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pedro_morgananyone really crazy enought to use golang for tikiwiki.. for me... grabbing tw.contents and parsing at "html bits"...via ajax for insertion.. elese where on pyqt client desktop (ie a manually thing)
golang is the strategic decision, for goroutines and a compiled think with no silly "missing parts".. same "app logic", just a fifferent client o same db..... 		[00:29]
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luciashpedro_morgan: sorry, no idea what golang is :) [00:42]
pedro_morganluciash: https://tour.golang.org/welcome/1 [00:46]
fabriciusa coding/programming language - what is the connection with Tiki pedro_morgan ? [00:49]
pedro_morganI celebrated my 50th earlier this ear.. [00:51]
luciashah :) I guess I cannot wrap my head around it, sorry [00:51]
pedro_morganAnd I got some tikiwiki's running.. and working sweet.. like this one http://anahata-retreat.org.nz/ [00:51]
luciash(not crazy enough probably) [00:52]
pedro_morganand also some tikiwiki on a "lan" with some manuals.. and alike.. and thanks to tiki tewam.. they are a reliable olde system.. and thanks all..... [00:52]
luciashcool [00:53]
pedro_morganIn concert I also write pyqt applications... = living.. as a db app/developer mainly python...
So snag is that I'm now writing "API" with golang..
So what I want to do is basically write a "golang" interface into tikiwiki, mainy to parse contents etc etc.. server side.....
Simple stuff would be updating tikiwikki.. as a backend into the db.. (avoiding tikiwiki)... but a lot of the magix happens in tiki wiki.. 		[00:53]
luciashfabricius might give you some hints about the existing Wiki/Jison parser maybe to not reinvent the wheel? It is called wikiLingo or something...
I have no idea how it is supposed to work and barely nobody uses it in Tiki though so it seems to be destined for extinction in the end... 		[00:58]
pedro_morganwell the json interface is exactly what I am after.. a way to removely "enquire" from remote service=tw.. [01:01]
luciashsorry, maybe it is totally unrelated: https://doc.tiki.org/wikiLingo
probably not what you are looking for
I did not mean json (jison != json) 		[01:04]
pedro_morganquick question.. as I dive through php.. where is the "wiki parser" ?? [01:06]
luciashlib/
what Tiki version?
lib/parser/parserlib.php 		[01:07]
pedro_morgangit ? [01:09]
luciashwe are still struggling on it: https://dev.tiki.org/Wiki+Parser+Revamp
nope, sf.net SVN repo 		[01:10]
pedro_morganok am into a challenge.. never writtena parser in my life.. but having a stab.......... [01:17]
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jonnybhi chibaguy - just did a little css fix, hope it was right :) [15:51]
chibaguyah, ok, if it works, that's fine. [15:55]
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chibaguyThere's a mix of styles in the Bootstrapified forms that probably should be fixed: when the label and input are in a row, sometimes the label is left-aligned, and sometimes right-aligned. Bootstrap docs and some best practices I've read say the labels should be right-aligned to make it clear which label is for which input.
So there's minimal whitespace between the label and input. But this also makes a ragged left margin which looks messy to some people apparently.
So we have some forms one way and some the other.
Seems like they should be consistent. Any suggestions?
I'll post it to the artwork list. 		[16:02]
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jonnybsorry chibaguy - distraction(s)
i'd go for following the bootstrap standard by default, others can override locally if they really need to imho 		[16:10]
chibaguyYou don't mind the ragged left margin? [16:11]
jonnybone nice one i've spotted in a similar vein is the size of the left (labels) "column" varying, particulalry for instance on the registration form with user tracker fields and captcha added, they're all different!
no, right aligned for labels make sense to me
https://tiki.org/tiki-register.php for example (of both things)

i thnk it's the reg fields labels width that needs to be reduced from col-md-4 to col-md-3
however the registration ones also have col-sm-3 so i got scared and ran away :) 		[16:12]
chibaguyHmm, yeah, we should have a forms style guide.
I made a page long ago about bootstrapifying forms but didn't suggest any widths.
or grid classes
I wonder what the thinking is regarding col-md-3 vs col-sm-3, etc. I need to do some more research. 		[16:16]
jonnybi think leaving the tracker plugins ones alone would be best and make the reg ones match (and antibot) [16:18]
chibaguyYeah, there's also the variability of the input field width. [16:20]
jonnyband different * positions for the mandatory ones, it's a chewey one! :) [16:20]
chibaguyyep, well, I'll research and make a wiki page as a start.
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luciashI tend to agree.
hi jonny :) 		[16:41]
jonnybpolom luciash [16:41]
luciashabout your CSS fix I just wondered why it is limited to .col1 and not all the tables with .table-responsive class in all module zones too [16:42]
jonnybyes, was wondering that too - but the commit before by chibaguy was deliberately only for the col1, it just only has some of the grid widths set
also not really sure why the bootstrap definition isn't good enough ;) 		[16:44]
chibaguyah, when we had just the bootstrap definition, the tables would run under the right column because the @media breakpoint was wider (.container width) than the column containing the table.
It seems the Bootstrap rule assumes a table directly in the .container.
Or anyway in some div the same width. 		[16:50]
jonnybah, fair enough, thanks chibaguy [16:52]
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chibaguyOf course simpler is better, so if things still display nicely after your simplification, that's good. [16:54]
jonnybfabricius: are you about? just fixed the tracker country user pref field so https://tiki.org/tiki-register.php should now get a dropdown menu when it updates (to r55989+) [16:56]
fabriciuscool jonnyb [16:56]
jonnybseems tha Tiki-KGB isn't reportgin commits anymore? (or which ever one it was) [16:57]
fabriciusohh yes ... do you know who is in charge?
actually I have to go off ... need to do some work out of the house (shouldn't be here at all at all now) 		[16:58]
luciash:) [16:58]
jonnybIt's Oliver, i'll email
trouble is there are 3000+ items in there was mangled county values, so we'll need to fix them somehow...
was/with 		[16:58]
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I posted about this to the forums, but it was suggested I come here. Can't login to my new installation. And it won't send a password reset email 		[19:18]
gezzahi davidgs
the default password (admin) does not wok?
work 		[19:23]
davidgsNope. And I even went in to phpMyAdmin and ran UPDATE `users_users` SET `password`='admin', `hash`= md5('admin') WHERE `login`='admin'; with no luck
And if I ask it to send an email, no email ever comes. 		[19:27]
luciashdavidgs: anything in the logs? did you try if you fullfill all the requirements by going to tiki-check.php? [19:29]
gezzahm, strange, is it a local installation? [19:29]
davidgsNo, it's on my hosting providers' box. and tiki-check.php says I don't have permission to use that feature since I'm not logged in
Don't see anything in the server logs either. 		[19:31]
gezzaais it an autoinstaller like softacolous? [19:31]
davidgsyes, I used softaculous to install [19:31]
gezzahm, i often use it, did not have problems so far [19:32]
davidgsAnd I deleted and re-installed, and get the same behaviour [19:32]
gezzain softacolous tiki install there is a field to set admin password
did you set there something?
which Tiki version is it? 		[19:33]
davidgsright. I used that to set it to a known password (failed) and then tried again leaving the default (also failed)
version 12.4 		[19:34]
gezzalet me try a new install, brb [19:35]
luciashsounds like .htaccess (redirect) problem to me
do you use the provider original .htaccess or did you enable the _htaccess provided by tiki ? 		[19:35]
davidgsI hadn't touched anything in the install directory [19:36]
luciashcan you see a file .htaccess there? (with dot)
if not, then it must be something else 		[19:38]
gezzahm, i just did a fresh install on my softacoulus, Tiki12.4, set password to "admin"
it works fine, I can log in
Powered By Softaculous 4.6.4 		[19:40]
davidgsI just did a re-install ... same behaviour
and there is an _htaccess but no .htaccess
I DO have a .htaccess file in the sites main directory, but that only has a re-write rule to redirect http-->https
feel free to take a look at mine ... http://psikick.org/tiki10
Got it!! the redirect from http to https is the culprit. As soon as I turned that off, it started working again. But that's a huge problem for me ... 		[19:41]
jonnybdavidgs: you can set your tiki to use https and then it should be ok again (i think), once you've logged in [19:49]
davidgsseems as soon as I turn on the http-->https redirection in my top-level .htaccess the loginceases to function [19:51]
jonnybon admin/login called "Use HTTPS login"
either that or override it in your tiki .htaccess and let tiki do it for you 		[19:51]
davidgsBut that disables https for the rest of the site. [19:52]
jonnybcan't you do a similar redirect in your /tiki/.htaccess that disables it while leaving it on for the parent directory? [19:54]
davidgsSo I had to turn re-direction off, then in the admin settings, chose "require https login" and then turn redirection back on and that seems to work. Non-obvious, for sure. [19:56]
jonnybnice one, that's what i was trying to suggest, as you say, a bit obscure
wonder if we can add a note to the troubleshooting pages to help others? 		[19:57]
davidgsseems like if the installation is to a host using https then the login using https should be set on by default. [19:57]
jonnybare you a coder? ;) [19:58]
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fabriciuspolom
Hi davidgs 		[21:56]
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Hi fabricius. Yes, I solved the problem 		[22:05]
fabriciuscool
so a good hint to come here to the IRC? 		[22:05]
davidgsAn excellent hint! we tracked it all down.
very odd case. don't install on an https server. enable https AFTER you set "require https login" in the admin gui 		[22:06]
fabriciusor temporarily set https off, then activate in tiki and then reactivate on the server? [22:20]
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