#tikiwiki 2014-03-06,Thu

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PenguinMan98	Hey guys, is there a way to have a bloglist pull from more than one blog?	[00:43]
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TomJarvis	PenguinMan98: Did you see in the doc that a blog Id of -1 displays all blogs? Not that I have ever tried it	[00:52]
PenguinMan98	Yeah. but I'm planning room for many many blogs It'd be nice to put in a comma list of id's and it pulls from those maybe I'll write me up an 'augmented bloglist'	[00:52]
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	problem: Nelson has time mainly at 2:00 UTC and then I will be not at home ... I do not get BBB for Android running ... maybe we use skype?	[02:48]
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Jyhem	Skype is OK. When s this meeting, in plain Paris-Berlin time ? fabricius: ^	[03:04]
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	<Any Admin> Hi, It is a long time that I had no time to work on tiki. I reach yesterday https://info.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=%C3%80%20propos%20de%20Tiki&watch_event=wiki_page_changed&watch_object=%C3%80%20propos%20de%20Tiki&watch_action=add and wish to progress in French translation, but I have not the access to "edit page"	[10:14]
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	Hi, I forgot the "pref" name for tpl start-stop marks. With 12.1x seems inactivated	[11:30]
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Tiki-KGB	03xavidp r50225 10branches/12.x/lib/prefs/page.php * [FIX]Unclear naming of feature	[11:54]
	03xavidp r50226 10branches/12.x/lang/ca/language.php * a few more	[12:06]
Thijs	joined #tikiwiki hi all i have a question and i need your advice :)	[12:13]
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Thijs	I'm part of a SME that currently has around 50 employees, but I can see that grow very easily in the future. I'm looking for a future proof knowledge management wiki that should be easy to use and preferably has LDAP support We're currently using MediaWiki, but I think we need to divert to something with more functionality and something more user-friendly I've been looking at Doku wiki, Twiki and Tiki wiki so far What would be your advice? I like Doku wiki for its ease of use, but i think its functionality is pretty limited So why should I go for tiki wiki? I'd also like to be able to manage and document projects within the wiki	[12:15]
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arildb	Hi Thijs, TikiWiki is pretty rich in built-in functionality, and it has a friendly community....I am sure there is a wiki page somewhere listing "Why Tiki"	[12:32]
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arildb	Hi jonnyb, I would ike to test out the shopping cart you have just updated, but I cannot find any install/startup instructions. Do instructions exist yet?	[12:40]
jonnyb	hi arildb there's a profile http://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart but beware, i'm sort of half way through updating stuff	[12:40]
arildb	so, maybe wait a week or two?	[12:41]
jonnyb	i have some changes to the tpl files that might be needed, but not sure they're really to commit	[12:41]
arildb	...maybe you need help testing...	[12:42]
jonnyb	it could do with some other input :)	[12:42]
arildb	let me know, when you think it's ready for me to attempt an install, and I will test some	[12:42]
jonnyb	let me have a quick look at these tpl's - been a while since i did anything on them there are a couple of fixes i can do now, and will commit the tpl changes, so should be ok to give it a go later (but it is very alpha! :) )	[12:42]
arildb	thanks. TikiKart says it's a "Full profile". I need to integrate this into an existing site. This profile probably cannot be applied directly to the target site, I assume. I will do the initial test on a test site anyhow.	[12:46]
jonnyb	ok arildb - have committed the small changes yes, whatever you do don't apply this (or any untested profile) to a live existing site :)	[12:51]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50227 10branches/12.x/ 10templates/examples/shop/product_item.tpl 10templates/examples/shop/product_list_inner.tpl 10templates/examples/shop/add_to_cart.tpl * [MOD] Some refactoring for simplification of the TikiKart profile	[12:52]
jonnyb	it will certainly need more fixing	[12:52]
arildb	thanks. will try the profile in a fresh Tiki 12. will get back to you afterwards	[12:52]
jonnyb	i just changed it back to alpha state, just in case thanks	[12:52]
arildb	I understand. btw. I am testing on windows 7, IIS, PHP 5.5 and InnoDB jonnyb: I am on a dynamic IP and don't think I can test with PayPal. I still be able to start the cart, or?	[12:53]
xavi	polom hi arildb & jonnyb	[12:57]
jonnyb	sort of - you need a static ip for the notification thing hi xavi	[12:57]
arildb	hi xavi	[12:57]
jonnyb	but you can also use the mini-cart probably a few more changes to the included pages needed - i have a setup here i should update from, but no time this week	[12:57]
xavi	Re TikiKart profile. I reviewed it (like many other profiles) a couple of weeks ago, and I was missing some demo data there to see it working, etc. (like in the former Barter_Market profile, etc)	[12:58]
arildb	mini-cart..that sounds interesting. There is ony planned a few products. No shop	[12:58]
xavi	I honestly thing that we need to include some profile in the Profiles Wizard related to the Cart, whenever it's good to fit in the "demo" section	[12:59]
arildb	xavi: yes, I agree	[12:59]
xavi	TikiKart, Mini-cart: any one to work as a demo. Like what you are looking for nowadays, arildb re: http://dev.tiki.org/Profiles+Wizard	[12:59]
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arildb	xavi: I will try the TikiKart profile first, but mini-cart sounds interesting	[13:00]
xavi	whichever you feel it's the best candidate for what you are looking for, please drop a note at http://dev.tiki.org/Profiles+Wizard so that we can sort out whatever is needed to include it in the Profiles Wizard for 12.2	[13:00]
arildb	xavi: I will get back you after some testing	[13:01]
xavi	I have a few in the "oven", cooking... waiting for 12.1 to be released, so that I can add them to 12.x Like the "Easy GeoBlog", probably a new one for the "Sticky note", etc. andmaybe split the "rotating images in the header" from the "Easy GeoBlog" into a separate mini-profile	[13:01]
arildb	Tiki 12 clean installation...ran the TikiKart profile...back on the home page...h-m-m now what?	[13:05]
Tiki-KGB	03xavidp r50228 10branches/12.x/ 10templates/tiki-user_watches.tpl 10templates/wizard/user_preferences_notifications.tpl [FIX]Add missing tr tags and place the colon inside the translatable string (needed for French translation, as far as I remember, even if I know no French unluckily :-/ )	[13:06]
xavi	arildb: that's part of what I meant :-) and a instructions page is needed, etc.	[13:06]
Thijs	Thanks for your answer arildb :) I've been trying to do as much research on the internet as possible and I think Tiki is the way to go for us	[13:07]
arildb	xavi: yes, a "where to next" should be displayed after the profile installation	[13:07]
Tiki-KGB	03xavidp r50229 10branches/12.x/lang/ca/language.php * a few more	[13:08]
arildb	Thijs: give it a try. You can get help here or via the mailing list	[13:08]
jonnyb	definitely it needs an instructions page, but it needs to work better first imho	[13:08]
arildb	went to tiki-admin.php?page=payment. It is not possible to view the PayPal details. Note I did not enter a PayPal Business ID in the profile installer	[13:09]
	jonnyb: What should I do next, to proceed with the cart installation? Add a page with the "Add to cart" plugin? How do I administer products, see sales, etc.?	[13:14]
jonnyb	there should be a page called products	[13:15]
arildb	checking	[13:15]
jonnyb	sorry, can't do this now, maybe try next week/month - it's really not ready i guess	[13:16]
arildb	found the products page and the Products tracker....I will try a little more.	[13:16]
	jonnyb: The products are in either the drink or food category. No tracker for the category settings. not sure where I can change them	[13:21]
jonnyb	admin categories?	[13:21]
arildb	no. product categories in the Products tracker ah, it uses regular categories added a new category, and it appears. good	[13:21]
Trebly	Hi, the pref log_tpl seems not to function anymore in 12.1x ? No effect.	[13:23]
arildb	jonnyb: I think I see how it works now. With some proper product definitions it may be ok (or at least look better). The profile does not seem to be very intrusive. So, it may work for my needs	[13:25]
jonnyb	yes, needs some example products, but that means pictures, file galleries etc... there is one more little thing you need to get the mini-cart working	[13:26]
arildb	The mini-cart...is that a different profile, or a feature/option? ... yes, what do I need	[13:27]
jonnyb	just add this to the list plugins {FORMAT(name="use_minicart")}1{FORMAT}	[13:27]
arildb	list of plugin...you mean in a wiki page?	[13:27]
jonnyb	is very funky :) yes, in products and product	[13:28]
arildb	ok	[13:28]
jonnyb	needs adding to the profile with a parameter	[13:28]
arildb	like this... {FORMAT} {FORMAT(name="stock")}{display name="tracker_field_product_stock" default=""}{FORMAT} {FORMAT(name="use_minicart")}1{FORMAT} {LIST} {GROUP(groups="Admins")}{LIST()} doesn't seem to do anything	[13:29]
jonnyb	yes, that looks about right - wonder if i added a pref for it (can't remember now)	[13:41]
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xavi	hi robertplummer	[16:39]
robertplummer	hi xavi	[16:39]
xavi	arildb (and jonnyb: fyi): I've added a page for instructions with the TikiKart Profile	[16:53]
arildb	xavi: thanks. will check it out later	[16:54]
xavi	@arildb: whatever you learn that needs to be done once the profile is applied, you can put it there to re-use your knowledge ;-): http://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart_instructions_page	[16:54]
arildb	ok	[16:54]
xavi	I checked and the profile nowadays loads that page after profile installation	[16:55]
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Trebly	joined #tikiwiki Hi, do somebody knows why "log_tpl" prefs is no more effective	[17:35]
	in 12.1x > 10.x	[17:41]
	No matter, sorry, firebug option changed, when, how ?... don't thought about it	[17:49]
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xavi	arildb: TikiKart profile nowadays includes 3 sample products with their corresponding images :-)	[18:18]
arildb	xavi: sounds good. I will check it soon	[18:18]
xavi	ok xavi back to other stuff	[18:21]
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Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50230 10branches/12.x/ 10lib/core/Search/Formatter/Plugin/SmartyTemplate.php 10templates/table.tpl * [FIX] list: Hide header row in table template if empty	[18:30]
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lphuberdeau	jonnybradley: that class is not supposed to know about the details of the templates	[18:33]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50231 10(11 files in 8 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50218 to 50230	[18:34]
jonnyb	hi lphuberdeau - oops, really? i thought it made sense next to maxRecords, count, offset etc	[18:34]
lphuberdeau	table is one of any number of templates that can be used, and if you can't resolve the issue from the template for this case, there is no way to believe custom templates could do what they have to without customizing the class	[18:35]
jonnyb	where would be better?	[18:35]
lphuberdeau	result related variables are one thing	[18:35]
jonnyb	i figured it would also be a useful flag to use in custom tpls...	[18:36]
lphuberdeau	the SmartyTemplate class knows nothing about columns, the variables are just generated from the inner input by name	[18:36]
jonnyb	could do it with some horrid smarty capture thing (yuk) hmm, ok - will revert	[18:36]
lphuberdeau	to me, if you don't have columns, you don't have a table	[18:37]
jonnyb	the trouble i see is that the tpl needs to know, so it needs to be assigned to smarty, and smarty doesn't exist until it gets that far	[18:37]
lphuberdeau	you know you can pass additional values from the list plugin right? everything within {OUTPUT() is just data sent to the template	[18:38]
jonnyb	yup, got it (doesn't help with this though, does it?) will redo it in the tpl then... :(	[18:40]
lphuberdeau	you can add some option to ask hiding the header row... {option header=hide or something like that make it template specific	[18:41]
jonnyb	would be better if it just didn't render out empty header rows i think - no need to another param imho	[18:42]
lphuberdeau	sure it's not as smart as checking if you have no label, but it does not open the door to template-specific creep	[18:42]
jonnyb	fair buff :)	[18:43]
lphuberdeau	and it avoids ugly capture constructs	[18:43]
jonnyb	or even "nuff" i was just going to do the same foreach logic but in table.tpl	[18:43]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50232 10branches/12.x/ 10lib/core/Search/Formatter/Plugin/SmartyTemplate.php 10templates/table.tpl Revert r50230: Wrong place for "[FIX] list: Hide header row in table template if empty" (thanks LP)	[18:48]
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Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50233 10branches/12.x/templates/table.tpl [FIX] list: Another go at hiding empty header rows in the table template, avoiding template-specific creep this time 03jonnybradley r50234 10trunk/templates/table.tpl 10trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/Plugin/SmartyTemplate.php 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50230 to 50233	[18:56]
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	03lphuberdeau r50235 10trunk/ 10tiki-payment.php 10lib/payment/paymentlib.php * [MOD] Adding MAC validation to authenticate the return URL	[19:14]
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	03jonnybradley r50237 10branches/12.x/composer.lock [FIX] jcapture: Hopefully a fix for jCapture - composer and svn (and sourceforge plus caching) is extra confusing, seems to work for me locally now... 03jonnybradley r50238 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50233 to 50237	[20:16]
	03jonnybradley r50239 10trunk/lib/jcapture_tiki/tiki-jcapture.js * [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for jCapture 03xavidp r50240 10branches/12.x/lang/ca/language.php * a few more	[20:24]
arildb	xavi: the instructions page comes up nicely after the TikiKart installation! ... now it just needs some proper content.	[20:27]
xavi	:-) and there is some content already in the tracker go to the products page and you'll see it :-) (with images also)	[20:28]
arildb	nice!	[20:29]
xavi	from there, all yours ;-) if you manage to set up some checkout module, or whatever else works with tikikart, just say so, so that we can add that to the profile	[20:29]
arildb	hm-m-m how do I get back to the instructions page?	[20:29]
xavi	he he :-) "Wiki > List pages > Instructions"	[20:30]
arildb	right It's not listed in Last Changes ...I selected the wrong menu item..	[20:30]
xavi	I personally like adding a module "menupage" with links for a profile. there is one that could be reused...	[20:31]
arildb	How could this module work?	[20:32]
xavi	I have no idea of current modules for a shopping cart in tiki	[20:32]
arildb	none of the profile installed pages, are listed in Last changes .... maybe that's ok	[20:32]
xavi	I recently saw the playback of the last webinar, and I saw a nice checkout-like module in the demo this could be reused, or cloned to make it easy for the other profile: http://profiles.tiki.org/Collaborative_Community_Wiki_menupage xavi will add this old profile to the dev page for the "Profile Wizard". It might be useful for others...	[20:32]
arildb	the TikiKart generated pages search and 'searcj fom tpl' show nothing or smarty syntax. Are they needed?	[20:34]
xavi	no idea jonnyb would know, or bernard, I guess	[20:34]
arildb	I am guessing, not implemented/completed yet	[20:36]
jonnyb	hmm? arildb: the search depends on the unified-index - maybe it needs rebuilding (or enabling even)	[20:37]
arildb	probably. A fresh installation. Trying...	[20:38]
jonnyb	the form tpl should show syntax, it's used in the search page custom_search plugin	[20:39]
arildb	it looked syntax like the search page is still empty, after rebuilding the index....it has no content	[20:39]
	xavi and jonnyb, I updated https://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart_instructions_page a little bit.	[20:50]
jonnyb	the search page should have this in it: http://profiles.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=TikiKart_Search_Include&source=0	[20:52]
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Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50241 10trunk/lib/structures/tiki-edit_structure.js [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for structure edit (and fix save button references)	[20:54]
xavi	arildb and jonnyb, there is a naming error in the profile I'll fix it (for the search include page)	[20:54]
arildb_	I just fixed search form tpl typo...different thing	[20:55]
xavi	search works now :-) but wrong info shown	[20:56]
arildb_	xavi: yes, search is good now. Thanks except images missing	[20:57]
Tiki-KGB	03xavidp r50242 10trunk/lang/ca/language.php 10trunk * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50237 to 50240	[21:02]
xavi	ok, nice	[21:03]
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Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50243 10trunk/templates/trackerinput/showtikiorg.tpl * [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for showtikiorg (hard to test, looks ok)	[21:04]
	03jonnybradley r50244 10trunk/ 10(12 files in 9 dirs) * [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for various features, lightly tested 03jonnybradley r50245 10trunk/ 10(7 files in 6 dirs) [FIX] bootstrap: Use tikiModal for some other features (should be all now, testers please report any new problems)	[21:10]
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jonnyb	hi robertplummer	[21:22]
arildb	xavi: All major system changes are now described https://profiles.tiki.org/TikiKart_instructions_page#Instructions still missing description of plugin/module cart...I am not familiar with thiose yet	[21:24]
xavi	ok, thks arildb. I might play with the profile in a few days. Off for tonight. See you all! left #tikiwiki	[21:26]
jonnyb	thanks arildb for triggering stuff on the tikikart - been going as a solo thing for a long time! :) coo, malaria just left the chat room... curious	[21:29]
arildb	jonnyb: I haven't tested all yet, but it looks good so far. I am still not familiar with th UI plugin/module	[21:29]
jonnyb	there's not much to them - the module acts as the cart, collecting items in a session array the plugin adds stuff to it	[21:30]
arildb	wow...lots of cart plugin params	[21:32]
jonnyb	afraid that was me - i just added a bunch, was all quite hard-coded until recently mainly ajax though	[21:33]
arildb	I filled in the ones in bold...hopefully ok qty + edit field appears and the Add to Cart button, but no product description. I added a random product code TST...does that matter?	[21:33]
jonnyb	usually the addtocart plugin is set up from the tracker item info	[21:38]
arildb	ok	[21:38]
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jonnyb	in templates/examples/shop/add_to_cart.tpl hey marclaporte - i think i might have fixed jCapture in 12 (and arildb actually)	[21:39]
arildb	jonnyb: oh...what was the problem...will give it a try	[21:40]
jonnyb	for us the applet wasn't running at all - needed updating by Pavel	[21:41]
arildb	ok	[21:41]
jonnyb	but i didn't manage to get the composer.json thing done properly until today there are just _so_ many caches (browser, java, composer, probably others!)	[21:41]
arildb	hm-m...jcapture locked-up tiki. Nearly clean installation. TikiKart profile applied after pressing "Capture" in the gray area json_encode - Malformed UTF-8 characters, possibly incorrectly encoded	[21:45]
jonnyb	ew	[21:46]
arildb	that the attempt to URL encode raw PNG data	[21:46]
jonnyb	after lots of cache clearing?	[21:46]
arildb	he he...no...clearing now	[21:46]
jonnyb	oh right, you said before odd - i don't get that cos it should only be sending the image url i think there the upload is a form post i thought	[21:47]
arildb	yes, only url sounds right. However, when loading the filename, the whole record is returned. ...maybe you store images in files?	[21:48]
jonnyb	ah, yes	[21:49]
arildb	will try on a clean Tiki 12...only jCapture enabled	[21:49]
jonnyb	you have filegals in database?	[21:49]
arildb	clean Tiki 12	[21:49]
jonnyb	(once ended up with a 4GB+ database, so don't ever do that now)	[21:49]
arildb	all new users will initially use the database for file galleries. Can that be the problem? the png file data, should probably be base64 encoded, or dropped altogether...probably better	[21:50]
jonnyb	yay, got it	[21:51]
arildb	:)	[21:51]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50246 10branches/12.x/lib/core/Services/File/Controller.php [FIX] jcapture: Don't send the image data back when files are stored in the database, causes json encoding to fail and isn't needed anyway. Thanks arildb	[22:04]
arildb	testing	[22:04]
jonnyb	nice - two bugs fixed for the price of one - thanks arildb :)	[22:04]
arildb	:)	[22:04]
jonnyb	found a tiki with hundreds of left over image files in temp the other day, so stuck a breakpoint in the bit i suspected and it just came up :)	[22:05]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50247 10branches/12.x/lib/filegals/filegallib.php [FIX] filegals: Remove the temp file if required, even if no resizing was performed when doing transformImage	[22:06]
jonnyb	ok, think i'm done for a Thursday - more tomorrow	[22:06]
arildb	jcapture works now. Thanks jonnyb	[22:07]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r50248 10trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php 10trunk 10trunk/lib/core/Services/File/Controller.php * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50240 to 50247	[22:08]
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