[00:28] RobertR Take care all
[00:29] RobertR c u lphuberdeau, thx for your advise.
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[02:48] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - CODE plugin doesn't accept HTML Code  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4624
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[03:38] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - Creating a Table is Wiki WYSIWYG doesn't keep any of the styles or settings after you save  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4625
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[05:24] Anzhe yow
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[09:32] chibaguy I wonder why, at my localhost trunk, on all admin pages I'm only getting part of the html, only the "page data" - no html head and no side columns, footer, etc.
[09:32] chibaguy So of course there's no CSS or JS, since there's no html head.
[09:34] chibaguy It's a stock trunk checkout except the .htaccess is modified: "AddOutputFilterByType DEFLATE text/html text/plain text/xml text/css application/x-javascript application/javascript" is commented out; otherwise my site gets a fatal error.
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[11:49] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Wiki page Import function - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=48502
[12:42] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r47009 10trunk/ 10lib/comments/commentslib.php 10tiki-editpage.php * [FIX] mimelib: Function decode is not static (thanks Geoff)
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[13:52] ricks99 polom y'all
[14:14] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r47010 10trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.remarksbox.php * [FIX] remarksbox: Check for getCookie function (not present in installer)
[14:18] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r47011 10trunk/ 10lib/core/Tracker/Field/Files.php 03installer/schema/20130807_tracker_files_display_param_change_tiki.php
[14:18] Tiki-KGB [MOD] trackers: Change some options in Files field in preparation for extending the display mode to use other plugins apart from img to show video (and other media types in the future)
[14:25] luciash polom ya
[14:35] ricks99 hiya luciash
[14:58] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r47012 10trunk/lib/ 10core/Tracker/Field/Files.php 10wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_vimeo.php
[14:58] Tiki-KGB [ENH] vimeo: Initial implementation of "vimeo" display mode for tracker Files fields
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[15:16] luciash chibaguy: hi
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[15:47] chibaguy hi luciash
[16:02] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Strange trunk layout - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=48504
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[16:16] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47013 10trunk/ 10(6 files in 6 dirs) * [MOD] Adding entry aggregation to avoid noise in the stream for subsequent edits
[16:26] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47014 10trunk/lib/core/Services/ActivityStream/ManageController.php * [ENH] Carry over the aggregate hash by default for the tracker filter rules
[16:33] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Use CATEGORY plugin to list all items in subcategories, by subcategory? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=48506
[16:36] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47015 03trunk/lib/core/Math/Formula/Function/Hash.php * [MOD] Adding a function to allow generating custom hashes for custom events
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[16:53] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - Tracker list_items ran out of memory after 0 items.  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4626
[16:54] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47016 10trunk/lib/ 03core/Search/ResultSet/WikiBuilder.php 10wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_activitystream.php * [ENH] Make the aggregation behavior optional and configurable
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[17:48] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47018 10trunk/templates/tiki-friends.tpl * [ENH] Use aggregation on the default friendship network feed
[17:52] lphuberdeau is it just me or the fonts in the menu got even smaller than they already were?
[17:52] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47019 10trunk/lib/user/sociallib.php * [FIX] Don't allow adding self as a friend, make sure the users exist
[17:53] lphuberdeau nope, was me
[17:54] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47020 10trunk/templates/activity/tiki.trackeritem.update.tpl * [FIX] Missing closing tag
[17:54] xavi polom
[17:55] xavi go lphuberdeau go! (nice feature you are coding!) :-)
[17:55] lphuberdeau https://doc.tiki.org/Activity+Stream
[17:55] xavi how is summer in Montreal, lphuberdeau?
[17:55] xavi assuming you are in Montreal
[17:55] xavi which might be wrong assumption
[17:55] lphuberdeau warm and sunny
[17:55] xavi :-)
[17:58] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47021 10trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.userlink.php * [FIX] Notices
[17:59] xavi thanks for the documentation also: nice, clear, descriptive, etc
[17:59] xavi lphuberdeau: do you have in your roadmap any plan for sending the stream in an email to users on demand? (like daily reports, etc)
[18:00] lphuberdeau not quite, although it's related
[18:00] xavi yep
[18:00] lphuberdeau but that's somehow part of the "fix notifications" project that will wait after 12
[18:01] xavi "fix notifications" project :-)
[18:01] xavi awesome work you are doing lphuberdeau fixing tiki one step at a time, with a good roadmap to let you finish things in reasonable time frames, etc.
[18:02] lphuberdeau long term backing of those projects help the planning too
[18:02] xavi ok, back to have a look at etherpad lite, and a potential new plugin for Tiki...
[18:03] xavi do you have any project in your mind realted to WebRTC?
[18:03] xavi related
[18:03] lphuberdeau looked into WebRTC, still moving a bit too much for me
[18:03] xavi I mean if any client already requested you code anything for some future but known version of Tiki
[18:03] xavi ok
[18:03] lphuberdeau one of those "wait a few months and try again"
[18:04] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - Command line re-indexing of search: should give you stats like web interface  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4627
[18:04] xavi I used for production a simple iframe to a (ether)pad window for production weeks ago
[18:04] xavi and that was useful enough for production for our project where we needed something like etherpad
[18:05] xavi I know it's not integrated at all with Tiki, but for end users it served a purpose, so I'm considering to create some plugin to create pad iframes on th wki page (using some publicly available pad servers, or fetching your own pad installation as a Tiki mod)
[18:13] lphuberdeau there is really a lot that is going to happen in that space
[18:13] lphuberdeau preview: https://towtruck.mozillalabs.com/
[18:17] xavi wohooo, interesting, thanks!
[18:19] xavi "TowTruck requires specific support for editors. There is active support for CodeMirror (used for example by Thimble),..."
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[18:27] lphuberdeau it shouldn't be too hard to integrate with Tiki, it's just including a javascript file
[18:28] Tiki-KGB 03lphuberdeau r47022 10trunk/ 10lib/prefs/activity.php 10lib/activity/activitylib.php 10lib/setup/events.php 10templates/admin/include_community.tpl * [ENH] Add checkboxes to record basic events, making it easier to get started
[18:28] lphuberdeau however I think we need some tighter integration on the long run, and not sure what will happen with that specific mozilla labs project
[18:28] xavi yes, I agree
[18:28] lphuberdeau but I'm sure more good things like that will come one, this is just showing the way with a tech preview
[18:29] lphuberdeau but I mean, for your use case, it might be easier than etherpad
[18:29] xavi yep
[18:29] xavi thks
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[19:21] xavi lphuberdeau: towtruck doesn't allow co-editon of the same wiki page, unluckily. Or not right now (concurrent edition lock in Tiki might prevent it)
[19:21] xavi thanks anyway, seems promising, and I'll revisit in the future
[19:21] lphuberdeau probably just the lock, yes
[19:22] lphuberdeau might work on tracker items
[19:22] xavi yep, and on wysiwyg plugin things (no lock there, afaik, etc)
[19:22] lphuberdeau I think co-edition needs to become part of the locking process
[19:22] xavi yes
[19:23] lphuberdeau blocking people is not the right way
[19:23] lphuberdeau just need to wait a little for all of this to become a bit more mature (and documented)<
[19:23] xavi yep
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[19:37] skulltrail hello guys
[19:39] skulltrail Anybody know how to make a button change the value of varible?
[19:40] xavi no idea skulltrail, but maybe somehow with some JQ magic? https://doc.tiki.org/PluginJQ
[19:43] ricks99 a Tiki variable?
[19:43] ricks99 what are you trying to do?
[19:45] skulltrail well, i created a variable (assign on php file), and, i verify the value on tpl file. I want change in runtime the varaible value.
[19:54] ricks99 think you'll need to make a button that submits to a php file that changes the value
[19:55] ricks99 iirc, can't have php coding directly in a tiki wiki page
[19:55] ricks99 or, could do with a custom plugin
[20:00] xavi ok, time to leave. c u
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[20:11] * PenguinMan98 waves to all
[20:13] * ricks99 waves back.
[20:19] PenguinMan98 Hey Ricks, I had this idea the other day called the 'personal' category
[20:20] PenguinMan98 This category name is reserved by the tiki and enabled in the options system
[20:21] PenguinMan98 When a page is set with the 'personal' category, then the permissions that are defined for that category are applied to the page if and only if it is being viewed by the person who created it.
[20:21] PenguinMan98 This would allow my players to create customized homes in the wiki without fear of griefing by other players
[20:22] PenguinMan98 what do you think?
[20:22] ricks99 i try to avoid "reserved" names...although "personal" has meaning in English, not so much for i18n. You can sorta do this with the "create group per user" option, then simply assign the page to the group/user
[20:22] ricks99 there's already a home-per-group option, too
[20:23] PenguinMan98 oh? How does that work?
[20:23] ricks99 on the admin login page, there's a 'create group per user' option that will create a group for each new user (named identically to the user)
[20:24] ricks99 this creates a 1:1 between each user and his own group
[20:24] PenguinMan98 wouldn't you have to set the permissions for each group individually?
[20:24] ricks99 y. each user could set their own group perms, as desired
[20:24] PenguinMan98 ...?
[20:25] ricks99 so, i could make the "ricks99" group public or private or anything inbetween
[20:25] ricks99 maybe i want people to add comments and edit my group pages. maybe not
[20:25] PenguinMan98 But I as admin have to allow you permission to change permissions for that group
[20:26] ricks99 correct. or anyone with the admin group / perms rights
[20:26] ricks99 think there's also a way to do tis with namespaces, but have no exp
[20:27] PenguinMan98 I'd look it up on doc tiki, but I've kinda lost faith finding useful information there
[20:27] ricks99 might find stuff on dev.t.o
[20:27] PenguinMan98 what's that?
[20:28] ricks99 dev.tiki.org
[20:28] ricks99 the main dev site
[20:28] ricks99 many new featuers start out there (with full dev discussions) and (hopefully) eventually find their way to doc.t.o
[20:28] * PenguinMan98 nods
[20:29] PenguinMan98 think it's worth my time to upgrade to tiki 11? is it out yet?
[20:29] ricks99 11.0 was released several wks ago. i've moved a few of my sites to it (includting smarties)
[20:29] ricks99 lots of nice new featuers
[20:29] ricks99 but remember...
[20:30] ricks99 will become obsolute upon 12.0 release.
[20:34] mlaporte 12.1 technically :-)
[20:35] * ricks99 happy marc is always lurking nearby
[20:36] * mlaporte is happy show.tiki.org is happening :-)
[20:37] ricks99 +1
[20:38] PenguinMan98 show.tiki.org?
[20:40] ricks99 see https://dev.tiki.org/show.tiki.org
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[21:15] stix Hi guys. I am using the newsletter functionality, but special danish letters are translated into a "?-symbol". I have tried to go from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1. That didn't do anything. What's wrong?
[21:18] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - List all items in Category tree, grouped by subcategory  - http://dev.tiki.org/item4628
[21:24] luciash stix: perhaps your db is not utf-8 ?
[21:25] stix luciash: aha okay, I will try to figure that out
[21:31] stix luciash: that helped a lot, thank you :)
[21:31] arildb stix: try to run tiki-check.php. That should give you some info
[21:35] luciash stix: good to read that, u r welcome
[21:43] * mlaporte thinks tiki-check.php is the most awesome thing in its category
[21:52] stix doesn't seem to exist on my old 8.3
[21:57] mlaporte indeed, but you can download
[21:57] mlaporte http://doc.tiki.org/Server+Check
[21:58] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: How to display locations on a map? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=48513
[22:00] skulltrail Jesus peace for all
[22:08] Tiki-KGB 03luciash r47023 10trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.remarksbox.php
[22:08] Tiki-KGB [FIX] close remarks box only when clicking the close icon; if Cancelled, actually do not fade out the remarks box; do not close all the other remarks boxes without confirmation for now (TODO: needs checkbox or "Are you sure you want to close all subsequent remarks boxes permanently?" confirmation)
[22:38] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r47024 10trunk/templates/error.tpl
[22:38] Tiki-KGB [ENH] More flexibility for handling not-really-errors messages in less threatening way
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[23:07] PenguinMan98 woo
[23:07] * PenguinMan98 gets me some Jesus peace.  Thanks skulltrail
[23:09] PenguinMan98 So, if I understand what show.tiki is about, you go there with someone, walk them through the setup process and then at the end, they get a zipfile with the exact tiki you built together?
[23:13] * PenguinMan98 chuckles as he sees this: "Version 10.4 is still supported. However, a major upgrade to 10.4 is available."
[23:13] PenguinMan98 The version numbers are the same
[23:28] luciash heh
[23:29] luciash PenguinMan98: show.t.o is more about showcasing bugs and issues on replicated environment snapshot so it is easier for developers to see and fix
[23:29] PenguinMan98 oh?
[23:30] PenguinMan98 Makes sense
[23:34] PenguinMan98 HA!
[23:34] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/s7z0I7XWR
[23:34] PenguinMan98 'Uthopias'
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[23:39] PenguinMan98 I think I'll upgrade to tiki 11 as soon as I get a moment to
[23:39] PenguinMan98 I like the upgrades to the mail system. Who knows? THis might finally fix my email problems
[23:39] luciash PenguinMan98: you point to the typo ?
[23:40] PenguinMan98 Yes, it's a typo
[23:40] PenguinMan98 And yes, I never got my emails going out
[23:40] luciash use SMTP
[23:40] PenguinMan98 I've tried
[23:40] PenguinMan98 I've spent days googling crap, trying smtp or gmail or whatever. I've downloaded many programs and jumped through every hoop
[23:41] luciash i have just tried on my localhost with smtp.gmail.com and SSL choice and it works in trunk
[23:41] PenguinMan98 The emails still don't go out
[23:41] luciash at least the test mail is sent
[23:41] PenguinMan98 you aren't on windows
[23:41] luciash nope, that is true :)
[23:41] * PenguinMan98 nods
[23:41] luciash my localhost is on linux