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[04:02] drsassafras marclaporte: so I read the doc you referenced about where to commit. It looks like the best way to handle this is to roll back the image changes in 13 and apply them to 12.1, if there is no complaints
[04:05] drsassafras and it looks like it's all fine, then they can be applied all the way down to version 9.
[04:06] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r50661 10trunk/templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl * [REF] Bootstrapification of forms.
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[06:43] fabricius drsa
[06:44] fabricius drsassafras: rolling back in 13 and committing to 12.1?
[06:44] fabricius guess that has to do with some autmerge?
[06:44] fabricius automerge
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[07:54] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r50662 10trunk/ 10templates/tiki-calendar_nav.tpl 10templates/tiki-calendar_calmode.tpl 10templates/tiki-calendar.tpl * [REF] Some Bootstrapification.
[07:56] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r50663 10trunk/css/calendar.css * [REF] Removing redundant or obsolete rules.
[08:04] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r50664 10trunk/templates/filter.tpl * [REF] Improved Bootstrap layout.
[08:17] chibaguy I wonder if external CSS files should be loaded before the core CSS files so they can be overridden. Case in point: jtrack.css has "body {font-size, font-family}" rules. I don't know why this script needs to specify rules for body at all. What's a good way to neutralize this?
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[08:40] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r50665 10branches/12.x/ 10templates/wiki-plugins/trackercalendar.tpl 10lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackercalendar.php
[08:40] Tiki-KGB [FIX]Usability fix. Allow to predefine a date for the initial display of the calendar, needed for real use cases when the resources scheduled (rooms booked in a conference, etc) are days, weeks or months ahead of the current date (otherwise the system is not usable for end users  in reality).
[08:40] Tiki-KGB [FIX]Usability Fix. Allow to define the first day of the week in the month view for that tracker calendar (it was hardcoded to be always Sunday).
[08:41] fabricius chibaguy: what do you mean with "external" css files? css of vendor stuff?
[08:41] chibaguy Yes, the files in vendor.
[08:42] fabricius ah, maybe you suggestion makes sense then, cause vendor stuff is not considering Tiki
[08:43] fabricius what's with loading time ... I mean the initial time, until the user sees that something happens on the page and not blöank page alike?
[08:44] fabricius I mean, if we load a lot of vendors stuff before any Tiki core css starts
[08:44] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki13 star naming contest - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51685
[09:04] Tiki-KGB 03xavidp r50666 10branches/12.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackercalendar.php
[09:04] Tiki-KGB [FIx]Usability fix. Remove the hardcoded limit set to 8 p.m. as the maximum hour of day displayed (ToDo: make this a plugin param, with the min hour of day also)
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[09:17] azreen i got problem in tiki installer
[09:28] fabricius ok, tell us more
[09:32] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r50667 10trunk/ 10(6 files in 2 dirs)
[09:32] Tiki-KGB [NEW REF] Less-compiled Bootstrap-based Darkroom theme . Don't edit the CSS file(s) directly; make any changes in the styles/darkroom/*.less files and compile (which PhpStorm does transparently). For info on this method of making Bootstrap themes, see http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2013/03/12/customizing-bootstrap/ .
[09:35] azreen i have install in mycpanel
[09:36] azreen but it show the internal server error
[09:36] azreen if you don't mine, can i have your email support, as i can direct tell you that problem
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[10:34] azreen You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '?' at line 1 Database is not currently up to date! Visit Tiki Installer to resolve this issue. If you have shell (SSH) access, you can also use the following, on the command line, from the root of your Tiki installation: php installer/shell.php
[10:34] azreen could you please help me due to this error
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[11:04] luciash azreen: go to the installer
[11:04] fabricius hi azreen, welcome back ... got back to you too late this morning
[11:05] luciash azreen: then skip to the Upgrade step
[11:06] luciash azreen: then try to perform the upgrade
[11:07] luciash azreen: by "installer" i mean this at the end of your URL: /tiki-install.php
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[11:15] fabricius good morning luciash ;-)
[11:15] fabricius how r u?
[11:16] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki13 star naming contest - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51685
[11:16] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: 12.x - Unable to connect to database from installer - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51668
[11:16] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Improve the notif. messages of (dev.t.o bug) tracker changes - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51664
[11:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki13 star naming contest - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51685
[11:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: 12.x - Unable to connect to database from installer - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51668
[11:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Improve the notif. messages of (dev.t.o bug) tracker changes - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=51664
[11:28] azreen i have skip for upgrade
[11:28] azreen but it still show same error when i go to admin>feature
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[11:58] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - MAke login error handling more uniform  - http://dev.tiki.org/item5183
[12:03] fabricius humm azreen, sorry that I am not continuously in the chat ... testing a specific feature in trunk at the moment
[12:04] fabricius humm your problem ... I reread and think about again
[12:04] fabricius you have a link to the site?
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[12:26] Tiki-KGB 03arildb r50668 10branches/12.x/tiki-login.php
[12:26] Tiki-KGB [FIX] More uniform login error handling. Report errors "inline" with the login module, like for USER_NOT_FOUND.
[12:26] Tiki-KGB The "Login box" still pops on tiki-login.php, which is shown when an error occurs. Ref: http://dev.tiki.org/item5183
[12:28] arildb I am trying to cleanup the login error handling. r50668 makes the error reporting uniform. However, the "Login box" still appears. On a page with no header, the added top "Log-in box" does not look nice.
[12:28] arildb Any ideas how the top "login box" can be removed on tiki-login.php?
[12:42] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50669 10(6 files in 6 dirs)
[12:42] Tiki-KGB [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/12.x 50638 to 50668
[12:42] Tiki-KGB Conflicts fixed on
[12:42] Tiki-KGB templates/tiki-editpage.tpl
[12:42] Tiki-KGB templates/tracker/replace.tpl
[12:42] Tiki-KGB Authors please check
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[13:20] Tiki-KGB 03arildb r50670 10branches/12.x/tiki-login.php * [FIX] Make identical error messages for invalid user and invalid password.
[13:40] drsassafras fabricius: yes, according to the where to merge doc, it looks like committing to 12.1 without rolling back 13 would cause issues with auto merge. I will start doing that.
[13:47] drsassafras chibaguy: I think your idea of vendor CSS rules is smart. It's the only elegant way for the tiki styles to be able to override them. I doubt it will make much of a difference in display time as they are generally download together, unless there is JS loaded in the middle of them.
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[14:35] luciash drsassafras: do not commit in 12.x until 12.1 released please (unless you fix a show-stopper/blocker bug)
[14:36] luciash drsassafras: 12.1alpha was released and only critical fixes shoud go there
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[15:54] drsassafras luciash: I am a little confused as to where image optimization should go. What you say appears to contradict the https://dev.tiki.org/Where+to+commit, where my understanding of it says that minor enhancements and bug fixes can be applied to 9.x and only critical fixes should be applied to 6.x, but you say only critical fixes in the upcoming 12.1..... To
[15:54] drsassafras complicate the matter, lossless image optimization brings no functionality, and does not fix anything functionally. There is not a great chance of revision (unless I make the wrong commits) so the closest place I can put it in is bug fix. Fixes slow load times and google ranking deductions. Help me out here. Does the where to commit document really need such
[15:54] drsassafras severe updating, or am I misunderstanding something here.
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[16:20] Jyhem_laptop does anyone know where $tiki_p_tracker_view_comments is set before it is used in templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.tpl ?
[16:21] Jyhem_laptop If I do echo "……JML DEBUG 02 tiki_p_tracker_view_comments: '$tiki_p_tracker_view_comments' -" .$prefs['tiki_p_tracker_view_comments']. "-<br>\n"; right before $smarty->fetch('wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.tpl'); it is all empty :-(
[16:40] Jyhem_laptop how do I get the value of $tiki_p_tracker_view_comments for tracker 15?
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[20:42] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50671 10branches/12.x/tiki-switch_lang.php * [FIX] lang: Preserve the URL query when switching language
[21:08] luciash drsassafras: we are trying to minimize regressions when release is in alpha or beta and massive changes can create such issues in that "frozen" period (even images - they can appear overly compressed or we can get corrupted images, etc.) - that is why i suggested wait until 12.1 is out - otherwise yes, that is the correct branch of course
[21:10] luciash drsassafras: alpha and beta should be something like preview what you can expect in the soon to be released (hopefuly) final version so there should not be many changes except critical fixes as i wrote
[21:11] luciash drsassafras: if u find it critical fix and you feel it should be part of the final 12.1 release please go on if you are sure nothing will break or complicate things
[21:12] luciash bbl
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[21:34] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r50672 10branches/12.x/tiki-switch_lang.php
[21:34] Tiki-KGB [FIX] lang: Take 2 on preserving the URL query when switching language (regex mysteries)
[21:39] luciash re
[21:57] drsassafras It's not critical. So I guess what you are saying is that it belongs in 13. Perhaps the where to commit document could be updated. I am still a little blurry on what goes where, otherwise I would update it myself.
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[22:30] MarkR Hi, I'm a newbie trying to register with the Forum, but not getting the registration email.
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[23:26] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r50673 10trunk/lib/core/Search/ContentSource/TrackerItemSource.php * [ENH] Index tracker creation date as well