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| Tiki-KGB | 03arildb r47790 10trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/autoToc.js * [FIX] Avoid JS error in AutoTOC. Thanks jonnyb | [14:36] |
| arildb | Hi xavi | [14:40] |
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| arildb | Alain mentioned that the admin wizard steps can be confusing. ... and I guess it can be a bit confusing being "forced" through many with lots of things which may be all new things.
Maybe we should a another "big button" on the first wizard page "Skip detail configuration",which would take the user to the last wizard page, where a profile can be run | [14:44] |
| jonnyb | hi arildb and all - thanks for the autotoc js fix (by why not use jQuery? ;) ) | [14:48] |
| arildb | jonnyb: The code is from jcarter, and I integrated it. I am not aware of similar functions in jquery
I think the current implementation works well | [14:49] |
| jonnyb | yes, it's nice - so is this a 3rd party library? (in which case we shouldn't be changing it)
oh yes, it's the "WTFPL" one :) so it's all not jQuery dependent - i only looked at the diff | [14:50] |
| arildb | WTFPL ilcense, yes :-) No not jquery dependent | [14:52] |
| jonnyb | btw, the jQuery version of that would be: $("#outerToc").css("opacity", 0.5) | [14:52] |
| arildb | sorry...jQuery is used I see ... should change the call? | [14:53] |
| jonnyb | odd - just to use jquery once then ignore it - don't bother unless you want to rewrite the whole thing - i think we have more pressing things to do imho :) | [14:55] |
| arildb | yes, I will leave it | [14:55] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03arildb r47791 10trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/autoToc.js * dos2unix | [15:08] |
| xavi | polom
hi arildb | [15:21] |
| arildb | Hi xavi | [15:21] |
| xavi | reading the irc log....
"Skip detail configuration": good idea, as always | [15:21] |
| arildb | ok...I will wait for the branching which should occur soon | [15:24] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r47792 10trunk/templates/tiki-change_password.tpl
[FIX]i18n of 3 strings in the js part of a tpl file. Thanks luciash and jonnyb for tips on how to fix it. | [15:24] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r47793 10trunk/lang/ca/language.php * [TRA]a few more strings (change pass) | [15:26] |
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| xavi | arildb, in addition, two more suggestions of improvements:
(1) indicate in a first screen (the first? a new second one?) to the new user that he/she is expected to pass the mouse over the info icon to get more information on each setting that is new to him/her. (2) alternatively, tweak the code behind admin wizard so that when we say {preference name=foo} we can add a new param like: {preference name=foo showdesc=1}, and therefore, the description of that feature is automagically displayed in clear text before (or after) the feature name | [15:33] |
| arildb | Maybe hints can be used. I will check a little (later) | [15:36] |
| xavi | regarding (2), I "dislike" reqriting things over and over again, and that's why I suggest always if possible to improve the description of the feature, in the corresponding core php file for teh feature, so that this effort can be reused later anywhere else | [15:36] |
| arildb | yes, I agree | [15:37] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r47794 10trunk/templates/wizard/admin_files.tpl * [FIX]Position of Icon floating over the text and not below | [15:46] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Full time Tiki position in Montréal or Québec city - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49418 | [16:40] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r47795 10trunk/ 03templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_localfiles.tpl 03lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_localfiles.php
[NEW] localfiles plugin: Assist in showing links to files or directories on local drives or shared file servers. Likely to only work fully on IE for Windows based intranets - more work to be done on behaviours for different browser types and security settings. See http://dev.tiki.org/item4534 | [16:46] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03arildb r47796 10trunk/ 10templates/wizard/admin_wizard.tpl 10tiki-wizard_admin.php 10templates/wizard/wizard_bar_admin.tpl 10lib/wizard/pages/admin_wizard.php
[NEW] Add a "Use default preferences" button on the first admin wizard page. Make it easier to avoid stepping through the wizard and only use profiles | [17:14] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Questions about creating plugins - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49419 | [17:21] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r47797 10trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php
[FIX] wysiwyg: Restore the ckeditor html image toolbar item for html wysiwyg (thanks arildb) | [17:34] |
| arildb | jonnyb: great! | [17:34] |
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| jonnyb | arildb: seems to work ok here, i checked normal and both types of wysiwyg but not inline | [17:35] |
| arildb | jonnyb: I will chack a little now | [17:36] |
| jonnyb | still having trouble with toolbars admin though, see mail on devlist
thanks :) | [17:36] |
| arildb | s/chack/check | [17:36] |
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| arildb | jonnyb: I still get the img plugin for pages in html format (using inline editing)
same in the fullscreen editor too Note: I had elFinder activated .... shouldn't matter, or? | [17:53] |
| jonnyb | yes, that does different things | [17:55] |
| arildb | ok. I will turn it off and try again | [17:55] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Simplest way to substitute links in a page - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49423
Recent Bug: - Use Zend_Currency for currency field type in trackers - http://dev.tiki.org/item4776 | [18:02] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03nkoth r47798 10trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_files.php * [FIX] Perm checking error: cannot download when have perm
03nkoth r47799 10branches/11.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_files.php * [bp/r47798][FIX] Perm checking error: cannot download when have perm 03nkoth r47800 10branches/9.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_files.php * [bp/r47798][FIX] Perm checking error: cannot download when have perm | [18:04] |
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| arildb | jonnyb: I don't get any html img tags. Only plugins. Testing in FF | [18:10] |
| jonnyb | you added the "new" image tool? | [18:11] |
| arildb | I clicked on "Choose or upload images" | [18:13] |
| jonnyb | last time (around tiki 6 i think) when the tikiimage tool worked in different ways for html or wiki it got very messy and people wanted the "normal" wiki one as an option too, so now they are two separate toolbar items so admins can chose
choose thats the wiki plugin tool you need to go to toolbars admin and add the ckonly Image one too (or instead) | [18:13] |
| arildb | ok...will try
jonnyb: The table plugin in wysiwyg-html is using the wiki-syntax dialog. The CkEditor/html dialog is much better. The "templates" button should go. .... some thoughts | [18:14] |
| jonnyb | yes, too much to do always | [18:15] |
| arildb | yes, I understand.... I have had a look in toolbarslib, but I am pretty lost :-(
jonnyb: html img ok in fullscreen wysiwyg-html. Checking inline... jonnyb: Inline editing just got much nicer!! | [18:18] |
| jonnyb | :) | [18:21] |
| arildb | new html syntax works really well
and resize image "on the go" ...excellent | [18:21] |
| jonnyb: elFinder insert the plugin code in the img dialog's url field, e.g. {img fileId="1" thumb="y" rel="box[g]"}.
...after "Broswe Server" | [18:31] | |
| jonnyb | oh? when i tried it (full page html wysiwyg) it entered "display42" in the url box
probably won't work from elfinder yet though | [18:32] |
| arildb | I tested using inline editing ... testing fullscreen editor...
same thing | [18:33] |
| jonnyb | with elfinder? | [18:34] |
| arildb | elFinder activated, then browsing for files using the new html img editor | [18:34] |
| jonnyb | switch to non-elfinder view - i didn't think that would work yet | [18:34] |
| arildb | El finder seems to find the file, but inserts the plugin code, instead of the file url
right | [18:34] |
| jonnyb | yes, it has no idea about ckeditor yet | [18:35] |
| arildb | The admin wizard sets the Finder view to the defaul file gallery view. Is this ok?
...if El Finder is selected It certainly makes it a lot user friendlier to work with the galleries | [18:35] |
| fabricius | arildb:
I do not agree because elFinder causes issues, when you want to use Tiki for hidden file galleries meaning a certain group that should get access to only one certain file gallery, should not see the other file gallery tiki_p_list_galleries has to be deactivated but then elFinder would not work el Finder lists all galleries or non you still can limit access, but you see them | [18:38] |
| arildb | fabricius: is this fixable?
The case exists with or without the admin wizard maybe make the default view a part of the files wizard page, and keep the standard view as the default? ...but explain that the Finder View must be enabled to have drag and drop? | [18:43] |
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| arildb | fabricius: I am adding the file gallery default view setting to the files wizard page
And will remove the "hard" setting of the default view | [18:50] |
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| jonnyb | hi fabricius - sounds like you should check out user file galleries, have done quite a bit of work on them since 9.x
need a break, mbbl | [18:53] |
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| arildb | fabricius: I have added an option to set ElFinder as the default view. It is initially off. However, I am not quite happy with the result | [19:26] |
| luciash | polom | [19:27] |
| arildb | It adds an option: Set ElFinder as the default file gallery view. If checked, ElFinder is set as the default view. But I feel this is a "bug fix" option. As a user I may have difficulty understanding it. If ElFinder is active, I would expect it to be the default view
Maybe the problem case you mentioned is solved, as jonnyb indicated? arildb thinks to commit or not to commit? | [19:28] |
| luciash | arildb: for newbie better would be something descriptive | [19:31] |
| arildb | luciash: any suggestions? | [19:31] |
| luciash | imho, something like "Use enhanced drag and drop interface for file galleries (ElFinder)" | [19:32] |
| arildb | yes, better
The feature description already says something similar. The problem I have is, if I select ElFinder, (having a similar description) why should I then not chose to activate it? The extra choice seems to add "confusion" | [19:32] |
| luciash | dunno, where else is elfinder used ? if nowhere else, one checkbox should be enough | [19:36] |
| arildb | So the current el finder options read
1) Use elFinder UI 2) Set ElFinder as the default file gallery view. (can be improved) To me it appears better to have only 1 choice. Nr 2 is implicit. | [19:36] |
| luciash | i would make it default and maybe add checkbox a "Use old school file galleries interface" instead (even)
if mature enough as in stable | [19:37] |
| arildb | but then why would I enable ElFinder, if I wanted "old school"? | [19:38] |
| luciash | no, i mean only 1 option which would opt-out of these two preferences
i suppose it is two preferences because in future it can be applied not only to file gals | [19:39] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03alain_desilets r47801 10trunk/lib/ 10(7 files in 5 dirs) * - Marked several broken tests as Skipped. | [19:40] |
| arildb | luciash: I added option #2 just now locally based on comment from fabricius. I haven't committed yet. The commit state has only option 1 and sets the finder view the default gallery view, if elfinder is selected.
If I understand you right, you also prefer the commited state with only option 1, or? | [19:41] |
| luciash | arildb: but what would make people select elfinder first ?
arildb: yes | [19:42] |
| arildb | fabricius: What do you think? | [19:42] |
| fabricius | arildb luciash and jonnyb: I think "my usecase" is not so untypical if we abstrahise it - in specific, I did install a Tiki to provide private downloads to people from different peergroups. On eample peergroup is official people involved in my family-law-case ... | [19:45] |
| arildb | fabricius: Can you confirm that this is a problem when using Tiki 12? | [19:46] |
| fabricius | yes
fresh installation (SVN)+ | [19:46] |
| arildb | right
maybe setup a show instance? | [19:46] |
| fabricius | arildb luciash and jonnyb: the person(s) I give access to a certain file gallery shoiuld not even see which other file galleries I have or IF I have other file galleries ... but if I use the elfinder I HAVE to give the permission tiki_p_list_gallery in global permissions | [19:47] |
| luciash | ah, so elfinder is used elsewhere (plugin ?), then it makes sense to have it a separate option, ok | [19:47] |
| arildb | If this can be solved, would it then be ok to leave it as it is, i.e. Finder view is the default, if ElFinder is selected? | [19:47] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03alain_desilets r47802 03trunk/lib/test/wiki-plugins/TranslationOfTest.php
- Created new plugin TranslationOf, which will assist in the translation of links to pages. | [19:48] |
| fabricius | arildb luciash and jonnyb: BUT instead I only want to give tiki_p_view for a certain filegallery, respectively for a category and categorise the file gallery | [19:48] |
| arildb | fabricius: Do you, or do you plan to, use ElFinder in any of these installations? | [19:48] |
| fabricius | yes!
I use elFinder there, but not for limited external users let me explain the other way around: I give one of theses professionals a login/group without general permissions | [19:48] |
| arildb | This seems to be a bug like thing. Would be good to have a show case. | [19:50] |
| fabricius | but with tiki_p_view_filegallery for a certain gallery
then for this group elFinder does not work - it stays empty with a non-access error message | [19:50] |
| arildb | fabricius: I think I understand the case, but show will have a better memory and easier to communicate. This sounds like something that needs fixing.
You also have the possibility of manually "correcting" the default after the wizard is run. | [19:52] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03alain_desilets r47803 03trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_translationof.php
- Created new plugin TranslationOf, which will assist in the translation of links to pages. | [20:02] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Tiki 12 Branch & Profiles - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49424 | [20:04] |
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| fabricius | arildb: sorry for disappearing - got some guest in the flat | [20:36] |
| arildb | fabricius: I will soon commit a "similar" solution. Looks better | [20:36] |
| fabricius | arildb: I could make up a showcase, but the next days I have no time for that
sorry | [20:37] |
| arildb | ok... option coming soon | [20:37] |
| fabricius | arildb: the problem is always the non-experienced user and the non-tecchie
arildb: I figured out and know now, but my eperience leads me to the focus to make a better user experience for new users, for less experienced users, for professional company users - always a matter of marketing aswell | [20:37] |
| arildb | PLease try the soon-to-be-commited change, when you get time. | [20:39] |
| fabricius | I will svn-up the existing site and eventually I can setup a "show-group" to test the setup
an extension could be to make elFinder effectively usable without tiki_p_list_filegalleries and without global permissions at all arildb luciash jonnyb: the category permissions do not have the option tiki_p_list_galleries ... maybe it would be that simple to add this permission to category permissions? arildb luciash jonnyb: It would be fine, if elFinder lists all directories where the user has permission, but just should not list restricted galleries idea? | [20:40] |
| arildb | are you saying that tiki_p_list_galleries is only a global permission, and that it should be at object level, which will also enable category permissions? | [20:44] |
| fabricius | jup
MAYBE that would fix the problem | [20:45] |
| arildb | I am not sure which implications that would have... | [20:45] |
| fabricius | either
I mean if I have tiki_p_list for a category, I should be able to list those categorised galleries maybe worth to give it a try? | [20:45] |
| arildb | you can try it. Do you know how to change it? | [20:50] |
| fabricius | no, not being a coder
could you help me? got to look into some code before - basic .tpl changes and tried to read some of the .php ... still very much groundworking | [20:51] |
| arildb | search for tiki_p_list_galleries
Let me search for you | [20:51] |
| fabricius | must go afk for just a few minutes | [20:52] |
| arildb | fabricius: I assume you mean the permission tiki_p_list_file_galleries
fabricius: in lib/userslib.php line 3569. It specifies tiki_p_list_file_galleries as a scope = global. Change it to object | [20:55] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03arildb r47804 10trunk/ 10lib/wizard/pages/admin_files_storage.php 10lib/wizard/pages/admin_files.php 10templates/wizard/admin_files_storage.tpl
[MOD] Finder view is no longer auto-activated if elfinder is selected. Added elfinder detail section "Set ElFinder as the default file gallery viewer". Changed because of finder view side effects. Maybe revert when elfinder is more stable 03arildb r47805 10trunk/templates/wizard/admin_files.tpl * [ENH] Less spacing between the sections | [21:06] |
| fabricius | arildb: this did not do the job -> still error: "Invalid backend configuration. Readable volumes not available." | [21:20] |
| arildb | ok
did you clear the cache before the test? | [21:20] |
| fabricius | arildb: but actually the perm DID appear in category perms as you said (after clearing cache) | [21:21] |
| arildb | Maybe you come up with more ideas later... | [21:22] |
| fabricius | in my point of view elFinder can be the default view for groups which can be allowed to list all directories, but not global default
standart Tiki works fine In this respect I see some parallelity between WYSIWYG and elFinder | [21:24] |
| arildb | I committed the admin wizard option, I mentioned. Please take a look when you have time | [21:24] |
| fabricius | I would never recommend wysiwyg as default setting
I do in a few minutes | [21:25] |
| arildb | wysiwyg works well for me | [21:25] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jyhem r47806 10trunk/lib/freetag/freetaglib.php * [FIX] Display freetags items when freetags cloud spans many blogs | [21:26] |
| fabricius | arildb: I svn up now | [21:38] |
| arildb | ok | [21:38] |
| Bsfez | Hi all ! | [21:38] |
| arildb | Hi Bsfez | [21:39] |
| fabricius | arildb: in trunk there is a folde /x - do you know what that is? | [21:39] |
| arildb | No I don't | [21:40] |
| Bsfez | branching is starting (time to think of a star name) | [21:40] |
| arildb | Beetlejuice? | [21:41] |
| Bsfez | lol | [21:42] |
| arildb | or maybe it's called Betelgeuse :-) | [21:46] |
| fabricius | arildb: you added this option: Set ElFinder as the default file gallery viewer. ? | [21:48] |
| arildb | fabricius: yes
it is no longer done automatically | [21:49] |
| fabricius | I think, a kind of remarksbox could be helpful with a note, that it works only if user can list all file galleries?
Anyway the option is fine - I think it should not be ticked by default do you have any idea how to make elFinder working without global tiki_p_list_.. | [21:50] |
| arildb | It only does that when the finder is the deafult view
fabricius: check with jonnyb | [21:51] |
| fabricius | does what?
ah ok | [21:51] |
| Bsfez | yeah right Arild and it has already been used
return array( 1=>'Spica', // 0.9 2=>'Shaula', // 0.95 3=>'Ras Algheti', // 1.0.x 4=>'Capella', // 1.1.x 5=>'Antares', // 1.2.x 6=>'Pollux', // 1.3.x 7=>'Mira', // 1.4.x 8=>'Regulus', // 1.5.x 9=>'Tau Ceti', // 1.6.x 10=>'Era Carinae', // 1.7.x 11=>'Polaris', // 1.8.x 1=>'Spica', // 0.9 2=>'Shaula', // 0.95 3=>'Ras Algheti', // 1.0.x 14=>'Betelgeuse', // 3.x | [21:54] |
| arildb | polar star?
maybe that's "Polaris"... | [21:57] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03arildb r47807 10trunk/templates/wizard/admin_wizard.tpl * [ENH] Some more spacing between the paragraphs for different user types | [22:18] |
| 03yonixxx r47808 03branches/12.x * [BRANCH] Creation, branches/12.x 0 to 47807 | [22:30] | |
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| 03yonixxx r47809 10branches/12.x/lib/setup/wiki.php * [REL]Preparing 12.x | [22:48] | |
| luciash | were there any star names candidates ? | [22:58] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03alain_desilets r47810 10trunk/lib/ 10multilingual/multilinguallib.php 03test/MultilingualLibTest.php * - Added a method and tests in MultilingualLib, to automatically translate links. | [23:02] |
| 03jonnybradley r47811 10branches/12.x/tests/testfile.txt * [REL] test | [23:08] | |
| arildb | Bsfez: I checked the $profilesLink variable, which was updated during the branching, but I could not find any other references, which means (I assume) that is it never used.
The profiles have been moved to the (last page of) the admin wizard. There the links are hardcoded to tiki-admin.php?profile=&categories%5B%5D=12.x&categories%5B%5D=Featured+profiles&repository=http%3a%2f%2fprofiles.tiki.org%2fprofiles&page=profiles&preloadlist=y&list=List#step2 They all appear the same | [23:08] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r47812 10trunk/tests/testfile.txt 10trunk/lib/setup/wiki.php 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 47807 to 47811 | [23:10] |
| Bsfez | arildb: i saw it wasn't going anywhere on previous version but i preferred to follow the branching process step by step. ^^ | [23:21] |
| arildb | ok | [23:23] |
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