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[02:32] luciash fabricius: automatically extending - only some js can do that (dynamically count the width, etc.)
[02:37] fabricius luciash: yes, I think so. you are right and I have to get more into js
[02:39] fabricius humm luciash my menu is looking fine in chrome, but breaking in firefox and chrome/ff mobile it breaks aswell
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[03:13] luciash fabricius: sad to hear that
[03:28] fabricius aye ... just 5 seconds ago, I think, I have fixed it
[03:28] fabricius luciash: want to see a snap?
[03:28] fabricius once you are still awaik?
[03:29] fabricius I want a responsive slideshow, but I did not manage, to get one running ... not enough experience with js I guess
[03:35] luciash fabricius: nope, thanks, busy on something here
[03:36] fabricius oki
[03:36] fabricius you are working on responsive stuff aswell, isn it?
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[03:47] luciash fabricius: not currently
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[14:38] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: v. 11: articles don't get shipped - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=48328
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[15:20] amette_ polom
[15:21] jonnyb hi amette_
[15:21] amette_ heya jonnyb :)
[15:22] amette_ if I could just get my irssiproxy working decently... I'd hang out more here... I'll have to try and move it to another server or such... *sigh*
[15:23] amette_ anyways, I just smartied a link to a page together and it looks like this: {if $smarty.server.HTTPS eq 'off' || !isset($smarty.server.HTTPS)}http://{else}https://{/if}{$smarty.server.SERVER_NAME}/{$post_info.postId|sefurl:blogpost}
[15:23] amette_ I do wonder, if that isn't possible in some cleaner/easier way?
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[15:36] amette_ doh, don't even need it...
[15:36] amette_ ... would still be interested, if anyone has ideas! :)
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[16:19] jonnyb amette_: doesn't it work as just {$post_info.postId|sefurl:blogpost} ?
[16:31] Jyhem_ +1
[16:45] amette_ I just got a link like /blogpostXYZ
[16:45] amette_ I need it to be the full URL
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[16:49] savasten Hello anyone around today?
[16:49] jonnyb amette_: isn't there a smart var called something like $base_url?
[16:49] jonnyb hi savasten
[16:50] amette_ jonnyb: $base_url - that's the one - thanks! :)
[16:51] savasten Hello do you if there have been any issues with a clean upgrade from 10.3 to 11 with LDAP?
[16:53] jonnyb sorry, not used LDAP
[16:54] jonnyb everything else seems ok though as far as i know
[16:57] savasten Ok I will check my logs. Thank you
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[17:06]  Topic for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - the only Free Web App with the most built-in features & the most open Open Source software community! Tiki 11.0 (Vega), 10.4, 9.6 & 6.12 LTS is out! Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log)
[17:11] marclaporte polom
[17:12] marclaporte what is Arild's new feature called, where you can search in the content of MySQL tables? (as admin)
[17:12] jonnyb hi marclaporte - don't know, he was about earlier... gone now
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[17:23] fabricius polom
[17:25] jonnyb hi fabricius
[17:26] fabricius hi jonnyb
[17:27] fabricius right now, since the weekend, I am facing the difficulties of making Tiki responsive
[17:28] fabricius as always jonnyb, the devil is in the detail(s)
[17:29] fabricius I hate that job and I love it the same time .. pulling me deeper and deeper into bits and bytes
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[17:30] fabricius not yet, that I "think" code, but somehow in some point of view, I start to understand, how you coders think and understand the code .. seems to be some kind of language
[17:30] fabricius :-D
[17:32] fabricius I am still struggling with css and with js integration and that stuff, but really, for each thing I learn, I find three new things to write on the "have to learn next list".
[17:34] fabricius after getting a simple basic responsible menu running, now I "lost" a few media queries, which until yesterday evening made the left and right column modui "moving" smoothely under the central content zone
[17:35] fabricius .. /s/modui/module zones/
[17:35] jonnyb think that's a general Monday thing :) i'm beginning to wish now i hadn't started refactoring how preview works... :(
[17:35] amette_ my monday goes quite fine... but I started getting into work yesterday already... ;)
[17:35] fabricius yes, it is like feeling .. eeeeergsss
[17:35] amette_ hi fabricius btw :)
[17:35] fabricius hi amette_
[17:36] amette_ I have an interesting one: Twitter integration is broken, because Twitter shut down their API v1 and only v1.1 is available any more. This means upgrading Zend library and fixing some code that uses it. Where and how to commit?!?
[17:37] amette_ I wouldn't want to mess around with library changes in an LTS, but the feature is obviously broken.
[17:37] amette_ The needed Zend library is in trunk (maybe even earlier) already, so that's quite simple.
[17:37] amette_ But how about LTS?
[17:37] fabricius jonnyb and amette_ , may I show you a little site, which I started to create as concept of proof and development area for me and anybody who likes in respect of bootstrap integration
[17:37] jonnyb sure
[17:38] fabricius how essential is the twitter feature? I think, once good things work, we should have priority to prevent regressions, even if it means to mess around with library changes in LTS
[17:38] amette_ ah, hang on 9.x is in Quality Team mode and 6.x doesn't have the feature afaik...
[17:39] amette_ ... so I could fix it in 9.x still even though there is a library change?
[17:39] fabricius the site is in a quite eeeearly veeery basic state: http://bootstrap.wiki4.me
[17:39] jonnyb i don't think we can change something like Zend in 9.x now
[17:40] amette figured so
[17:40] amette Should we at least put some note somewhere that the feature is broken and people should upgrade?
[17:40] amette as e.g. in the admin panel? bit stoopid for merges, but...
[17:40] jonnyb yes, that would be good
[17:41] jonnyb (do we have a twitter "feature"?)
[17:41] fabricius I would not vote for or against this, as I cannot assess such thing, not bing coder like you
[17:41] amette Admin -> Social Networks -> Twitter
[17:41] fabricius yep, we have twitter and facbook
[17:42] jonnyb right - have tried the Facebook one (many times) but never got it working
[17:42] amette We have a "feature" 'Social Networks' and preferences for Twitter
[17:42] fabricius facebook I did never get running, cause their code for the API never reaches me and all my phonenumbers (they pretend) would be used before
[17:42] fabricius each phone number only one time
[17:42] amette got Facebook working, but it was a pain indeed
[17:42] jonnyb has anyone really got either of these working properly? the both seemed to be half finished features to me
[17:42] fabricius actually sometimes 0 time and not all networks
[17:42] jonnyb :)
[17:42] fabricius and no support to call
[17:42] amette Twitter works nicely for me - though I mainly use the module to get timelines...
[17:43] amette ... the "tweet from shoutbox" also worked for me.
[17:43] amette Didn't test other things.
[17:44] fabricius The feature would make sense, once it works .. facebook aswell, for ex for ngos, who could do multiple posts at the same time
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[17:44] fabricius but is seems to be very hard - a mystery, to get the right facebook API
[17:44] fabricius a
[17:44] fabricius or one at all
[17:45] fabricius ahhhh .. I just recently did read in a blog of a social developer, who works for facebook since a few month ... I could write him a message on his blog in the comments :-))))))
[17:45] fabricius ok, should not
[17:47] fabricius amette, jonnyb tell me, if you like the site .. I'd like to hook it onto  the community sites, for that anybody who wants could collaborate on it without extra registration
[17:47] amette if I get this right, then 12.x is to be branched soon, right? The only things currently being developed are 9.x and 11.x(trunk), so I'll fix that as soon as possible in trunk (which has the right zend lib) and be done. Right?
[17:49] fabricius hmm not completely ... 11 is not (trunk) but 11 and pre 12 is trunk - so committing in trunk already needed backport to trunk, if there is not an automatical thingi running
[17:50] jonnyb it depends what the zend upgrade is - if it's to Zend 2 i believe it's not going to happen
[17:50] fabricius is there an automattical thingi? automerge or so?
[17:50] fabricius ahh
[17:50] jonnyb 11 is still being auto-merged to trunk, yes
[17:50] jonnyb trunk == tiki 12
[17:50] fabricius Zend 2 in Tiki 12
[17:51] fabricius yes, trunk == Tiki 12 - this way I see it aswell
[17:51] amette right, my bad, 11.x has of course been branched already
[17:51] amette the needed zend is 1.something - the one in trunk is fine
[17:51] jonnyb 11.0 is latest release
[17:51] amette just checking 11.0
[17:54] amette ok, the zend in 11.x is new enough
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[17:55] amette so I'll fix it in there and it gets merged into trunk
[17:55] amette jonnyb: 17:54 < amette> ok, the zend in 11.x is new enough
[17:55] amette so I'll fix it in there and it gets merged into trunk
[17:55] jonnyb yes
[17:55] amette cool, thanks
[17:59] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - Unknown column 'defaultOrderKey' in 'on clause' on http://next.tiki.org/tracker16  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4609
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[18:09] amette fabricius: your bootstrap-site always wants to be scrolled to the right...
[18:09] amette ... I do love the login box though!! :)
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[18:11] fabricius it wants to be scrolled right?? really?? verry strange
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[18:12] fabricius amette: what browser/os/viewport you have?
[18:13] amette Chrome/Linux/What?
[18:13] amette Chromium even
[18:14] amette and FF does the same
[18:14] amette the language selection seems to be too far out and that causes the horizontal scroll bar
[18:15] fabricius ok, I check chromium .. but I use an old small 4:3 monitor besides mobile thingis, cause lappyscreen is broken
[18:15] fabricius need to repair and to buy a big screen aswell
[18:17] fabricius ahh amette - I see it now
[18:17] fabricius good to know - I'll add this to "issues"
[18:18] fabricius though about making a form "issues" and a form "nice to have"
[18:18] fabricius I am sure, bootstrap integration will rise up a lot of different issues and out there are a lot of MIT licenced nice jquery plugins
[18:19] fabricius stuff like responsive slideshows for example
[18:20] fabricius amette:  did you mean the login_link_popup, or the poppedup box?
[18:20] amette I meant the popup when clicking on the link - the basic concept of it - it's just like what I showed in bcn on soundcloud - the way it should be! :)
[18:21] fabricius ah the behaviour - somebody made that for 10 or 11 ... we have it since a while
[18:22] fabricius yes; in the last month I was thinking about you and our discussion frequently, when I logged in to a Tiki 11 or 12
[18:22] amette ah, didn't know that - still mostly on 9.x everywhere
[18:22] fabricius I though you have been aware of that
[18:22] amette that's very cool! :)
[18:22] amette nope, not really, just recently digging into code again
[18:22] fabricius I beg you pardon - if I reconed, I would have told you
[18:24] amette cheers, mate :)
[18:24] fabricius what do you think about the site I show you? do you think, that looks like a possibly useful tool for the bootstrap integration, or more like a personal playground?
[18:25] amette to be honest: I can't really tell much about that - I know too little about bootstrap. :-|
[18:25] fabricius I mean there is a whole server account with access for trusted users ... already gave Marc the credentials
[18:25] fabricius yeahh that is one of the problems
[18:26] fabricius I see it, I hear about it, but trying to use it, I see it SEEMS to be awesome, but kind of MYSTIC or MYSTERIOUS
[18:26] fabricius kind of hard to find real tutorials, which are only tutorial pretending advertisement demos
[18:27] fabricius mostly demo-microsites
[18:27] fabricius even the often referred Twitter documentation and some Twitter references on github are closed in the actual phase of development
[18:28] fabricius so I am digging around and put everything on that place and I offer everybody from the Tiki com, to do the same, if interested in Bootstrap
[18:28] fabricius just found out a bit about the Twitter js components
[18:30] fabricius may idea is, that it can be kind of a temporary community-sub-site and the final results the committed to doc.t.o (and to themes.t.o, if not merged with doc.t.o)
[18:30] fabricius what do you think?
[18:32] amette Why not stick to our workflow and commit to svn so that everyone can read/learn/improve it?
[18:34] fabricius oh yes, I am not thinking about changing that
[18:35] amette I'll have to run now.. late already...
[18:35] amette cya guys soon! :)
[18:35] fabricius ok c ya later
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[19:13] Jyhem_ polom
[19:14] Jyhem_ no way to choose a class in object_link ?
[19:14] jonnyb hi Jyhem_
[19:15] Jyhem_ hi jonnyb
[19:16] jonnyb doesn't look like it from the source
[19:16] jonnyb guess you could add a param (if you're feeling brave ;) )
[19:16] Jyhem_ I'm trying to build a nice clean template for once, using {object_link } instead of building it out of html and I'm surprised nobody needed that
[19:17] Jyhem_ would that be a class param or a _class param ? What would look logical to you ?
[19:19] Jyhem_ frankly, the coding part looks straightforward (famous last words)
[19:21] jonnyb why do you need to give it a class? maybe there's a better way?
[19:22] Jyhem_ Because that class is already in our CSS, which would then not need to be adapted to the new template
[19:24] Jyhem_ We already have a custom articles template, with matching CSS, and I suggested to replicate that with wiki listpages. Ideally, without redoing the CSS
[19:24] jonnyb fair enough, but i'd have thought a bit of css is easier than adding params to something like that ;)
[19:25] jonnyb need a break - that preview thing was hard!
[19:25] jonnyb mbbl
[19:27] Jyhem_ c ya
[19:28] Jyhem_ and you are right:  smarty_function_object_link is too complicated: the real classes are set in smarty_function_object_link_default :-(
[19:28] Jyhem_ Back to classics
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[20:22] marclaporte When I get Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 201326592 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 574497 bytes) in /var/local/nextdev.tiki.org/www/lib/core/TikiDb/Pdo.php on line 97
[20:23] marclaporte But 574497 bytes is less than what is available 201326592, so how come the error?
[20:32] Jyhem_ marclaporte: the 574497 bytes are just the extra drop which make the 201326592 bytes jug overflow
[20:33] Jyhem_ you can totally ignore the "574497 bytes" value. :-) But you do have exhausted the memory
[20:49] marclaporte So I increase by one drop?
[21:07] marclaporte changi: can you do some magic?  http://nextdev.tiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=search&rebuild=now&loggit
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[21:55] marclaporte If anyone has any theories on this regression between 11 and 12, it would be much appreciated  Unknown column 'defaultOrderKey' in 'on clause' on http://next.tiki.org/tracker16   http://dev.tiki.org/wish4609
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[22:03] * fabricius recognises
[22:55] * panamaus regresses
[22:58] * marclaporte gets logged out from trunk WYSIWYG sites
[23:00] marclaporte http://demo.tiki.org/wysiwyg-html-trunk/ and http://demo.tiki.org/wysiwyg-wiki-trunk/ keep on losing my login state. Can someone else try and confirm?
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[23:15] fabricius polom
[23:15] fabricius I need some help!
[23:16] fabricius Some bits of training, how to reliably get JS files integrated and activated and some hints how to assess the most common error messages.
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[23:19] fabricius There are different possibilities to integrate third party JavaScript and Jquery plugins into Tiki (or into HTML), like puuting it intothe custom javascript zone in admin->look or use a wikiplugin or create a custom module etc.
[23:20] fabricius I have nearly no knowledge about the language (JS, JQ), yet, but I need that very much, especially in context to my playing with the bootstrap integration
[23:21] fabricius would anybody be prepared, to give me some basic lesson, pls?
[23:55] PenguinMan98 Oh, I bet I could help