[00:16] lindonb joined #tikiwiki [00:37] lindonb joined #tikiwiki [00:42] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r52406 10trunk/lib/core/Search/Elastic/QueryBuilder.php [00:42] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Make range query using elasticsearch inclusive of upper boundary to be consistent with other engines (but committing only to trunk as not sure if it deserves a backport) [00:54] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r52407 10trunk/lib/core/ 10(8 files in 6 dirs) [00:54] Tiki-KGB [ENH] Allow making use of elasticsearch internal capability of indexing numeric fields for range filtering without padding, and implement for numeric tracker field. [00:58] Tiki-KGB 03lindonb r52408 10trunk/doc/devtools/satis.json [00:58] Tiki-KGB tablesorter: correcting the path didn't seem to work. completely remove then add back later. [00:58] Tiki-KGB 03nkoth r52409 10branches/12.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js [00:58] Tiki-KGB [bp/r52385][FIX] Code plugin should use null codemirror highlighting by default instead of tiki mode [01:09] nelsonko_ joined #tikiwiki [01:30] Tiki-KGB 03lindonb r52410 10trunk/doc/devtools/satis.json * tablesorter: add back version 2.17.7 [04:11] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tablesorter on composer.tiki.org - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53183 [04:12] SkiNut joined #tikiwiki [10:15] Jenser joined #tikiwiki [10:21] Calyp Hi, I've been looking around a bit, and trying to test TikiWiki's graphical editor, but find demo-sites to be messy and confusing so far. I have tried to find sites that actually use TikiWiki to go look at, but find it hard to locate any. Does anyone have a few links/examples of actual users? [10:24] Calyp I basically need a wiki that has a low-as-possible entry level for unfamiliars to use [11:26] arildb joined #tikiwiki [12:02] olinuxx joined #tikiwiki [12:05] olinuxx hi there [12:59] arildb_ joined #tikiwiki [13:18] lindonb joined #tikiwiki [13:38] fabricius hey there [13:39] fabricius polom [13:39] fabricius Calyp hi [13:47] Calyp hi fabricius [13:53] fabricius you need a wiki with a low entry level? [13:53] fabricius Calyp: [13:54] fabricius and you are wondering, wether Tiki could meet your requirements, but [13:54] fabricius you are unshure, if Tiki might be the right choice ... maybe too complicated, maybe the information for evaluation too messy? [13:55] fabricius so, what is your use case? [14:07] dabright joined #tikiwiki [14:13] dabright1 joined #tikiwiki [14:23] dabright joined #tikiwiki [14:27] dabright1 joined #tikiwiki [14:28] XGuarden joined #tikiwiki [14:30] XGuarden hi [14:30] XGuarden 8:30 here =:0) [14:38] nelsonko joined #tikiwiki [14:43] fabricius 14:42 here :-D [14:49] XGuarden hi [15:23] chibaguy joined #tikiwiki [15:23] chibaguy polom [15:44] dabright joined #tikiwiki [15:51] Calyp fabricius: basically, I run a department in a project with a huge turn-over of people, working on various projects, witha completely medieval non-protocol or documenting things. So yeah, markup is out of the question really, it has to be as easy as word processing, to move my collegues over to documenting in a wiki [15:57] fabricius hum Calyp no markup means WYSIWYG ... we have CKE integrated in Tiki as WYSIWYG editor, but I do not like it so much. A promising approach for an alternative would be wikiLingo, but I believe that is not yet good for productive use ... just testing with XGuarden and being frequently in contact with the wikiLingo developer Robert [15:59] XGuarden =:0) [16:02] nelsonko joined #tikiwiki [16:04] XGuarden Curently my page: http://uni-action.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Changement+de+pilotes&no_bl=y [16:04] XGuarden I updated the code [16:04] XGuarden But for unknow reason I get two trouble. [16:05] XGuarden Interline is bigger then before [16:06] XGuarden And the border look like not align [16:10] fabricius XGuarden: please do an F5 [16:10] fabricius (reload page) [16:13] fabricius XGuarden: I reactivated WYSIWYG with (I think so) all previous settings http://uni-action.com/wiki/Changement+de+pilotes and I deactivated wikiLingo http://uni-action.com/wiki/Changement+de+pilotes+wikiLingo [16:13] fabricius Thus the wikiLingo TABS plugin does not work (what is obvious, as this plugin is one of the only few differences between wikiLingo and WikiSyntax [16:18] fabricius just tested both active: WYSIWYG (CKE) and wikiLingo, but I think, that is not a good idea [16:26] XGuarden OK , I see [16:26] XGuarden look fun to me =:0) [16:28] fabricius really? [16:29] fabricius right now swaitching on and off and testing with the wikiLingo version - braking and fixing [16:29] fabricius I will try to get Robert and discuss what is missing to get wikiLingo somehow to betaproduction usable [16:30] lindonb joined #tikiwiki [16:30] dabright joined #tikiwiki [16:34] XGuarden ok [16:46] Calyp fabricius: kudos for the response. We first opted for MediaWiki, but the older wysywyg-ish editor kinda died off, and the new "VisualEitor" is unstable to the point of using nightly builds afaik [16:47] Calyp I find it utterly strange that there just seems to be no good widely adopted true wysiwyg editor in any wiki so far (???) [16:49] Calyp Pardon for posting MediaWiki links here ;) But I think they describe the situation I find myself in pretty good: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Portal/Why [16:50] fabricius Calyp: explenation is easy: for a wiki you need markup / wikisyntax and non-tecchie user need time to adopt and often just tend to refuse <-> thus an editor has to translate (parse) between html and markup, what seems not to be trivial [16:50] * Calyp wishes he could plug in to the matrix and download a lifetime of programming experiences to solv such issues [16:51] fabricius we have no problems with media wiki ... they have different focus, but we are all FOSS and thus kind of one tribe somehow, even as Tiki is our family [16:51] Calyp fabricius: It's funny how no other form of writing documentation "has to" be written in what is essentialy code. [16:55] fabricius Calyp: I had a similar situation about four years ago, where the board of a local NGO wanted desperately WYSIWYG ... I kind of provided WYSIWYG as is in Tiki, did a good bit of in-community testing and finally set the rule: write WikiSyntax!, the CKE will be and stay deactivated, cause I do not have time to regularly go to pages and fix the ugly HTML code [16:56] fabricius I hope, that wikiLingo will become a good alternative, as it seems to be(come) quite stable and compatible to Tikis markup [16:56] fabricius on the other hand, our markup is not difficult and it just runs [17:04] fabricius XGuarden: just chatting with Robert from wikiLingo ... we plan to check the issues from your site in a few hours - need to leave the house and will come back soon [17:06] dabright joined #tikiwiki [17:06] XGuarden ok [17:06] fabricius XGuarden: you seem to be about 6 hours behind my time (east coast US or CAN?) ... maybe we can meet lateron about 3pm / 1500 your time? [17:18] XGuarden Canada quebec [17:19] fabricius Montréal? Ottawa? [17:20] XGuarden Québec city [17:20] XGuarden Montréal time.. [17:21] XGuarden Curently it's 11:21 here [17:25] XGuarden yes it's fine [17:28] XGuarden 3pm is fine [17:29] fabricius XGuarden: before I go: just tested the together.js on your site - awesome! I created a user for Robert, one guest.for.test (for me to check if together works fine enough) and will do one user for myself, as you might use the admin ... then we can collaborate and follow one another thoughout the site, seeing what the others see, including shared editing [17:29] XGuarden ok perfect [17:30] XGuarden what do together.js? lol [17:33] fabricius it is a jQuery plugin developed and published by the mozilla foundation for sharing content ... collaborative editing and training with shared window (actually browser-tab) [17:33] fabricius one user activates and provides the other ones a link [17:34] fabricius provided all are logged in with the same permissions, one can move around the site and the others follow either manually or automatically [17:35] fabricius is together active and all are on the same page, it is even possible to simultaneously edit a wikipage, whilst this specific feature might need a bit enhancement compared to etherpad ... in general and with a bit of discipline it really works fine [17:35] fabricius so, have to go [17:35] fabricius bye [17:57] dabright joined #tikiwiki [18:06] dabright joined #tikiwiki [18:09] dabright1 joined #tikiwiki [18:13] Jyhem_laptop joined #tikiwiki [18:13] Jyhem joined #tikiwiki [18:27] dabright joined #tikiwiki [18:45] aalex joined #tikiwiki [18:58] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [19:28] olinuxx see ya' [20:02] XGuarden hum, I cant save anymore my wiki lol [20:43] XGuarden hum [20:45] dabright joined #tikiwiki [21:10] XGuarden =:0) [21:10] fabricius rehi [21:10] fabricius XGuarden: whazup? not able to save your wiki? [21:10] XGuarden nop [21:10] fabricius hmm [21:10] XGuarden button save did't work [21:10] fabricius ah [21:11] XGuarden proprerty tab too so I gest it's something more general [21:11] fabricius have a link to the page - or all pages? [21:11] fabricius maybe an unclosed div somewhere? [21:11] XGuarden all page [21:11] fabricius ouuuuch [21:11] fabricius checking [21:12] XGuarden I tryed to replace FANCYTABLE, like you told but cant save lol [21:19] fabricius aye aye sir, problem found [21:19] XGuarden lol [21:20] XGuarden comming from? [21:20] fabricius custom module with wikiplugin {together} in pagebottom -> did move to footer and works again. [21:20] fabricius no clue why that interferes [21:26] XGuarden ok funny lol [21:33] XGuarden http://uni-action.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Liste+des+pilotes+pour+changement+pilotes [21:33] XGuarden I create a pag with ouly the list. [21:34] XGuarden Not sure how tu use the thing you told me for replace fancytalbe [22:04] XGuarden Can you remember me the name of the plugin to use to replace fancytable? [22:14] fabricius trackerlist [22:15] fabricius but then you need a tracker also [22:19] fabricius XGuarden: you did install via ftp-download and upload to directory? [22:21] XGuarden nop [22:21] fabricius svn? [22:22] XGuarden I thinking tracker list is just another plugin.. no that? [22:22] fabricius don't see the revision number [22:22] fabricius ah XGuarden you create a tracker, then you add items to a tracker, then you show the items in a wikipage with trackerlist [22:23] fabricius for only few items too much work [22:23] fabricius but the more items come, the more efficient [22:23] XGuarden ok [22:23] fabricius thinking on your drivers and maybe more products ... all in one wikipage? uhhhh. [22:24] fabricius trackers are kind of a database in the database [22:24] XGuarden I want to put the list somewhere else [22:24] XGuarden for clarity [22:24] fabricius where? [22:25] XGuarden in another wiki page hidden to user [22:25] XGuarden this one: http://uni-action.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Liste+des+pilotes+pour+changement+pilotes [22:30] XGuarden {TRACKER(trackerId, fields, action, showtitle, showdesc, showmandatory, embedded, email, view, url)}user-defined text{TRACKER} [22:33] XGuarden oups not the good thing [22:35] XGuarden https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerList look good look like to autorize to create a fancytable with source on another wiki... I think... [22:37] XGuarden Im not sure I can extract the list for put it on another page, what did you think? [22:51] XGuarden I will need to go soon [22:52] fabricius on your site with Robert now ... checking wikiLingo [22:56] XGuarden nice [22:57] XGuarden I need to go dinner in 4 minutes, but feal free to play with the site. I will conect back later today or tomorow morning. [22:58] nelsonko_ joined #tikiwiki [23:33] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Status in object_link - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=53191 [23:44] fabricius XGuarden: are you still there?