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luciashfabricius: automatically extending - only some js can do that (dynamically count the width, etc.) [02:32]
fabriciusluciash: yes, I think so. you are right and I have to get more into js
humm luciash my menu is looking fine in chrome, but breaking in firefox and chrome/ff mobile it breaks aswell 		[02:37]
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luciashfabricius: sad to hear that [03:13]
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fabriciusaye ... just 5 seconds ago, I think, I have fixed it
luciash: want to see a snap?
once you are still awaik?
I want a responsive slideshow, but I did not manage, to get one running ... not enough experience with js I guess 		[03:28]
luciashfabricius: nope, thanks, busy on something here [03:35]
fabriciusoki
you are working on responsive stuff aswell, isn it? 		[03:36]
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luciashfabricius: not currently [03:47]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: v. 11: articles don't get shipped - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=48328 [14:38]
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jonnybhi amette_ [15:21]
amette_heya jonnyb :)
if I could just get my irssiproxy working decently... I'd hang out more here... I'll have to try and move it to another server or such... *sigh*
anyways, I just smartied a link to a page together and it looks like this: {if $smarty.server.HTTPS eq 'off' || !isset($smarty.server.HTTPS)}http://{else}https://{/if}{$smarty.server.SERVER_NAME}/{$post_info.postId|sefurl:blogpost}
I do wonder, if that isn't possible in some cleaner/easier way? 		[15:21]
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amette_doh, don't even need it...
... would still be interested, if anyone has ideas! :) 		[15:36]
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jonnybamette_: doesn't it work as just {$post_info.postId|sefurl:blogpost} ? [16:19]
Jyhem_+1 [16:31]
amette_I just got a link like /blogpostXYZ
I need it to be the full URL 		[16:45]
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Hello anyone around today? 		[16:48]
jonnybamette_: isn't there a smart var called something like $base_url?
hi savasten 		[16:49]
amette_jonnyb: $base_url - that's the one - thanks! :) [16:50]
savastenHello do you if there have been any issues with a clean upgrade from 10.3 to 11 with LDAP? [16:51]
jonnybsorry, not used LDAP
everything else seems ok though as far as i know 		[16:53]
savastenOk I will check my logs. Thank you [16:57]
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Topicfor #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - the Free Web App with the most built-in features and the most open Open Source software community! Tiki 11.0 (Vega), 10.4, 9.6 & 6.12 LTS are out! Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log).
for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - the only Free Web App with the most built-in features & the most open Open Source software community! Tiki 11.0 (Vega), 10.4, 9.6 & 6.12 LTS is out! Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log) 		[17:06]
marclaportepolom
what is Arild's new feature called, where you can search in the content of MySQL tables? (as admin) 		[17:11]
jonnybhi marclaporte - don't know, he was about earlier... gone now [17:12]
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fabriciuspolom [17:23]
jonnybhi fabricius [17:25]
fabriciushi jonnyb
right now, since the weekend, I am facing the difficulties of making Tiki responsive
as always jonnyb, the devil is in the detail(s)
I hate that job and I love it the same time .. pulling me deeper and deeper into bits and bytes 		[17:26]
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fabriciusnot yet, that I "think" code, but somehow in some point of view, I start to understand, how you coders think and understand the code .. seems to be some kind of language
:-D
I am still struggling with css and with js integration and that stuff, but really, for each thing I learn, I find three new things to write on the "have to learn next list".
after getting a simple basic responsible menu running, now I "lost" a few media queries, which until yesterday evening made the left and right column modui "moving" smoothely under the central content zone
.. /s/modui/module zones/ 		[17:30]
jonnybthink that's a general Monday thing :) i'm beginning to wish now i hadn't started refactoring how preview works... :( [17:35]
amette_my monday goes quite fine... but I started getting into work yesterday already... ;) [17:35]
fabriciusyes, it is like feeling .. eeeeergsss [17:35]
amette_hi fabricius btw :) [17:35]
fabriciushi amette_ [17:35]
amette_I have an interesting one: Twitter integration is broken, because Twitter shut down their API v1 and only v1.1 is available any more. This means upgrading Zend library and fixing some code that uses it. Where and how to commit?!?
I wouldn't want to mess around with library changes in an LTS, but the feature is obviously broken.
The needed Zend library is in trunk (maybe even earlier) already, so that's quite simple.
But how about LTS? 		[17:36]
fabriciusjonnyb and amette_ , may I show you a little site, which I started to create as concept of proof and development area for me and anybody who likes in respect of bootstrap integration [17:37]
jonnybsure [17:37]
fabriciushow essential is the twitter feature? I think, once good things work, we should have priority to prevent regressions, even if it means to mess around with library changes in LTS [17:38]
amette_ah, hang on 9.x is in Quality Team mode and 6.x doesn't have the feature afaik...
... so I could fix it in 9.x still even though there is a library change? 		[17:38]
fabriciusthe site is in a quite eeeearly veeery basic state: http://bootstrap.wiki4.me [17:39]
jonnybi don't think we can change something like Zend in 9.x now [17:39]
amettefigured so
Should we at least put some note somewhere that the feature is broken and people should upgrade?
as e.g. in the admin panel? bit stoopid for merges, but... 		[17:40]
jonnybyes, that would be good
(do we have a twitter "feature"?) 		[17:40]
fabriciusI would not vote for or against this, as I cannot assess such thing, not bing coder like you [17:41]
ametteAdmin -> Social Networks -> Twitter [17:41]
fabriciusyep, we have twitter and facbook [17:41]
jonnybright - have tried the Facebook one (many times) but never got it working [17:42]
ametteWe have a "feature" 'Social Networks' and preferences for Twitter [17:42]
fabriciusfacebook I did never get running, cause their code for the API never reaches me and all my phonenumbers (they pretend) would be used before
each phone number only one time 		[17:42]
amettegot Facebook working, but it was a pain indeed [17:42]
jonnybhas anyone really got either of these working properly? the both seemed to be half finished features to me [17:42]
fabriciusactually sometimes 0 time and not all networks [17:42]
jonnyb:) [17:42]
fabriciusand no support to call [17:42]
ametteTwitter works nicely for me - though I mainly use the module to get timelines...
... the "tweet from shoutbox" also worked for me.
Didn't test other things. 		[17:42]
fabriciusThe feature would make sense, once it works .. facebook aswell, for ex for ngos, who could do multiple posts at the same time [17:44]
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fabriciusbut is seems to be very hard - a mystery, to get the right facebook API
a
or one at all
ahhhh .. I just recently did read in a blog of a social developer, who works for facebook since a few month ... I could write him a message on his blog in the comments :-))))))
ok, should not
amette, jonnyb tell me, if you like the site .. I'd like to hook it onto the community sites, for that anybody who wants could collaborate on it without extra registration 		[17:44]
ametteif I get this right, then 12.x is to be branched soon, right? The only things currently being developed are 9.x and 11.x(trunk), so I'll fix that as soon as possible in trunk (which has the right zend lib) and be done. Right? [17:47]
fabriciushmm not completely ... 11 is not (trunk) but 11 and pre 12 is trunk - so committing in trunk already needed backport to trunk, if there is not an automatical thingi running [17:49]
jonnybit depends what the zend upgrade is - if it's to Zend 2 i believe it's not going to happen [17:50]
fabriciusis there an automattical thingi? automerge or so?
ahh 		[17:50]
jonnyb11 is still being auto-merged to trunk, yes
trunk == tiki 12 		[17:50]
fabriciusZend 2 in Tiki 12
yes, trunk == Tiki 12 - this way I see it aswell 		[17:50]
ametteright, my bad, 11.x has of course been branched already
the needed zend is 1.something - the one in trunk is fine 		[17:51]
jonnyb11.0 is latest release [17:51]
amettejust checking 11.0
ok, the zend in 11.x is new enough 		[17:51]
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ametteso I'll fix it in there and it gets merged into trunk
jonnyb: 17:54 < amette> ok, the zend in 11.x is new enough
so I'll fix it in there and it gets merged into trunk 		[17:55]
jonnybyes [17:55]
amettecool, thanks [17:55]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: - Unknown column 'defaultOrderKey' in 'on clause' on http://next.tiki.org/tracker16 - http://dev.tiki.org/item4609 [17:59]
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amettefabricius: your bootstrap-site always wants to be scrolled to the right...
... I do love the login box though!! :) 		[18:09]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Clear Tracker - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=48331 [18:09]
fabriciusit wants to be scrolled right?? really?? verry strange [18:11]
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fabriciusamette: what browser/os/viewport you have? [18:12]
ametteChrome/Linux/What?
Chromium even
and FF does the same
the language selection seems to be too far out and that causes the horizontal scroll bar 		[18:13]
fabriciusok, I check chromium .. but I use an old small 4:3 monitor besides mobile thingis, cause lappyscreen is broken
need to repair and to buy a big screen aswell
ahh amette - I see it now
good to know - I'll add this to "issues"
though about making a form "issues" and a form "nice to have"
I am sure, bootstrap integration will rise up a lot of different issues and out there are a lot of MIT licenced nice jquery plugins
stuff like responsive slideshows for example
amette: did you mean the login_link_popup, or the poppedup box? 		[18:15]
ametteI meant the popup when clicking on the link - the basic concept of it - it's just like what I showed in bcn on soundcloud - the way it should be! :) [18:20]
fabriciusah the behaviour - somebody made that for 10 or 11 ... we have it since a while
yes; in the last month I was thinking about you and our discussion frequently, when I logged in to a Tiki 11 or 12 		[18:21]
ametteah, didn't know that - still mostly on 9.x everywhere [18:22]
fabriciusI though you have been aware of that [18:22]
amettethat's very cool! :)
nope, not really, just recently digging into code again 		[18:22]
fabriciusI beg you pardon - if I reconed, I would have told you [18:22]
amettecheers, mate :) [18:24]
fabriciuswhat do you think about the site I show you? do you think, that looks like a possibly useful tool for the bootstrap integration, or more like a personal playground? [18:24]
ametteto be honest: I can't really tell much about that - I know too little about bootstrap. :-| [18:25]
fabriciusI mean there is a whole server account with access for trusted users ... already gave Marc the credentials
yeahh that is one of the problems
I see it, I hear about it, but trying to use it, I see it SEEMS to be awesome, but kind of MYSTIC or MYSTERIOUS
kind of hard to find real tutorials, which are only tutorial pretending advertisement demos
mostly demo-microsites
even the often referred Twitter documentation and some Twitter references on github are closed in the actual phase of development
so I am digging around and put everything on that place and I offer everybody from the Tiki com, to do the same, if interested in Bootstrap
just found out a bit about the Twitter js components
may idea is, that it can be kind of a temporary community-sub-site and the final results the committed to doc.t.o (and to themes.t.o, if not merged with doc.t.o)
what do you think? 		[18:25]
ametteWhy not stick to our workflow and commit to svn so that everyone can read/learn/improve it? [18:32]
fabriciusoh yes, I am not thinking about changing that [18:34]
ametteI'll have to run now.. late already...
cya guys soon! :) 		[18:35]
fabriciusok c ya later [18:35]
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Jyhem_polom
no way to choose a class in object_link ? 		[19:13]
jonnybhi Jyhem_ [19:14]
Jyhem_hi jonnyb [19:15]
jonnybdoesn't look like it from the source
guess you could add a param (if you're feeling brave ;) ) 		[19:16]
Jyhem_I'm trying to build a nice clean template for once, using {object_link } instead of building it out of html and I'm surprised nobody needed that
would that be a class param or a _class param ? What would look logical to you ?
frankly, the coding part looks straightforward (famous last words) 		[19:16]
jonnybwhy do you need to give it a class? maybe there's a better way? [19:21]
Jyhem_Because that class is already in our CSS, which would then not need to be adapted to the new template
We already have a custom articles template, with matching CSS, and I suggested to replicate that with wiki listpages. Ideally, without redoing the CSS 		[19:22]
jonnybfair enough, but i'd have thought a bit of css is easier than adding params to something like that ;)
need a break - that preview thing was hard!
mbbl 		[19:24]
Jyhem_c ya
and you are right: smarty_function_object_link is too complicated: the real classes are set in smarty_function_object_link_default :-(
Back to classics 		[19:27]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Should WYSIWYG be tagged as basic, advanced or experimental? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=48332 [19:41]
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marclaporteWhen I get Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 201326592 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 574497 bytes) in /var/local/nextdev.tiki.org/www/lib/core/TikiDb/Pdo.php on line 97
But 574497 bytes is less than what is available 201326592, so how come the error? 		[20:22]
Jyhem_marclaporte: the 574497 bytes are just the extra drop which make the 201326592 bytes jug overflow
you can totally ignore the "574497 bytes" value. :-) But you do have exhausted the memory 		[20:32]
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marclaporteSo I increase by one drop? [20:49]
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changi: can you do some magic? http://nextdev.tiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=search&rebuild=now&loggit [21:07]
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marclaporteIf anyone has any theories on this regression between 11 and 12, it would be much appreciated Unknown column 'defaultOrderKey' in 'on clause' on http://next.tiki.org/tracker16 http://dev.tiki.org/wish4609 [21:55]
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panamauspanamaus regresses [22:55]
marclaportemarclaporte gets logged out from trunk WYSIWYG sites
http://demo.tiki.org/wysiwyg-html-trunk/ and http://demo.tiki.org/wysiwyg-wiki-trunk/ keep on losing my login state. Can someone else try and confirm? 		[22:58]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Fwd: Relevant Link Request - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=48336 [23:14]
fabriciuspolom
I need some help!
Some bits of training, how to reliably get JS files integrated and activated and some hints how to assess the most common error messages. 		[23:15]
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fabriciusThere are different possibilities to integrate third party JavaScript and Jquery plugins into Tiki (or into HTML), like puuting it intothe custom javascript zone in admin->look or use a wikiplugin or create a custom module etc.
I have nearly no knowledge about the language (JS, JQ), yet, but I need that very much, especially in context to my playing with the bootstrap integration
would anybody be prepared, to give me some basic lesson, pls? 		[23:19]
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PenguinMan98Oh, I bet I could help [23:55]
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