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[02:52] Tiki-KGB [FIX] regression (PHP syntax error on line 35) caused by http://sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/53546 - unable to add/edit fields
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[03:02] Tiki-KGB [FIX] oops, another one: regression (PHP syntax error on line 40) caused by http://sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/53546 - unable to add/edit fields
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[04:42] Tiki-KGB [FIX] forum: Set initial hits value to 0 when creating a new forum so that hit increments work after that. Hit increments didn't seem to always work when starting with a NULL value. This is now consistent with the way new comments are created.
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[04:58] Tiki-KGB [bp/53614][FIX] forum: Set initial hits value to 0 when creating a new forum so that hit increments work after that. Hit increments didn't seem to always work when starting with a NULL value. This is now consistent with the way new comments are created.
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[12:08] Tiki-KGB [MOD] Some visual and loading changes for brosho CSS assistant. This plugin kindof works, altough its source has not been modified since 2010. (https://github.com/mustardamus/brosho-plugin) Maybe for Tiki15 look for something more up-to-date
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[17:28] Tiki-KGB [FIX] profiles: Desanitize the input for the profile_tester (needed for setting custom html and js prefs)
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[18:10] Tiki-KGB [bp/r53623][FIX] profiles: Desanitize the input for the profile_tester (needed for setting custom html and js prefs)
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[18:12] Tiki-KGB [bp/r53625][bp/r53623][FIX] profiles: Desanitize the input for the profile_tester (needed for setting custom html and js prefs)
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[18:56] JulieCoolie Hey jonnyb
[18:56] jonnyb hi JulieCoolie
[18:57] JulieCoolie You mind still helping me with my problem from yesterday?
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[19:02] Samer Hello guys
[19:02] Samer I need some very basic help with tiki.
[19:04] Samer I would like to use tiki to manage the website of different experiments. I would like to manage the work of 3 experiments, where each user can be assigned to one experiment or more
[19:05] Samer The problem is that there are many different names for similar stuff and I don't understand the right tool for the job (categories, workspaces, areas, etc...)
[19:05] Samer Please check my question here: https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=54619&forumId=4
[19:07] Samer Could anyone help please?
[19:08] ricks99 hi Samer. i'm happy to take a look
[19:08] jonnyb sorry JulieCoolie, got distracted, yes will try and help - tracker thing right?
[19:08] Samer Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
[19:08] jonnyb and hi Samer - will have a look
[19:09] Samer Thanks!
[19:10] jonnyb Samer: sounds like a job for http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com to me :)
[19:10] ricks99 Samer: very typical configuration. you need to use categories and groups
[19:10] ricks99 then set the Category permission for category EX1 to only allow access from members of Group 1.
[19:12] Samer How can I set category permissions?
[19:14] jonnyb Samer: it's certinaly not a trivial thing to start off with in tiki, but i'm sure it can be done. you might want to have a look at workspaces too http://doc.tiki.org/Workspace
[19:14] ricks99 simply click the permissions (key icon) for the category. see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/category
[19:15] Samer I looked at workspaces, namespaces, categories and areas and I really, really got confused. The answer ricks99 provided is what I'm looking for... the right tool for the job
[19:16] Samer if this can be accomplished with categories and groups, then perfect! But I just need you to try it to make sure it works! I really appreciate your patience
[19:16] ricks99 can be done with workspaces, too, but cateogry & group perm is pretty simple
[19:17] ricks99 Samer: you may find this useful: http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/tiki-index.php?page=Group+vs+Category+Permissions too
[19:19] ricks99 i also have primer at: twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/How+Permissions+Work
[19:22] Samer If I may ask, I see only that I can control categories general permissions (like join group or remove member), but not the whether a group acesses a category
[19:24] ricks99 no. for category X, you can control which specific groups have access to specific featuers. see example: http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/How+Permissions+Work in the "Category Permissions" section.
[19:25] Samer OK, I'll read this. Please give me some time and I'll be right back.
[19:45] Samer This works! Thank you very much!
[19:45] Samer Can I make an exception for a user to see a wiki page?
[19:46] ricks99 not for a user, but for a group. you can set an object-level (e.g., for a page) permission override
[19:47] ricks99 and if you only want to show/hide portions of a page, you can use the GROUP wiki plugin directly inline
[19:47] Samer Thanks a lot. May I ask other questions about tiki in general?
[19:48] ricks99 sure
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[19:48] Tiki-KGB [REF] icons: Further refactoring of iconsets, so that all the icons available in the chosen set can be used in templates - glyphicons defaults to come soon
[19:48] Samer How can I modify the home page tabs and menus that anonymous people see?
[19:49] Samer They're not supposed to see wiki or forums. I want to make pages specific for them. The wiki and forums are for my groups.
[19:49] ricks99 use group permissions. if you remove the "view" permission from the anonymous group, they won't be able to access the forum
[19:49] ricks99 you can also create custom menus.
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[19:50] Tiki-KGB [REF] icons: Example theme and option icons as demos, possibly should be removed or replaced with better (useful) examples
[19:52] Samer What about the pages? How can I create pages and assign them to menu links?
[19:53] ricks99 See docs on creating menus: http://doc.tiki.org/Menu
[19:54] ricks99 If you're new to Tiki, you might find my beginner's guide useful: http://twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com
[19:54] Samer Does the menu documentation include creating pages?
[19:54] Samer Yes I'm new. Thanks for the books.
[19:55] ricks99 I also have a whole section creating menus: twbasics.tikiforsmarties.com/Creating+a+Menu
[19:55] Samer Just one question. Does creating menus involve creating pages as well?
[19:56] ricks99 not sure i understand your question. typically, a menu item will link to a page
[19:56] Samer Because I asked about creating pages (not wiki pages) and you gave me the menus link. So I thought they're related
[19:57] Samer How do I create a page that's not a wiki page... just a php page?
[19:57] ricks99 what kind of pages are you referring to? HTML page?
[19:57] ricks99 a PHP page? you will need to create PHP functions outside of Tiki
[19:57] Samer Of course that page should include the menus and all the proper framing
[19:58] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r53631 10branches/experimental/tiki14_themes/themes/base_files/iconsets/glyphicons.php * [FIX] icons: Add glyphicons defaults
[19:58] ricks99 i dont think i understand... most pages on a Tiki site are wiki pages
[19:58] Samer Yes. Because we need some special functionality in our work. Like connecting to special servers for data monitoring.
[19:58] ricks99 yes, you can create a menu option that links to an external URL
[19:58] Samer Well not external.
[19:59] ricks99 external = no accessed via Tiki.
[19:59] ricks99 you can create a menu option that links to yourFile.php
[19:59] Samer So let me give an example. If you create a page in a platform like Wordpress, it will create an empty page where (with some plugin) I can insert php code.
[20:00] ricks99 If you want to add a custom PHP function within a Tiki wiki page, you can create a custtom plugin.
[20:00] Samer Such a thing is very useful, because it still holds the same website theme for the page, and you can put in special code for your own purpose
[20:00] Samer So plugins are the only way to do this?
[20:00] ricks99 a Tiki plugin is not the same as in wordpress. it is simply an extention to Tiki wiki syntax
[20:01] Samer OK. I guess I can read about plugins later. This is very premature. What if I just want to create an html page.
[20:01] jonnyb plugins would be a good way to extend your tiki with custom code i think, then you can embed them in a wiki page easily etc
[20:01] ricks99 an HTML page or a wiki page? I'm 99.99% you simply want a wiki page
[20:02] ricks99 I suggest that you walk through the "Smarties" tutorial to get a better idea of what Tiki can do
[20:02] Samer My understanding for wiki is that it's a page with information that goes in an index. What I need is just a page for anonymous people with no reference since it's not an "internal" page
[20:03] ricks99 sure, you can do that, but why not simply create a regular wiki page, and make it visible to anonymous?
[20:03] Samer The problem is that I have to suggest a platform to my boss and I can't read all this now. There's a lot to read. I will read it after deciding to use it (which apparently is the case)
[20:04] jonnyb Samer: everything's optional in tiki, you don't get an index/table of contents unless you want one ;)
[20:04] Samer Well, because it will look somewhat stupid to the group... like 1. How to operate an atomic magnetometer. 2. Homepage
[20:04] ricks99 ?
[20:04] Samer I see! That's very good
[20:04] ricks99 sorry but i don't fully understand
[20:04] Samer The wiki is planned to be like a notebook for us
[20:05] ricks99 if you're still evalating different platforms, i highly recommend using http://www.wikimatrix.org/ to plug in your requirements and find platforms that suit your need
[20:05] Samer so its index is not supposed to include "homepage", for example. Anyway jonny said it doesn't go into the index unless I choose that, so question answer :(
[20:05] Samer :) **
[20:05] jonnyb and with workspaces (which are categories + groups + perspectives) you can show each group just what they need to see
[20:05] ricks99 by "index" do you mean the mysql database?
[20:05] Samer no I mean like a table of contents
[20:05] jonnyb not sure which "index" you're referring to
[20:06] ricks99 you can have (or not) a table of contents on any page
[20:06] Samer Perfect, I got that :)
[20:06] Samer Something occured to me. Since tiki looks so wonderful. Can I import my wordpress page in my tiki website?
[20:07] ricks99 i don't believe there is current a wp to tiki importer
[20:07] ricks99 *currently
[20:07] jonnyb i tihnk i would suggest starting with a small part of what you're after, i'm 99% sure almost everything else is possible in tiki anyway, and if not it can be easily customised to do what you need, just i wouldn't rush into it all in the first session! :)
[20:07] Samer Future plans?
[20:07] Samer Agreed!
[20:07] jonnyb yes, there is a simple wp to tiki converter (Rodrigo wrote it)
[20:07] ricks99 ah!
[20:08] Samer Oh, that's very good to hear!
[20:08] Samer So guys thank you very much! This is super helpful!
[20:08] Samer I'm very grateful
[20:08] jonnyb but it's quite out of date, last time i used it it got about 50/60% of the original
[20:08] ricks99 Thank you google: https://doc.tiki.org/WordPress+importer
[20:08] jonnyb glad to help, sounds like an interesting use case
[20:09] Samer :)
[20:09] Samer Have a nice evening!
[20:09] Samer Ciao!
[20:09] ricks99 bye
[20:09] ricks99 jonnyb: cool... i didn't know about the wp importer
[20:09] ricks99 wish i had!
[20:09] jonnyb :)
[20:10] jonnyb it could do with some updating but basically functional (not very clever with images etc i seem to remember)
[20:10] ricks99 i did a wp to tiki conversion not too long ago... ended up cut/paste :(
[20:10] ricks99 luckily, not too large a site
[20:11] ricks99 now, if i can just get the damn tiki-batch stuff working for my date-based tracker status stuff!
[20:12] jonnyb good luck with that :) food time here...
[20:14] ricks99 cya
[20:28] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r53632 10branches/experimental/tiki14_themes/ 10(5 files in 4 dirs)
[20:28] Tiki-KGB [KIL] Remove redundant layout_section feature.
[20:28] Tiki-KGB Hasn't been connected to anything for a long time and should be done with module visibility, perspectives and/or theme control these days.
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