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[06:41] chibaguy rrr, today phpstorm doesn't want to compile .less files "no output directory is mapped for this file (tiki_base.less)"
[06:42] chibaguy what happened since 12 hours ago? >:^(
[06:43] chibaguy "go to Settings > Project Settings > LESS Compiler" -- which doesn't exist in my setup for some reason.
[06:46] chibaguy a good time to walk the dog
[06:46] chibaguy bbl
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[10:36] gezza hi chibaguy
[10:37] chibaguy hi gezza
[10:38] gezza tiki-color_selector.less has rule for #ajaxLoadingBG and #ajaxLoading, but using there @imagePath results to : "Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found)"
[10:39] gezza imagePath is supposed to be the img directory inside the theme?
[10:40] gezza or is it supposed to be the main img directory of tiki?
[10:44] chibaguy imagePath has to be defined according to the use. It's different for the theme files or for global files.
[10:44] chibaguy There can be more than one image path variable too.
[10:51] chibaguy You can see the path @imagePath: ~"../../../img/"; at the top of the tiki-color_selectors.less file. This is specifically to locate the ajaxLoading images.
[10:52] chibaguy (We've had path mistakes and discussions in the past so this path should be correct now.)
[10:56] gezza it is looking for the file here: http://localhost/tiki14/themes/img/icons/loading-light.gif
[10:56] gezza there is no img directory in themes
[10:57] gezza this is with default bootstrap theme
[10:57] gezza with fivealive i get: http://localhost/tiki14/themes/fivealive-lite/images/loading-light.gif
[10:58] gezza but it is also not there
[10:59] chibaguy um, the order of the files in the .less file that imports files can affect the results of imagePath. It looks like the theme-file-graphics imagePath is being used instead of the path-to-global-images.
[11:00] gezza with amelia, cosmo or darkly I dont get error
[11:01] chibaguy In tiki_base.css, the URL is correct.
[11:03] chibaguy I'll try a little testing here.
[11:03] gezza seems to be only with Default and fivealive-lite
[11:04] gezza quickly changed through most themes and there is no error in chrome console, only for these 2 themes
[11:07] chibaguy Looking at the theme .css files, so far about half seem to have the wrong url. It's due to the order of the files imported by the theme's main .less fie.
[11:07] chibaguy (small sample so maybe it's not half of all themes)
[11:09] chibaguy anyway, I moved @import "../../base_files/less/tiki-color_selectors.less"; down to almost last position in the page so the theme image path value wouldn't be used in place of the one in tiki-color_selectors.less.
[11:10] chibaguy (Actually another solution is to use a specific @imagePathToImg so there's no danger of overwriting. Maybe that's a better solution than depending on import order.
[11:12] chibaguy I could make that change.
[11:14] gezza ok, thanks
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[11:18] chibaguy Ok, I'll commit it as soon as the compiling is done.
[11:27] gezza i am looking at: https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=5591 Do you think for bootstrap we should display <li class="divider"> (http://getbootstrap.com/components/#dropdowns-divider)?
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[11:29] gezza at least when menu is vertical, for horizontal it does not make much sense
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[11:31] chibaguy I haven't really looked at the use case for li class="divider". Is that to put an <hr> in the menu items list, or something?
[11:33] chibaguy Oh, I see (looking at the bootstrap docs page)
[11:33] chibaguy Well, I suppose someone could make a menu that contains that div.
[11:34] chibaguy If they want the separating line. (It'd have to be a manually made menu, maybe using menupage, I guess.)
[11:35] gezza in case bootstrap vertical menu we could produce that for "separator" type menu items
[11:36] gezza your fix for the imagepath is good, thanks!
[11:41] chibaguy thanks, you're welcome.
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[13:48] chibaguy Oops. I committed files before the less compiling was finished (didn't know it'd let me do that), so the real .css file are coming soon. ;-)
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[14:05] gezza chibaguy, i took a look at the menu and commented here: https://dev.tiki.org/item5591#contenttabs_view_tracker_item-2
[14:16] chibaguy menus with a top-level item that has child items followed by another top-level item are normal in Bootstrap, so it's not that Tiki's menus are doing something difficult. At least the error that my report is about.
[14:28] gezza it is just that you have to configure a menu differenty if you want to use it as bootstrap or as cssmenu
[14:30] chibaguy How do you make a bootstrap menu (in tiki's admin-menus) to have a section with children (options) and then another option on the top level?
[14:31] gezza you have to use type section level 0 for that other option in the top level
[14:31] chibaguy Hmm
[14:32] chibaguy No way to fix that?
[14:32] gezza i sent you a mail with a screenshot, better explains it than words :)
[14:34] gezza not sure if it is something to be fixed, maybe just more explanation on how to use
[14:35] chibaguy I got your email, thanks.
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[16:10] wolfganga hello
[16:15] chibaguy_ hi wolfganga
[16:16] wolfganga ;-)
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[16:27] wolfganga 404 on: /themes/img/icons/loading-light.gif, /themes/img/icons/overlay-light.png - are these missing in the locaction or is the css referencing them at a wrong location?
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[16:28] xavi saturdays-poloms
[16:29] xavi wolfganga: sorry, no idea myself
[16:29] gezza hi wolfganga
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[16:30] gezza chibaguy fixed that today
[16:30] wolfganga hi gezza and xavi
[16:30] jonnyb poloms for the weekend
[16:30] xavi hi gezza & jonnyb
[16:30] jonnyb hi xavi and all
[16:30] gezza hi all :)
[16:30] wolfganga hi all :-)
[16:31] wolfganga xavi / gezza / jonny - i am currently looking into the minify isse
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[16:32] * xavi dreams of someone creating a structue handler, so that we can showcase and reuse th epower of structures in profiles for users (Profiles Wizard, etc)
[16:32] gezza where do you get 404 for loading-light.gif and overlay-light.png?
[16:32] gezza are you on latest revision?
[16:32] jonnyb thanks wolfganga - i tihnk it's just that re-minifying the ckeditor js (and some of the others that weren't being minified) will always break, that's why they were excluded afairc
[16:33] wolfganga jonnyb - it seems to be a similar isse we has with the css minifier
[16:33] wolfganga you remeber the regex_callback that failed on older php versions
[16:33] jonnyb i wasn't really following that one, but possibly
[16:33] wolfganga and simply let php die.
[16:34] wolfganga my fix was to update php to 5.5.19 - (5.5.1 failed)
[16:34] jonnyb hard to trap those ones
[16:35] wolfganga basically the performance gain for the loading time comes from "putting all js / css in one file"
[16:35] wolfganga not from minifing - given gzip cpompression is activated on teh server side
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[16:36] wolfganga (So 14requests instead of 50+). in other words:
[16:36] jonnyb if it works then fine, but it was tried before several times and there's something about ckeditor that makes it need to be on it's own (unfriendly ;) )
[16:37] wolfganga When the currently used minifier is troublesome (and it is), we could make the pref "use one file" independant from "minify files"
[16:38] jonnyb but not in 14.x, obviously - that just needs fixing
[16:39] wolfganga i see your point and will fix it.
[16:39] jonnyb thanks :)
[16:40] wolfganga nevertheless - - a minifier must not fail on minified scripts. We minifiy all our stuff - just using other minifier
[16:40] wolfganga i thing we use the yahoo one
[16:41] wolfganga but again - the performance gain come not from minifing, but from the single files option.
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[16:44] jonnyb wolfganga: yes, let's look at other minify options for 15.x - that one was the best around when it was implemented, but that was a long time ago
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[16:49] xavi gezza: newbie question here: if I want to replace the old icons of the Wizards in Tiki14, where/how can get get a list of icons to base the new icon from?
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[16:56] gezza hi xavi! the base iconsets are defined here: /themes/base_files/iconsets/default.php
[16:57] xavi thks gezza. where xcan I see a list of icons to choose from?
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[16:58] xavi or even better: how can I create a new icon, merging the wizard bar wthe cube icon, so get the equivalent icon for the "Profiles Wizard"?
[16:59] gezza default uses font-awesome, you can see icons here: http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/
[16:59] xavi and then, similarly, upgrade wizard merging some sort of upgrade-like icon with the same wizard stick (not wizard "bar", as I said before) to create the corresponding "Upgrade Wizard"?
[16:59] * xavi checking that url
[17:00] gezza currently you cant stack icons on each other
[17:00] gezza you have to create new icons by hand
[17:00] gezza try to find something usefu in the font-awesome set
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[17:02] gezza also you should be aware of legacy.php in that same folder, that is where we keep the reference for the "old" famfamfam and other image icons
[17:02] xavi stack icons on each other: for instance, this "magic". http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/magic/  with....
[17:03] xavi ... with this "arrow-circle-up"  http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/arrow-circle-up/ to imply , combined, the "upgrade Wizrd"?
[17:03] xavi how can I stack those two icons together?
[17:04] xavi or maybe just show those two icons together, one next to the other, somehow?
[17:04] gezza better if you use just the wizard icon and put text after it
[17:04] gezza button with text
[17:04] xavi But then, "PRofiles Wizard" would use the same icon...
[17:04] gezza sorry, i mean button with icon and text
[17:04] xavi and Setup Wizard, etc.
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[17:06] gezza afaik you can not stack icons
[17:06] gezza not sure how it would look if you just put them on each other
[17:06] xavi ok, and what about "create icons by hand" that you said, how can I create some? Svg?
[17:08] xavi do you mean that I just create some png by hand (based on those previous images from font-awesome converted into png or something?)
[17:09] * xavi will try with inkscape, in a similar way to what he did to create the former icons of the Wizards
[17:11] gezza yes, probably inkscape
[17:12] gezza but a reason for font icons is to avoid having image files becasue they generate extra traffic when loading the page, so I would suggest to try to combine that magic font with text
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[17:14] chibaguy_ gezza, icon fonts are sometimes stacked. There are examples at font-awesome's website I believe.
[17:15] gezza yes, http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/examples/#stacked
[17:15] chibaguy_ but not yet in tiki, right?
[17:16] gezza but currently the icon set changes dont do that, probably for Tiki15 we can do that
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[17:17] chibaguy_ I wonder if the theme names in L&F admin could be capitalized? They should be proper nouns IMO.
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[17:23] gezza chibaguy: seems easy to capitalize
[17:24] gezza also options?
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[17:25] chibaguy_ Yes, please.
[17:33] gezza ops, not that easy as at first look, but I try to do
[17:35] chibaguy_ ok, thanks.
[17:38] xavi chibaguy and gezza, stacking icons worked nicely (after some css adjustment on the class .wizard_stick added to the "fa-magic" icon, such as: .wizard-stick { margin-left: .9em; }
[17:39] xavi and icons added in my test with:
[17:39] xavi <span class="pull-left fa-stack fa-lg">
[17:39] xavi <i class="fa fa-rotate-270 fa-magic fa-stack-2x wizard-stick"></i>
[17:39] xavi <i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-down fa-stack-2x"></i>
[17:39] xavi </span>
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[17:40] xavi that one to replace the former "Upgrade Wizard" icon
[17:41] chibaguy_ xavi, I think the challenge is to do that with our icon management, isn't it?
[17:41] xavi 2our"?
[17:41] gezza good to know it works :) but it is not using icon sets, it is "hardcoded" in the template
[17:41] xavi I tried in current tiki14 and it behaves nicely
[17:41] xavi ah, ok
[17:42] xavi bufff, getting away from my skills & time to fix it myself, I'm afraid, then
[17:42] xavi ok, anyway, I leave the idea here, in case it helps
[17:43] xavi however, tiki14 with hardcoded former icons for wizards would be even worse, isn't it?
[17:43] gezza i think in some special places like this it is ok not use iconsets
[17:44] gezza icon sets are meant for customizing save, delete, etc icons
[17:44] * xavi thinks in "commit early, commit often"..., and improve in small steps...
[17:44] * xavi will be gone away from irc and computers in 10' probably
[17:45] gezza i would say, commit it, font-awesome looks som much modern
[17:45] xavi ok, and feel free to improve anyone
[17:45] chibaguy_ gezza, I agree the font icons are more modern, but to be honest I often find the old graphic icons easier to understand.
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[17:46] chibaguy_ Partly it is familiarity, but partly I think the meaning just is more clear.
[17:47] chibaguy_ (One problem is the graphic icons could be made specifically for the task; with the font icons, we have to pick from a limited selection.)
[17:47] jonnyb chibaguy_ on a roll! busy busy, nice to see lots of css fixes, thanks :)
[17:47] chibaguy_ It'd be great to create a Tiki font with exactly the graphics we need.
[17:48] chibaguy_ hi jonnyb. well, a lot of things needing fixing in the themes.
[17:48] gezza it is possible to include any icon in an iconset, may it be font icon, image
[17:48] gezza so we can assemble the best mix
[17:49] jonnyb one option we haven't yet implamented in the fonticon stuff is to be able to overlay them, font-awesome has a syntax for this and we could adapt the tiki code quite easily (probably) to enable it
[17:57] xavi another newbie question, gezza, chibaguy_ and jonny: If I need to add some css classes, in which .less file should I place them?
[17:58] xavi (I guess I need to place them in some less file, right?)
[17:58] jonnyb that's a top question xavi - guess? :P
[17:58] xavi something like:
[17:58] xavi .wizard-stick { margin-left: .9em;}
[17:58] xavi .wizard-icon { margin-right: 1.8em;}
[17:58] chibaguy_ my first reply would be: can you use any existing class?
[17:58] xavi ok, will have a look
[17:58] jonnyb what i've done is search for something similar and put it near that
[17:58] gezza try to use a bootstrap class
[17:59] chibaguy_ If it has to be new, it can go in whatever seems to be the relevant "modular" less file, like tiki-admin.less maybe.
[17:59] xavi ok, wil have a look. it's for the wizards
[18:00] chibaguy_ (but this is the kind of thing I try to find in Tiki code and replace with an existing class. ;-) )
[18:00] xavi ok, ok, I'll search for something similar first, chibaguy_, thanks for the tip! ;-)
[18:02] chibaguy_ I suppose the ideal is to avoid "micro-management" like adding tiny white spaces, and instead have a consistent approach to layout.
[18:02] chibaguy_ (ideally)
[18:03] jonnyb +1 to consistant layout :)
[18:04] chibaguy_ Like how now tiki-wizard_admin.php uses the Bootstrap media classes rather than homegrown CSS. This was our reason for the framework, right?
[18:04] jonnyb and try not to worry about these 0.1em differences
[18:05] xavi getting lost
[18:06] xavi trying to avoid to, at least
[18:06] xavi so, I did search for "margin-left:" in less files, but couldn't find anything with .9em
[18:07] xavi and anyway, that would be not specific of one theme, but generic for all themes
[18:07] chibaguy_ Yeah, that's not surprising.
[18:07] xavi so something like ./themes/base_files/less/tiki-admin.less, right?
[18:08] xavi those dual-stacked (font-awesome) icons will need this margin set, one for the group of both, the other for the stick part of the icon
[18:08] chibaguy_ Recently I also realized I did some bad things by using Bootstrap classes in non-semantic ways just because they had a value I needed. In that case it really is better to make a new class.
[18:09] xavi yes, semantics, I was concerned with...
[18:09] xavi sorry, before drowning, I'll commit the 2 new css classes to ./themes/base_files/less/tiki-admin.less...
[18:11] chibaguy_ Ok. Another thing to think about is should they be named some wizard-spacing thing, or just "margin-left-9em"
[18:11] chibaguy_ Probably the measurement information would be better.
[18:13] chibaguy_ I recently added some classes for vertical spacing, called "margin-bottom-xs", "margin-bottom-sm", etc. Since this is actually missing in Bootstrap (for white space between .row divs, for example).
[18:13] chibaguy_ (not my original idea, but met a need we have)
[18:16] gezza this seems to be adding some padding: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#images
[18:16] gezza margin
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[18:26] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54388 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl * [FIX] admin: Labels after checkboxes works better
[18:27] chibaguy_ gezza, do you mean around the different-shaped images?
[18:28] chibaguy_ I noticed the Bootstrap example pages do use CSS that's not part of Bootstrap, for spacing like that.
[18:28] chibaguy_ ".bs-...." classes.
[18:31] chibaguy_ Bootstrap can't provide 100% of the CSS a site needs, but additions should be systematic and not one-instance, if possible.
[18:32] chibaguy_ Anyway, time for sleeping here. bbl.
[18:32] xavi ok, see you, commit in the works
[18:33] xavi I'll read you again in a couple of days, I guess
[18:33] xavi cheers
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[18:34] Tiki-KGB [FIX]Start adaptation of the wizards to font-awesome icons , .less and such. Proof of concept. Feel free to improve (I hope it's better than before for Tiki14). Thanks gezza, chibaguy and jonnyb for feedback.
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[19:02] Tiki-KGB [FIX] share: Default to only sending via one method, email because it's the top one (not message, twitter, fb and forums all at once always)
[19:02] Tiki-KGB Also move the global options to the bottom of the form plus a few other minor fixes (this form needs help, Bootstrap Team! ;)
[19:04] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r54391 10branches/14.x/templates/tiki-share.tpl * [FIX] share: One display:none too many
[19:12] wolfganga jonnyb - are you there?
[19:12] wolfganga or gezza - are you there?
[19:12] jonnyb yup wolfganga, still here
[19:13] wolfganga perfect - i am sure its fixed now - was a simple typo
[19:13] wolfganga i would commit now to 14.x
[19:13] wolfganga and mereg to trunk
[19:13] wolfganga could you test it then?
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[19:25] jonnyb hi, sorry wolfganga - yes will test
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[19:26] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Fixed regression introduced in r54227. Closing 5559. Minify JSFiles works properly for CKEDitor and some others. (Thanks xavi, jonnyb and gezza)
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[19:29] * jonnyb re-enables minify
[19:29] wolfganga thank you - you need to clear the minifiedjs cache in /temp/public
[19:30] wolfganga * excited and hoping it works for jonnyb *
[19:40] jonnyb sorry for the delay wolfganga, localhost decided to go on a "go slow"
[19:41] wolfganga * smiles *
[19:41] jonnyb your fix works perfectly, thank you
[19:42] wolfganga great - jonnyb was a simple typo - iguess we could even optimize the css / jss minifing to be just one simple file for each.
[19:43] jonnyb ...at least as far as ckeditor goes, and becasue it was such a clean fix i;m sure it's ok for the other troublesome ones - sorry for my skepticism  (i'll try and understand how that actually works some time ;) )
[19:43] wolfganga will look into that later again (hopefully - without typos and without breaking anything :-))
[19:43] jonnyb yes, one file for all should be possible now (well, one css and one js) - it's all binary really, innit?
[19:44] wolfganga you are always welcome - better some skepticism  than buggy software ;-)
[19:44] jonnyb i'm used to both :)
[19:45] wolfganga basically its a simple concatation
[19:45] wolfganga and the only thing that matters is the order
[19:45] jonnyb have decided i'm going to try and fix https://dev.tiki.org/item5225 - i tried a few tikis ago and i defeated me, again should be possible... think i'm 80% there
[19:46] jonnyb yes, probably the order wasn't taken into account enough before
[19:46] wolfganga when making the change, i followed the orginal design. thats why there is more than one file.
[19:46] wolfganga but as far as i am concerend - this is not necessary
[19:47] jonnyb worth trying, as you say it's usually the number of hits rather than the size that counts
[19:47] wolfganga exactly
[19:47] jonnyb and now we haven't got all those millions of individual png and gif icon files we should be looking pretty good on yslow etc
[19:47] wolfganga and we are down from 100+ (when doing xhr stuff like in trackerforms) to about 14
[19:48] jonnyb 8)
[19:48] wolfganga i guess and can be les than 10
[19:48] wolfganga wow even 8 :-)
[19:48] wolfganga btw. 5225 look difficult
[19:48] jonnyb on a related topic is there anything we should be thinking about to take advantage of http 2?
[19:49] wolfganga i am not sure - have not looked into this, yet. But i am alawys eager to reduce load time bc ist so important for our use case (having real world customers on the ystem)
[19:50] wolfganga there two php settings though that need adjustment
[19:50] wolfganga moment pls - look them up
[19:54] wolfganga realpath_cache_size setting: should be increased from 16k to at least 32k
[19:55] wolfganga and realpath_cache_ttl setting can be increased to something like 3600sec bc its only changing when tiki changes. on my dev i have set it to 120sec bc of regular file changes.
[19:56] wolfganga jonnyb - if you work on 5225 - maybe you can will automatically fix pdf export using wkhtml2pdf on wiki pages with images.
[19:57] wolfganga The images get not to the pdf and i think thats because the token-auth somehore does not work for those images. the images are created using css background - not with img tags (which imho is suboptimal)
[19:58] jonnyb hmm, maybe - not really used the pdf stuff much - who knows?
[20:10] Tiki-KGB 03walper r54395 10branches/14.x/lib/setup/absolute_urls.php * [FIX] Fixed notice when doing a database update via console.
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[20:31] wolfganga back - irc somehow did not work anylonger
[20:33] wolfganga anyone having an idea howto do the following: if a trackeritem changes (by status or maybe by content - so on edit): a.) send out an email to a specific user/group  that is set in that item b.) send an email with a pdf rendered based on a view template for that tracker
[20:34] wolfganga use case. if a ticket chages, send info to the ticket owner or his group
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[20:34] wolfganga either as a notice, better with a renderd nice looking pdf
[20:35] gezza minify javascript is ok now, thanks wolfganga!
[20:38] jonnyb wolfganga: there are various (rather old and cranky) email notification methods for tracker items
[20:40] jonnyb i'm sure there is a way of doing tha, but the formatting etc of the emails isn't great and it looked like either a lot of work or a lot of code duplicating to fix
[20:40] jonnyb i tihnk it's only possible using the tracker plugin - there's an email field with whacky formatting for templates etc
[20:41] jonnyb aynway, i need to feed now, more later/tomorrow...
[20:42] wolfganga gezza - great to hear - like i said - i will optimize a bit more to get down to 1 js and 1 css file
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[22:52] Tiki-KGB [FIX] chosen does not respect disabled state on fieldset, but it respects on selects
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