[00:11] redflo joined #tikiwiki [00:45] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [00:59] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [01:08] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r46977 10trunk/ 10templates/remarksbox.tpl 10tiki-setup_base.php 10templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl 10lib/smarty_tiki/block.remarksbox.php [01:08] Tiki-KGB [ENH] remarksbox: Remember which rboxes have been closed by the user and keep them closed (reset button in user preferences) [01:08] Tiki-KGB Thanks for the idea luciash, sorry it took so long! :) [01:52] Tiki-KGB 03pascalstjean r46978 03trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_webdocviewer.php [01:52] Tiki-KGB [NEW] New plugin to allow over 20 file types to be viewed inline using Google Document Viewer [02:47] Anzhe joined #tikiwiki [02:50] Anzhe_m joined #tikiwiki [02:52] TomJarvis joined #tikiwiki [02:56] Tiki-KGB 03pascalstjean r46979 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_webdocviewer.php * [MOD] Removed Print line used during testing [03:23] goj_killedByISP joined #tikiwiki [03:47] Anzhe usability question for Tiki Wiki 11 - the Pages section has two tabs, List Wiki Pages & Create a Wiki Page... I find that it "saves state" - the last tab you looked at is the one you'll see next time regardless of your intended action. [03:48] Anzhe In other words, if I List Wiki Pages, and then via the left menu select "Create a Wiki Page", it will take me to Pages and show me the List Wiki Pages screen instead. [03:48] Anzhe This is clearly incorrect. [03:48] Anzhe How do either stop saving state, or override the tab display so that you get the one you intended? [03:52] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [03:53] marclaporte polom [03:53] marclaporte Tiki 11.x rocks [03:53] Anzhe polom! [03:54] marclaporte :-) [03:54] Anzhe marclaporte: if you have a minute, please check the log to see the question I just posted here [03:54] marclaporte sure [03:57] marclaporte Anzhe: yes, that tab memory is annoying [03:57] marclaporte Expect for turning off tabs, I don't know of a solution or workaround [03:58] marclaporte I vaguely remember when it was introduced [03:58] marclaporte It was to solve the problem of always having to select tab2 or tab3 when you came back [03:59] Anzhe it makes sense in all context except when you select a link to a specific tab [03:59] Anzhe then it's a complete UI failure [04:06] Anzhe in there a way to get rid of the "Titles" button on the Search module? [04:06] Anzhe I can post a photo if that's not a clear question [04:09] marclaporte Anzhe: about tabs memory, can you http://dev.tiki.org/Make+a+wish ? I suggest you record a short screencast: http://doc.tiki.org/Screencast#Demo_of_screencast_and_editing_the_video and then, we'll have a community discussion about to resolve [04:10] marclaporte "Titles" button on the Search module -> Yes, there a bunch of module options. [04:14] marclaporte http://demo.tiki.org/11x/tiki-admin_modules.php?edit_assign=18&cookietab=2 check the tabs here [04:15] marclaporte try show_go_button=n [04:15] marclaporte titles used to be go I think :-) [04:15] Anzhe there is Titles and Go :-) [04:15] Anzhe but only the Go button has a appearance config option [04:16] Anzhe wait what [04:16] Anzhe that worked [04:16] Anzhe ok hold on! [04:16] Anzhe someone oughta file a bug report [04:17] Anzhe "Show Go Button" toggles the "Titles" button? that's how you give new users headaches! ;-) [04:18] Anzhe marclaporte: do you know how often the Lucene index is updated? [04:23] marclaporte On your Tiki site or in general? [04:25] Anzhe the default setting [04:25] Anzhe I just turned the search on for our site and forced an index update [04:25] Anzhe but I'm curious how/when it updates itself [04:26] Anzhe for example, a cron queue that is tapped with each page edit... [04:27] marclaporte So not all operations are handled by incremental updates. Thus, you need to have a daily cron for a full rebuild. [04:27] marclaporte ex.: when you rename a page, the old page stays in the index and when you click on it, you get an error [04:29] marclaporte "Show Go Button" toggles the "Titles" button -> instead of a bug report, what do you say that I teach you to commit a fix for this? [04:30] marclaporte basically, learning to commit and changing a text label [04:30] marclaporte This will be useful as well when you want to commit translations [04:31] Anzhe that would be very kind of you. if you've got time now I've got time, or we can schedule a mentoring session for another date/time? [04:50] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [04:50] marclaporte so... [04:51] Anzhe did you not receive my last message? [04:51] Anzhe marclaporte: that would be very kind of you. if you've got time now I've got time, or we can schedule a mentoring session for another date/time? [04:52] marclaporte Let's start now [04:52] marclaporte and see how far we get :-) [04:52] Anzhe ok [04:52] marclaporte 1st thing, you fix locally [04:52] Anzhe log it all here or switch to direct messaging? [04:52] marclaporte then, after, you learn to commit [04:53] marclaporte log all here, for others to learn as well [04:53] marclaporte So, there is inconsistent label. Which one to keep, which one to change? [04:53] Anzhe clearly we keep the button, because the functionality is a Title search [04:54] Anzhe Go means nothing in particular [04:55] marclaporte So what exact text do you want to change, and from what to what? [04:56] Anzhe ok, on the Search module preferences (having already added it to a page region), under the Module tab, there is an option called "Show Go Button" [04:56] Anzhe below the input also has the text "Show go to page button. Default: "y" (do show go button)" [04:56] marclaporte ok, perfect [04:56] Anzhe all instances of "go" should be changed to "Titles" [04:56] Anzhe (I'm being exceedingly loquacious for posterity's sake) [04:57] marclaporte So, now, you need to grep (search through all) the code to see if it's a unique use [04:57] marclaporte So you don't break something else by making this better. Seems unlikely, but just to be sure [04:57] Anzhe one moment, my IDE is still indexing the Tiki11 local install [04:58] marclaporte So most text strings are in the templates directory [04:58] Anzhe I assume you do active development, just out of curiousity which IDE do you use? [04:59] marclaporte I usually commit from the server, no IDE [04:59] marclaporte I just SSH to Linux server, change code, and commit from there [04:59] Anzhe you write PHP without an IDE? [04:59] Anzhe are you a wizard? [05:00] marclaporte A lot of people here like PHP Storm [05:00] Anzhe that's what I've used for a couple of years as well [05:00] marclaporte I don't do tricky stuff [05:00] Anzhe started with NetBeans but it just ran like... a non-runner [05:01] Anzhe ok, I found 9 instances of "do show go button" in my T11 vanilla install [05:01] Anzhe one is in the modules folder, the rest are localization strings [05:01] Anzhe in the lang folders [05:02] Anzhe mod-func-search.php line 58 has it [05:02] marclaporte ok, so there is where you need to modify it [05:02] Anzhe yep [05:03] marclaporte It will break all the translations, and then you need to decide if that is a good thing or bad thing [05:03] marclaporte Should translations be invalidated? If Yes, you have nothing else to do (but commit) [05:04] Anzhe I guess that depends if the translations are obsolete as well [05:04] Anzhe the UK Eng and FR are obviously wrong [05:04] Anzhe so I think they should be invalidated [05:05] Anzhe question [05:05] Anzhe the array itself is misnamed [05:05] Anzhe line 56 [05:05] Anzhe 'show_go_button' [05:06] Anzhe this array has 6 usages in mod-func-search.php and one in mod-search.tpl [05:06] Anzhe it should be renamed to 'show_titles_button' [05:07] Anzhe shall I go ahead and update all instances in the single commit? [05:07] marclaporte For the record, if they should not be invlidated, then, there should be a search & replace to change the original string -> http://dev.tiki.org/mass+spelling+correction [05:07] marclaporte yes, you should commit all this in one commit since it's all related [05:08] Anzhe lemme go ahead and make those edits then, one moment [05:08] marclaporte But if you change the variable name, it could get more tricky [05:08] marclaporte So you can be lazy/safe and keep variable name and just change labels [05:08] Anzhe it's a key within the 'params' array [05:08] Anzhe rather than an independent variable, so I think changing it fully is low-risk [05:09] marclaporte What about existing sites that are using it under that name? [05:09] Anzhe I don't follow [05:09] Anzhe the commit would not impact existing sites [05:10] marclaporte If someone has a wiki page in which he calls that module with show_go_button=n as a param, what will happen? [05:11] Anzhe nothing, or it'll throw an error for array key not found [05:11] marclaporte So they could have a change of behavior, no? [05:11] Anzhe indeed, but clearly calling an apple "potato" for legacy's sake is also not ideal [05:11] Anzhe so I would defer to the developer guidelines [05:11] Anzhe which are...? :-) [05:12] marclaporte hehe [05:12] Anzhe actually no [05:12] Anzhe first I would find the person who changed "Go" to "Titles" and slap them with a trout [05:12] Anzhe THEN I could consult the developer guidelines [05:12] marclaporte hahahahhahaha [05:13] marclaporte The general guideline is to do what you think is best for Tiki [05:13] Anzhe it was you, wasn't it? and now you're making me clean up your mess under the guise of a learning exercise! [05:13] * Anzhe looks askance at marc [05:13] marclaporte :-) :-) :-) [05:13] marclaporte Next lesson will be on svn blame :-) [05:13] Anzhe commit comment rage? ;-) [05:14] marclaporte I suggest you commit to trunk since there could be a change in behavior and it will be your first commit [05:14] Anzhe where is TW's code hosted? [05:14] Anzhe I haven't read up on the dev side of things at all [05:14] Anzhe my apologies [05:15] marclaporte and gives others the chance to give feedback. And, if all good, you can backport to 11.x [05:15] marclaporte https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/ [05:15] marclaporte See http://dev.tiki.org/Commit+Code [05:15] marclaporte What is your SourceForge username? [05:15] Anzhe ok if we're gonna be using soureforge I need to drop offline for a moment and turn on my VPN [05:15] Anzhe SF is blocked in China >_> [05:15] marclaporte ok [05:15] Anzhe and I'll also make a new SF username [05:16] Anzhe back in 5 minutes I guess [05:20] Anzhe joined #tikiwiki [05:21] * Anzhe waves at marc [05:21] Anzhe ok, I'm VPN'd and registered [05:23] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Choosing the size of the RR plugin picture output - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=24&comments_parentId=48427 [05:23] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Datachannel Help - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=48422 [05:23] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: PluginSQL Approval - No Change to Plugin - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=48420 [05:29] marclaporte I need your username [05:29] Anzhe anzhe [05:29] marclaporte while you read: http://dev.tiki.org/3+Rules [05:31] PrezKennedy joined #tikiwiki [05:32] * Anzhe has finished reading the 3 Rules and 3 Rules Extended Edition [05:32] marclaporte You can commit access: https://sourceforge.net/users/anzhe [05:33] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Choosing the size of the RR plugin picture output - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=24&comments_parentId=48427 [05:33] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Datachannel Help - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=48422 [05:33] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: PluginSQL Approval - No Change to Plugin - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=48420 [05:33] Anzhe marclaporte: one moment please, subordinate just came in [05:35] Anzhe marclaporte: ok, I'm back. All of my pet projets are on BitBucket, so I have TortoiseHg installed. Do you recommend I add TortoiseSVN or use PHPStorm's internal SVN tools? [05:37] panamaus joined #tikiwiki [05:39] marclaporte I guess try first with PHPStorm [05:53] Anzhe for anyone reading this log post facto, we're taking a break from the exercise while I get my SVN integration in PHPStorm sorted [06:25] marclaporte joined #tikiwiki [06:26] TomJarvis joined #tikiwiki [06:30] TomJarvis polom [06:32] TomJarvis I have been following the mentoring session while I wait for a scan to complete. The scan ended so I am shutting down for the night. I will have to see how it ends tomorrow. [06:33] marclaporte TomJarvis: you will do your 1st commit as well? [06:35] TomJarvis I am interested in the possibility, but I am stuck on tiki 9 (php level problem) so I probably can't participate until I get that fixed. [06:36] TomJarvis Someone asked about showing titles in the file galleries slide show. The support for it is in the tpl file, has that been added in Tiki's above 9? [06:37] marclaporte I don't know [06:37] marclaporte use demo.tiki.org to check quickly [06:38] marclaporte do you have your commit access yet? [06:43] TomJarvis I do not have commit access. [06:44] marclaporte ok, let's get that part solved and you can commit later, when you are ready [06:44] Bert_ joined #tikiwiki [06:44] Bert_ Hi! [06:44] marclaporte I just need your SourceForge username [06:44] marclaporte hi Bert_ [06:45] Bert_ I'm trying to add a link to an image, but when I do, it opens the link on a different window, how do i get it to open in the same window? [06:46] marclaporte is the link on same domain? [06:46] Bert_ yes [06:46] marclaporte are you using relative or absolute link? [06:47] Bert_ absolute [06:47] marclaporte try relative [06:47] Bert_ will do, will report back in a few [06:49] Bert_ Great! It's working Marc [06:50] marclaporte super! [06:50] TomJarvis My SourceForge username is tomjrvs, at least that is what I put in the "Community members information". I am away from home and I don't find it in my laptop's passwordsafe. [06:50] marclaporte Bert_: and it's better if ever you change your domain name in the future [06:51] Bert_ Another question, I'm trying to add google authorship for differnt users. What's the easiest way to do so. Right now I'm creating a category for each users, and then adding the code through a module and parsing the module by categories. This way is kinda annoying, what's a better solution? [06:52] Bert_ To sum it up, I need a way to add items to a page base on the creator of that page. [06:53] TomJarvis Bert: Write a plugin. [06:53] marclaporte TomJarvis: you have commit access: https://sourceforge.net/u/tomjrvs/profile/ [06:54] TomJarvis I tested file galleries slide show in demo tiki 11. There is no option to request the description in the settings, and it does not display. [06:54] Bert_ Write a plugin? I wouldn't know where to start lol [06:55] marclaporte Bert_: what is "google authorship" ? [06:55] TomJarvis I tried the slideshow URL appending caption=d and it does a brief list of the description before the start of the slideshow, but it didn't change the slideshow. [06:55] Bert_ It shows a pic of the author of the page on google search results https://plus.google.com/authorship [06:56] marclaporte So like a more from this author type of thing? [06:57] TomJarvis Thank you for the commit access. [06:58] Bert_ Marc for the picture to show, I need to add a link of that user's 'google' profile for every article they create, i'm not sure how to do that. [07:01] marclaporte Bert_: 1st thing, Tiki would need a mapping of Tiki usernames and corresponding Google IDs [07:01] Bert_ How would I go about doing that? [07:02] Bert_ I'm new to tikiwiki [07:02] marclaporte Not sure but [07:02] marclaporte It reminds me a bot of http://doc.tiki.org/Interoperability#Gravatar [07:04] marclaporte bot -> bit [07:04] Bert_ cool, will look into that, thanks for your help, i'm out, have a nice night/morning lol [07:05] Anzhe marclaporte: regarding the impact of changes to the English UI text on other lang files, what is the responsibility of the person changing the UI? [07:06] Anzhe should they update the root lang string in every lang file and let localizers update the result straing [07:06] Anzhe *string [07:06] TomJarvis Good night [07:06] Anzhe or should they leave the root string as is and there is some sort of auto update tool that handles that? [07:06] Anzhe how does it work [07:07] marclaporte Anzhe: there is a script for that (get_strings.php), run at each release. 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