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- https://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=54507 [05:47] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Installing tiki-13.1.zip delivers Tiki v 13.0? - https://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=54506 [05:57] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki14 themes - Less and css file naming, please vote - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=54514 [05:57] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Illegal characters in Tracker text fields causes Tiki crash? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=54507 [05:57] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Installing tiki-13.1.zip delivers Tiki v 13.0? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=54506 [07:04] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [07:04] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [07:49] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [08:08] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [08:37] redflo joined #tikiwiki [08:45] gour joined #tikiwiki [08:54] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [09:37] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [09:47] walper joined #tikiwiki [09:48] wolfganga joined #tikiwiki [09:48] wolfganga Hello [09:53] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [09:57] Gwayne joined #tikiwiki [10:07] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [10:22] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [10:26] Gwayne joined #tikiwiki [10:36] redflo joined #tikiwiki [10:49] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [11:48] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: tracker date/time puzzle - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=54522 [11:49] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [11:56] chibaguy joined #tikiwiki [11:56] chibaguy polom [12:05] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [12:05] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [12:17] gour_ joined #tikiwiki [12:48] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: tracker date/time puzzle - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=54522 [12:48] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki14 themes - Less and css file naming, please vote - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=54514 [12:48] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Illegal characters in Tracker text fields causes Tiki crash? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=54507 [12:53] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [12:53] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [12:58] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: tracker date/time puzzle - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=54522 [12:58] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Tiki14 themes - Less and css file naming, please vote - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=54514 [12:58] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Illegal characters in Tracker text fields causes Tiki crash? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=54507 [13:08] gilles hello [13:08] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [13:09] gilles what is the best way to makle my own css with the new Style in TW ? [13:20] chibaguy gilles, Tiki now uses Bootstrap CSS Framework classes, etc., for layout (grid) and page elements, so new Tiki theme style sheets need to basically be a bootstrap.css equivalent (but with your own color and other style information). [13:21] chibaguy New docs are coming soon. (I promise. ;-) ) [13:23] chibaguy There are basically two groups of rules for new Tiki themes. One group is the bootstrap.css equivalent. The second covers things that are outside of Bootstrap, that are "legacy" or unique Tiki things. [13:24] chibaguy If you look in styles/(Some_theme)/less/tiki-selectors.less, you can see some CSS used by that particular theme, that's in addition to the Bootstrap rules. [13:25] gilles ok [13:25] chibaguy So these two groups of rules should be combined some way as the theme stylesheet. [13:26] chibaguy The themes in the Tiki package used Less pre-compiler to put these together, but you can just write CSS directly if you want. [13:26] chibaguy You could try going to getbootstrap.css and to the "customize" link to make a CSS file with your color values, etc. [13:27] chibaguy Then add more rules as needed by the theme. [13:27] gilles I will try to write a CSS with an URL [13:28] chibaguy For your site to use? [13:42] gilles yes [13:49] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [14:05] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [14:05] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [14:19] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [14:27] olinuxx joined #tikiwiki [14:35] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [14:35] MagicFab_ joined #tikiwiki [14:49] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [14:57] gezza joined #tikiwiki [14:57] chibaguy I wonder why registration with pretty tracker complains about empty captcha values even after I turned off captcha and cleared caches. [14:58] chibaguy ... at tiki-register.php. And why the captcha form continues to display in my pretty tracker wiki page. [15:02] leagris joined #tikiwiki [15:06] chibaguy Is it impossible to turn off captcha for Tiki registrations? [15:16] chibaguy Ok, seems to be a site-specific problem for me. [15:20] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [15:21] jonnyb pompompom [15:36] jonnyb ih gezza here too - i was thinking maybe if we do some of this chat about themes in irc others might help? :D [15:40] jonnyb we've been chatting about changing the css filenaming convention back to pre-14 style, as discussed here https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki14#Less_and_CSS_naming_convention - looks like most people are up for it... [15:40] jonnyb last chance to vote coming soon! :) [15:44] gezza changing the names requires both code changes (lib/setup/theme.php, tiki-tc.php plus a few other places) and the renaming of all less and css files in the bundled themes [15:46] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r53480 10branches/experimental/tiki14_themes/lib/setup/theme.php [15:46] Tiki-KGB [FIX] themes: Fall back to the default theme if the selected one is not found (thanks gezza) [15:46] Tiki-KGB Unfortunately the current default, called "default" as set in lib/prefs/theme.php:38 is horrible - TODO, pick a better default theme for Tiki 14 :) [15:46] gezza gary, is it only that the less and css file names need to be changed or is there something else to do for the themes? [15:48] jonnyb gezza: Gary might respond if addressed as "chibaguy" ;) [15:48] gezza ahh, ok :) [15:48] jonnyb there might be some otehr renaming to do if the tiki.css files are included in other css/less files i think [15:49] jonnyb afraid i've not been able to compile less files for months :( [15:50] chibaguy hi, just got out of the shower :) [15:51] jonnyb hi clean chibaguy! [15:51] chibaguy hi jonnyb! [15:52] chibaguy It seems the consensus is to revert to the old way of naming themes, right? [15:53] jonnyb yes, seems to be [15:53] jonnyb it was mainly your and luciash's options i was concerned about (Lindon too) [15:53] chibaguy About gezza's question, basically, yes, I think just the file names need to be changed. [15:54] chibaguy And PhpStorm can be configured to name them however we like. [15:54] jonnyb coolio - my plan is to do it in the experimental branch so we can play with it a bit, but revert before we merge back (around the end of this week) if suddenly loads of objections appear [15:55] arildb joined #tikiwiki [15:55] chibaguy Slightly related, I had a question about the way the theme and options are displayed in the module for selecting. Now there is one select with options like jqui/trontastic, whereas before we had separate selectors. I thought the old way was nicer. [15:56] jonnyb did that in tiki14_themes yesterday [15:57] * chibaguy better svn up. [15:59] chibaguy ah, nice. [16:01] jonnyb just fixed a couple of other bits too [16:01] jonnyb next is improving the upgrade patch (so it deals with theme control upgrades) so don't update just yet [16:02] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r53481 10branches/experimental/ 10tiki14_themes/lib/setup/user_prefs.php 10tiki14_themes/templates/modules/mod-switch_theme.tpl [16:02] Tiki-KGB [FIX] themes: Cope with themes that don't have options, and enable user to use no option properly when selected. [16:03] chibaguy Well, I'm going to bed soon, but I'll test anything I can tomorrow related to themes. [16:03] jonnyb yes please, thanks chibaguy ! [16:05] chibaguy sure. thanks for your fixes, etc. [16:05] gezza jonny: i set up phpstorm a couple of weeks ago to get familiar with less compiling, it was relative easy, this helped o lot: https://dev.tiki.org/Testing+LESS+CSS+with+Tiki [16:07] chibaguy gezza, what operating system are you using? [16:07] jonnyb thank gezza - i really need to get that working again [16:08] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [16:09] gezza i have windows8 [16:09] chibaguy Just asking because for me on Windows it seemed to be pretty easy too, but I think jonnyb is using Mac maybe? [16:12] chibaguy So some differences in the setup. [16:12] jonnyb do you guys use the php less compiler in tiki now? when i last tried that it didn't work [16:13] jonnyb and installing less on mac (sort of bsd unix) seemed weird [16:13] chibaguy No, jonnyb, as for me, I haven't tried that. Only phpstorm. [16:14] gezza i only tried phpstorm [16:14] jonnyb so the less compiler is installed inside phpstorm somehow for you? didn't seem to work for me [16:14] gezza jonny, about r53480: shouldn't $theme_path be initialized in the "else" part for "default"? [16:14] jonnyb ha, yes (oops) [16:17] chibaguy It works from within phpstorm, but maybe was installed separately. [16:19] jonnyb ha ha, gezza - that's why 'default' looked so broken for me! (tested it very badly) [16:19] gezza :) [16:21] chibaguy good night, guys. I'll be back in 8 or 10 hours. ;-) [16:23] MagicFab___ joined #tikiwiki [16:30] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r53482 10branches/experimental/ 10tiki14_themes/lib/theme/themelib.php 10tiki14_themes/lib/setup/theme.php [16:30] Tiki-KGB [FIX] themes: Fix default fallback properly by actually setting $theme_path (thanks again gezza) and fix get_theme_path to not return non-existent paths (and remove unnecessary null params on get_theme_path calls) [16:36] gezza r53481: one case is not working yet: when you set in switch theme module eg: "fivealive-lite" and option "kiwi", than switch to a theme without options (eg: cosmo), than the option still remains in tiki_user_preferences [16:37] gezza when you switch away from cosmo to another theme without option (eg: cerulean), than the pref is removed [16:38] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [16:38] jonnyb ok, thanks gezza - just doing the upgrade thing now... will try that later [16:45] gezza ok, bye for now, gotta go [17:12] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r53483 10branches/experimental/ 10tiki14_themes/lib/setup/theme.php 10tiki14_themes/tiki-setup.php [17:12] Tiki-KGB [FIX] themes: Remove the mysterious jquery_ui_chosen_css pref as if jquery_ui_chosen is enabled it really doesn't work at all well without the css file in any setups i can find. 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It was marked as deprecated in Tiki 11 in favour of Chosen, which is much better (composer change to come) [17:32] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r53487 10trunk/ 10composer.json 10composer.lock [17:32] Tiki-KGB [KIL] Remove selectmenu feature. Part 2, composer fix (some odd changes in the lock file, hope it's ok) [17:43] pqatsi joined #tikiwiki [17:43] gilles hello how can I center logo in, 13.1 I got firced pull-left style .. [17:45] pqatsi Its possible to create automatically a menu with the article structure? [17:45] jonnyb hi gilles and pqatsi [17:46] jonnyb centering a logo should be possible, how much css do you know? [17:47] jonnyb i'm not sure what you mean by "article structure" - you can use wiki page structures in menus but nothing else afaik [17:51] pqatsi jonnyb: actually menus must have to be manually created here [17:51] pqatsi So if I have something like Main:SomeFolder:SomeArticle [17:51] pqatsi I need to manually create every menu entry [17:52] pqatsi And im asking if i can create it someway automatically [17:53] jonnyb sorry, i don't understand - folders of articles? [17:58] pqatsi better example: [17:58] pqatsi WorldHistory:War:FirstWar [17:58] pqatsi WorldHistory:War:SecondWar [17:58] pqatsi WorldHistory:War:AfeganistanWar [17:58] pqatsi should create a main menu like: [17:58] jonnyb are these categories maybe? [17:59] pqatsi Nop [17:59] pqatsi just things from a same subject [17:59] pqatsi another example [17:59] pqatsi Clients:CompanyA:Servers:Server01 [17:59] pqatsi Clients:CompanyA:Servers:Server02 [17:59] pqatsi Clients:CompanyB:Servers:Server01 [17:59] pqatsi Clients:CompanyB:Servers:Server02 [18:00] pqatsi a way to create automatically - the menu for these entries [18:00] jonnyb i just need to know what you mean by "things" [18:00] pqatsi So if i create a Clients:CompanyB:Servers:Server03 or Clients:CompanyC:Servers:Server01, it create automatically the menu entry for this page [18:01] pqatsi Articles [18:01] jonnyb if you mean wiki page structures (see here: http://doc.tiki.org/Structures?structure=HomePage+AdminGuide ) then yes, otherwise, no [18:01] jonnyb i'm not aware that tiki articles work like that, sorry [18:02] pqatsi I'll read this page and try to find if it applies [18:02] pqatsi Thanks! 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