refizul: running setup.sh 4x will fix the problems marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03lindonb r46611 10trunk/lib/core/Table/Settings/ 10Abstract.php 10Users.php
tikiwiki [FIX] tablesorter: indicate that a valid email must be entered to filter the email column; add tip on placeholders in the abstract file fabricius: hi refizul
running 4x ? refizul: fabricius: hiho fabricius: :-D refizul: yes, I had to run 4x 'sh setup.sh' to get rid of errors fabricius: how r you? refizul: we need another approach for that, this is confusing fabricius: hmmm
running 1x?
lol refizul: I'm in kind of a hurry, supposed to had been running a Tiki 11 for weeks now fabricius: ok, am on work anyway
sometime I will fall from chair to bed, but if you want and both still awaik, we can chat lateron PenguinMan98: kk refizul: I'm awake until this Tiki runs fabricius: PenguinMan98: sorry, I did not allocate your answer to me and have then been in a phone conference ... no, I do not see a necessary rewriting, just joking .. do you see a necessarity of rwriting? what you want(ed) to approach? arildb_: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: was about an hour ago refizul: MyISAM or InnoDB? PenguinMan98: ok. I was thinking about a modification. Not a rewrite. I bet it wouldn't be too bad. fabricius: tell more pls
refizul: if any you need fuulltextsearch for a forum, then take MylSAM PenguinMan98: A category that isn't 'created' it is 'enabled' in the settings for the category system. fabricius: what you mean? whats the difference? refizul: fabricius: why that? fabricius: because refizul InnoB cannot fulltextsearch PenguinMan98: The 'personal' category is a category you can designate on a created object. When set, it uses the permissions created for it in the group permission system. fabricius: InnoDB refizul: anyway, I didn't prepare the machine for InnoDB fabricius: PenguinMan98: still not getting it ... category applying to object = as is?
or better object to category!?
or to eachother PenguinMan98: For example, I could give read and write permission globally but set the personal category permissions to restrict to read only for everyone. Then the system internally will still allow the global permission when the creator edits the object but everyone else gets read-only
If the object is set to the 'personal' category refizul: there is a colon missing in the installer, I just noticed fabricius: that is possible already, but I think you want kind of a default ... using the personal category as template for all users ... every user uses the same category, but it always applies to the individual owner of the object? PenguinMan98: good eye
Yes, I think you get it fabricius: that seems to be a good idea
guys, I have a question Tiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! fabricius: arrgl PenguinMan98: lol fabricius: thx for the hint boot
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I realised, that in Drupal there is made up some kind of site areas with some rewrite rule PenguinMan98: Drupal? Why are you messing around with that? refizul: fab has got a question - let's trigger the bot fabricius: like domain.com/content/initialcontent ... domain.com/anotherfolder/anotherinitialcontent
I refer to the thing in the middle PenguinMan98: Tiki does something similar when you ask for something in the /images folder and it routs it to the;'img folder refizul: what does trigger the bot? have a question ? PenguinMan98: I have a question Tiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! fabricius: looks like a folder, but I am sure it is a rewrite rule
hehe LoooooL PenguinMan98: Rez wanted to know what triggered the bot
So I triggered it fabricius: the word question PenguinMan98: nope refizul: the bot knows me too well, I do not have questions ;-) fabricius: or better have a question? PenguinMan98: You can say question all you want fabricius: I question
I have question
I have a question Tiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! PenguinMan98: have a question fabricius: have a question Tiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you!
Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! PenguinMan98: looool fabricius: that is it
so I continue PenguinMan98: do YOU have a question? fabricius: YES!!! PenguinMan98: trigger fail fabricius: I have a question thought Tiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you!
Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! fabricius: arrrgl PenguinMan98: pfffffft! fabricius: don't laugh
I am thinking about the following:
an extra table in the database PenguinMan98: already not a fan fabricius: arrg
why? PenguinMan98: lol, jk fabricius: kk PenguinMan98: The database is huge fabricius: wait for the idea pls PenguinMan98: kk fabricius: so an extra table in the database for the "foldername"
which represents aswell a preference as a rewrite rule
preference: allocate to a perspective PenguinMan98: but something we could do with a clean and pretty GUI instead of a manual edit fabricius: rewrite rule: put the foldername in the middle between domain and content
yes! PenguinMan98: magento has this
it's annoying as hell
can't find squat you're looking for fabricius: my idea is an early request for the "folder" and switch to the perspective instead of requesting all categories late and then switch the perspective
=> with perspectives and categories we build "Areas" or "Siteareas" (first name is featurename) PenguinMan98: I have no idea what you just said. I think I'd need more education on Tiki's internal workings fabricius: my idea is not to do it with categories
hmm
Areas:
kind of more than one different websites in one Tiki PenguinMan98: for that effort why not multi tiki?
or do you mean on the same domain fabricius: having all content and users in one database
same domain or different domain would be optional and already existing then PenguinMan98: isn't that how multi tiki works? fabricius: multitiki is afaik different databases but one shared codebase
Trim would be different databases and different codebase but shared configuration
if I am right ... offhand
I am still not really confident, how Areas work right now
categories are used for so many different things, and I believe they are not requested early (enough) ... a developer would have to explain me in detail .. not that I am wrong at all PenguinMan98: Can't you just install tiki in the target location and change the db/local.php file to point to the remote mysql database? fabricius: I do not want to load too much elements before the system realises to need to switch the perspective and then have to load again arildb__: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: hmmm you still do not get me ...I try a simple example
a national organisation with local branches
each branch should get it's own website, but users and parts of the content should be shared
but local content should not be visible on the site / areas of the other branches refizul: 'nuff 4 today fabricius: oh refizul early out today? refizul: Tiki is running, dovecot has got to wait until tomorrow PenguinMan98: For something like that, you'd almost need to segment the database into a shared portion and a non-shared portion refizul: mot yet out, but this is a hard installation, enough of it fabricius: at the moment we force to change the perspective dependant on a certain set of categories
refizul: gn8 refizul: fabricius: you're away? fabricius: nope
here
thought you opt out now refizul: no, I opt out of work fabricius: ah cool
welcome back then refizul: writing the documentation step by step for the special installation is hard
you know, it's for this stupid president...
check tiki.snowden.nsa.gov fabricius: PenguinMan98: I even think about if it would be possible and make sense to connect that with the namespaces => domain.com/workgroupA/home instead of domain.com/workgroupA:_:home
maybe at all only a rewriterule for *:_: to */
and backwards /*/ to /*:_:
*:_: is in fact part of a wikipagename
"workgroupA:_:home" is the wikipagename of "home" in the namespace "workgrouA" ... the way how to get same pagenames in one database for multiple perspectives/workspaces
that means that the namespace identifyer "workgroupA:_:" (divider = :_: ) is part of the wikipagename and is added automatically to the pagename, once you create a page from inside the namespace PenguinMan98: Sooo over my head fabricius: sorry PenguinMan98: No worries
<3
I gotta bbl fabricius: anyway, talking about it gave myself some idea PenguinMan98: sweet fabricius: bubu PenguinMan98 PenguinMan98: glad I can at least be a sounding board
laters! fabricius: soundingboard ... cool word
so who is still there? -: refizul is still here refizul: less than two months to FrOSCon fabricius: I must install a Tiki now and divide a Tki in two
oh yes
I will be in Bonn between 6th and 10th Aug refizul: this is too early ;-) fabricius: but we can meet for preparations
I must leave the room for short .. bbiam
;-)
still afk -: fabricius pops in and out, cause he is forgetting things in the kitchen frequently refizul: very good nobody here knows about the German meaning of 'kitchen' *g*
most people in Germany do not (!) want to be in 'the kitchen' fabricius: no, like Peter, Paul and Mary who have been walking through the prairy and then made a bank robbery .. you remember? refizul: I remember B&C - Bonnie and Clyde fabricius: I am so glad .. ich bin so glatt
English for runaways .. Englisch für Fortgeschrittene
naja, Otta can better .. just a bit flat jokes :-D refizul: Sometimes I'm invited to a wedding - but I was never invited to a divorce. Why is that?
similar with software... fabricius: Because 1st then the both have usually no money left to provide food and drinks, 2nd it would be hard to go to one party at two locations the same time refizul: people write a lot of documentation why software ist good and why and how to use it fabricius: yes refizul: but nobody writes to a mailing list why he stops using a special software, and all the reasons
however, we should add more crypto ;-)
I've got a smartcard and need still a reader, and/but my idea is to use it as a token to login arildb_: joined #tikiwiki refizul: there is an easy way to go around with that: GnuPG
the smartcard ist made for GPG and Keys, and we just need something as GPG-auth fabricius: hm
that woul be great
and maybe sendingencrypted system mails? refizul: this is all related fabricius: recently I thought about a totally encrypted Tiki - database and server refizul: big problem for users is key management and handling - it has to be easy fabricius: decrypt in the browser refizul: a system with a smartcard token may help fabricius: look here: http://bin.wikiforyou.eu/
ZeroBin encrypted pastebin refizul: client enc/dec in browser is another issue, yes -- probably one of the upcoming big ones after Snowden fabricius: already before Snowden, but now it should be easier to convince people why refizul: we can go a step further, but this is still an open problem: homomorphic encryption fabricius: we all knew .. at least who used the head for more than preventing rain fall into the throat refizul: this means using the cloud and storing encrypted data there, and (!) compute on encrypted data fabricius: decentralised personal clouds
http://owncloud.org/ chibaguy: joined #tikiwiki fabricius: keep your data on your own server
encrypted, cause of IPv6 refizul: this will not work on huge scales
the holy grail is homomorphic encryption fabricius: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/algorithm-solves-homomorphic-encryption-problem-0610.html refizul: "solves a major problem"
nice fabricius: I am sure, that does not taste good to certain people refizul: that doesn't matter regarding focussed attacks fabricius: sure? refizul: yes - you can attack any target, but not each. actually without encryption NSA attacks each one fabricius: at least it will be harder for them - and they have to go deeper braking the law and human rights ... making there attitude and goals at least more obvious refizul: no - they'll have to focus on valuable targets fabricius: aswell arildb__: joined #tikiwiki refizul: they will not panic, but the mass of people will have more protection fabricius: the thing is easy: once we have cameras and drones everywhere aqnd we have to count that only being suspected destroyes your life, they will say "stay at home if you do not want to be recorded - I DO want to go out - and I DO NOT be under suspicion only because of walking in public space in the night or by basic existance refizul: stay at home, and be recorded fabricius: I hate that .. nearly full control
yes everywhere refizul: even this IRC is recorded
online banking - recorded
online pizza orders - recorded
email to Ed Snowden - cruise missile launched... ;-) fabricius: recently I left my phone at home when I had an appointment at the job consultant - just because of the uncomfortable knowledge, that "they" in theory COULD track my way ... why somebody should have the right to track me, just because he CAN
I would email him and thank him for his braveness, if I had his email adress refizul: it's not a question of right anymore fabricius: not anymore - you are right
damned refizul: it's a question of power fabricius: democracy changed it's meaning refizul: we've got two allies
economy and technology fabricius: economy to me seems like a twoface
I have to start the installation now
will be hopping in and out refizul: a shooting here in town... and a friend is close by...
will be out of town for a while... ;-) fabricius: yeah
shooting is bad
I recently have seen a report and the (us) moderator said, that in LA police shoots at about 90 persons per month (a figure like that) ... and over there in Germany 90 per year (hole country compared with one city!)
90 person or 90 rounds? don't know exactly
ah 2011 85 bullets the whole year the whole police in Germany
ah the story was in one case 90 bullets on one person in the US
so Germany one year whole police than US bullets against one person in one case refizul: yeah - that was NY
they behave like Texas Wild West cowboys fabricius: there are numbers around about one killed per day up to 500 killed per year in the US ... 4 times the population means more pople killed by the US police than bullets shot by German police even after calculating the different number of population refizul: I need vacations from all that stuff
I'll do a Free Software Foundation summer education talk in three weeks fabricius: but WHERE? moon? oh no need the Americans again ... don't get me wrong, there are a huge lot of very nice people there, but the powerful establishment and the huge companies are everywhere
summer edu <-> very good refizul: I'll talk about Einstein's special theory of relativity - no politics, no espionage, no fucking governments
just the logic, the formulas, the beamer, the PDF, the LaTeX... and the people which come to listen 'cause they are interested fabricius: I do an installation - but after more than 1/2 a year still not all subdomains are applied to all necessary folders ... no access from outside .. I hate that - this project will not stay there longterm, already organised
you remember the certain issue a few weeks/month ago refizul: I remember nothing - I am almost newborn fabricius: where I asked you for advice how to deal with ...
security thingi
THAT server
I want to go away from there as soon as possible refizul: OMFG fabricius: I cannot work there refizul: why - *why* - do you make me remember... away with that concentration of stupidity fabricius: HUGE international project growing and I do not get even the subdomain for the intranet ... takes me back frequently
hehehe
sorry
we should never forget how many people around us are wearing there heads for different purposes refizul: I'm a man of science and peace, and this world makes me to want killing each government, my own first, the US nect. WHY IS THAT? fabricius: BECAUSE you are a man of science and peace refizul: I'll defeat them with science and peace. gn8 fabricius: and after WWII they learned us (the next gens) that we would have the right by constitution to take every government down, who goes against this constitution and against our human and basic rights
ok
gn8
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wednesday polom, y'all jonnyb: hi ricks99 ricks99: hiya jonnyb fabricius: moloq
Wednesday in Germany is the day we usually work the most ricks99: wolob fabricius: you know, Germans are recognised for their work discipline ... we usually give at least 100% at work
Monday 10%
Tuesday 20%
Wednesday 40%
Thursday 25%
Friday 5% ricks99: :) redflo: joined #tikiwiki -: ricks99 really wants to start working on revamping the info.t.o. home page... now that he's back from vacation ricks99: Q: is there a way to check to see if a an object is in a child category of a specific category, if it is not explicty in the parent cagetory?
the {$objectCategoryIds} only seems to identify the category tthe object is actually in (not its parent) jonnyb: joined #tikiwiki nkoth|nelson: joined #tikiwiki ankur: joined #tikiwiki
hey
i install tiki on local server at my office
but therer is problem while i amsearching within the file so is there any way how to search within a file on winodws pc ricks99: ankur: you'll need to install the necessary handlers for your server
Pls see docs for details: http://doc.tiki.org/Search+within+files marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki ankur: in file gallerie below search indexing there is option mimi and system command but this command are for linux so is there command for windows so that i can access keyword base search ricks99: you'll need to install the necessary packages for your server. ankur: how to install packages? and which packages? ricks99: what server are you using? ankur: it is currently on xampp
i.e localhost ricks99: k. you'll need the zend apache extensions
see the apache docs for info on isntalling. then b sure to clear the tiki caches ankur: apache ricks99: may also need to restart server ankur: which packages i need to install
can please send me links for that ricks99: dependson what you want to search . iirc, see doc page for list of packages
01http://doc.tiki.org/Search+within+files ankur: i need to search contents from ms *.doc file ricks99: catdoc ankur: what catdoc? ricks99: thats the package. pls see docs ankur: for installing packages they provid link/command for debian-based server, and not for windows server ricks99: http://freecode.com/projects/catdoc
google is very powerful :) ankur: where i suppose to install it? ricks99: i'm not familiar with xampp, sorry. try http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
maybe in the helpapps directory? ankur: i downloaded catdoc but there is no nay setup file as such in it ...all are source file are there Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: How to test for category parents (not owners) of an object? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=47921 ricks99: not sure, sorry, chedck with docs Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: - LISTPAGES plugin does not display page categories or path - http://dev.tiki.org/item4589 ankur: you are getting na what i have a problem
i need to search contents from ms *.doc file which is under file Galleries ricks99: you need to install the server-specific handler, based on your server
this is a server functionality ankur: so from http://freecode.com/projects/catdoc link i downloded catdoc but how to install and where ? ricks99: depends on your sever. will need to find xampp specficis marclaporte: Tiki can index docx nativelt
natively ankur: where server-specific handleris located for xampp dhazel: joined #tikiwiki Caarrie: joined #tikiwiki
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New Forum Posts: User and Registration tracker Help - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=47899 fabricius: moloq Telesight: joined #tikiwiki refizul: I'm running into some trouble with a forum. After posting the URL seems a bit broken.
new post leads to: tiki-view_forum.php
I expected something like: tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=59
related: outgoing email from forum does not work
Tiki 11 beta SVN revision 46610
same server, similar setup with Tiki 9.4 works fine marclaporte: oh!
can you reproduce on demo? refizul: no, I'm in there
is there an actual 11 on demo?
do not update fabricius: joined #tikiwiki refizul: at least mailout doesn't work, too
is there a free database on d.t.o? fabricius: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|Log: joined #tikiwiki Topic: for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - The Free and Open Source Web Application with the most built-in features - Tiki 10.2, 9.4 LTS and 6.10 LTS are out! Question? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log) surfhai1: joined #tikiwiki Tiki-KGB: joined #tikiwiki arildb: ricks99_: I have identified and fixed the bug. Only applies to IIS. It already worked OK on apache. Checking backporting now. Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03arildb r46612 10trunk/tiki-setup_base.php
tikiwiki [FIX] https protected sessions on IIS fabricius: joined #tikiwiki
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tikiwiki [bp/r46612][FIX] https protected sessions on IIS fabricius: joined #tikiwiki refizul: new Tiki, same problem, right from the beginning. A forum post will continue with tiki-view_forum.php Tiki-KGB: tikiwiki 03arildb r46614 10branches/10.x/tiki-setup_base.php
tikiwiki [bp/r46612][FIX] https protected sessions on IIS
tikiwiki 03arildb r46615 10branches/9.x/tiki-setup_base.php
tikiwiki [bp/r46612][FIX] https protected sessions on IIS marclaporte: joined #tikiwiki refizul: a hint about the problem:
PHP Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Mail_Exception' with message 'Subject set twice' in /srv/www/tiki/production/schwarm/v02-tiki-11-svn/vendor/bombayworks/zendframework1/library/Zend/Mail.php:933nStack trace:n#0 /srv/www/tiki/production/schwarm/v02-tiki-11-svn/lib/webmail/tikimaillib.php(71): Zend_Mail->setSubject
watching the error message makes the error vanish - WTF?
the URL error is related to the email error -- it occurs exactly when I try to send an email in the forum's settings marclaporte: refizul is getting the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect refizul: haha - no, the error is back
and almost reproducable
something is wrong with Zend
I cannot check details on demo.t.o but it does not mess around with the URL, but OTOH it doesn't send me an email
There was a change in Zend a few month ago, wasn't it?
I'm considering to use 9.4 instead of 11x dabright: joined #tikiwiki refizul_: joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Zend Framework: Forum outgoing email - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=47927 Tiki-KGB: joined #tikiwiki RobertRas: joined #tikiwiki
Hello All
I'm looking to pointed in the right direction to understand the nuts and bolts of how datachannels work on the PHP level
I looked at the script - wikiplugin_datachannel.php and it doesn't appear to be the only script responsible.
What or which scripts constitute the datachannel functionality?
Oh and be gentle I'm new at this. arildb: joined #tikiwiki RobertRas: Hello arildb...u busy? arildb: RobertRas: doing things, yes. Why? RobertRas: Are u familiar with the PHP workings of the datachannel functionality? arildb: Sorry, no I am not RobertRas: OK thx though Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Datachannel Functionality Questions - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=47928