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| Tiki-KGB | 03marclaporte r48289 10branches/12.x/lang/fr/language.php * typo | [00:08] |
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| 03jonnybradley r48290 10(7 files in 6 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 48283 to 48289 | [00:40] | |
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| xavi | polom
luci@irc around ? | [11:53] |
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| xavi | re-polom | [12:19] |
| jonnyb | Thank polom it's Friday
hi xavi | [12:19] |
| xavi | anyone with the ability to change the channel topic?
hi jonny@irc | [12:19] |
| jonnyb | not i, i'm afraid - luciash i think but he's away | [12:20] |
| xavi | ok | [12:20] |
| ricks99 | polom y'all | [12:20] |
| xavi | xavi should learn how to do that (and request perms to be able to do it) | [12:20] |
| jonnyb | hi ricks99 too | [12:20] |
| xavi | hi ricks99 | [12:20] |
| jonnyb | thanks for the comms on the new releases (as always ;) ) | [12:20] |
| ricks99 | thnx to all devs! | [12:20] |
| xavi | :-) | [12:21] |
| ricks99 | hows your weather jonnyb? recovering from stroms? | [12:22] |
| jonnyb | fine thanks | [12:22] |
| ricks99 | good to hear | [12:23] |
| jonnyb | was only a little storm (compared to '87) - mostly it was the weather forecasters covering their backs (after totally missing the 87 hurricane!)
probably the sort of thing you get a couple of time a year :) | [12:23] |
| ricks99 | yup... tho been a very slow hurricane season so far.
ricks99 keeps his fingers crossed | [12:24] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r48291 10branches/12.x/templates/wizard/admin_wizard.tpl
[FIX]Don't break sentences for translation, since in other languages the order of the sentence segments might be different, etc. | [12:36] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r48292 10branches/12.x/templates/wizard/admin_editor_type.tpl
[FIX]Recover missing info with current strings set at this step. I'm still unsure whether 'Raw text' is more meaningful for new users than the former 'Text only' for the non-wysiwyg editor type. | [12:40] |
| jonnyb | xavi: i was wondering about that page of the wizard | [12:44] |
| xavi | go on | [12:44] |
| jonnyb | i think "Raw text" isn't a common (English) expression | [12:44] |
| xavi | any better idea? | [12:44] |
| jonnyb | "Plain text" maybe?
vs Rich | [12:44] |
| xavi | aha... +1 for plain text, or simple text | [12:45] |
| jonnyb | think that's the common pair | [12:45] |
| xavi | the idea is "only non-wysiwyg" vs "wysiwyg" | [12:45] |
| jonnyb | plain better than simple i think | [12:45] |
| xavi | but this needs to be said in common words for non techies | [12:45] |
| jonnyb | indeed - let me svn up and look at the page
(and get more cooffee) ooo :) | [12:45] |
| xavi | ok, feel free to improve, with British English if you prefer | [12:46] |
| jonnyb | what does rick think i wonder? (oh, gone) | [12:46] |
| xavi | I'm ok with USA Eng or UK Eng... | [12:46] |
| jonnyb | should be International English as standard, we can translate :) | [12:47] |
| xavi | :-)
Ok, glad you can recognize International English :-), I'm never sure if I can for sure | [12:47] |
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re-polom y'all | [12:53] |
| jonnyb | re-hi ricks99
xavi and i were discussing the best terminology for "wiki" editor vs "wysiwyg" in non-techie terms i think "plain" vs "rich" is fairly commonly understood here... | [12:56] |
| ricks99 | i like wiki markup vs. wysiwyg. plain and rich aren't very descriptive. | [12:58] |
| xavi | but there is something else: if they choose "wiki", wysiwyg will not be enabled. However, if they choose "wysiwyg", in the next screen they will be able to indicate that wysiwyg is (or not) the default editor, which makes that selection as "wiki" editor by default but with wysiwyg enable forr those with permissions | [12:58] |
| jonnyb | but wysiwyg uses wiki markup | [12:58] |
| xavi | that's why the word "only" or similar should be indicated in the "plain" option | [12:59] |
| jonnyb | so really you're asking "disable wysiwyg" or allow it? | [12:59] |
| xavi | yes, kind of, but for people that don't know what "wysiwyg" is | [12:59] |
| jonnyb | so how about - wysiwyg: disable or configure?
they shouldn't be tiki admins then ;) | [12:59] |
| xavi | he he :-) | [13:00] |
| ricks99 | y. wiki syntax is always an option. it is wysiwyg that is being enalbed/disabled | [13:00] |
| jonnyb | we're not talking about "users" here | [13:00] |
| xavi | anyway, that was the rationale I deduced from the code from arildb | [13:00] |
| jonnyb | exacto ricks99 - disable or configure makes sense here | [13:00] |
| ricks99 | +1 | [13:01] |
| jonnyb | maybe add a not about what wysiwyg means if you think necessary | [13:01] |
| xavi | ok, go ahead if you see it clear, then | [13:01] |
| jonnyb | or even a note
can do, but have about 20 hours of big fixes to do might get to it later ;) | [13:01] |
| xavi | ok, I'll do then, jonnyb, no problem :-) | [13:02] |
| jonnyb | [
oops | [13:02] |
| xavi | :-D | [13:02] |
| jonnyb | ok, side by side translate for me next :) | [13:02] |
| xavi | go, jonny, go! :-)
xavi is very glad jonnyb can fix all those annoying bugs | [13:02] |
| jonnyb | :) | [13:03] |
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Recent Bug: - Auto save: No editorId set when trying to copy-paste from PluginCODE (12.x regression) - http://dev.tiki.org/item4833 Recent Bug: - WYSIWYG Acting Strange - http://dev.tiki.org/item4834 Recent Bug: - Select All should mean select all - http://dev.tiki.org/item4835 New Forum Posts: Bootstrap best practices - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49908 New Forum Posts: Show.tiki.org is broken - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49901 New Forum Posts: I need help with bootstrap.js - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=49898 | [13:03] |
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| xavi | doc.tiki.org veeeeery slow from my end
probably fast from the Western side of the Atlantic? | [13:18] |
| ricks99 | seems ok on my side of the pond | [13:21] |
| luciash | polom | [13:22] |
| ricks99 | but the default tiki.org (aka info.tiki.org) is DEADLY slow
although direct urls (such as info.tiki.org/Get+Tiki work fine) | [13:22] |
| luciash | luciash hopes changi is investigating
xavi: wanted me ? joined #tikiwiki | [13:23] |
| xavi | hi luci@irc. Can you cahnge the topic of the channel, to reflect the new version numbers?
ricks99: to me that the pond makes things slow when information has to cross it | [13:24] |
| Topic | for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - the Free and Open Source Web Application with the most built-in features! Tiki 11.0 (Vega), 10.4, 9.6 & 6.12 LTS is out! Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log) | [13:25] |
| luciash | 13:24 -!- Topic set by marclaporte [~marclapor@69-165-165-53.dsl.teksavvy.com] [Mon Oct 7 00:50:07 2013]
13:24 < xavi> hi luci@irc. Can you cahnge the topic of the channel, to reflect the new version numbers? [13:25] [@luciash(+i)] [2:freenode/#tikiwiki(+nt)] [Act: 1,3] [#tikiwiki] /topic | [13:25] |
| xavi | t.o might be in EU? while the other sites are mostly in USA/Canada maybe? | [13:25] |
| Tiki|bot | tw.o or t.o is just a shortcut referring to the official website of the project: http://tiki.org | [13:25] |
| Topic | for #tikiwikiis now Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - the Free and Open Source Web Application with the most built-in features! Tiki 11.1 (Vega), 10.5, 9.7 & 6.13 LTS is out! Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log) | [13:25] |
| xavi | thanks Tiki|bot | [13:25] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r48293 10branches/12.x/templates/wizard/admin_editor_type.tpl
[FIX]Usability. Attempt to clarify in International English what each option does, with simple words for new admins. Thanks jonnyb and ricks99. Feel free to improve anyone the wording while keeping a similar meaning on each option | [13:26] |
| luciash | xavi: i wonder why you keep calling me luci@irc ? :) | [13:26] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb@irc wonders that too | [13:26] |
| xavi | mmm, ah, ok, :-), my fault then. I might have renamed your nick while on irc to this name, and pidgin shows that name for you | [13:27] |
| luciash | lol, ok :) | [13:27] |
| xavi | same for jonnyb@irc. That means that I have your contacts also with jabber or others, probably, and I kept that name in pidgin to use distinct names for your account, all used from the same pidgin | [13:28] |
| luciash | dunno how to make it highlighted to me tho | [13:28] |
| xavi | ok, jonnyb and luciash, renamed in my contact list in my usual program for chats (pidgin) | [13:29] |
| luciash | xavi: much appreciated :) | [13:30] |
| xavi | :-D | [13:30] |
| ricks99 | feel free to rename me something more interesting than "ricks99" :) | [13:31] |
| xavi | :-D :-D | [13:34] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r48294 10branches/12.x/templates/wizard/admin_editor_type.tpl
[FIX]Improve wording to keep naming differently the 'Full Wysiwyg Editor', aside of the 'Inline Wysiwyg Editor'. | [13:36] |
| xavi | s/ricks99/Rick-the-excellent-books-writer | [13:36] |
| ricks99 | lol
ricks99 impressed that he still has the #1, best-selling Tiki book of all-time, on Amazon ;) | [13:36] |
| luciash | lol | [13:37] |
| ricks99 | luciash: you're seeing slowness on info.t.o too, right? but is it ok (speed-wise) if you go directly to a URL (not just the home page)? | [13:38] |
| luciash | ricks99: as i wrote to the admins@t.o, yes | [13:39] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r48295 10branches/12.x/templates/wizard/admin_files.tpl * [FIX]Typo | [13:40] |
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| ricks99 | k. tx | [13:41] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r48296 10branches/12.x/ 10templates/wizard/admin_features.tpl 10lib/prefs/feature.php
[FIX]Usablity. Keep feature descriptions inside the standard description field of the feature, that can be read on mouse over, to keep the interface clean and consistent with the other wizard pages. Feel free to improve descriptions | [13:54] |
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| 03xavidp r48297 10branches/12.x/lang/ca/language.php * A few strings updated | [14:38] | |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03xavidp r48298 10branches/12.x/lang/ca/language.php * User Wizard translated at last (finally!) | [14:56] |
| xavi | c u all
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| Tiki-KGB | 03manivannans r48299 10branches/12.x/styles/layout/design.css
[FIX] Design change has made, to avoid white spacing in Internet Explorer, while editing wikipages. | [15:06] |
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| Jyhem | polom | [15:27] |
| jonnyb | hi Jyhem | [15:28] |
| Jyhem | hi jonnyb
Jyhem waking up :) Just a reminder, folks: securing Tiki is nice, but keeping php up to date is also good. | [15:31] |
| jonnyb | tell the Debian guys ;) | [15:35] |
| Jyhem | Jyhem spent the night recovering a hacked server (/cgi-bin/php5?blabla direct attack with php_fcgi) | [15:35] |
| jonnyb | ew, nasty
very out of date? | [15:35] |
| Jyhem | I'm sure they keep php patched; i was just too lazy to plan downtime on my server, so I was late in updates
probably 6 month-ish. | [15:36] |
| jonnyb | i've found minor php updates have been ok - no down-time (that i've noticed ;) )
but i'm a very poor sys-admin brb | [15:37] |
| Jyhem | I regularly do upgrades until there is a kernel upgrade, then i shy away because of all the parallel unfinished work in various tmux tabs :-( | [15:37] |
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| Jyhem | and then everything slips | [15:38] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r48300 10branches/12.x/ 10styles/layout/design.css 10lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js 10templates/tiki-editpage.tpl
[FIX] edit page: More fixes for full-screen modes, especially side-by-side translation. Still too much being done by javascript, should be more css but works better in more themes now (doesn't look great when loading, that could be improved sometime soon...) | [15:38] |
| jabber | looking for help after upgrading please
upgraded from 5.3 to 6 and images on the pages will not display. However the file gallery is working fine | [15:38] |
| jonnyb | hi jabber | [15:41] |
| Jyhem | That's weird. If you see broken images, can you right-click and see the actual image path? | [15:41] |
| jabber | Hello | [15:41] |
| jonnyb | is it a public site? i'll have a look (start the msg with [off] if you don't want it logged or pm me) | [15:42] |
| jabber | Yes, it is on local host | [15:42] |
| jonnyb | indeed, or right click and open in a new window/tab | [15:42] |
| jabber | K | [15:43] |
| jonnyb | 6 was such a long time ago... | [15:43] |
| Jyhem | I suppose you have done admin→Tiki Cache/Sysadmin → clear all ? | [15:43] |
| jonnyb | wonder if it's an encoding thing - had a few in those day | [15:43] |
| jabber | Yes - cleared cache
I did run the UTF 8 conversion when I did the install I exported the production DB and did a fresh install with 6 | [15:44] |
| ricks99 | are images stored in the db or filesystem? | [15:44] |
| jonnyb | sometimes you get an error message if you go to youtiki.com/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=42 | [15:45] |
| jabber | file sys
I compare URLs from the prod to local host for the page images and they are different for sure I used the new .htaccess file with 6 as instructed | [15:45] |
| Jyhem | is the file sys directory readable by apache? | [15:46] |
| jonnyb | so they're stuff like .../display42? | [15:46] |
| jabber | {img fileId="197" thumb="y" align="center" }
that is in rev 6 <img src="dl197&display&x=120&y=114" width="120" height="114" alt="Image" /> that is rev 5.3 If you click on the broken image link, it will display the image from the gallery | [15:47] |
| jonnyb | you mean the img plugin's not being parsed? - you see in {img fileId="197" thumb="y" align="center" } the browser page source? | [15:49] |
| jabber | yes | [15:49] |
| jonnyb | that's well weird
what's the page (wiki) source? same? or are you using the {picture} or {img} plugin syntax? sorry, {image} not {img} | [15:49] |
| jabber | it looks like img
the page is the same tiki-index.php | [15:51] |
| jonnyb | and it's the same for all images?
check you actually have the file /lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php maybe? | [15:52] |
| jabber | yes, as far as I can tell. Weird that it is just the page thumbs
k | [15:53] |
| Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: - Report on tiki.org sites monitoring - http://dev.tiki.org/item4836 | [15:54] |
| jabber | plugins/wikiplugin_img.php - it's there | [15:55] |
| jonnyb | how so? | [15:55] |
| jabber | I'm going to grab the old file for kicks | [15:57] |
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| jabber | no difference using the older file rev
jonnyb - any other ideas that you can think of to try? | [16:01] |
| jonnyb | so what is the actual difference in the image urls being rendered? | [16:03] |
| jabber | here is 6 - <img src="display179&x=120&y=47" width="120" height="47" alt="Image" />
here is 5.3 - <img src="dl179&display&x=120&y=47" width="120" height="47" alt="Image" /> | [16:05] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03nkoth r48301 10branches/12.x/lib/ 10(5 files) * [FIX] Add dependency to feature_search for things that need unified search | [16:10] |
| jonnyb | ok, i get a "Not Found" for that syntax on my 6.x (e.g. http://localhost/tiki/branches/6.x/display22&x=120&y=47 )
ok, i had my RewriteBase set wrong in my 6.x .htaccess - i need it to be "RewriteBase /tiki/branches/6.x" is your localhost tiki at the server root? if not you need a RewriteBase | [16:12] |
| jabber | Can I add it to .htaccess | [16:15] |
| jonnyb | yes, just before the RewriteRules
there should be a commented out example in there | [16:16] |
| jabber | let me take a look
I see the rules - do just add RewriteBase /tiki/branches/6.x sorry, a bit over my head here. | [16:16] |
| jonnyb | if that's where your tiki is
what's the url to your local tiki? | [16:19] |
| jabber | .htaccess is in the root of my web
localhost/chip | [16:19] |
| jonnyb | so you probably need RewriteBase /chip | [16:20] |
| jabber | K | [16:20] |
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| jabber | I added RewriteBase /chip to .htaccess and it is still the same issue
Is that the correct syntax or does it need "/chip" | [16:25] |
| jonnyb | what's the actual url you are trying?
is it http://localhost/chip/display197&x=120&y=47 | [16:30] |
| jabber | yes
And that pulls the image up just fine | [16:31] |
| jonnyb | ok, so that's fixed htaccess, but still no images in the page?
try turning sefurl off (alternatively) | [16:32] |
| jabber | correct, it is the thumb for that image
I did try sef off, no difference Interesting - In Admin is says new version 5.4 is available, you are running 6.13 I just inserted a new image on the page, no thumb but when I click on the broken link it will pull the image up. | [16:33] |
| jonnyb | that version thing took until 11.1 to fix (hopefully) - it's surprisingly tricky
emptied caches recently? | [16:38] |
| jabber | I can imagine.
yep Where are the image URLs parsed? If sef is off I assume that .htaccess is out of the picture | [16:38] |
| jonnyb | yes, .htaccess is for sefurl rewriting
so are you getting the images opening ok if you "open image in new window" but they're still not there in the page? | [16:44] |
| jabber | Images open that way or if I just click on the broken image link on the page | [16:46] |
| jonnyb | really sounds like a cacheing thing - emptied browser cache recently? | [16:47] |
| jabber | Yes
Tried different browsers as well FF, IE, Chrome | [16:47] |
| I'm going to turn on PHP error reporting | [16:53] | |
| I'm getting a lot of E_NOTICE errors but other than that nothing more
I have sef off and decided to restart Apache and they are appearing on the page now | [16:58] | |
| jonnyb | coo - maybe something cacheing (or something) in apache
still - you good now? | [17:02] |
| jabber | Good for now. I will turn sef back on and see if it still works. Thanks for all your help btw.
have a good weekend! It must be relate to .htacess and the sef, when it is turned back on, I loose the thumbs on the page. | [17:03] |
| jonnyb | weird - hopefully just a local artefact | [17:06] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03nkoth r48302 10branches/12.x/route.php * [FIX] Add error logging on no route found | [17:10] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r48303 10branches/12.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.treetable.php
[FIX] perms: Restore hierarchical display of groups according to inheritance (lost in 11.x treetable update) | [17:14] |
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| Talad | Hi, I need help on tikwiki , I did an upgrade some time ago to Tikiwiki 7.1
and all seemed fine but I didn't check the 'articles' today I checked some articles and those display as completely blank, giving this error on apache error log: PHP Fatal error: Class 'Image' not found in /var/www/html/tikiwiki/tiki-read_article.php on line 111 seems I cannot access any of the articles... :( | [17:15] |
| jonnyb | hi Talad - that doesn't sound good
could be something to do with the php "gd" library? do you see that in your phpinfo? | [17:18] |
| Talad | mmm... good hint
seems not present and we moved to another server recently and we moved to another server recently apt-get install php-gd ? | [17:20] |
| jonnyb | something like that, yes | [17:23] |
| Talad | found
php5-gd jonnyb: totally worked! I see my articles again | [17:24] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03nkoth r48304 10branches/12.x/lib/wiki/wikilib.php * [FIX] Renaming page was not removing old name from index | [17:26] |
| Talad | I can gift you a free account for our project :) www.planeshift.it
if you would ever need anything in game, ping me | [17:26] |
| jonnyb | yay woo! :)
ah sweet, thanks - but i don't really play games, i code for fun! :D my bro-in-law would love it though ;) | [17:27] |
| Talad | we are an open source project and all accounts are free :)
so you can just give him the url | [17:29] |
| jonnyb | will do, thanks :) | [17:30] |
| Talad | many thanks for your help | [17:30] |
| Talad and the broken toolchain
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| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r48305 10branches/12.x/ 10lib/smarty_tiki/function.select_all.php 10lib/smarty_tiki/function.treetable.php 10templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl 10lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js
[FIX] perms: Select hidden groups when clicking select all checkbox, but others (like the huge perms list) only affect the visible ones (re wish4835, thanks marclaporte) | [17:38] |
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[FIX] codemirror 3: Include overlay.js used by some modes, and add a dummy test object to suppress exceptions and fix mode and theme dropdowns | [19:26] | |
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| Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: - Preference filters show weird features choice (regression) - http://dev.tiki.org/item4837 | [19:34] |
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I am on tiki 11.1 and I have notice in my web server logs that I am getting HTTP error 400 for http://lechnology.com/KeeAgent%2bInstallation %2b is the url encoding for +, so it should work | [19:58] |
| jonnyb | hi dlech - what is 400? | [20:00] |
| dlech | Also the referring page is just http://lechnology.com which doesn't actually have any links to that page, so I don't know where it is coming from
johhnyb: error 400 is page not found | [20:00] |
| jonnyb | thought that was 404? | [20:01] |
| dlech | sorry, you are right, I am getting error 404 | [20:03] |
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| jonnyb | ah, dlech - the if the plus is encoded then it means a plus, not a space
are these normal wiki page links? | [20:13] |
| dlech | The problem is that I don't know where the link is coming from. According to the web server logs, it is coming from my home page, but there are not any links for that on my home page.
I suppose it could be coming from another site. | [20:15] |
| jonnyb | some javascript perhaps? | [20:19] |
| dlech | I am looking at the logs some more. It seems all of the offending entries are from Chrome on Windows 8. | [20:22] |
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| Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: - http://nextthemes.tiki.org/tiki-all_languages.php?page=CSS showing wrong template - http://dev.tiki.org/item4838 | [20:34] |
| dlech | And all version 27 (of chrome) at that. And that is the only request from each IP that makes that request. Maybe it is some kind of bot. | [20:39] |
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| jonnyb | dlech: doesn't sound like it's coming from inside tiki anyway? | [21:12] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03jonnybradley r48308 10branches/12.x/lib/ 10core/TikiFilter.php 10core/Tracker/Field/Text.php 03core/TikiFilter/WikiContent.php
[FIX] Make a new TikiFilter for wikicontent and deploy on tracker items text input. Will affect a few other areas such as wiki page saves but seems fine here so far... 03jonnybradley r48309 10branches/12.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/TextArea.php [FIX] trackers: Handle process_save_plugins properly for multilingual fields - surprisingly tricky ;) | [21:56] |
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