one killed per day up to 500 killed per year in the US ... 4 times the population means more pople killed by the US police than bullets shot by German police even after calculating the different number of population
refizul: I need vacations from all that stuff
I'll do a Free Software Foundation summer education talk in three weeks
fabricius: but WHERE? moon? oh no need the Americans again ... don't get me wrong, there are a huge lot of very nice people there, but the powerful establishment and the huge companies are everywhere
summer edu <-> very good
refizul: I'll talk about Einstein's special theory of relativity - no politics, no espionage, no fucking governments
just the logic, the formulas, the beamer, the PDF, the LaTeX... and the people which come to listen 'cause they are interested
fabricius: I do an installation - but after more than 1/2 a year still not all subdomains are applied to all necessary folders ... no access from outside .. I hate that - this project will not stay there longterm, already organised
you remember the certain issue a few weeks/month ago
refizul: I remember nothing - I am almost newborn
fabricius: where I asked you for advice how to deal with ...
security thingi
THAT server
I want to go away from there as soon as possible
refizul: OMFG
fabricius: I cannot work there
refizul: why - *why* - do you make me remember... away with that concentration of stupidity
fabricius: HUGE international project growing and I do not get even the subdomain for the intranet ... takes me back frequently
hehehe
sorry
we should never forget how many people around us are wearing there heads for different purposes
refizul: I'm a man of science and peace, and this world makes me to want killing each government, my own first, the US nect. WHY IS THAT?
fabricius: BECAUSE you are a man of science and peace
refizul: I'll defeat them with science and peace. gn8
fabricius: and after WWII they learned us (the next gens) that we would have the right by constitution to take every government down, who goes against this constitution and against our human and basic rights
ok
gn8
sleep well and dream sweet honey
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wednesday polom, y'all
jonnyb: hi ricks99
ricks99: hiya jonnyb
fabricius: moloq
Wednesday in Germany is the day we usually work the most
ricks99: wolob
fabricius: you know, Germans are recognised for their work discipline ... we usually give at least 100% at work
Monday 10%
Tuesday 20%
Wednesday 40%
Thursday 25%
Friday 5%
ricks99: :)
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ricks99: Q: is there a way to check to see if a an object is in a child category of a specific category, if it is not explicty in the parent cagetory?
the {$objectCategoryIds} only seems to identify the category tthe object is actually in (not its parent)
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hey
i install tiki on local server at my office
but therer is problem while i amsearching within the file so is there any way how to search within a file on winodws pc
ricks99: ankur: you'll need to install the necessary handlers for your server
Pls see docs for details: http://doc.tiki.org/Search+within+files
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ankur: in file gallerie below search indexing there is option mimi and system command but this command are for linux so is there command for windows so that i can access keyword base search
ricks99: you'll need to install the necessary packages for your server.
ankur: how to install packages? and which packages?
ricks99: what server are you using?
ankur: it is currently on xampp
i.e localhost
ricks99: k. you'll need the zend apache extensions
see the apache docs for info on isntalling. then b sure to clear the tiki caches
ankur: apache
ricks99: may also need to restart server
ankur: which packages i need to install
can please send me links for that
ricks99: dependson what you want to search . iirc, see doc page for list of packages
01http://doc.tiki.org/Search+within+files
ankur: i need to search contents from ms *.doc file
ricks99: catdoc
ankur: what catdoc?
ricks99: thats the package. pls see docs
ankur: for installing packages they provid link/command for debian-based server, and not for windows server
ricks99: http://freecode.com/projects/catdoc
google is very powerful :)
ankur: where i suppose to install it?
ricks99: i'm not familiar with xampp, sorry. try http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
maybe in the helpapps directory?
ankur: i downloaded catdoc but there is no nay setup file as such in it ...all are source file are there
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ricks99: not sure, sorry, chedck with docs
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ankur: you are getting na what i have a problem
i need to search contents from ms *.doc file which is under file Galleries
ricks99: you need to install the server-specific handler, based on your server
this is a server functionality
ankur: so from http://freecode.com/projects/catdoc link i downloded catdoc but how to install and where ?
ricks99: depends on your sever. will need to find xampp specficis
marclaporte: Tiki can index docx nativelt
natively
ankur: where server-specific handleris located for xampp
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fabricius: moloq
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refizul: I'm running into some trouble with a forum. After posting the URL seems a bit broken.
new post leads to: tiki-view_forum.php
I expected something like: tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=59
related: outgoing email from forum does not work
Tiki 11 beta SVN revision 46610
same server, similar setup with Tiki 9.4 works fine
marclaporte: oh!
can you reproduce on demo?
refizul: no, I'm in there
is there an actual 11 on demo?
do not update
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refizul: at least mailout doesn't work, too
is there a free database on d.t.o?
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arildb: ricks99_: I have identified and fixed the bug. Only applies to IIS. It already worked OK on apache. Checking backporting now.
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03arildb r46612 10trunk/tiki-setup_base.php
tikiwiki [FIX] https protected sessions on IIS
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tikiwiki [bp/r46612][FIX] https protected sessions on IIS
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refizul: new Tiki, same problem, right from the beginning. A forum post will continue with tiki-view_forum.php
Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03arildb r46614 10branches/10.x/tiki-setup_base.php
tikiwiki [bp/r46612][FIX] https protected sessions on IIS
tikiwiki 03arildb r46615 10branches/9.x/tiki-setup_base.php
tikiwiki [bp/r46612][FIX] https protected sessions on IIS
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refizul: a hint about the problem:
PHP Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Mail_Exception' with message 'Subject set twice' in /srv/www/tiki/production/schwarm/v02-tiki-11-svn/vendor/bombayworks/zendframework1/library/Zend/Mail.php:933nStack trace:n#0 /srv/www/tiki/production/schwarm/v02-tiki-11-svn/lib/webmail/tikimaillib.php(71): Zend_Mail->setSubject
watching the error message makes the error vanish - WTF?
the URL error is related to the email error -- it occurs exactly when I try to send an email in the forum's settings
marclaporte: refizul is getting the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect
refizul: haha - no, the error is back
and almost reproducable
something is wrong with Zend
I cannot check details on demo.t.o but it does not mess around with the URL, but OTOH it doesn't send me an email
There was a change in Zend a few month ago, wasn't it?
I'm considering to use 9.4 instead of 11x
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Hello All
I'm looking to pointed in the right direction to understand the nuts and bolts of how datachannels work on the PHP level
I looked at the script - wikiplugin_datachannel.php and it doesn't appear to be the only script responsible.
What or which scripts constitute the datachannel functionality?
Oh and be gentle I'm new at this.
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RobertRas: Hello arildb...u busy?
arildb: RobertRas: doing things, yes. Why?
RobertRas: Are u familiar with the PHP workings of the datachannel functionality?
arildb: Sorry, no I am not
RobertRas: OK thx though
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