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[13:19] amette polom
[13:19] jonnyb moloq amette
[13:19] amette hi jonnyb
[13:20] amette any ideas how to tackle the nextdev wsod next?
[13:20] jonnyb thanks for looking into nextdev's problems
[13:20] amette you're welcome
[13:20] jonnyb was hoping for something useful from the error_log
[13:20] jonnyb :(
[13:21] amette yeah, me too, not really though - hang on, I'll get the two from last night...
[13:21] jonnyb it'll probably be a module or something that appears when you're logged in i think
[13:21] jonnyb i can make a new one if it helps?
[13:21] amette ah, module might be...
[13:21] amette ... you mean make new error or module? :)
[13:21] jonnyb new error :)
[13:22] amette ok, yeah, the 500 won't happen again, that's why I meant search for last night
[13:22] jonnyb might be worth checking what the error display prefs are set to
[13:22] amette although it wasn't too exciting anyways iirc
[13:22] jonnyb oh right, got you
[13:22] amette ok
[13:23] jonnyb ew, just got the noscript mode on nextdev again - grrr
[13:23] amette error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED & ~E_STRICT
[13:23] jonnyb and the other one - error_display (i think?)
[13:24] amette 85.177.87.94 - next [15/Apr/2015:00:40:24 +0200] "POST /tiki-login.php HTTP/1.1" 500 31 "https://nextdev.tiki.org/login" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Geck
[13:24] amette o) Chrome/37.0.2062.120 Safari/537.36"
[13:24] amette display_errors is on (changed that last night)
[13:24] amette I also inserted a deliberate syntax error in tiki-login.php for testing and that one was shown in the browser.
[13:25] amette but well, the 500 went away - so let's not get hung up on that one
[13:26] amette now we have 200s and WSOD - I also upped memory_limit to 256M (from 192M), but no change - now bck at 192M again
[13:26] jonnyb hold on, just closing some other things
[13:26] amette alright
[13:33] amette And I'd like to know who uses uptimerobot on our next-sites without having it properly configured to do http basic auth. It's most annoying in the logs.
[13:35] jonnyb sorry, not me - no idea what that bot is :)
[13:36] amette uptimerobot.com - I'm sure it's well meant, but forgotten that it was set up or such
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[13:36] amette also I don't find last nights 500 in the proper nginx-error log, but as said earlier: let's forget about that one
[13:36] amette nothing happens in logs when getting the WSOD :-/
[13:37] Bsfez groummmffff
[13:38] Bsfez hi all
[13:38] amette hi Bsfez :)
[13:38] Bsfez hi amette
[13:38] Bsfez so we have no clue ?
[13:39] amette yep, currently our board of clues is as blank as the nextdev page after login
[13:40] amette jonnyb suspected a module that only triggers after login - not a clue, but an idea at least
[13:40] Bsfez you removed the http authentification ?
[13:40] jonnyb hi Bsfez
[13:40] amette yep, that didn't change anything - I can remove it again for now, if you want to test
[13:40] jonnyb seems odd if it's a module or something that it doesn't affect dev.t.o
[13:40] Bsfez module search_morelikethis is broken
[13:41] amette removed http auth and did a full nginx restart
[13:41] Bsfez oh i had it… refreshing here too
[13:42] Bsfez did you remove https in the db (or can you do it) ?
[13:42] amette nope, I didn't as it was the same on themes. I'll give it a try, hang on.
[13:42] Bsfez db -> tiki-pref -> search for https set to "disable", search secure set to "n"
[13:43] Bsfez thanks
[13:45] amette there are https_login_required=n and https_login=required, nothing with secure
[13:46] amette those first two I was wondering about last night already... they feel kinda redundant?!
[13:46] amette what do I set the https_login to?
[13:47] Bsfez ha ha… let check exact term in a t14 db
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[13:48] Bsfez https_login should be "disabled" (i recall that it was once disable, but who cares)
[13:48] chibaguy polom
[13:48] jonnyb hi chibaguy
[13:49] chibaguy hi jonnyb
[13:49] jonnyb ok, here now (got distracted by the tikifest tracker ;) )
[13:49] amette Bsfez: ok, they are set
[13:49] amette moloq chibaguy
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[13:49] chibaguy :-) hi amette
[13:50] amette :) Still can't login though, WSOD stays.
[13:50] Bsfez ok
[13:50] Bsfez in T12 we had "session_protected" and it took me A LOT OF TIME to find it
[13:50] jonnyb still got a whitey on nextdev login
[13:51] Bsfez in T14 check "session_protected" = "n"
[13:51] Bsfez i'm still redirected to https
[13:51] amette session_silent=y, session_storage=default, tiki_cachecontrol_session='no-cache, pre-check=0, post-check=0' <- those are all like '%session%'
[13:52] amette Bsfez: no redirect to https here, try loading it fully non-ssled first
[13:53] Bsfez may be it was removed in between…
[13:54] Bsfez In T14 I can find only here
[13:54] jonnyb also just got WSoD logging in as non-admin
[13:54] Bsfez 1 match inside table index_pref_en
[13:55] amette I removed module search_morelikethis and cleared caches (via console.php) - no change
[13:55] Bsfez ok now for me too, no more https… but wsod
[13:55] Bsfez (checking on win chrome, no-script turned off, all menu open - anonymous)
[13:56] jonnyb i still don't get why we're not seeing any errors (in browser or logs)?
[13:56] amette Indeed, that's what I'd like to know, too!
[13:57] amette jonnyb: try again
[13:57] jonnyb will do
[13:57] jonnyb aha!
[13:58] amette imho that means that if there would be a real error, it would show, right?
[13:58] amette this now was a deliberately removed semicolon
[13:58] jonnyb oh right, that $bypass_siteclose_check one was you
[13:58] amette yes, sorry, should have mentioned before you get your hopes high
[13:58] amette but I mean: to test that the php.ini and stuff is properly configured
[13:58] jonnyb yes, that means if it was a syntax error in php we would see it
[13:58] Bsfez did you check your cookies ? a lot of people there...
[13:59] jonnyb but what about a db error
[13:59] jonnyb could you (as a test) rename a vital table maybe temporarily?
[13:59] amette hmmm.... good point... if tiki doesn't realise it, it won't be shown
[13:59] jonnyb like tiki_preferences
[14:00] amette yeah, sure, usually it then throws up the database not properly configured - had that yesterday at one point, when database:update wasn't run yet
[14:00] amette hang on, I'll rename
[14:01] amette ok
[14:01] amette redirects me to tiki-install.php
[14:01] Bsfez :uncaught error capslock something is not helping I guess
[14:01] Bsfez redirects me to tiki-install.php
[14:01] jonnyb hmm, ok, so not db either (probably)
[14:01] amette but: tiki_preferences is the one that is being used as a check for database being initialised...
[14:02] amette ... another table might not give the same behaviour. hang on...
[14:02] jonnyb ah, maybe a bad example
[14:03] amette ok, not tiki_modules became tiki_mods - different error, but error at least
[14:03] jonnyb how big is the database? if you can send me a copy somehow i can step through it in the debugger (maybe, actually intertiki might prevent that)
[14:03] amette Oh, you can have a copy, it's only a bit over a gig *g*
[14:04] jonnyb ah, does anyone know what the local admin password is on dev? that might rule out intertiki
[14:04] jonnyb hmm, a gig might take longer than other options..
[14:04] amette a gig takes longer than about anything :-/
[14:05] jonnyb why so big i wonder?
[14:05] amette but iirc as long as I backup the tiki_actionlog table to somewhere, I am allowed to drop it, yeah?
[14:05] Bsfez … would be faster to install new db from scratch just to check ?
[14:05] amette the answer is in my last question, jonnyb
[14:05] Bsfez wouldn't be
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[14:05] Bsfez a new one without touching the previous one
[14:05] amette Bsfez: we even have doc and themes _including_ data and they work - so nothing new to learn from an empty db
[14:06] Bsfez ok
[14:06] jonnyb always wondered about that - we really need a way of managing the actionlog better
[14:07] Bsfez and if we copy just the tiki-preferences table into a new one to be sure we are looking in the right direction ?
[14:07] amette jonnyb: imho actionlog is for low-traffic sites as the concept is flawed for anything that has close to serious traffic - nelson suggested logstash and that does look good - I am working on the server side for that, so we should get some results there within some weeks
[14:07] jonnyb not sure what the "policy" is on actionlog - guess we need to keep it somewhere - no idea really (it's an admin thing, i'm just a coder ;) )
[14:07] jonnyb cool, yes i tried to get logstash and kibana working, looks promising (but i failed so far)
[14:08] jonnyb so could you send me a db without actionlog? seems i might be quickest...
[14:08] amette the actionlog on dev was probably out of curiosity to see how people use the site, but so far I haven't seen anyone produce any relevant information for the community from it *shrug*
[14:09] amette and well, curiosity not only killed the cat
[14:09] jonnyb :)
[14:09] Bsfez :)
[14:09] amette :)
[14:10] Bsfez Im running a movie in the background… "Kon Tiki" lol
[14:10] jonnyb excellent!
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[14:10] jonnyb ah, polom nelsonko
[14:10] Bsfez Hi Nelson
[14:10] amette hiya nelsonko - looks we summoned you ;)
[14:10] nelsonko jonnyb: hi good morning. how are you?
[14:10] jonnyb we're all banging our heads against the WSoD on nextdev on login
[14:11] jonnyb i'm fine thanks (thinking about lunch!)
[14:11] jonnyb and you? well i hope!
[14:11] nelsonko pretty well
[14:11] nelsonko let me try log gin in
[14:12] jonnyb https login was disabled as an experiment - no help
[14:12] nelsonko amette, any errors in php log?
[14:12] amette nelsonko: nope, none at all
[14:12] jonnyb also session stuff has been "fiddled" with
[14:13] nelsonko what do you mean "fiddled"?
[14:13] amette more like SSL stuff, not session - like forcing not to use ssl for login
[14:13] nelsonko you mean in the tiki settings?
[14:14] amette yep, in tiki_preferences
[14:15] nelsonko i notice when I go to https://nextdev.tiki.org/tiki-login_scr.php
[14:15] nelsonko and when i login, it refreshes to non https version
[14:15] amette stay in ssl mode was set to 'n' earlier
[14:15] amette one of the "fiddlings"
[14:17] nelsonko in tiki_logs you can see if anyone has logged in since the last db update
[14:17] nelsonko (I think)
[14:18] nelsonko sorry, I misunderstood
[14:18] nelsonko Jonny did say that https login was disabled as an experiment
[14:19] jonnyb i looked through the possible modules that are only for registered but couldn't see anything suspicious
[14:19] jonnyb therre are lots of strange looking custom modules though (was looking at them on the real dev site)
[14:19] amette last one in tiki_logs: | 113493 | login   | logged out                                                                       | changi67      | 83.141.196.165  | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100214 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.5.8 | 1269369207 |
[14:20] amette that has been a while
[14:20] jonnyb hey, i remember him! :)
[14:20] amette hehe ;)
[14:20] amette currently we have 1429100382
[14:20] amette compared to the 1269369207
[14:20] Bsfez GMT: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:33:27 GMT ?
[14:20] Bsfez :D
[14:20] amette yeah *g*
[14:21] nelsonko | cookie_domain           | .dev.tiki.org |
[14:21] nelsonko could that be the issue?
[14:22] Bsfez yes saw them, removed them but… same
[14:22] amette one of those things I was wondering last night, too - didn't fiddle with it cause they are no issue on nextthemes and nextdoc
[14:22] nelsonko doc has the same though
[14:22] amette :)
[14:22] Bsfez however what's left in cookies say sometimes
[14:22] Bsfez DOMAIN | nextdev.tiki.org
[14:23] Bsfez DOMAIN | .nextdev.tiki.org
[14:23] Bsfez … couldn't be critical
[14:23] * amette is still wondering if database corruption could cause anything like this
[14:28] nelsonko amette, can you revert the https fiddling?
[14:28] amette yes, hang on
[14:28] jonnyb afraid i need to go for a little while - other than trying it locally with a debugger, or adding die("got this far") line in the various login files i can't think of anything else
[14:28] amette done
[14:29] Bsfez I compared the cookies in nextthemes and nextdev
[14:29] Bsfez quit different
[14:29] amette the next thing I am going to try is: replay the original database into a new schema and install the original tiki without upgrading to 14.x - this way we can see, if it actually is due to the tiki upgrade
[14:30] jonnyb i would be most surprised if it was a cookie causing WSoD (but possible i guess)
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[14:30] amette that will need a disk resize though as the friggin database is 3.2GB
[14:30] jonnyb anyway, see you all later...
[14:30] Bsfez cu
[14:30] amette ok, I'll start my experiment and have a shower - see you later
[14:31] nelsonko dev has session_silent            | y
[14:31] amette no, hang on
[14:32] amette oh, yes, it has
[14:32] amette 13:51 < amette> session_silent=y, session_storage=default, tiki_cachecontrol_session='no-cache, p                      post-check=0' <- those are all like '%session%'
[14:32] nelsonko try fiddle with that?
[14:33] amette ok, set it to 'n' or anything else?
[14:33] nelsonko yeah 'n'
[14:33] amette done
[14:34] amette nelsonko: Still same behviour here. I'll halt the machine now for five minutes to do the disk resize, ok?
[14:35] nelsonko disk space looks ok to me
[14:35] amette Planning to run a non-upgraded tiki in parallel to figure out, if the database has any corruption.
[14:35] nelsonko can i try something first?
[14:35] amette yes, please
[14:36] nelsonko Ii can login now after clearing cookies
[14:36] nelsonko could be the session silent thing
[14:36] amette w00t! :)
[14:37] amette I'm sooo glad you tried that first!! :)
[14:37] amette what does the session silent thingy do?
[14:38] nelsonko let's verify theory first, one sec
[14:39] amette yeah... it doesn't work for me it seems...
[14:39] nelsonko no?
[14:39] nelsonko I was thinking I can change it back to session_silent = 'y' and then  clear cookies and try again (but I haven't started yet)
[14:40] amette Chromium -> Settings -> Advanced -> Clear browsing data -> Cookies and other site and plug-in data -> Clear browsing data - no change :-/
[14:40] nelsonko restart browser?
[14:41] amette nope, wsod here
[14:42] nelsonko ah i am on the wrong site
[14:42] amette hehe :)
[14:42] nelsonko ok let me do some quick debugging
[14:43] amette ok, I'll have my shower then now, that massive operation of a parallel install feels like quite a last resort anyways
[14:51] Bsfez still wsod here
[14:55] nelsonko debugging
[14:55] nelsonko amette, definitely a php error, not sure why no error reporting
[14:59] nelsonko anyway, let me find where the error is first
[15:00] amette nelsonko: ok, cool - glad to hear that - good hunting!
[15:07] nelsonko oh elasticsearch
[15:07] nelsonko it is trying to index the user last login and it fails then
[15:09] nelsonko amette, can you check?
[15:10] nelsonko also it makes no sense the nextdev will try and touch the same index as dev anyway, even if it can connect to the server
[15:10] amette much better "20 or more unsuccessful login attempts have been made. "
[15:10] amette oooh, doh - elasticsearch, ok
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[15:10] amette didn't think of that at all... and doc and themes don't use it, right?
[15:10] nelsonko no, dev is the only one
[15:11] amette ok, I see
[15:12] amette there should be a timeout or such, it shouldn't fail completely imho
[15:12] amette but actually this was a good thing that it was locked out by the firewall - so we noticed this and didn't get our indices messed up
[15:12] nelsonko it used to display an error when it fail to connect (ashen trying to read)
[15:12] nelsonko not sure about logging in
[15:13] nelsonko maybe log gin in didn't use to index anything
[15:13] nelsonko but now it does
[15:13] amette hmm, ok, so it's not throwing errors in a central location
[15:13] amette ok, cool :)
[15:13] amette ah, not cool - misunderstood - ok
[15:15] amette now I'm getting a wsod again, I guess you're fiddling
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[15:33] nelsonko amette: done fiddling
[15:33] nelsonko I did not fix anything
[15:33] nelsonko when you got through it was possibly while I was testing
[15:34] nelsonko I need to go now, meeting
[15:34] nelsonko Can you look at connection to elastic search?
[15:34] amette Ok, I can open up the firewall, but should probably also change the index, right?
[15:34] nelsonko yes
[15:34] nelsonko use system configuration?
[15:34] nelsonko does the script reindex?
[15:34] amette aha, good idea. No, script does not reindex.
[15:35] amette isn't the index name generated randomly somehow?
[15:35] nelsonko but system configuration will be part of the script
[15:35] nelsonko because you untag th backup right?
[15:35] nelsonko untar
[15:35] amette yes, correct
[15:35] nelsonko index prefix is set in pref
[15:36] amette system configuration - you mean tiki.ini? there's no such thing in dev.t.o apparantly
[15:36] amette ah, ok, index prefix - that's trivial to fix then
[15:36] nelsonko i mean tiki.ini yes
[15:36] amette right, ok, just making sure, we're talking about the same thing
[15:36] amette I'll add creation of tiki.ini to the refresh-nxt.sh script
[15:37] amette and open up the firewall on elasticsearch
[15:37] amette still we need some code fix for the wsod - at least give an error message, if not log in
[15:37] amette that's not my department though ;)
[15:42] Bsfez search from the topbar is working back on nextdev :)
[15:45] amette food is just ready here, I'll be fixing the login soon - hang in there for a bit still
[16:04] Bsfez sound like something is going in a good direction !
[16:04] Bsfez Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '$system_configuration_identifi' (T_VARIABLE) in /var/local/dev.tiki.org/www/db/local.php on line 11
[16:05] amette try again please
[16:05] Bsfez Configuration file could not be read.
[16:05] amette ok, better - config file next :)
[16:09] Bsfez tea-time coming back soon
[16:10] amette enjoy
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[16:23] amette hmmm... ok.... looks good so far... login works... not completely sure on those index prefixes...
[16:24] amette ... I guess I'll just risk it and reindex.
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[16:28] Bsfez checking
[16:29] Bsfez you-hou could login !
[16:29] Bsfez will report test in devlist now
[16:30] Bsfez Amette, nextdev is last version ?
[16:31] Bsfez Last update from SVN (14.0beta): Wednesday 15 April, 2015 03:48:07 IDT- REV 55084
[16:32] amette I think there weren't any commits since then?
[16:32] amette I'll svn up anyways - hang on
[16:32] Bsfez tks
[16:32] Bsfez I though gary corrected some stuff about the topbar
[16:32] amette oh, no, lots of tpl and css changes
[16:32] amette svn up done
[16:32] amette Admin panel says that the DB needs upgrade, but that doesn't work.
[16:33] Bsfez arf… we are not done yet :)
[16:33] amette Like: there are two things that fail, because the tables exist already - I think I need to manually mark those as done in the installer, right?
[16:33] Bsfez yes which table ?
[16:36] amette hang on, running composer, database:update next
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[16:36] Bsfez np
[16:36] Bsfez Last update from SVN (14.0beta): Wednesday 15 April, 2015 17:13:35 IDT- REV 55091
[16:36] Bsfez look more like ti :)
[16:36] amette remoloq jonnyb
[16:37] amette :)
[16:37] Bsfez hi jb
[16:37] jonnyb any progress?
[16:37] jonnyb ah, yes - looks like i'm logged in on nextdev
[16:37] Bsfez login is ok now thanks to Amette and Nelson
[16:37] amette tiki_tabular_formats already exits
[16:37] amette exists
[16:37] jonnyb what was the problem?
[16:38] amette elasticsearch could not be reached due to firewalling on the search-cluster and tiki seems to want to index the login or some such
[16:38] Bsfez As soon as amette complete update (manual db update) I'll test and report into the list
[16:38] amette what's the currently preferred pastebin of this channel?
[16:38] jonnyb yuk, and that was casuing WSoD? that's bad
[16:38] Bsfez (we should have some kind of verbose for this)
[16:38] amette jonnyb: I agree, we need a code fix for that
[16:39] jonnyb i can have a go at that - will try and simulate it here - enabling elastic search without having one might be a place to start
[16:40] amette http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?f7f8bb4535fdc38e#v6sHvh4Eks3sfplVe2+QwFHjjFn/rjc0IInvtVj5GqQ=
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[16:40] amette jonnyb: yup, sounds just like the issue we had :)
[16:40] fabricius1 polom
[16:40] jonnyb polom fabricius1
[16:41] amette Bsfez: see the link --^
[16:41] fabricius1 hi jonnyb, how are you?
[16:41] amette moloq fabricius1
[16:41] jonnyb fine thanks
[16:41] fabricius wolod amette
[16:41] Bsfez yes thanks amette
[16:41] Bsfez Hi fabricus
[16:41] fabricius Hi Bsfez
[16:42] Bsfez ;)
[16:42] fabricius everything alright with tracker field discussion right now, or any bum... er issues?
[16:42] jonnyb http://sebsauvage.net looks interesting, nice find amette
[16:42] amette :)
[16:43] amette jonnyb: do you know about the elasticsearch indices and their prefixes and the random looking postfixes?
[16:43] jonnyb fabricius: i can't seem to find an example of and "old" one to see if an update breaks anything, was hopeing Xavi would be about, he uses them a lot
[16:43] jonnyb amette: only a bit, in that i've seen them
[16:43] fabricius jonnyb: can we export trackers with field and content?
[16:43] jonnyb it's all a bit of a "black box" to me
[16:43] amette I now changed the unified_elastic_index_prefix via "System Configuration" on nextdev.
[16:44] amette because we don't want to overwrite our live index
[16:44] jonnyb ah right, yes, i think nelsonko had to do that before on nextdev
[16:44] jonnyb wasn't that part of the next sync script?
[16:44] amette in the admin panel it doesn't really show though and index rebuild didn't really work - so I'm hesitant to call it a day on nextdev
[16:44] Bsfez amette it's all done I can start to test ?
[16:45] amette Bsfez: you can test, but don't rely on search-functionality using the correct index - but since the data is mostly the same it shouldn't matter
[16:45] jonnyb by the way, those sql update errors can be ignored - would be nice to prevent them but hard
[16:45] fabricius jonnyb: I fear, that for the old - new issue, we might in worst case have to wait until someone comes with an issue - I have nothing related either on an old site
[16:46] amette jonnyb: ok, cool about the sql errors - so I can get rid of them and the admin panel warning by using tiki-install.php I guess!?
[16:46] jonnyb re the export trackers thing fabricius, yes, but you do them separately - tracker defitintion, fields and data are all separate exports (not great)
[16:46] jonnyb there's an option to the console.php d:u command... 1 mo
[16:46] Bsfez ok no search thanks again this has already helped us to get one notch closer to the release !
[16:47] fabricius can you give me some guiding advice (where to go, click click) - then I'd try to export the trackers from my Tiki trunk show instance and import to a Tiki 14 show instance
[16:47] jonnyb yes, it's --auto-register  (got from php console.php help d:u)
[16:48] amette and jonnyb : no it wasn't in the next-script, it is now, but not sure, if it does work properly
[16:50] * amette needs to invest some hours to dig into this search indexing... quite tough to administer systems, if one doesn't even know what all those indices are for
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[16:51] amette and why does console.php claim that index:rebuild is not available *scratchinghead*
[16:51] amette from admin panel it works, but times out of course
[16:54] amette oh and btw - didn't we see error messages earlier because it is set to "Visible to Admin only"?!
[16:54] amette That might be something we want to have refresh-nxt.sh set in system config, too.
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[16:56] Tiki-KGB [bp/r55086][FIX] consistency: articles should respect the choice to display own image (e.g. own image in the body of the article or upload a custom one) instead of the topic image; so if the checkbox is selected do not display the topic image (thanks marclaporte)
[16:57] jonnyb ah yes, the errors on tiki next sites should be visible to all, true amette
[16:57] amette I checked the DB upgrades in tiki-install.php, no more errors there - we are approaching a clean upgrade. :)
[16:57] amette ok, I'll add that to the system config
[16:57] jonnyb yay :)
[16:58] jonnyb can't see why index:rebuild should be unavailable if the db is up to date
[17:00] * jonnyb is now regretting getting elasticsearch to be running all the time on his laptop, and can't remember how to switch it off!
[17:00] amette hehehe, shouldn't there be an /etc/init.d/elasticsearch ?
[17:02] amette otherwise... you can just config your Tiki to try and connect to my.nonexistent.elasticsearch.server ?!
[17:02] amette even better, use a non-existant private IP like 10.20.30.40
[17:02] amette (assuming you aren't in that subnet)
[17:03] jonnyb nothing so easy, this is Mac OS :)
[17:03] jonnyb going to change the pref as you suggest, ta
[17:03] amette oh, right, needs clicking and stuff *g*
[17:03] amette yeah, yw
[17:04] jonnyb no, it has some sort of BSD underneath it, but it's all launch control stuff
[17:05] amette oooh, look at that.. checking the database errors made the console.php index:update available it seems :)
[17:06] amette yeah, I know, there should be a console way for everything on MacOS, I just don't know them.
[17:06] jonnyb yes, the console.php won't do anything until the database is up to date (and error free)
[17:06] fabricius jonnyb: it seems that it is possible to export the tracker items, but the structure iexport is not working -> click link -> nothing happens
[17:07] jonnyb i just added a 1 to the end of the elasticsearch url and now i get WDoD on the search panel, so that's a start :)
[17:07] amette sounds familiar, yeah :)
[17:07] amette and the index rebuild fails with: PHP Fatal error:  Call to a member function getConfiguration() on a non-object in /var/local/dev.tiki.org/www/lib/core/Tracker/Item.php on line 126
[17:07] jonnyb almost like a WSoD ;)
[17:08] amette hehe, yeah, the console version of it *g*
[17:08] jonnyb wouldn't that be WToD or something
[17:08] amette does it remove the index it created so far, if it fails?
[17:08] amette White Text of Death?! :)
[17:08] jonnyb the rebuild error will probably be a corrupt or mangled plugin somewhere, hard to trap
[17:09] amette BPoD - Black Prompt of Death *g*
[17:09] jonnyb but i can add a better error probably
[17:09] jonnyb White Terminal of Death i thought...
[17:09] amette Terminal - right! :)
[17:09] jonnyb BPoD is better
[17:09] amette Many ways to say it's b0rked.
[17:10] jonnyb anyway, one bug at a time (yes fabricius, the export thing is broken, probably the same as users admin was for a while in beta)
[17:10] amette thing is, I saw an index like tikinextdev_123456789, which is now gone.
[17:11] fabricius humm jonnyb - bad thing. I'd like to implement the same tracker setup as in the trunk show, but settingall up manually might be too much for today
[17:14] amette hmmm, I think that I can drop all those indices that have this hash appended... they seem to be temporary indices... dunno why the tikidevlive ones weren't removed, probably older code, but the tikinextdev gets removed once it fails
[17:17] amette mmmnnnhhh... not completely, that hash stays there in the end.
[17:18] jonnyb re
[17:19] jonnyb how elastic search works is a mystery - i guess there's some housekeeping things one should do to purge old indexes
[17:20] amette indeed, there are about a dozen of old indices from another site - I guess most of them are failed and just eating up heap - I'll have to dig deeper into that, putting on my list for when I upgrade the search cluster
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[17:22] amette Do others think too that it would make sense to have Tiki|bot not shout out about devel-list posts or is it just me?
[17:25] amette Ok, I added error_reporting_adminonly=n and error_reporting_level=-1 to system config.
[17:25] jonnyb certinly once would be enough!
[17:25] amette I think I'm so far done with nextdev.
[17:25] jonnyb i'm finding (re fabricius tracker stuff) that i get an error 500 on all tracker service dialogs, import, export, events etc - anyone else?
[17:26] Bsfez 45mn test done on nextdev… look great only a few glitch !
[17:26] Bsfez be back later !
[17:26] jonnyb thanks Bsfez
[17:26] jonnyb well done :)
[17:26] amette Indeed... it does so multiple times, too. Maybe restricting it to once would ease my mind already.
[17:26] amette cheers Bsfez :)
[17:26] amette good work, getting there! :)
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[17:36] amette Hey Caarrie|away - thanks for running Tiki|bot! Would it be possible to make him/her/it announce new posts only once?
[17:43] amette Alright, I'll have a little walk to catch the last sun rays (lovely weather here) - bbl
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[17:53] jonnyb amette: when you're back hopefully r55093 will prevent similar WSoD experiences on next sites in the future...
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[17:54] Tiki-KGB [FIX] elasticsearch: Add a new try/catch one level deeper than seems necessary, but this seems to prevent complete WSoD when Elastic Search is incorrectly configured.
[17:54] Tiki-KGB Hopefully this will prevent issues as experienced today on nextdev.tiki.org (thanks amette and all for diagnosing, fingers crossed)
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[18:52] amette jonnyb: woohoo, great, thanks, mate! :)
[18:53] jonnyb hope so :)
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[19:10] fabricius re jonnyb - have been out of the house. Where you get error 500? I get not - Is it a Tiki issue or maybe a server or local issue?
[19:11] fabricius Tiki|bot, are you there?
[19:11] jonnyb it was not connected (trying to debug 2 things at once)
[19:12] fabricius by the way jonnyb I have an issue at the site I've shown you recently
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[19:12] fabricius I upgraded (svn up trunk)
[19:12] jonnyb tracker export seems to work fine
[19:12] fabricius and all tablesorter stuff disappeared
[19:13] fabricius jonnyb: I cannot export the tracker structure here: http://torsten-11143-5621.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
[19:14] jonnyb it's a bit misleading - you have to copy the text out of the textarea
[19:17] fabricius jonnyb: I'd like to export the fields and then the items. - I do not find options for fields and Export and Import are quite different
[19:18] fabricius - appear different -
[19:18] jonnyb on the edit fields page
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[19:20] Tiki-KGB [FIX] plugins: Escape double quotes in plugin arguments when edited in the plugin edit popup form (should allow mediaplayer type param to contain the codecs setting in the right format now)
[19:20] jonnyb select the checkboxes on the fields you want and use the dropdown to export
[19:30] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r55100 10branches/14.x/templates/tracker/export.tpl
[19:30] Tiki-KGB [FIX] trackers: Make it a bit clearer how to export and import tracker structures by replacing the (non-functional) export button with some text (thanks fabricius)
[19:33] fabricius jonnyb: it seems to work indeed - and it was indeed a bit unobvious
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[19:34] jonnyb yes, just total interface failure! :)
[19:34] jonnyb i need to go now, mbbl
[19:36] fabricius bubu jonnyb
[19:36] fabricius and thx jonnyb
[19:36] fabricius yes, "just total interface failure"
[19:36] jonnyb :)
[19:36] fabricius :D
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[22:45] Caarrie|away amette: it is an rss feed, it detects that something has changed in the feed so it posts more then one time. no idea why.