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[00:26] PenguinMan98 why oh why did I delete through my sftp and not from the command line...
[00:26] PenguinMan98 *headdesk*
[00:34] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: And other that the caching folders (./templates_c/, ./modules/cache/, ./temp/cache/, ./temp/public/), the new Tiki install would have written over all the files anyway.
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[00:43] PenguinMan98 Yep
[00:57] PenguinMan98 So, I've uploaded the database and installed it
[00:57] PenguinMan98 Will the installer ask me if I'm upgrading?
[00:58] PenguinMan98 Or does the installer not touch the database?
[01:09] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: After you have installed the new tiki programs, you should be directed to the tiki-install.php automatically.  It will ask for your database user and password.  Be sure to select upgrade the database.
[01:15] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: Install the Tiki programs, run setup.sh, then browse to tiki-install.php.
[01:16] PenguinMan98 okies
[01:16] PenguinMan98 ~7000 files left to copy
[01:20] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: Have you used ssh before?  You could have logged in and did a wget for the Tiki 12 zip file, and then uncompressed it on your VPS.  That would be a lot faster than uploading it from your home computer.
[01:20] PenguinMan98 I have maintained servers before but I have very little experience setting them up
[01:25] PenguinMan98 So, my linux knowledege is limited to basic nano / vi use
[01:26] PenguinMan98 And maybe a few filesystem commands
[01:28] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: I have found this small addition to the .bashrc file very useful for navigating around in ssh: .http://jeroenjanssens.com/2013/08/16/quickly-navigate-your-filesystem-from-the-command-line.html
[01:34] PenguinMan98 sweet
[01:34] PenguinMan98 I'll read through it
[01:45] TomJarvis Bye
[01:54] PenguinMan98 later! thanks again
[02:00] PenguinMan98 OK files are done.
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[02:55] PenguinMan98 The requested URL /HomePage was not found on this server.
[02:55] PenguinMan98 probably a fault with my server
[03:02] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: You must have the "Search engine friendly URL" turned on. For that to work, your .htaccess file must be a symbolic link to the _htaccess file.
[03:03] PenguinMan98 I had those turned on on my home server
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[03:04] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: Try /tiki-index.php?page=HomePage to see if that works.
[03:30] PenguinMan98 ok, gimme a sec
[03:30] PenguinMan98 my home life often means I can only do something once in a while
[03:31] PenguinMan98 http://162.249.6.150/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[03:31] PenguinMan98 This is a valid url
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[04:29] PenguinMan98 I turned off Preference feature sefurl
[04:29] PenguinMan98 and then turned it back on
[04:35] PenguinMan98 homepage still not found
[05:14] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: /tiki-index.php?page=HomePage really is the URL of the page. It only looks like you are getting the URL /HomePage
[05:14] TomJarvis There is some regex magic in the .htaccess file. ;-)
[05:14] TomJarvis In the Tiki .htaccess file, there is a RewriteRule that converts the /HomePage to /tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[05:14] TomJarvis RewriteRule ^(.+)$    tiki-index.php?page=$1    [QSA,L]
[05:14] TomJarvis So, for "Search engine friendly URL" to work, your .htaccess file has to be enabled.
[05:14] TomJarvis Note that the Rewrite rule I show above does not work on its own, there are a lot of rewrite rules above it that have to fail their regex match before it falls through to that Rewrite rule.
[05:14] TomJarvis Until you have .htacces working, you can use your site by turning off "Search engine friendly URL".
[05:15] PenguinMan98 I see
[05:15] PenguinMan98 So why didn't this cause issues in Tiki 10?
[05:16] TomJarvis The Tiki .htaccess file must have been working on your home server.
[05:16] PenguinMan98 I wrote my own
[05:16] PenguinMan98 I'm pretty sure
[05:18] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: You still have your home version runnable, I assume?  You can check it.
[05:18] PenguinMan98 yep
[05:18] PenguinMan98 www.mlpnwrp.com is still life
[05:18] PenguinMan98 live*
[05:20] * PenguinMan98 uploads his .htaccess
[05:21] * PenguinMan98 blinks as that seems to have failed to work correctly
[05:21] PenguinMan98 It looks like it made some kind of symbolic link instead
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[05:23] TomJarvis You can either have .htaccess a symbolic link to the _htaccess file, or rename the _htaccess file to .htaccess
[05:24] PenguinMan98 Yeah, but I didn't do that.  I told it to upload mine from my home server
[05:25] PenguinMan98 why didn't that work...
[05:28] PenguinMan98 so somehow, it did create the symbolic link to the _htaccess
[05:28] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/tgOOC3t0CBbs
[05:34] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: Have your tried /tiki-check.php on your new server?
[05:36] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: Which system is that screencast from?  Your current VPS or you home server?
[05:36] PenguinMan98 vps
[05:37] PenguinMan98 that's why I'm confused.
[05:37] PenguinMan98 I didn't do that
[05:37] PenguinMan98 would tiki have done that?
[05:41] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: Yes, installing Tiki 12 would do that.  Here is a quick way to tell if your _htaccess file is working.  Edit it and add a single x as the first line and then save it.  Now if you browse to your site you will get a 500 internal server error if the _htaccess file is active.
[05:42] PenguinMan98 Thing is, I'm not entirely sure that by trying to upload my .htaccess it didn't overwrite the _htaccess due to following that link
[05:44] PenguinMan98 ok
[05:44] PenguinMan98 first: No it didn't overwrite it
[05:44] PenguinMan98 second, adding the x didn't give the server a 500 error
[05:47] TomJarvis If adding the x did not give you the server error, that file is not enabled, so the SEO thing will not work for you.
[06:01] PenguinMan98 Then I need to upload my .htaccess
[06:01] PenguinMan98 But that doesn't work because of that symbolic link
[06:01] PenguinMan98 I'll have to remove it
[06:14] TomJarvis If you do not use the rewrite rules in the tiki htaccess file, then you can not use the "Search engine friendly URL" option.
[06:15] PenguinMan98 I removed the symlink and uploaded my .htaccess
[06:15] PenguinMan98 And homepage still doesn't work
[06:16] PenguinMan98 but all the others still do
[06:16] TomJarvis your centos on the vps might have the .htaccess file disabled.  Check /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf for AllowOverride statement for the public_html or www directory.
[06:18] PenguinMan98 it appears you are correct
[06:18] PenguinMan98 http://screencast.com/t/rFrsedkS35
[06:18] TomJarvis PenguinMan98: I think you are wrong about  the other pages working, all pages requiring the htaccess rewrite are failing for me.
[06:19] PenguinMan98 Well, you would know better than I
[06:21] PenguinMan98 ok, that should enable them
[06:22] PenguinMan98 aaaaaand, it looks like we're working
[06:28] PenguinMan98 wooooooo!
[06:28] PenguinMan98 You are a total genius man
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[13:16] jonnyb polom
[13:16] xavi pom pom :-)
[13:16] xavi I'm looking for fixing a bug in trackercalendar, that displays first day of week always as a Sunday, without respecting the admin choice in the admin panels
[13:17] xavi I've noticed that in lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackercalendar.php, around line 100 or so (tiki 12x), it says: 			'firstDayofWeek' => 0,
[13:18] xavi following how the variable is set up in tiki-calendar_setup.php, I've edited the wikiplugin_trackercalendar.php to be: 			'firstDayofWeek' => $firstDayofWeek,
[13:19] xavi and before that, global $calendarlib; include_once('lib/calendar/calendarlib.php');
[13:19] xavi and 	$firstDayofWeek = $calendarlib->firstDayofWeek();
[13:19] xavi but no way, yet. first day of week shown as Sunday for trackercalendar
[13:21] xavi I've noticed also that in templates/wiki-plugins/trackercalendar.tpl, line 54 says: 			firstDay: data.firstDayofWeek,
[13:22] xavi whereas in templates/tiki-calendar.tpl, line 179: 			firstDay: {{$firstDayofWeek}},
[13:32] xavi Jyhem , you were asking the ther day about TrackerCalendar. There is a tiny bug here also : ^
[13:32] xavi I couldn't find a fix myself (it seems beyond my skills)
[13:37] jonnyb oops, sorry xavi - got distracted
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[14:08] xavi oh well, I'm running out of time for today. See you
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[14:27] Olaf_Stefanov Hi friends, I installed a replacement icon for a new site (t1.aricsa.at). It shows up correctly in Firefox and Chrome, but not in IE9. I cleared cache in my tiki, in my browser, again and again. I even replaced the defualt favicon.ico and favicon.png files on the site, but still keep getting the blue tiki icon in Internet Explorer. Any ideas? I checked all the tiki doc I could find, and irc logs.
[14:29] Olaf_Stefanov Oh, should mention I'm using Tiki version SVN (12.1svn): Sunday 16 of February, 2014 05:30:25 CET - REV 49924 on t1.aricsa.at
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[15:29] jonnyb repolom
[15:29] jonnyb hi Olaf_Stefanov :)
[15:30] jonnyb there is something funny about IE icons... someone committed a bunch of code supposedly to handle that - can't remember who (and it didn't look that good i seem to recall)
[15:39] jonnyb hmm, sf.net seems to be playing up a lot these days... dull
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[15:54] Jyhem_laptop polom
[15:54] jonnyb hi Jyhem_laptop
[15:54] Jyhem_laptop thanks xavi: noted for when the prospect eventually answers me
[15:55] Jyhem_laptop hi jonnyb. How are you doing ? Not underwater, I hope?
[15:55] jonnyb no, i'm fine here thanks - i like on a hill :)
[15:56] Jyhem_laptop Olaf_Stefanov: some guy next to me has access to IE9; Your site shows the default IE9 windows blue favicon (not the Tiki one, even)
[15:57] Jyhem_laptop he says the site's html points the png image as favicon and IE9 can't read pngs. So… no favicon
[15:58] Jyhem_laptop Good planning, jonnyb :) Strangely, here the weather is just unremarkable for the season
[15:58] Jyhem_laptop http://dailyhawk.co.uk/2014/02/14/african-union-we-cannot-ignore-the-plight-of-berkshire-any-longer/
[15:59] Olaf_Stefanov Jyhem_laptop: yes but I have the same image as favicon.ico , how do I set an icon for BOTH IE9 and other browsers?
[15:59] jonnyb hi Olaf_Stefanov
[15:59] jonnyb i think there are some prefs for that...
[16:00] Jyhem_laptop no idea, what about converting the png to the favicon format?
[16:03] Olaf_Stefanov hi again Jyhem and Jonny: you can both try logging in as admin, with ps wd being admin followed by jean-marc's 5 char online name (all lower case, no spec chars)
[16:06] Olaf_Stefanov Jyhem and Jonny: can I send you both the favicon.ico and the favicon.png file (by email) so you can advise?
[16:10] Jyhem_laptop I don't really have access to IE9. I just asked from the guy besides me to fire a virtual machine with IE9 out of curiosity. Now he's gone in a meeting and the VM is switched off anyway :(
[16:11] jonnyb i'm also not near IE9 (or windows generally), sorry
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[16:12] Olaf_Stefanov thanks anyway, Jyhem, and Jonny. It's really too bad there's nothing in the tiki doc about this. If I find something out, I'll try to add it to the documentation.
[16:13] jonnyb i think if you set the favicon mime type to image/vnd.microsoft.icon it might work?
[16:13] Olaf_Stefanov jonnyb: I'm just trying that...
[16:13] jonnyb that's a .ico file apparently
[16:15] jonnyb sf.net not having a good day... http://sourceforge.net/blog/allura-platform-instability/
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[18:40] jcarter hey all! Are there any issues running tiki 12 with PHP 5.5? I'm considering upping my PHP to mess with trunk, but I don't want to cause any problems.
[18:43] jonnyb hi jcarter - seems to be running fine for me locally on php 5.5, but my main external server is still on 5.3 so i'm not testing the (or trunk) much in the Real World
[18:43] jonnyb we haven't had any reports of bad 5.5 things though, so you should be ok
[18:45] jcarter Great, thanks jonnyb! I did a little testing on a VM and it all seemed fine, just wanted to make sure :)
[18:47] jonnyb i think the main thing that's different is the opcode cache, which is now built into php but was an extra (APC) before and i don't think worked properly in 5.4
[18:47] jonnyb i believe trunk has some fixes for this but i'm not sure if they went into 12.x as well...
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[18:55] jcarter Alright. I'll continue tinkering on a vm for a bit, and I'll look a bit more into that, maybe check out what the fixes were and the like. Thanks!
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[20:22] Tiki-KGB (thanks again eromneg)
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