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[06:41] fabricius polom
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[08:25] rug fabricius, hello,
[08:26] rug I have created six groups, each one was assigned an article
[08:26] rug and each article has a page inside
[08:28] rug I also created 5 menus and one module in the pagetop position where I want the menu to display
[08:29] rug The problem now, How can I link the articles to the menu? or the menus to the module?
[08:29] rug does it have sense?
[08:47] fabricius no
[08:47] fabricius 1st what you mean with article?
[08:48] fabricius are you aware, that "Articles" is an extra feature and that an article is something different than a wiki-page (technically in Tiki)
[08:49] fabricius [on a journalistic point of view - as author - you can write an article and publish it as "article", as "blog-post", as "wiki-page", but we should agree to stick to exact wording according to the specific software we use]
[08:50] fabricius rug, you have two main ways to work that out, what you want to achieve with the menus
[08:50] fabricius I) easy way
[08:50] fabricius II) hard way
[08:52] fabricius I) easy: you need 6 menus and 6 standard modules and only fill in some parameters in the module creation dialogue
[08:53] fabricius II) hard: you need 6 menus and one custom module and some smarty syntax and manually figure out the parameters
[08:53] fabricius => what you want?
[08:54] fabricius btw: I do not have time for the hard way, as I am heading off to Berlin in 3 hours and stay there till Sunday
[08:54] fabricius so ....
[08:54] fabricius rug?
[08:55] rug ok the 1st option
[08:55] fabricius Ok
[08:55] rug is ok
[08:56] fabricius so you have 6 groups - I call them G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, G6
[08:56] rug ok
[08:56] fabricius you have 6 categories - C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, C6
[08:57] rug yes
[08:57] fabricius 6 pages - P1, P2, P3, P4, P5, P6 (wikipages)
[08:57] rug sure.
[08:58] fabricius 6 menus - 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48
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[08:58] fabricius and 6 modules - M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6
[08:58] rug yup
[08:59] rug the question is, maybe i don't understand well the syntax. why having the 6 modules?
[09:00] fabricius all modules are standart module_menu, which you can find in a drop down menu in tiki-admin_modules.php in the very left tab, called assigned modules ... when you click there on "assign new module"
[09:00] rug why can't I put  the six menus into one module?
[09:00] fabricius you can put 6 menus into one module and display it conditional to the category, if you know smarty syntax
[09:01] fabricius that is too advanced for a very brief fast help
[09:01] fabricius I can explain that next week
[09:01] rug ok, let's take the easiest way
[09:01] fabricius just do the standard, which is better to understand the principle
[09:01] fabricius ok
[09:02] fabricius so we have set up all ... if not, you do later
[09:02] fabricius we start with the first workgroup G1
[09:02] rug the remaining are the other modules. I've got only one.
[09:02] fabricius G1 gets the menu 43
[09:02] rug but this can be done later
[09:03] rug ok let's go
[09:03] fabricius menu 43 is applied to module M1
[09:03] fabricius so:
[09:04] fabricius module M1 is set visible for only category C1
[09:04] fabricius (module creation dialogue - 4th tab)
[09:05] fabricius must be one of the first three parameters there
[09:05] fabricius just type in the category Id number into the field besides "category"
[09:05] fabricius the tab is named "visibility"
[09:06] fabricius again: we are in tiki-admin_modules.php
[09:06] fabricius tell me when you hgave that
[09:06] rug ok
[09:08] fabricius you could do the same with the other 5 menus and modules, but you do that later:
[09:08] fabricius 44->M2->C2 / 45->M3->C3 / 46->M4->C4
[09:08] fabricius and so on
[09:08] fabricius back to workgroup G1
[09:08] fabricius you need a wikipage
[09:08] fabricius we take P1
[09:09] fabricius click the edit button
[09:09] fabricius find a wiki editor with about three tabs on the top
[09:09] fabricius 2nd tab is "category" or "categories" or so
[09:10] fabricius there click the tickbox besides "C1"
[09:10] fabricius then back to the first tab
[09:10] fabricius write something like: "this is the landing page of workgroup one"
[09:10] fabricius save the wikipage
[09:11] fabricius if everything is setup alright, you should see the menu 43 horizontally on top of your P1
[09:12] fabricius if you change to another page, you do not see the menu 43
[09:12] fabricius can you please try that and confirm?
[09:12] fabricius 43=>M1=>C1
[09:12] fabricius P1=>C1
[09:14] fabricius The category is the link between the page and the module
[09:14] fabricius the module contains the menu
[09:14] fabricius that's all to make it working in principle
[09:15] fabricius everything else - for ex permissions and limiting to groups - is extra topping
[09:17] rug im setting it, and once done i ll confirm
[09:17] rug thx
[09:22] rug in visibility tab, category is filled by category name?
[09:23] fabricius better category Id
[09:23] fabricius then it stays working, if you one day change the category name
[09:24] fabricius name works, but Id is highly recommended
[09:24] rug ok
[09:27] fabricius I have to hurry up now ... how far you came?
[09:27] fabricius you have 2 or 3 sets of module and menu and page?
[09:28] fabricius 43-M1-P1 / 44-M2-P2 / 45-M3-P3
[09:30] fabricius all categorised
[09:30] fabricius then switch between the pages P1, P2 and P3
[09:30] fabricius you will see, that the menus switch aswell between 43, 44 and 45
[09:31] fabricius I mean, if you have different menu items applied
[09:31] fabricius if not, you wont see it obviously
[09:33] fabricius *brb*
[09:37] rug ok
[09:37] rug 43-m1-p1 are all set
[09:38] rug but I can't see the menus
[09:42] fabricius hmmm
[09:43] fabricius P1=C1 ??
[09:43] fabricius M1=C1 ??
[09:43] fabricius menu is filled with at least one menu item?
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[09:53] xavi-mobile rug check also these documentation pages:
[09:54] xavi-mobile doc.tiki.org/Module+Menu
[09:54] xavi-mobile And doc.tiki.org/Module
[09:56] xavi-mobile I would suggest that you first play in a simple wiki page to get your menu displayed as you would expect for your group of users
[09:58] xavi-mobile rug, in fact I would suggest that you first get it displayed in the page for your admin user. And only then, twrak the permissions to get it displayed to only the group of users you want
[09:59] xavi-mobile rug, permissions in Tiki for a new user tend to be tricky (very flexible and versatile system). Whenever you are at the point to play with permissions to suit your needs
[10:00] xavi-mobile ... read this at least once: doc.tiki.org/Permissions
[10:00] xavi-mobile Cheers
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[15:54] jonnyb polom - anyone about?
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[16:09] jonnyb Has anyone worked out how to have a group that only edit objects categorised for their group, be able to create a new object (page for instance) within that category?
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[17:27] xavi-mobile Polom
[17:28] xavi-mobile jonnyb?
[17:28] jonnyb moloq xavi-mobile
[17:28] xavi-mobile I think I have an answer to your question :-)
[17:28] jonnyb yay, thought you might xavi-mobile
[17:29] jonnyb am just on Skype to Geoff who also has a way to do it
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[17:29] jonnyb there he is, hi eromneg
[17:30] xavi-mobile You can achive that behavior if you make them create new pages through the header in a structure with apropriate perms in the struct homepage
[17:30] jonnyb i was trying that one, but then i just get "You do not have permission to edit this page."
[17:31] xavi-mobile You need to grant perm to edit structures globally plus locally in that structure
[17:31] xavi-mobile Afair, then it works
[17:32] xavi-mobile It shouldn't need to be that way, but...
[17:34] jonnyb hmmm, so they get edit_structure globally? doesn't sound great
[17:34] xavi-mobile Remember there is a pref to force that all pages in the structure be categ. together
[17:35] xavi-mobile Global perm: I agree. You need to remove it for them locally in the othet structures
[17:35] jonnyb hmmm...
[17:36] xavi-mobile I remember I had to use this workaround avfew vetsions ago to achieve that desired behavior
[17:36] jonnyb eromneg's solution is to grant edit globally but force categorisation into caters where only the correct group can edit (was that right?)
[17:37] jonnyb i wasn't intending to use structures (the client doesn't already) but i recall you had done it this way in the past (xavi-mobile)
[17:38] xavi-mobile mmmm, or maybe edit globally was the solution also? It was q while ago, i'm unsure right now....
[17:40] xavi-mobile But I got my students to create new pages within their structures and categs by default, without messing up all the other structures
[17:46] jonnyb hmmm, thinking i should code something better...
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