[02:03] laurei does anyone know if there is an API to call a rendered tikiwiki page without the headers and footers, etc?
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[02:32] fabricius hi laurei
[02:32] laurei hey fabricius
[02:32] fabricius for what you need that?
[02:32] laurei basically what I'm trying to do is call a wiki page from an external website
[02:32] fabricius maybe with a perspective
[02:33] fabricius subdomain to a perspective and deactivate all module areas in that perspective
[02:33] laurei I have a project management system which i would like to be able to reference a wiki page for each project
[02:33] fabricius maybe the easiest way
[02:33] laurei I can't change domains because its all SSL
[02:33] laurei i just thought there'd be an api to do that
[02:34] fabricius why you cant't change domain?
[02:34] fabricius with ssl
[02:34] laurei we are using ssl and only have one certificate
[02:34] laurei its extended validation and can't have subdomains on it
[02:34] fabricius you cannot use the same certificate with a subdomain?
[02:34] laurei no
[02:34] fabricius in the same installation/database?
[02:34] fabricius hmm
[02:35] laurei so there doesn't exist an api for what I'd like
[02:35] fabricius do you want to use the same page with modules around at the same time, or only included?
[02:35] laurei speaking architecturally, what would i need to create one?
[02:36] fabricius not an API if I understand that well, but the should be opportunities
[02:36] fabricius a perspective?
[02:36] fabricius just activate and click on a button or so
[02:36] laurei I'm only new to tikiwiki, the only thing i have used extensively is the RBAC / permissions / LDAP logins, and of course editing (w/svg)
[02:37] fabricius what is RBAC?
[02:37] laurei role based access control
[02:37] fabricius ahh :-)
[02:39] laurei what is the perspective thing
[02:40] fabricius a perspective is kind of a layer of the website
[02:40] laurei i could just include it I guess, at the very least i could just wrap CURL into an API
[02:40] fabricius you can change most of the preferences for a website
[02:41] fabricius themes modules, etc.
[02:41] laurei nice
[02:41] fabricius module areas
[02:41] laurei but that's based on subdomains etc is it
[02:42] fabricius you could in extreme make a different website out of a perspective, but it is more for workgroups
[02:42] fabricius no - is an option to use a subdomain for a perspective
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[02:43] fabricius tiki-admin.php?page=features
[02:43] fabricius activate a perspective
[02:43] fabricius tiki-edit_perspective.php
[02:43] fabricius create a perspective
[02:44] fabricius tiki-edit_perspective.php?action=edit&id=1&cookietab=3
[02:44] fabricius edit the perspective
[02:44] fabricius search for a permission and drag it in the field above
[02:44] laurei so I've created one called "raw"
[02:45] fabricius then chanche it - for ex, tick or untick, change a title, etc.
[02:45] fabricius /s/chanche/change
[02:45] laurei ok that sounds pretty powerful
[02:46] laurei how does a user choose a perspective
[02:46] laurei or a consumer service in my case
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[02:52] fabricius there is a module you can activate
[02:52] fabricius tiki-admin_modules.php
[02:52] fabricius the name of the module is ...
[02:52] fabricius perspective
[02:52] fabricius :-)
[02:57] fabricius another hint of a community collegue right now: use the fullscreen mode
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[03:00] fabricius but why referencing INTO the project anagement tool?
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[03:08] fabricius or you build something with php -> https://dev.tiki.org/Hello+World
[03:08] fabricius better use Tiki natively
[03:09] fabricius so, have to head on with different stuff
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[04:13] laurei fabricius: After all the work put into creating and updating a wiki, I'd just really love to use the information in other websites, and allow others to do the same. Which of these methods would you suggest, or should I just program something up.
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[04:47] fabricius program something up, make it optional, commit it to Tiki as deactivated by default
[04:47] fabricius <- laurei
[04:49] fabricius if you want to commit some embedding code creating thing for Tiki
[04:51] fabricius or program something for the other software, if you do not want to make the content public
[04:53] fabricius so kind of a "bridge" that takes the data from the Tiki database and publishes in the project management tool
[04:54] fabricius you could think about XMLRPC, which is used in Tiuki
[04:54] fabricius in Tiki for Intertiki
[04:56] fabricius anyway, i do not really understand the point -> if you love to use the information "in other websites" just provide links to your Tiki website and create an area for each project - either with limited access or open
[05:19] laurei fabricius: was thinking JSON would really fit what we are doing
[05:47] fabricius cool
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[09:39] xavi-mobile Polom
[09:40] xavi-mobile Kussmaul still around?
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[20:46] xavi-mobile kussmaul ?
[20:46] xavi-mobile Still looking for a "ceremony" master?
[20:47] kussmaul xavi-mobile: yes, please!
[20:47] xavi-mobile :-)
[20:48] * xavi-mobile puts the ceremony hat on
[20:49] kussmaul kussmaul hopes I'm dressed appropriately :-)
[20:49] xavi-mobile So, you just need to answer a few questions o
[20:50] xavi-mobile Questipn 1, just by curiosity :-): where are you from?
[20:50] kussmaul Bethlehem, PA, USA
[20:51] xavi-mobile Wohoo, never been there, but nice to see more coders from usa
[20:52] xavi-mobile Question2: have you read and understood the 3 rules?
[20:52] kussmaul not far from Philadelphia and NYC
[20:52] kussmaul yes, I understand the 3 rules
[20:53] xavi-mobile Question 3: what's you sf.net username?
[20:54] kussmaul sf username is kussmaul
[20:54] kussmaul I try to be consistent :-)
[20:56] xavi-mobile :-)
[20:56] xavi-mobile So.... Congratylations, yiu are in!
[20:56] kussmaul thank you!
[20:57] kussmaul now the real work begins, I suppose
[20:58] kussmaul I have a few Qs
[20:58] xavi-mobile Ok
[20:58] xavi-mobile Fire...
[20:58] kussmaul a. is MultiTiki common and reliable, or experimental?
[20:59] xavi-mobile He he, I'm a big fan of multitiki, And using it in production since 2004
[21:00] xavi-mobile So fairly reliable, as you can imagine
[21:00] xavi-mobile Common? It depends
[21:01] xavi-mobile Some of us use it a lot (you save space for many projects)
[21:01] kussmaul b. do tiki developers typically use stable releases for production sites, and SVN trunk for dev & testing, or is the trunk stable enough for production?
[21:02] xavi-mobile Some other devs prefer trim, for instance
[21:02] kussmaul reliable is good - I've used shared code for drupal and moinmoin sites and liked it
[21:03] xavi-mobile B1 is the answer to b
[21:04] xavi-mobile Trunk for production??? That's probably a recent rare edge case
[21:04] kussmaul c. how often have students or teams in classes contributed to tiki - I may do this later on
[21:04] xavi-mobile Imho, not common at all
[21:05] xavi-mobile C:: very seldom, afaik, even if it has happened in the early days, and recently again
[21:06] kussmaul stable for production makes sense, but then not many people are actively using the trunk
[21:07] xavi-mobile Btw, somewhat related, I guess. Have you seen http://edu.tiki.org ?
[21:07] kussmaul no, I haven't, but will check it out
[21:08] kussmaul for c, I teach a project based software engineering course and I usually have a few assignments where students study and then propose fixes/enhancements to a FOSS project
[21:08] xavi-mobile Not many but important companies in the Tikiverse  such as Citadel Rock, in Canada , started doing this recently
[21:09] xavi-mobile And imho, trunk seems much more usable in the last months
[21:10] xavi-mobile Projects with your students: nice! :-)
[21:11] xavi-mobile You'll like the workspaces-ui then!
[21:12] fabricius hi kussmund
[21:12] xavi-mobile And hopefully your students might even add other tiki objects to it
[21:13] xavi-mobile http://doc.tiki.org/Workspaces-ui
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[21:14] fabricius I use SVN_Branch (9 and 11) for nearly every project atm.
[21:14] fabricius Trunk I would only use for testing or early development of a site, when branching is expected earlier than website release
[21:15] xavi-mobile Oh well, I'm running out of time for today.. Fabricius or marclaporte will be able to answer other questions of yours
[21:15] kussmaul great - thank you very much, xavi
[21:15] xavi-mobile So welcome onboard, and see/read yiu around!
[21:15] xavi-mobile Don't miss the next webinars!
[21:16] xavi-mobile Cheers
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