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[04:29] luciash long time no polom from me :)
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[06:21] luciash chibaguy: hi gary
[06:21] chibaguy hi luci :-)
[06:22] chibaguy How's everything?
[06:56] luciash mostly good :)
[07:16] chibaguy That's good. Same here.
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[14:59] abradley I'm using the categories module. Is it possible to have a new post by a user in X group automatically be assigned Y category?
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[17:23] xavi polom
[17:25] arildb Hi xavi
[17:25] xavi hi arildb
[17:25] xavi I didn't have time to give it another go at the frist 2 screens in the user wizard yet
[17:25] xavi I can invest some hours today
[17:25] xavi if I can't manage to fix it, I'll delete it from trunk tonight
[17:26] xavi to avoid any issues
[17:26] arildb ok
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[18:55] xavi arildb?
[18:55] arildb hi xavi
[18:55] xavi let me see if I understand where I'm stuck
[18:55] xavi I'm at the first screen for user preferences
[18:55] xavi Real Name: (empty)
[18:56] xavi it seems that the value should come by some $_REQUEST value
[18:56] xavi $tikilib->set_user_preference($userwatch, 'realName', $_REQUEST["realName"]);
[18:56] xavi but $_REQUEST shows just 3 values: url, wizard_step and continue
[18:56] arildb yes, it should in the onContinue function. Assuming you have given the field the right id/name
[18:57] xavi in the onContinue of the previous step, right?
[18:57] arildb You are in the onContinue function?
[18:57] arildb well... the wizard first calls the onStartPage for the first page
[18:58] arildb then when the user clicks save and continue, it calls nContinue for the first page, then onStartPage for the second page
[18:58] xavi I'm on the onStartPage of user_preferences_info.php, which is the screen just after the welcome screen
[18:59] arildb checking
[18:59] xavi well, I've edited the files a bit...
[18:59] xavi adding some global variables that where missing, etc.
[19:00] xavi and added some dirty var_dump calls
[19:00] arildb There you have the text field "Real Name" with the html name "realName". You should receive this value in $_REQUEST in the onContinue function for the same page handler
[19:01] xavi in the onContinue of the same php file?
[19:01] arildb always yes
[19:01] xavi mmm
[19:01] xavi I thought onContinue was used after the user clicked at "save and continue"
[19:01] arildb each page handler sets up and processes a single page
[19:01] xavi my initial problem is that the form doesn't show the Real Name which is already in the database
[19:01] arildb If you want to pass values between pages, you must use preferences or some other external value
[19:02] arildb yes, that's correct it is called after, but the wizard engine will call the same page handler to process the data
[19:02] xavi so the form is not fetching the stored values (before any attempt to change them)
[19:02] xavi do you knwo what I mean?
[19:03] arildb No it doesn't. However, if you use {peference=blabla}, it will. SInce the preference "plugin" will do that
[19:03] arildb I hope I know what you mean
[19:05] xavi {preference=blabla}. Mmm, remember they are user preferences, and not site prefs
[19:05] arildb You will receive the values (defined in the corresponding tpl file) in the $_REQUEST variable in the onContinue function for the same page handler
[19:05] arildb right. So, you must do this manually
[19:06] xavi can you make that second screen fetch the stored value for admin (by default it is "System Administrator", as you can see when you visit the tiki-user_preferences.php standard file)
[19:06] arildb That is in onStartPage, load the user prefs and fill the template with values
[19:06] arildb The user can then edit the values
[19:06] arildb Then presses save and continue
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[19:07] arildb The wizard passes the selected values in  $_REQUEST to the onContinue function for the same page handler
[19:08] arildb I am not sure what you mean in yur latest comment
[19:08] arildb However, Having cross-page communication complicates things. As it is now the processing is confined per page. Thus we can reaarange pages without breaking any logic
[19:09] arildb ...almost try...however, detail wizard pages do read the preferences set in previous steps
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[19:09] arildb s/almost try/almost true
[19:11] arildb If you need information from previous pages, you should load the settings from the database, when the next page is started. Thus use the database to "communicate" values. It represents what the user has already chosen
[19:12] xavi I don't know if I need that
[19:13] xavi I just want the first screen of user preferences, to show the values stored already for that user
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[19:28] xavi ok, thanks arildb: first value shown :-)
[19:28] arildb :-)
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[19:37] Jonatura hey
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[20:09] fabricius juhu
[20:18] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r47758 10trunk/ 10lib/wizard/pages/user_preferences_info.php 10templates/wizard/user_preferences_info.tpl * [FIX]Show and save the right values. Thanks arildb
[20:18] arildb xavi: 1 more down. Well dne. Still one to go...maybe you will make it by6 tomorrow?
[20:19] xavi I hope so :-)
[20:19] xavi Otherwie, I'll remove that work-in-progress file
[20:19] xavi otherwise
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[20:30] arildb xavi: You should not use calls like: $access->check_permission('tiki_p_admin_users'); It causes the wizard to stop, if the condition is not met. The wizard should not stop, but handle the conditions, so the user can complete the wizard
[20:42] xavi ok, arildb, I didn't know. Now I do :-)
[20:42] arildb :)
[20:44] arildb xavi: another thing ...."Pick user Avatar" opens a new page so the image can be uploaded. It is best to load this page in a new window/tab, so it can be closed afterwards. It avoid using the "back" button, which doesn't work to well for in the wizard
[20:45] arildb Makes it easier to step through the wizard pages
[20:46] xavi ok
[20:52] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r47759 10trunk/lib/wizard/pages/user_preferences_info.php
[20:52] Tiki-KGB [ENH]Selection of user avatar done in a new window for easier navigation trough the wizard. And checks for complicated cases removed since that is a user wizard viewed just by the user itself (and not by an admin for that user). Thanks arildb
[20:54] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r47760 10trunk/templates/wizard/user_preferences_info.tpl
[20:54] Tiki-KGB [ENH]Oups. Missing tpl file that should have been in r47759 (Select avatar in new window)
[21:00] arildb xavi: I am able to step through the user wizard pages nicely now as a regular user. Didn't try all the settings, but the functionality seems to be almost right
[21:00] arildb Still missing some information to most options though. Can we have information icons on user preferences?
[21:01] xavi icons: no idea
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[21:28] arildb Maybe it's a good idea to add information about how to get support in the the admin wizard. It could mention the dev-mailing list and #tikiwiki @ irc. What do you think?
[21:39] xavi arildb: +1
[21:39] xavi and second screen fixed! :-)
[21:39] xavi commit in prgoress....
[21:39] arildb xavi: well done!
[21:41] xavi uff, give it a go :-)
[21:41] xavi there is one thing that I didn't seem to get properly, it seems, at least. WHich is the extra langs that the user speaks
[21:41] xavi I did set them through tiki-user_preferences.php, and I couldn't retrieve them through the user wizard, it seems
[21:42] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r47764 10trunk/lib/wizard/pages/user_preferences_info.php * [ENH]Breadcrumbs are not used here
[21:42] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r47765 10trunk/ 10lib/wizard/pages/user_preferences_params.php 10templates/wizard/user_preferences_params.tpl * [FIX]Show and save the right values. Thanks arildb
[21:42] xavi anyway, it's an advanced feature, so if't not easy to fix for you, I can remove that line from the user wizard
[21:44] arildb The user wizard may have reached a FIX level, which can enable it to be a part of Tiki12. I also like fabricius idea of backporting it, if it is not ready for the initial 12.0 release.
[21:45] arildb xavi: Any thoughts on the trigger mechanism for the user wizard?
[21:46] arildb ... and your thoughts on having it in 12.0 too
[21:48] xavi unsure about trigger mechanisms
[21:49] xavi I would let it stay in Tiki12, without triger mechanism or with a soft trigger mechanism (an entry in the main tiki menu on the side column?)
[21:50] xavi or a new user module, that can be removed easily, with a link to the user wizard?
[21:50] fabricius xavi, arildb with "trigger mechanism" do you mean a link to the wizard?
[21:50] xavi or some remarksbox at the topbar zone for users, until they click at cancel or complete it once at least, and click at close (and don't open again)
[21:50] xavi ?
[21:51] xavi anyway, I'm reaching the end of my day
[21:51] arildb yes, a soft trigger is certainly best at this point. The menu in the side column is an admin menu, though maybe this is enough to make admins aware that this exists, and allow them to integate this link somewhere else if the admin menu is hidden
[21:51] fabricius +1 arildb
[21:51] arildb With trigger mechanism, I mean either a link or code trigger which opens the user wizard
[21:51] xavi the minimum would be to stay "as is", proof of concept to be used with a trigger mechanism in 12.1 ?
[21:52] arildb yes
[21:52] fabricius if a link to it starts the wizard, does the wizard has a button to close/stop it?
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[21:52] arildb Maybe you should send an email to the dev-list explaing the current status and the thoughts on how it should evolve?
[21:52] fabricius then I think that could be enough
[21:52] xavi fabricius: run it and you will see (the is a button at the end)
[21:53] arildb The button to exit the user wizard on the first page should be added
[21:53] xavi ok, I'll send a short email. Can you add that button?
[21:53] fabricius I have a 2 day old Tiki12 running - do I need to svn up?
[21:53] xavi fabricius: yes
[21:53] arildb xavi: I will add the "exit" button
[21:54] fabricius ok, so I svn up and test the wizard - need to leave the house now and do it later
[21:54] xavi fabricius: open it with tiki-wizard_user.php
[21:55] fabricius arildb, xavi: an eit button should be at the top aswell, not only at the bottom - afaik the admin wizard has it on the top aswell
[21:55] fabricius xavi, ok thx
[21:55] arildb fabricius: Yes, it is always at the top, but it can be difficult to spot
[21:55] xavi arildb, and maybe a line in the wiki homepage content :-)
[21:56] arildb xavi: Yes, that would also make the admin aware of its existence
[21:56] xavi First steps: "Complete the user wizard"?
[21:56] xavi admin, and all users that see this default homepage
[21:56] arildb +1 for homepage link
[21:57] xavi mmm, I did run out of time :-/ Link in 12.1 then (I'm writing email)
[21:57] arildb shall I add it, or do we wait for community feedback first?
[21:57] xavi maybe let's wait for feedback first
[21:57] arildb yes
[21:58] fabricius xavi, arild: somehow the way how the user wizard is integrated should be optional to the webmaster/webdeveloper ... a second level link (section level 1) should be included in the menu 42 under "my Tiki" ...
[22:00] fabricius arildb, xavi: if the user wizard stays in Tiki for branching, this link is essential in my point of view
[22:00] arildb fabricius: In "my" installations the Tiki homepage is gone, and the admin menu is hidden from users. Adding a homepage link make the admin aware that a user wizard exists and can add it where it fits in the site. but a link in My Tiki can also be there
[22:04] fabricius arild, xavi - in "my" installations I have removed the admin menu and the quickadmin from all users and I have added a hidden "leftflip" menu with 42 and whois online and the quickadmin button ... I suggest to commit this, as it appears to be very practical, but I would need assistance to create a preference for it (should be optional and deactivated by default)
[22:06] xavi sorry guys, done for the day (urgent housework pending here). email to devel list sent
[22:06] xavi cheers
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[22:06] fabricius arild, xavi: I am not sure, if it would be a good idea to add another default link or module which would have to be deleted by an admin ... anyway every admin does what he/she wants to do with default 42 anyway after installation - a prominent position at the top of the default HomePage instead seems a vey good idea to me
[22:06] fabricius have to go aswell
[22:06] fabricius bye
[22:06] arildb bye
[22:12] Tiki-KGB 03arildb r47766 10trunk/templates/wizard/user_wizard.tpl * [ENH] Add a "large" close button on the first user wizard page
[22:12] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: User Wizard (was Tiki 12 Branch) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49345
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[23:40] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Do not automatically change dropdown to 'other' selection unless there is in fact a value in the field
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